Can we talk about this movie please? It is easily the best cbm since Dark Knight
>>69076305
Was good except for drone scene
Should've gotten a sequel with faora instead of BvS cuz "dude batman lmao"
>>69076305
WE WUZ GODS N SHIET
>>69076305
Why is 4chan always pretending to be retarded?
>>69076426
He's just a regular guy in these movies. Why doesn't anyone get this?
>>69076500
They are literally stupid
>>69076305
Just thinking about it kinda makes me tear up. Powerful movie.
>>69076305
can't believe the marvel army memed this into being a bad movie, it has had lasting effects on Zack's reputation
the movie is so fucking emotional
Loved it. Same with BvS. Both movies got shit on for no reason. Glad Zack Snyder is still directing The Justice League and no casting has changed. So excited for the future of the DCCU.
>>69076305
God that movie was shit
>>69076426
BAKA
>>69076753
Zack said it would be seven samurai inspired
How would that work for justice league? Legitimate question
>>69076883
Bruce and Diana get together the JL to protect Earth from Darkseid's invasion?
It was all right. I'm not sure that what they did with the character actually worked, since he didn't really seem like Superman at any point in the film. There was some hilarious dialogue, as well.
YOU THINK *punch* YOU CAN FRIGHTEN *punch* MY MOTHER?
>>69076883
I'm sure "inspired" is meant loosely
what the hell was her problem?
>>69076305
I loved this movie, and loved it even more after watching BvS. It made some things fall into place for me, and I'm reasonably sure there are clues within it for what the DCEU has planned.
Pic related if you'd like to know how I'll be carrying myself in this discussion.
I'm starting to believe that what Jor and Zod told Clark about Krypton's old colonies was just the "official history,"
best scene desu
https://youtu.be/jSjI7gwuKtg
>>69076622
>>69077236
What would you say to people who think Supes' character is one dimensional (considering both MoS and BvS)?
>>69076305
You seen this, OP?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p5-14rjWUM
I don't agree with him on what he seems to think the religious imagery is there to convey, but he makes some great points. At first, I thought he was trolling, but he pulls it all together nicely by the end.
i feel so sorry for Henry Cavill
He's soo good as Superman but he gets fucked over by lowtier movies
>>69076500
>>69076500
>He's just a regular guy in these movies. Why doesn't anyone get this?
Gee I don't know bro....
>>69077117
Because he's not superman at that point you idiot. That's the whole fucking point of the movie. It is literally superman's first EVER battle to the death with a powerful opponent. Notice how he gets the shit beaten put of him the whole movie up until the bitter end?
>>69077483
I'd say they're not looking at him from the right angle.
How easy would it be for you to walk up and just talk to a stranger if you knew there was a 50/50 chance they were going to spit in your face because they held you responsible for the death of one of their loved ones or they were going to reach out and creepily try to touch you like you're some kind of religious icon?
That's what the character's struggling against at present, and it's going to come to a head in his next appearance. It will be the final step into the character we know, and it will come full circle to that conversation he had with the priest back in MoS.
>>69076491
I'm sorry Marvel Cuck, your winter war soldier shit thread's all the way that-a-way the fuck outta this thread you bastard. When there's a copy, a good copy of your shit movie online, I'm gonna watch the shit outta that sucker and seed the whole fucking world. BVS was miles above anything done by your shit company.
>>69076305
This picture was taken in my hometown. Along with the whole battle on the street
Plano Illinois
>>69077419
There might have been a cover-up, true. I'm hoping we'll find out why all the outposts were really abandoned. When it shows Zod exploring them for parts, it didn't look like simple neglect.
>>69077643
damn
>>69077680
Every Kryptonian corpse we see is either dead in a crashed ship or clutching a weapon.
To me, that says war.
>>69077668
Nice! You score any pics of your own?
>>69076491
>>69077654
Let's respect each other's opinion, guys. If you like Marvel movies more, there are dozens of threads on 4chan for that. If you like DC (Superman, in particular), this thread is for that.
>>69077912
I second this.
>>69077739 again.
I'm also pretty sure that the empty hibernation pod Clark looks at on the scout shipis there to hint at metahumans being some sort of Kryptonian genetic strain in the human population.
>>69076405
I'm hoping that all the Kryptonians survived and Professor Hamilton and based Colonel Hardy did too.
>>69078015
If that was the case, most (if not, all) humans would be metahumans. Remember how old the Kryptonian ship was dated back to? It's before humans existed.
