Farewell, my friends.
My work here is finished.
Here, at last, on the shores of the Sea, comes the end of our fellowship.
>>69051864
End? No, the journey doesn't end here. Death is just another path, one that we all must take.
>it's a you try and hide your tears sitting next to your parents in the theatre during this scene episode
>>69051975
>My friends. You bow to no one.
>>69053500
Every single god-damned time. I've watched it over a dozen times and I still can't stop myself from tearing up at this scene.
>>69051864
>Frodo, you truly are The Lord of The Rings™ now
This scene was ruined for me after I found out it was the first scene they filmed and none of the actors knew each other yet.
>>69051864
What did he mean by this?
>>69053908
no... I don't think that's right
I remember it was early in filming though
you can look through the appendices for that
Pretty great fucking ending tbqh
Finally enough time has passed for me to enjoy the movies again after that was previously impossible after having seen the hobbit "movies"
>>69051864
>Here, at last, on the shores of the Sea, comes the end of our Fellowship of the Ring™ by Peter Jackson, now on Bluray and DVD.
DROPPED
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>>69053908
they knew each other a bit by then, what's really astounding is that they had to shoot this entire scene three fucking times since the first and second shoots were out of focus and/or bad audio quality. Crying your eyes out for the third day in a row and still delivering a believable and touching performance, that takes effort.
>>69058026
I wish I could live that comfy.
>>69051864
You left out the ending
>...Go in peace! I will not say: do not weep; for not all tears are an evil.
>>69053733
>>69056101
This meme is so fucking stupid but I kek every time.
>>69051864
yo i just finished watching this too wtf so weird man
>>69053733
>>69056101
They never said that in the movie.
Can we agree that this is the Star Wars prequel trilogy of our time? There's nothing redeemable about this garbage.
>>69051864
notice that the elven ring that gandalf had but was hidden, is now visible.
this trilogy was GOAT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVBhQ0S5tuk
;_;
>>69058189
>such high expectations when I heard they were making a hobbit movie
>2 parts, oh ok cool they'll have more time to really flesh it out
>3 parts, oh that's weird but ok
>CGI out the ass
>boring as fuck
>Ayy dude 4/20 lol
>only 4 years old and looks dated
>original is 15 years old, looks great
>>69058189
I actually liked Bilbo as a protagonist a lot more than Frodo.
>>69058189
>>69058308
a good editing (and avoiding almost entirely the last movie) makes it a 7/10
the hobbit movies were not that bad
>>69058338
Bilbo was the only good part
>>69058338
Yeah, that's all it really had going for it. Bilbo is a lot more heroic a character than Frodo. Hell, how long did Bilbo keep the ring without going full Gollum? Frodo was already coming apart after a few months.
>>69058189
I saw the third in 3D HFR. It was an absolute fucking nightmare. Perhaps the worst experience I've had at the cinema.
>>69058364
The last one was pretty shit. the first and second were ok
>>69058399
Actually frodo had the ring for years. In the book frodo inherits bag end and the ring and gandalf diappears for like 8 years. The whole time frodo had the ring. Also the trip takes several years i think. All in all it took 15 years with the ring before he started becomeing really possesive over it and only when it was working it's hardest to seduce him. But it all falls in line with hobbits being resistent to it's evil.
Some tolkien simple country folks are the only pure ones allegory.
>>69051864
>We set out to save the Shire, Sam, and it has been saved, but not for me.
>>69058503
The trip only took a few months, tops.
>>69058475
you arent a nigger what are you going to do with a girl that thick
she sure as fuck wont feel your tiny white boy dick
>>69058364
Thicc
>>69058427
i liked azog
bilbo is cool and funny at times
though tonally different the movies hold a candl, albiet a very small candle.. like a birthday cake candle..
>>69058475
i wish i knew who she was because those tree trunk for legs give me an erocktion, i found that photo on this site
someone know who this chung-li-esque beauty is?
>>69058503
Ah, that's right. I forgot about that initial time jump after he inherited Bag End.
Still, being able to voluntarily leave the ring behind after owning it for decades says a ton about Frodo.
>>69058538
as if a good looking white girl would ever sleep with a black guy. Top kek
>>69058535
Like i said. In the books everything took much longer. One of the only inaccuracies of the movie. The timeline was changed decidedly to create a sense of urgency in the action and create a coherent narrarative to go with the pacing. Pacing and sense of time and place were something decidedly missing in tolkiens books. I personally like it as it adds to the mystic folk lorish feel of the books but it's something that most modern fantasy writers are very aware of.
>>69058547
Bilbo was cool. Azog was a little goofy looking in my opinion
>>69051864
>>69053500
>>69058514
i cry like a bitch
EVERY.
FUCKIN.
VIEWING.
>>69056101
>>69058538
I want her to suffocate me to death by squeezing those legs of love around my throat. While I masturbate no less
>>69053500
>Thank you, Aragorn, you are truly The Return of the King™ now.
>>69058609
I wonder if the same would have applied to all hobbits. It's part of tolkiens agrarian fantasy that the hobbits are resistent to evil but we know that some of them are evil from the burning of the shire.
