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>>69195799 (checked)
I still don't entirely grasp why Starks choose to not armor themselves adequately. From what can be seen, there does not appear to be either plate nor even mail on their attire, it literally just comprises of cloth and leather.
And going from things like the Tower of Joy trailer, this is what they wear in combat too; against fully plated knights as well. Why? What tactical advantage would this have in open combat aside from movement and mobility?
No one gives a fuck. Game of Thrones is for AUTISTS.
>>69195953
No it's not, it's for normies. If we're being honest.
>>69195907
>full plated
We never see full plate in GoT or any other series or film. It's too much for the actors.
>>69195953
There must be a shit load of autists in the world then.
>>69195907
>movement and mobility
You just answered yourself. The best defense is to just not get hit in the first place.It costs more to make it is the real reason, look up how much a bog standard set of armour costs, not even somethng with details and furnishings, imagine kitting everyone out in that shit and how much it would cost
>>69195953
Its fantasy for people who dont like fantasy. Ie normies.
>>69195953
>>69195953
GOT was patrician-tier during season 1, when it was still a low key fantasy series. Now it has international fanbase and the showrunners need to cater to normies.
>>69195907
The show takes pride on how fucking stupid their characters are when it comes to armor choices.
>>69195799
Is that Steven Seagal?
>>69195984
I take this back we see it in some films such as Excalibur, but it is rare.
i HATE that GoT never uses full plated armor
>>69195907
pretty fucking sure starks wear chainmail under their clothes
>>69195799
>My name is Jon Stark, heir of Winterfell, former Lord Commander of the Night's watch, loyal servant to the true king, Stannis Baratheon. Son to a murdered father, brother to murdered siblings. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.
>>69195799
>>69196453
You forgot
>At last, I have become The Winds of Winter
>>69196052
This sort of. It was going to get shitty no matter what, given it's source content, but it was pretty okay.
When I first saw it, knowing nothing of the books, I was actually kind of interested. Thought it would be a cool low-fantasy series. Then boromir died and everything went stupid.
>>69195907
dex > str
>>69197384
This is false
>>69197107
>While I was dead I had a Dream of Spring. I talked to Ned. Do you want to know what heaven looks like?
>>69195907
The only defense this 7 people actually need is all seven of them armed with a crossbow. 3 of the best swordman in the realm, let fight them with sword. Fuck that shit
>>69195907
you can literally see them wearing chainmail in that picture you dumb fuck
>>69197486
Has anyone ever killed someone like this? I know that some fight training does use the eye as an attack point. But to actually say shove your fingers in their eyes and crack their eye orbitals from their skull what be a sight to watch!
>note: not a pop of course
>>69197486
>Trying to tank a boss solo...
>>69197486
Except he won before he went full retard
NO...
now ...
it ends....
FOR YOU!
>>69197486
>>69197677
But he won the fight, in a way. If the mountain was just some guy to him he would've never let his guard down trying to get him to confess
>>69197768
>won the fight, in a way
Mountain still is alive, in a way
>>69197738
Was winning, you mean.
>>69197486
dex won, retard
>>69197768
He didn't win in the way where he won, though, so there's that.
>>69195799
Wow ricky gervais is that tall??? Or is faggy mcbeardo kit a manlet.
>>69195984
>>69196177
Just make it out of styrofoam or aluminium or w/e. These special FX guys can make severed limbs, holes in heads, giant robots, spaceships etc but can't make a believable armor? Please
>>69197384
casul
>>69195907
Movement and mobility... You just fucking said it
>>69195984
>its too much for the actors
no it really isn't. It's too much for the fight choreographer and too much for the audience when you watch two men in full plate fight because it's not what we're used to.
We're used to people dying by being slashed, a swift motion that quickly kills a man.We're not used to two men beating the shit out of eachother and one barely staying alive by sheer luck more than skill
>>69195984
Aren't Hugh and Clegane wearing armor in the jousting tournament in season one?
>>69197504
Should change ned to my mother, then it fits perfect
>>69195907
Heavy armour slows you down, makes you vulnerable.
>>69197738
So why couldnt he dex his way out of the last part?because dex is literally worthless
>>69195984
Nobody is asking for actors to walk around in actual platemail, son. We're asking them to walk around in well-painted plastic pieces or some shit.
Or do you think all the extras are walking around in authentically heavy padding, maille, helmets and weapons?
>>69200522
>We're used to people dying by being slashed, a swift motion that quickly kills a man.We're not used to two men beating the shit out of eachother and one barely staying alive by sheer luck more than skill
The Bronn fight in the Eyrie was GOAT, though. Everyone thought so. And it wasn't because Bronn wasn't wearing full armour, but because you actually got that slow fight choreography, instead of a spear to the back of the head or a whip being presented as a dangerous weapon.