>>69076753
>for no reason
I'm so sick of how fucking contrarian /tv/ has become in the last three years. Baneposting ruined this place. I miss the dubs epidemic of 2011 at this point.
>>69078300
Nah, it's not *that* old, only like 18,000 years ago. We been around a lot longer than that.
>>69078386
It's not a meme. That's blatant to wake you up to the more subtle birth imagery through the rest of the movie.
Check out >>69077523
Skip to the end if you want and see Kal's birth and Zod's death side-by-side. The world engine's pretty interesting too.
>>69076305
We all now agree Man of Steel and Batman vs Superman are pure unadulterated shit that relied solely on brand name and past success to sell tickets.
But in your opinion what are you most hated moments from these absolute turds?
>>69078394
Well yeah, i mean that there would be an insane amount of metahumans in the world if that were true, and each JLA member/ metahuman has a completely different origin story, they all didn't just happen to have powers at birth.
>>69078448
>recreating bible paintings is subtle
>hailing Snyder as a genius for doing things like this but saying Superman Returns was bad when Singer did the same fucking thing
Snyderfags are the worst, holy shit
>>69078484
No one respond to him. It's a troll.
>>69078510
For entirely different reasons.
The imagery isn't there to tell the audience "Superman = Space Jesus."
>>69078510
Oh, and I don't think Returns was bad. I thought it was a nice homage to the Donner films, but didn't have much of its own to say.
>>69077236
because BvS is fucking garbage. This one is decent
>>69076405
>faora
Wan't she killed?
>>69078529
>>69078647
We don't really know. The Kryptonian ship(the Black Zero) and the Air Force jet both sort of got sucked back into the Phantom Zone.
>>69078647
She lives on in my heart
>>69077117
I thought he said "threaten" instead of "frighten". Awesome scene btw
>>69078488
Well, you know how the concept of "mutants" wasn't even a thing in the DC universe for a long, long time? I'm thinking it might be some sort of "metagene" thing, like lots of people carry the gene but don't necessarily experience circumstances that activate it.
>>69078727
What was that almighty large gentleman's name that was fighting alongside Faora?
I don't like how they handled pa kent's death and that they killed off Faora
>>69078804
The big guy?
>>69078818
I'ma drop some pasta of my own creation about Pa Kent. It's how I've come to view his scenes after repeated viewings,
Andour Queen can not be dead.
I don't get why people hate this movie.
Best capeshit
>>69078839
Yeah, who was that guy? I thought maybe it was the same dude that plays Gregor Clegane on Game of Thrones, Halfthor Magnusson or something like that.
>>69077643
>>69078902
Isn't that non?
>>69077534
more like he gets fucked by lowtier audiences
see this guy, who can't interpret the most basic imagery
>>69077554
>>69078902
He looked CGI as fuck. I think it was the black dude present in that scene where general Zod and co get dickcicled
>>69078860
Over the course of the film, we are treated to multiple flashbacks of Clark's childhood, mostly scenes focusing on interactions with his deceased father Jonathan. It is my belief that these scenes are designed to not only inform Clark's current thoughts, but also to elicit an emotional response from the audience that echoes a child's changing perceptions of their parents as they grow into adulthood. What follows is the series of scenes in the order in which they appear in the film.
Maybe
This flashback sets the tone for the scenes as a whole and the message it carries for the audience applies to all the scenes that follow. Jonathan listens to Pete Ross's mother talking to Martha about what Clark did being an "act of God." Jonathan leaves the house to find and talk to Clark. Clark asks him if he shouldn't have saved those kids, to which Jonathan replies, "Maybe?" This strikes any viewer familiar with Jonathan's character as a jarring departure, but we see immediately afterward that Clark himself didn't at that point know his own origins. Jonathan then proceeds to talk to him about the impact he'll have on the world and his words inform the wisdom of his previous statement. It's important to note that the same chamber that contains Clark's ship also contains a vast array of books and corkboards covered with various articles and maps, indicating that Jonathan's been doing a lot of "homework" in regards to Clark and serves as an early visual clue to a hidden wisdom.
>>69078935
I assumed it was, but I didn't see him listed in the credits.
>>69078987
Who /thesis/ here
>>69078987
The emotional response it elicits from a viewer is similar to the moment a child first realizes that their parents are not the idealized beings of their childhood and bespeaks a growing maturity within the child.
This scene serves as the primer for examining the flashbacks as a continuum. This pattern applies to all subsequent scenes insofar as they present the audience with the same growing understanding that Clark himself experiences with each proceeding scene informing the previous scenes, speaking to Clark's current thoughts and actions, and revealing his changing perspectives on the wisdom and lessons of his father.
>>69079015
You talking about that youtube vid linked up in >>69077523?
>>69078921
>she will never beat you to a pulp
jdimsa in my sleep already
>>69079033
Tornado
Here we see Clark as a teenager having an argument with his parents, and with typical teenage thoughtlessness, Clark says, "You're not even my dad. You're just some guy that found me in a field." You can see from his change in demeanor that he immediately regrets saying it, but Jonathan forges ahead, apparently wanting to discuss what Clark thinks would be "something useful" to do with his life, but it is at this point that the tornado interrupts them.
As they head for the "safety" of the underpass, we see Jonathan encouraging people to abandon their cars and head for safety, stopping to help a mother with a young child. When they realize they've left behind their family pet, Clark volunteers to go back, but Jonathan instead hands him the child and tells him to go with the others.
Jonathan's decisions in this scene leave a tremendous negative impression on the first viewing for most people, and I am most certainly among them, but it also leaves the viewer with some lingering tension with his character and leads one to question the wisdom of the character, but it's important to remember that all Jonathan could do was *tell* Clark not to risk exposing himself. The only person who can stop Clark is Clark himself, and he does. Those are the actions of a good child obeying their parent, a good son respecting the wishes of his father. They're not, however, the actions of a good *man* making his own decisions, and certainly not the actions of a man ready to face the world as Superman.
The typical incredulous reaction and accompanying emotional response one experiences on first viewing this scene is similar to the attitudes of an adolescent toward their parents - rebellious and questioning the wisdom of their elders.
>>69079094
Bully Scene
Jonathan's lines here are pure Pa Kent in all its glory, counseling Clark against letting violence be his go-to solution to a problem and telling Clark that he needs to decide what kind of man he wants to be, because, in his words, "good man or bad man, that man's going to change the world."
As stated earlier, when viewed in the order they're presented, this scene informs Jonathan's earlier actions. He wants Clark to be a good man, and he wants to give him time to become that man, but most importantly, he wants it to be Clark's own decision, not choices he makes simply because they're the choices he believes others want him to make.
This scene invites the viewer to reevaluate Jonathan's earlier decisions and statements. The wisdom of his words inform the viewer that Jonathan might have deeper insight than appears at first glance and might be thinking of a far bigger picture as was suggested in the initial flashback. This scene serves as something of a reconciliation with Jonathan's character, much like a young adult coming into a greater appreciation of the wisdom of a parent and beginning to view them through different eyes.
>>69076305
I liked the drama part of it, I hated the DBZ part of it.
>>69078699
actually the jet collided with the kryptonian ship. There was an explosion. Hamilton and the Lieutenant probably died. But Faora would've lived and she got sucky sucky
>>69079120
Truck Scene
MoS's final Jonathan scene has him working on the engine of their truck while Clark plays "hero" in the yard with the family dog. We're lead into this by way of Martha telling present-day Clark that Jonathan always "believed you were meant for greater things and that when the day came, your shoulders would be able to bear the weight." In the flashback, Jonathan looks on in silence at Clark striking a hero pose while Martha watches her husband, smiles to herself, and pats him on the shoulder.
Having come into his own, Clark can now see the hidden wisdom of his father. This closing scene brings full reconciliation with the character of Jonathan Kent, the man that raised a Superman.
>>69079136
That's true. I just badly want a way for the humans to have survived, too. Hamilton and Hardy were great characters.
>>69079033
>>69079094
>>69079120
You should repost that and this time direct it towardsZod's snapped neck
>>69079156
The Mountaintop
Time will tell whether I'm right in this regard or not, but I believe Jonathan's scene in BvS will be his last, it being a mountaintop reflection with all that implies. Here, Clark reaches the summit, the final change in his shifting perceptions of his father.
Jonathan's horse parable is all about actions and their consequences. He regretted that his actions to save their farm cost the Langs their horses, but it's important to note that at no time does he say he believes he was wrong for doing so. Ultimately, his story is about making decisions based on your own moral compass, taking action, and accepting the consequences of those actions, both good and bad. It's about choosing your world and who you want to be in it. Tellingly, Jonathan is shown building a cairn atop the mountain. Cairns are frequently used as trail markers and a form has also traditionally been used by Buddhist monks to conceal scrolls of knowledge for others to later find.