>>69196052
>>69195973
>>69196040
>patrician
>normies
>fat friendless virgin bed-wetters detected
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plate_armour
A complete suit of plate armour made from well-tempered steel would weigh around 15–25 kg(33-55 pounds).[2] The wearer remained highly agile and could jump, run and otherwise move freely as the weight of the armour was spread evenly throughout the body. The armour was articulated and covered a man's entire body completely from neck to toe. In the 15th and 16th centuries, large bodies of men-at-arms numbering thousands or even more than ten thousand men (as many as 60% of an army) were fighting on foot wearing full plate next to archers and crossbowmen.
Sounds like adult actors should be able to "fight" for a few minutes in one of those
>>69201231
Believe it or not, I know someone working on the set in the Titanic quarter and got to go around the studios one night, the props are mostly actual metal, but its not heavy hardened steel, its aluminium or something that is very light at least, the ones that are given the background characters are made of latex, oddly, theyre kindof floppy and it baffles me how they can make that look solid on screen. Didnt see any weapons for the extras though so cant speak for them, but the front of camera props were definitely metal.
>>69201302
This is easily the most normie centric show on TV at the moment, how does pointing this out equate to anything but a basic observation anyone can make. If anything youd think that something like this would only appeal to fat neckbeards who live in their basement playing DnD, but its socially normie tier.
>>69197768
No. He used poison to weaken him. Besides, the Mountain disarmed him at one point, before his squire or whatever tossed him another spear, if it was a battlefield the Viper would have been dead at that point.
>>69201529
using the term normie (or patrician or kino) automatically makes you someone who regularly pisses their bed
>>69201553
What word should I use anon.
>this is easily the most normal centric show on tv at the moment
Makes no sense, when I say "normie" you know exatly what Im refering to, youre looking way to deep into that, its just an abbreviation.
>>69200969
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLWzH_1eZsc
>>69201615
abbreviation for what? normal? so normal/"normie" (cringe) people watch Game of Thrones. does this mean anyone that doesn't watch is some kind of mutant with six eyes and no legs?
>>69201392
But they have to do multiple takes, which means they're there for a good few hours.
>>69201392
Except it wouldn't be a "few minutes". If you think those kinds of scenes are done in one take then you're a fool. Even the sand-snake scene on the boat took them more than a "few minutes". If someone's wearing a helmet with a visor there's way more time spent getting the choreography right because of it restricting sight etc.
Which is why they wouldn't be wearing something made out of tempered steel if they decided on letting actors wear "plate-armour", but some aluminium alloy stuff that's way lighter, with cooling-systems built in for the shit filmed in spain. But that'd cost more, and they'd actually have to bring in a choreographer who doesn't just go "and then he gets stabbed through the back of the neck/head." or "then he gets his throat slit.", which would also cost more because it takes longer to figure out a good fight and teach all the actors what they're supposed to do.
>>69195799
Yay, i can't wait for them to ruin past characters other than present ones!
>>69202068
fuck off to /lit/ with your book whining you tragic bed-wetter
>>69201548
>implying he wouldn't have brought a squire on the battlefield and had him toss new spears
That kind of shit is what squires are for at the battlefield.
>>69197486
That's more like a case of low int caused by rage.
>>69202096
>bed-wetter
So, is your new dank meme taking off or is it just the same 2-3 idiots?
>>69195907
>>69196040
>>69200434
>>69200969
>heavy armor slows you down
This meme needs to end
http://knowledgenuts.com/2014/05/17/knights-armor-was-much-much-lighter-than-you-think/
Literally no excuse for wearing some faggy leather shit instead of proper armor.
Besides price I guess.
>>69202096
I didn't even read the books but if you don't think the show has gone to shit Season 5 and so far in season 6 you're just a moron. The show went from great to below average mediocre show.
>>69195799
>Ned beheaded
>Ned's soul warged into a crow.
>Crow flies to wall
>Jon Snow is retarded, practically soulless
>Jon dies
>bastard soul so shit
>Crow Ned wargs into Jons body
>Jon is now Ned
>Start and end series with Ned
>Ned gets to slam Dany and ride dragons
Hire me D&D
>>69202176
Not about being heavy, its that it restricts movement, not by much but its definately not as flexible as without.
>>69195984
Do you mean real plate armor?
> I don't know why this came to mind first
>>69202282
>In a number of modern tests, a wearer, obviously not trained as a knight, was able to perform somersaults and cartwheels.