Taken in sequence, these scenes represent Clark's emotional growth over the course of his life as Superman, and each scene is designed to not only inform the plot's current action, but to give us a view of his own internal landscape. They also evoke an emotional response from the audience that echoes the stages of development that a child experiences in growing to maturity.
From the mountaintop, Clark looks back and views his father, his choices, and his wisdom through the lens of time.
>>69078954
>>69078954
>see this guy, who can't interpret the most basic imagery
Yeah man you're so smart please explain it to us master
>>69079142
mods seem highly intolerant of Antje posting
>>69076500
>He's just a regular guy in these movies
It explains his lack of charisma
>>69078562
>The imagery isn't there to tell the audience "Superman = Space Jesus."
It is there. It's a bit more cleanly integrated, but not much.
>>69079286
>cleanly integrated
Brandon Routh was in the crucifixion pose as he fell to Earth. He even rose from the dead.
>>69079286
I'm not saying it isn't there. I'm telling it's not there to convey that he's a god.
This is a superhero movie that is also a "First Contact" scenario. The imagery's present not to tell that the viewer should equate Clark with "God," but to inform us when people in his world are seeing him as one, up to and including the AI "ghost" of his own father.
>>69079286
>>69079348
>>69079350
And that's the difference in what they're there to convey between the two films. While I'd have to go back and re-watch "Returns" to state with complete certainty, it's way more out of place there and isn't really speaking to the same things it's speaking to in the latest films.
>>69079094
Goddammit... Oh well, I guess I only hate one the fact that killed Faora now
>>69079451
Hope springs eternal, anon. Some day our queen shall return.Shipped with Colonel Hardy, I hope.
>>69079094
Simpler way of explanation is a god needs to look out for himself rather than exposing himself to rabble. Snyder is an objectivist and understands that altruism is Superman's true kryptonite.
>hey guys, l-let's talk about MoS
>copypastas spammed over and over
>waifufags of that disgusting tranny delusionally thinking anyone but them cares enough about henchwoman #14897239081290 to bring it back
Why?
>>69077236
Saved.
>>69079094
>>69079120
>>69078987
Why so many posts to explain crystal clear and Hideo Kojima-tier symbolism?
Superman = Jesus, Snyder has already wasted 2 movies with this alegory.
>>69079546
I'd need to read up on Rand's "philosophy" to really speak to that. Inescapably, I'm looking at all this with my own preconceptions fully in place, wherein the ultimate lesson is that we're all each of us supposed to be heroes in our daily lives. Clark's no different in that regard.
>>69079597
Decidedly not. Watch Zod's "introduction" to the people of earth.
https://youtu.be/mTpzhfH8vC8?list=PL42rZ9F2TCklQr2PKp7qhdPro-foWyuZD&t=119 [Embed]
Now compare the tone of it and the delivery method to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCcdr4O-3gE [Embed]
Even the words that appear on-screen in Zod's broadcast are interesting, as they're evocative of another movie from long ago. I think maybe this is Snyder telling his audience to expect something a bit different than your typical cape movie.
He's telling us to expect science fiction.
>>69079599
L-lewd
>>69079995
I love that scene where she takes out like half a dozen soldiers in a second, showing what superspeed would look like from a human perspective. Gets me every time.
>>69076883
Instead of making a coherent movie Snyder is going to spend 180 minutes making visual references to Kurosawa films which we will have to piece together to understand an unannounced Lobo movie.
>>69079239
You're supposed to interpret it as how the priest sees Clark. An otherworldy all-powerful being that reveals to him. Imagine how experiencing that would shake the faith of a priest. In spite of all this (he even lets out a gasp), he makes an effort to speak to Clark as he would to any common man looking to confess.
Now see it from Clark's perspective. All his life he has been looking for his place on Earth. He didn't ask for his powers. In fact, as a kid he wanted to be normal. All this is a huge burden on him, and is explored further in BvS.
>>69079816
Snyder knows only about visuals, and even then it's all film school-tier transparent symbolism.
>>69080184
>explored further in BvS
What the fuck, he gets not a single trace of character development throughout the entire movie.
He cries some to his mother in one scene and that's it.
>>69079995
>>69080194
Johnathan's first scene in the movie - hears the Ross kid's mom say "It was a miracle of God, Johnathan!" and he immediately jumps up to go find Clark, because he already knows how his senses work.
Clark says, "Did God do this to me?" Johnathan shows him the truth about himself and explains the impact that will have on the world, sitting down there in that hidden room with Clark's ship and tons of books, maps, newspaper clippings, etc.
Later, Perry White tells Lois he's glad she dropped the story because:
"Can you imagine how people would react if they knew someone like this was out there?"
Well this is how they react. They see him as a godly being and seek to turn him into one.
>>69080311
>them dirty sweaty tits
>>69080194
>>69078562
Yes it is, in both movies.
He's literally stabbed in the side by kryptonite spears in both. He literally does the christ pose in space in both. He literally talks about how his father sent him to better this world in both. He's referred to as a false god in both.
I hate to break this to you, but mopey burdened space jesus isn't even exclusive to the movies, Superman comics in the 2000s were full of this.
>>69078510
>You read this in my voice, Kal El
>>69080471
He's not stabbed with the spear in this one, but now tell me what that imagery has to say about Superman in "Returns" and tell me how it's the same message that's present in MoS and BvS.
Bear in mind - the Routh Superman had already been among people for years at that point. This one's only been in the public eye for less than two years by the start of the film and still struggling to define himself.
>>69076305
You're probably just meming but do yourself A favor and read Superman All Star or Superman For All Season. I shouldn't feel like offing myself after watching a Superman adaptation, Snyder has no understanding of the character or what he stands for.
>>69080471
Who calls him a false god? One guy, right? And it's Lex.
>>69077523
This is the dumbest shit I've ever seen.
>>69080471
it's supposed to represent how people in that world view him, the allusions (like the church painting) are meant to explain how people view it as prophetic in a sense
>>69080643
I respect your right to an opinion.
>>69077616
He's is Superman, you dumb fuck. Clark Kent, Kal-El, Superman, whatever the fuck you want to call him – he is the same entity, character, or being before he becomes a legend.
Yes, this means he's going to be a little rough around the edges. Yes, this means he's still got shit to learn. No, this does not mean he's a completely different fucking person.
The character in this film is not "Superman starting out" – the character in this film is a bastardised version of Superman starting out that we rightfully refer to as "Murderman".
>>69080616
As opposed to captain cripple manipulated by Lex.jr?
>>69080729
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZZIEkFk_NQ
watch this
>>69080736
That guy did that on his own, and he's not alone in how he sees Superman, as you can see from the crowd outside the senate hearing. Superman's a fiercely polarizing figure in the eyes of the public. Of forces that polarizing, there are two that are front and center - politics and religion. He's getting hit from both sides.
>>69080796
>"imagine $100 representing 100 people living"
>shows image of a rotating 100 dollar bill
Oh god my sides
>>69080924
just watch it fag
>>69080796
Even if this was what Snyder was consciously going for (and it absolutely was not), the very fact that it needs an explanation video for legions of confused moviegoers is proof that it wasn't successfully conveyed.
>>69080974
it was though
>>69080857
Maybe the grim cunt needs to smile.
>>69080796
>Making shitty excuses: the video
>>69080974
>>69081040
>>69081005
>2 smart 4 u
Le Sigh
Why do you faggots act like MUH JESUS IMAGERY is the most genius thing to exist, when it is literally laughable and cliche as fuck.
>>69080974
I for one, never needed it. The only two thingd that Supes ever pushes Zod through are the outer concrete supports of a parking deck and grazed down the side of one building after they're both able to fly..
>>69081078
I mean not all of it was obvious but I don't see how you didn't see a lot or even some of that.
>>69080796
>Superman doesn't have time to address collateral!
He should at least try, to illustrate that he gives a shit. At least once.
>>69081127
Like when he saved that falling soldier in Smallville and immediately got his clock cleaned?
>>69076500
Because the movie elevates him above everyone with countless lines of lofty dialogue of him being some kind of savior from the heavens.
>>69081127
he saves 43 people (excluding the family at the very end)
and the world
>>69078448
>subtle birth imagery
>'subtle'
>space dicks flying into a glowing orifice
The problem with MOS is it makes idiots feel smart and they lord their brilliant insight over all the people laughing at them for their 'Intro To Symbolism 101' film
>>69081174
One guy does - Jor-El.
>>69081265
that doesnt explain all the people who hate the film yet don't understand any of it
>>69081075
>people who like MOS are GOT fans
It all make sense now.
>>69081321
Are you from /v/ by any chance?
>>69080954
Okay, I watched it. It's a pathetic attempt at making shitty excuses for a terrible movie that completely botched its source material. Have yourself a nice day now.
>>69081106
>Guy who made the video shows up to defend it because he has that kind of time on his hands
Oh boy
>>69081107
>>69081078
Le Sigh
>>69081359
I respect your right to an opinion.