>Medieval chroniclers wrote about fully armored men-at-arms scaling siege ladders like sets of monkey bars.
I think the extra protection would be worth it.
>A simple suit of chain-mail could blunt most sword slashes.
>Medieval writers noted knights coming out of battle so absurdly covered with arrows that they looked like porcupines, but were unwounded.
>During the Middle Ages, it was often easier (and more profitable) to capture an enemy knight rather than find a can opener and kill him.
>>69202452
>>Medieval writers noted knights coming out of battle so absurdly covered with arrows that they looked like porcupines, but were unwounded.
Turns out Mount & Blade was realistic
>>69200969
ha season one jorah vs dothraki
>>69202436
Is this some kind of modern day Eowyn fighting the Witch King?
>>69202452
Oh itd be worth it, no doubt, but factor in the costs of mass producing it for a TV show. Even today a mundane suit of armour will set you back a fair amount of money, bring in movie shit like furnishings and engravings and thats a massive chunk of the budget gone on just one prop.
Theres also the movie thing of "I hit you with my sword so you immediately die". Combat with characters in full plate looks goofy as fuck, its 2 guys tripping and knocking eachother over then getting tired, its not terribly exciting to watch.
TLDR; armour has almost no drawbacks. But its boring and expensive.
>>69197768
Yeah, his goal was a confession and he obtained it, so he won his own battle. But I highly doubt, given his personality demonstrated in the book, that he thought that confession worth his life.
>>69202212
that's right, get back to the topic of the show. this is a TV board after all. book readers need to piss off with their bed wetting
as for my own opinion on the show, Dorne is trash but everything else ranges from good to phenomenal
>>69202253
Sounds rad as fuck.
>>69202611
>"I hit you with my sword so you immediately die"
>lord of the rings
>guy hits giant orc monster wearing heavy steel armour with a single slash
>reels and spins over, dead
I want to see something that has armour working as it should, I imagine it really wouldnt be terribly exciting but I just want to see it.
>>69202611
Yeah true
I mean there's dual wielding do they definitely went for flashiness over function
>>69200969
battousai, pls. the edge on your sword isn't even on the correct side
>>69202452
Source on that pic please?
>>69202785
Empire of Sand on youtube
>>69202785
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=A0C4_88ub_M
>>69202785
Empire of Dust. Interesting documentary.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0C4_88ub_M
>>69202282
>It restricts movement
Only if your wearing someone else's armor. Plate armor was personalized and fitted to avoid exactly this problem.
>>69195907
Dayne?
>>69202870
Its not like wearing a track suit just because it fits, it still feels as clingy as you expect, not to mention that it gets hot as fuck after a while and you start to sweat buckets doing anything strenuous.
Again, factor this issue into the movie realm, noone is going to make custom armour for all those extras, thats just not happening, and main actors are going to be rinsing sweat wearing a full suit so its not terribly good if you plan to do multiple takes in a day or anything.
>>69202573
It's from a "zombie" movie.
>>69203016
>Its not like wearing a track suit just because it fits, it still feels as clingy as you expect, not to mention that it gets hot as fuck after a while and you start to sweat buckets doing anything strenuous.
But that's also true for the shit they ARE wearing, except for the sand sneks. With all the leather some characters wear they're not far behind, really.
>>69203144
You have a point. Im going to say that its not as hot or nearly as expensive to get and replace should the need the though. One dent or scratch in a piece of prop armour and you have to wait till its fixed or a new set is made, with a leather piece you just grab a replacement, movies and shit usually house like 3 full outfits per character incase one gets damaged and needs replaced.
My only real gripe is that alot of the time they arent actually wearing armour at all. Its just cloth, not padding or leather, but cloth, no chainmail or anything. I can fucking make chainmail, its not even expensive or particularly time consuming, theres no reason for that.
I can't wait for the big reveal when probably a dragon blows fire on Jon and he is left standing because he is a targ.
>>69203283
What bothers me is that the few armour-pieces they do have is so fucking shit.
The Kingsguard armour is fucking horrendous, both looks-wise and protection-wise. Jorah wore better protection in S1 than the Kingsguard. It's not even properly fucking white, but looks more like some shit you'd see Tywin dress up his guards in.
>>69195907
Remember when Cat realized that Roose was wearing chainmail at the twins? Yeah. They aren't really always wearing chainmail underneath, because you can't see it and its unnecessary. Just pretend its there.
>>69203398
The tv series is bereft of color compared to the vivid colors in the novels. It's not just the kingsguard armor.