>>69081163
[citation needed]
>>69081317
Symbolism =/= Good Film
>>69081383
Nothing I can do to prove otherwise, but I only found out about that video after BvS came out.
>ctrl+f
>only 1 "zod's napped neck"
You're dissapointing me, /tv/
>>69081317
I actually had someone tell me they didn't understand why Batman wanted to fight Superman. It was explicitly conveyed several times before the big battle. Jesus, a lot of people just don't have the mental faculties to process things that aren't verbally and directly explained in a plain way. And these people have fucking careers.
I agree OP. It was certainly much better than BvS, what a giant piece of shit that was
>>69081439
Did I mention symbolism? You retards don't understand half the character motivations or simple plot elements.
My favorite part of BvS was the opening Metropolis scene that was just one giant apology for all the things wrong with MOS that DCucks spent the years between the two films defending. Even Snyder knows he fucked up, time to pack it up guys.
I'm thinking about watching this movie. How much screen time does Antje have in it?
>>69081487
It always boils down to the same ad homs.
Why bother?
>>69081317
The people who hate the film understand it fine, the idea that it's 'deep' or 'complex' to anyone other than mongoloids is just a meme
>>69081577
This is 4chan you idiot. It's beyond saving and must be allowed to die.
>>69081588
sure, tell yourself that i guess.
>>69081625
>muh birth imagery
>muh jesus symbolism
Never seen a college art film, anon? You'll find a lot of deep, nuanced complexity and symbolism there.
>>69079597
I appreciated it. Wasn't as clear to me as it was to you, I guess.
>>69081417
https://youtu.be/xqlaXylsMwQ?t=98
at about 1:39
>>69081439
>>69081487
Yes, let's refrain from disparaging the complex symbolism just yet. Let's start with the basics, like all the characterization that just flew right over everyone's heads. I have yet to see anyone fully articulate valid reasons for hating the movie other than "it's shit," "muh superman," "muh batman," and "muh awkward martha scene."
>>69079995
When people give a shit.
So never.
>>69079816
DUDE THIS ONE SCENE IS KINDA LIKE AN OLD OUTER LIMITS EPISODE
WHO KNEW A THING COULD LOOK LIKE ANOTHER THING ON PURPOSE
SUCH POETIC GENIUS
SUCH POETRY
>>69076622
>Marvel Army
This is why /v/ should stay on their own board.
The projecting virgin's eternal "console war" shouldn't effect the movie board just because this shitty super hero stuff attracts the same angry nerd audience
>>69081665
You recognize the symbolism, yet fail to grasp its meaning within the context of the greater narrative being crafted. U mad?
>>69081687
it's just a minority of people who are too stubborn to admit they were incorrect once.
Most people I know who disliked it enjoyed it more on rewatching.
>>69081680
You know, I honestly didn't remember a single scene of Superman literally, physically saving someone in the film. Without punching or destroying something in order to do it. Thanks. I'm glad there's at least one.
>>69081735
Because you totally picked up on it, right?
>>69081790
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=z8EydFeuPK8#t=61
>>69076305
>in movie ads
>spastic editing
>character assassination
>shitty color filters
>brain-hemorrhaged dialogue
Why do you enjoy eating shit so much? Are you german?
>>69081735
MARVEL films reference my anus, which pushes out the same dull, laborious turd as many times as possible each year.
>>69076622
Or maybe it just didn't work for some people anon
Not everyone cares about the line you draw in the sand between two capeshit companies
>>69081258
>>69081832
>LOL MARVEL MOVIES ARE LIKE MY BUTT
DC fans in a nutshell, everyone.
>>69081846
Is this bait meant to annoy me or what
>>69081805
>The number of people who pick up on something is the barometer for whether or not it's clever
Guess how I know you're a simpleton?
>>69081767
I know I did. My partner and I made a drinking game out of it.
>>69081881
Jealous that I can quip better than the entire Avengers team combined? Don't be salty now...
>>69081832
>MARVEL films reference my anus
And your anus is still more critically acclaimed than Batman v Superman.
>inb4 BUT ITS THE AUDIENCE SCORE THAT MATTERS
>>69081815
I'm just glad he saved the 7-11 logo, now featuring the new Superman (TM) Super Gulp (TM).
>>69081943
I hope this is a troll
I would feel better of the future of humanity if I could be sure this was a troll
>>69081946
>Letting other people think for you.
A real human bean, my friend.
>>69081687
>I have yet to see anyone fully articulate valid reasons for hating the movie
Yes you have, you just ignored it or dismissed it as Marvel bias
>>69082009
>High concentration of salt detected.
Are we near an ocean or something?
>>69082014
>Ignoring the overwhelming consensus and evidence about a shitty film and insisting it's secret genius
You're like the Star Wars Ring Theory douche bags
>>69082009
Don't feed him.
>>69082086
More amazing quippery that would make Marvel jealous.
Don't quit your day job, anon.
>>69082047
Not him but I know I haven't, none that are enough of an issue to hate the film and think it's garbage, and worthy of spending a lot of time on /tv/ shitting on it.
>>69082014
>Not taking what other people think into account for a business
Say what you will about Marvel films, they are making money, which is the crux of any business. Batman v Superman, whether it's actually a good movie or not, is not liked by a lot of people, and struggled to make a profit.
This being the movie that even the most diehard Marvel shill was expecting to break 1 billion easily, if only because they have two of the most well-known and iconic fictional characters of all time.
When you can barely sell a BATMAN movie in this day and age, something is going wrong.
>>69082098
Hey i see some lemmings running off a cliff. You're gonna join them right? What do you mean no? Are you some kind of cuck?
>>69082086
This certainly would not be the pot calling the kettle black or anything because there's nothing remotely salty about comparing movies to your anus.
>>69082152
there's bad and there's giving someone something they didn't expect.
>>69082156
Hey I see a very small group of lemmings jumping off a cliff simply because the other lemmings aren't. You're gonna join them right? What do you mean no? Are you some kind of braindead sheep?
>>69082191
Good or bad, the movie was a box office disaster.
>>69082152
You keep bringing up box office profit. That's a complete non-issue.
>>69082232
Yeah, didn't understand that though, i wish i went to see it in the cinema, the film's ridiculously visceral
>>69082232
So it was bad.
It was the blockbuster launching a universe.
It's become a joke.
>>69082191
>Batman's parents die again
>Batman growls and punches criminals
>Superman saves Lois some more
>Set up for future JL films
>Pseudo-intellectualism about Gods and Men
>Superman Jesus symbolism
What exactly was the part I wasn't expecting
>>69082209
Do you get paid to respond to shitposters. God help you if you dont.
>>69082252
You're deluded if you believe that.
>>69082318
Hypocrite
>>69082347
why?
>>69082312
You know how when you order tea, and when you go to drink it, it turns out to be black coffee and there's that sudden moment of denied expectations and complete uncontrollable disgust at an unexpected flavor. That's you.
>>69082252
it's not a problem for a product to barely make money, despite making money being the only reason it was made?
Movie studios aren't making these movies out of the goodness of their own hearts anon. They are, first and foremost, a business, and the goal of any business is to make money.
Again, this was a movie that everyone was expecting to break at least a billion, even if only because of Batman.
That WB failed to sell a movie featuring BATMAN and SUPERMAN during what is arguably the height of capeshit is just crazy.
You people will like this movie in a decade or two when you stop using 4chan and rewatch it.
>>69082411
No, really, it was exactly what I thought it was going to be.
>>69082438
>watching a movie more than once
>>69082347
So are you implying that according to the box office, Avatar should be one of the best movies ever made? Oh wait you guys hate that movie too. Huh...?
>>69082438
You people will admit how bad this movie is in a decade or two when you stop using 4chan and rewatch it.
Actually, scratch that. You totally won't admit it to yourself.
>>69082476
Nope. I'm saying this >>69082418
>>69082462
So it's a problem for the studio, irrelevant to the quality of the released film.
>>69082438
This meme that a capeshit movie about dudes stabbing a monster with a glowing green spear is some kind of misunderstood masterpiece for intellectuals is the most pathetic thing I have ever experienced on this board, and that's saying an awful lot
>>69082418
Yeah but we're not arguing about the statistics; duh the numbers are there. We're arguing about the content of the movie. And DCEU is still moving forward with filming, sooooo...
>>69082543
what?
Man of Steel is literally the most emotional, powerful, meaningful and impactful cape movie ever
if you disagree, you are the problem.
>>69082554
And they will bomb after how shit BvS was.
>>69082600
it unironically is
if MoS is all we get out of this boom then it'd be worth it desu
>>69082554
The idiots who made Terminator Genisys are continuing with their sequel plans even though it underwhelmed at the box office and everyone hated it. The popularity of big, dumb, loud explosion-fests in the overseas market is allowing garbage to be continually produced, this is not a new thing. Doesn't change the fact that BvS was projected to break 2 billion dollars and it couldn't even manage to make 1.