Everything is brown.
>>69201548
If you look at the fight, you can see his fighting skill is superior. The Mountain has a hard time even hitting him. I feel like, if he wasn't so emotional about avenging Ellia's murderer and rapist, he'd have taken him down without an issue.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QS2IYyywZMs
>best helmet in the show was a background prop
>>69197486
You do realise he was only lost due to his hubris?
>>69203567
Robert seems like more of a greathelm type guy to me.
>>69203529
Yeah, if Oberyn only wanted him dead he'd have poisoned him and not even bothered with a duel.
>>69203398
As the timeline progressed they invented kevlar to replace plate.
>>69203676
>that pattern
Wat
>>69202176
And to think, people still could've been wearing plate armour and wielding rifles.
>>69203567
>lancel the fucking squire is wearing better armour than the northerners, at a tourney hes not even taking part in
>>69202452
>that pic
No pun intended, but basically the dark ages in a nutshell.
>>69195799
did jon have a manbun in the books?
>>69202282
Which is a pretty low price to pay for being practically invulnerable.
>>69203676
Is this guy the worst cast character? I get he's supposed to be a rich sheltered prince and also a fag, but he should at least look like he has trained in combat. He looks like a soft twink vegan without an ounce of muscle.
>>69202708
That's what I loved about GoT season 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKc7bj7TREU
Then you have the bullshit in recent season with naked people spinning fighting a dozen armored warriors.
>>69202648
>>69203948
Did they change fight choreographers?
>>69204031
probably, this is also a problem with writing or vision, they've gone from being a very grounded show when it comes to the fighting to very "flashy" soap opera style.
>>69203815
>mfw a future with laser-rifles and highly-polished plate armour to bounce the lasers off
>>69203931
He wasn't cast to play Loras Tyrell from the books, who's young-Jaime-tier. He was cast to play Loras Tyrell the faggot-machine so that GoT could wheel him out from time to time to get cred as gay-friendly.
>>69203398
>kingsguard not white
BUT THEY ARE EVIL, SO THEY CAN ONLY WEAR RED OR BLACK
DABID
THEY ARE EBIL, THE MAD KING IS EBIL DABID
>>69202436
let me guess womyn won
>>69197384
Why not both?
>>69195799
I don't understand this, is Jon going to legitimize himself? A king has to do that. How can a bastard proclaim himself King in the North and self-legitimize himself?
>>69205403
If he wins the war he can make the rules mate
>>69205403
I don't know. By right of conquest?
>>69199535
FX cost money, but surely they can make light but believable armor
>>69205458
Final battle is in the last episode. This is some heavy bullshit. Jon's gotten cocky.
If no letter from Robb arrives, this is beyond stupid. Rickon is alive, what would he tell Jon? What would Sansa or Bran?
Hell, Id LOVE there to be another Stark in Winterfell, but come on.
>>69205403
GoT Kings literally go by right of conquest before dynasty. Targs killed everyone, became kings, Baratheons killed everything, Became Kings. Snow kills everyone ?????? what do you think?
>>69205529
You mean Stark? Not Snow. That still doesn't give him legal right to be Stark.
>>69195907
They had low endurance and knew they wouldn't be able to win if they were fat rolling plus suck at parrying.
>>69205560
No you dumb fuck, how fucking dense are you seriously? He deosn't need to be a fucking Stark. Just a dude who kills everyone with his army. Fucking right by conquest.
>jon and his army
you mean night watch? which was severely underhanded vs wildlings with shitty weapons. or whatever stannis left behind?
>>69201624
weabs BTFO
I've forgotten who the man in the golden armour is that guards Cersei ?
Is it the mountain ? What happened with him not talking again ?
would you fight for jon snow in the name of eddard stark, /tv/?
>>69205863
it is mountain. he was poisoned by the spear of the faggot lord while defending tyrion in his trial. that poisoner guy Cersei trusts made him that way.
>>69204983
She used agility to dodge blows until she got her hands on a warhammer to penetrate the armour with.
There was way more unbelievable shit in that movie.
>>69195799
WOAH HOLY FUCK
JON IS DRESSED THE SAME AS NED???????
SO EPIC?!?!
HYPE AS FUCK
LITERALLY POETRYYYYYYYYYYYY
GOAT SHOW CONFIRMED
>>69196052
this so fucking much.
> If i ever get an idea like that again punch me in the face lel
seems like they're going full retard
>>69203567
Wouldn't those horns be dangerous as fuck though? What if someone grabbed them from behind and pulled him down?