>>69082600
I disagree.
BvS is, although MoS is close too.
>>69082587
If you can't read why are you here?
See >>69082232
>>69082602
Again, whether or not they bomb is irrelevant to discussion of the film's content.
>>69082476
>So are you implying that according to the box office, Avatar should be one of the best movies ever made?
The same point applies.
Good, bad, or just some executive shitting into a movie reel, we can argue back and forth on whether the movie was good or not until we're blue in the face.
The bottom line the companies are going to be looking at is: "Did the movie sell?"
Avatar, good or bad(I haven't seen it so I can't say), made approximately 1 metric fuckton of money, and that's all the guys behind it are going to look at.
Batman v Superman only barely made it's money back. The whole cinematic universe is going to be on very thin ice for a while. Suicide Squad, Wonder Woman, and Justice League are really going to be huge in seeing if the DCEU continues, or crashes and burns.
>>69082600
>>69082635
>>69082643
>>69082665
Quality is Subjective, bad returns is a fact.
>>69082664
What is your point? i obviously agree with it.
>>69076405
>Should've gotten a sequel with faora instead of BvS cuz "dude batman lmao"
It's a shame, the only reason they didn't do a proper sequel is because people bitched like whiny babies about MoS. I mean, fuck, even Marvel changed shit in their movies in response to the backlash. And now that there's relentless bitching about BvS, I'm afraid for the future of capeshit.
...actually, not really.
>>69082708
nope
>>69076305
Much like BvS, it had some interesting ideas but they were mostly lost in the shuffle of mass destruction and epic imagery.
>>69082772
yep
>>69082762
I don't really give a shit about the cinematic universe so it's completely irrelevant.
I'm glad we won't be getting a Cyborg movie.
Sad that the most cogent analysis comes from the Onion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqR9IOrVFPU
>>69082766
>the only reason they didn't do a proper sequel is because people bitched like whiny babies about MoS
Yeah, damn those whiners for complaining about how Snyder got absolutely everything fucking wrong
>>69082821
no u
>>69082845
What IS relevant? Or are you just arguing for shits and giggles?
>>69082540
I think maybe you should take a look at the board more often.
>>69082869
>he thinks everything in MoS is wrong
What's it like to be a retarded manchild with no perspective?
>>69082854
Thanks for this.
>>69082914
the film
>>69082954
I don't know, I'd have to ask you.
>>69076305
>>69076305
>Can we talk about this movie please?
NO GODDAMN NORMIE FAGGOTS STOP POSTING CAPESHIT GODDAMN YOU
THE MUDS NEED TO FUCKING BAN CAPESHIT FROM TV OR MAKE A NEW BOARD FOR IT
>>69082954
You think a dumb capeshit movie is a cinematic milestone and I think it's a dumb capeshit movie. I think it's clear who has perspective of the two of us, newfriend.
>>69083036
now who's arguing for the sake of it?
i agree, fag.
>>69083061
>dumb guy calls movie he doesn't understand dumb and rates it 1/10
>Hey MOS was actually good guise
>2016
>241 replies
Sigh
>>69083023
Frankly, it's amazing how it was a nice, reasoned discussion before the CAPSLOCK crowd and the Cola War kiddies stuck their noses in. Why don't you go talk about Tarkovsky or something?
>>69082854
Holy fuck I'm starting to like this Petey guy.
http://www.theonion.com/video/the-onion-reviews-avengers-age-of-ultron-38524
>>69083105
Yeah, I can't believe he missed Myzxpltk
>>69083105
>Dumb guy thinks he's smart for understanding the most obvious hamfisted themes of all time as they're shoved down this throat along with popcorn and milk duds and screams "YOU JUST DON'T GET IT" to anyone who points out that it behaves like a high budget student film
>>69083186
>dumb guy gets angry on 4chan
>>69083105
>YOU'RE JUST TOO DUMB TO UNDERSTAND MY SPACE JESUS MOVIE IT IS JUST TOO EPIC FOR YOU
You need help
>>69083186
>Btfo Mxyzpltk Misser
>>69083186
Care to expand on which themes you deem obvious and hamfisted?
Man of Steel is amazing and if you disagree you are autistic
>>69083220
I'm not mad at you, anon. I'm just disappointed.
>>69083231
Mxzypltk did it.
>>69083252
>This is what autistic people actually believe