>>69203676
That looks like it could maybe go under his plate
>>69205403
Wasn't there a plotline where Robb wanted to legitimize him if something happened to Robb and the letter is out there in the world somewhere? It probably wouldn't even matter that much considering the North spends most of its time recently either openly or plotting rebellion and they'd just accept him as a Stark. He'd also have more honor because of muh Watch and the whole coming back from the dead really lends him credibility as the leader the Northeners want.
>>69195907
armor is purely cosmetic in this show. you do remember the scene where a shirtless guy ran around swordfighting a bunch of armored ironborn, right?
>>69206009
that helmet was probably just for show off. even if it was used on that knight fights, knights wouldn't do such tricks
>>69206009
>>69206077
They'd also have to get his giant fucking hammer away from him and if that happened he was probably fucked anyway
>>69205897
didn't he resurrect or die or something ? or at least it was implied ?
>>69206143
Yeah, he died, but Qyburn is a necromancer and brought him back as some kind of zombie knight.
>>69206143
Qyburn brought him back but it isn't the Mountain it's just a zombie who follows Cersei's orders.It might also have Robert Baratheons head on its shoulders hence the name Robert Strongbut that's unconfirmed.
>>69206077
>even if it was used on that knight fights, knights wouldn't do such tricks
To their KING. They might fuck with each-other to win the prize-pool, but nobody's going to pull a dirty move on their own king in front of all those witnesses. And so the king get's to wear whatever the fuck he likes to the tourney.
>>69205948
>woman
>warhammer
>penetrate the armour
>>69202168
Bed wetter
>>69203948
Holy shit I didn't remember what a shitty fighter Jorah was. How did he ever win the tourney at Lannisport?
>>69204063
Tormund vs Thorne was the most realistic fight in terms of movement and tempo.
You have a general for a reason /got/ autists.
>>69206379
You have a problem with a warhammer penetrating armour, the one thing they were designed to do?
That scene, from a shitty zombie movie, actually has more reasonable fight choreography than Game of Thrones.
>>69206621
This clearly isn't /got/-posters who are enlightened by Preston Jacobs and their own intelligence. We would never go all "wouldn't it be epic if Jon Snu became the king and azor ahai and would win everything and shit"
>>69203567
holy shit I forgot Lancel looked like this
>>69206379
you should google "warhammer" I don't think plate armour is going to protect you from one of those
>>69206797
women being too weak to wield one effectively might protect you though, as will the fact that women aren't as quick or agile as men in fighting situations. a well trained dude in heavy armor will easily outmaneuver an unarmored girl
>>69203815
Not an historian but I'm pretty the rifles are the reason that plate armor stopped being useful.
>>69195907
The op pic appears to depict some kind of brigandine, i.e plates of steel sandwiched between leather. They provide excellent protection, they just lack the slipperiness of plate armor that makes stabbing attacks more likely to glance off.
>>69195984
>full plate is ridiculously heavy meme
A modern soldier carries more weight than a knight in full plate nigger. And the mail is distributed more evenly than when you have everything on your shoulders and waist.
>>69206162
How can the Zombie mountain be killed then??? Cut off his head or stab his head??
>>69202452
>that pic
it hurts how much he's right
any other literate Nigerian would rather have an European country rule us again. like how the fuck do you go backwards cos some bastards are too stupidly greedy.. it hurts just thinking about it.
>>69208396
Kill Qyburn, his fancy-schmancy necromagicks die with him. It is the only way.
Wow, you guys are autistic as fuck. You are aware that this is just a show right?
>>69208466
Where do you think you are, my autist fellow?
>>69205968
>DCucks cant stop the marvel train
>Come to GoT General to talk shit
>>69208523
On the shittiest board on 4chan.
>>69202212
Thanks oh wise TV critic. Fucking die already
>>69208634
Look at you being the little shit floating in a tub of shit
>>69202282
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzTwBQniLSc
>>69208461
Wait really? Who will kill Qyburn....
>>69208949
If it's the books, could be anybody, prob Sam or one of his Oldtown friends
If show, Brienne, not even up for discussion
>>69207789
It's true that a knights armor wasn't that heavy. However, having the weight concentrated arount your torso rather than distributed around your whole body is way better for mobility as it only increases your weight as a whole but not the weight of your limbs.
why does nobody realize starks wear chainmail under their boiled leather?
are y'all niggas blind?
>>69206009
horns and other decorations on helmets easily snap off to prevent people from grabbing it.
>>69202282
>being invincible isn't worth it !
>>69202708
This should tickle your fancy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tr6VrmOQY1M
>>69196463
Davos did not know Stannis before saving him and his man.