Like is it bilbos family; just a coincidence; or all hobbits? Would we have gotten bassically the same story with mary and pippen.
>>69051948
>And with "we" I actually mean "you". When I die, I just go back to what is practically paradise (which will never be alowed to enter), while with you noone really knows what will happen to you when the next Orc smashes your head in.
>>69058691
this is so fucking dumb lmao
>>69058718
>I will not say do not weep, for not all tears are an evil.
>>69058738
>we know that some of them are evil from the burning of the shire.
Were some hobbits actually on board with that?
I thought that Saruman had simply gone in and raped the Shire with whatever forces he had left.
It's been a while since I read the books.
>>69058811
Yeah the sackville bagginses were trading with saruman before the fall of isenguard. They used the money to buy up debt and unused land and turned the shire into a plantation. Then after isenguard fell saruman showed up and starting forcing the indentured servants to become actual slaves and work in factories to help him build a new army.
>>69058691
Fucking saved.
LOTR has the perfect amount of man-emotion. It highlights slightly feminine shit that most men want to do, like admit our bromantic feelings, sing drinking songs, and see the beauty of nature.
>>69058738
Resistant, yes, but don't forget that Gollum straight-up murdered his own brother just to have the ring in the first place. Some are just more resistant than others.
>>69058995
Eh. Techniquely gollum wasn't a hobbit. Of you look at the geneology of the riverfolk they are most likely related to men and not at all likely to be realted to hobbits as they appear in different times and regions and riverfolk follow human migration. I'm a big faggot yes.
>>69058901
So basically money and greed corrupts.
>>69058535
Yes but in the book a Gandalf does a lot more than just going to Minas Tirith
>>69059106
Yeah tolkein said he was originnaly going to take that bit out because it felt kind of hamfisted.
>>69058189
I liked Smaug's initial appearance. Until he starts breathing fire, and just turns into a big dumb dinosaur who's easily outwitted at every turn.
>>69058189
I have to remind myself occasionally that those movies even came out.
>>69059046
He was a Stoor, which is technically a type of hobbit
>i would have followed you my brother..my captain...my king
>>69059314
>ywn follow Aragorn on a quest that decides the fate of the world between the forces of good and the tyranny of evil
why even live
Silmarillion TV series when?
I want to experience Turin and Beren :(
You know something that bothered me in The Fellowship of the Ring? The fight between Gandalf and Saruman. They're Istari, Maiar in the flesh.
For a battle with such far-reaching consequences, it was presented as just a generic wizard fight. Since those events weren't fleshed out in the book, Jackson could have depicted it as what really happens when lesser gods oppose each other and why it's a bad idea to have Gandalf or anyone of similar power to go head-to-head with Sauron.
In other words, the devastation at Isengard could have began with that fight.
>>69059379
I would follow that man straight into the gates of Hell. Or through the Black Gate, whichever's more convenient.
>>69059538
When Christopher gets his Jew hands off of the rights and dies.
>>69058189
>>69058189
Do the fan edits improve The Hobbit substantially? From what I read practically all of them remove Tauriel from the movie, and that alone would make the movies ten times more watchable
>>69051864
good night, sweet prince
>>69059584
>implying hackson read the silmarilion
lmao
DON'T YOU LET GO! Don't let go....
REEEEEEEEACH
>>69059584
It was a wizard fight because that's exactly what they were, don't forget that that they were limited in power by Eru, as he didn't want any more unbound Maia wrecking shit as they pleased and the Istari weren't meant to win the conflict by force. A full powered Maiar like Melian could shit out impregnable magical barriers that protected an entire kingdom and lasted for ages like it was nothing, which is something that clearly was way beyond the means of any of the Istari.
>>69059841
please respond
>>69060217
I haven't watched any, but I've heard there's one out there that's getting a lot of positive buzz.
"How do you pick up the threads of an old life? How do you go on, when in your heart, you begin to understand, there is no going back? There are some things that time cannot mend. Some hurts that go too deep… that have taken hold."
>>69060839
Poor Frodo, all he wanted to do was chill out and do hobbit things
>watching trilogy with dudebro
>Sam and Frodo emotional moment
>"LMAO those dudes are mad gay for each other xDDD"
>>69059314
This right fucking here gets me every time.
>"To be caught in youth by 1914 was no less hideous an experience than in 1939 . . . by 1918 all but one of my close friends were dead."
>>69061417
>>69061417
Reminder that George R R Martin, master of fantasy, claimed Tolkien's depiction of war was very dishonest, despite his service in the war to end all wars, because it didn't involve enough sexual violence.
>>69058399
>how long did Bilbo keep the ring without going full Gollum?
Irrelevant since the ring wasn't really awake yet since sauron counted it as lost and was laying low in dol guldur.
That being said bilbo was very posessive and secretive about it. Wether it was lying to everyone when he first found it, or sperging out on gandalf.
Hobbits are naturally resistant to corruption because they had no ambition outside of drnking fucking and eating. Frodo was mostly fine until they got outside of mordor.
>>69061538
rr fartin is a retarded hack and only retarded plebs who dont want porn on their browser history watch his shitshow
after reading what you said i hate him now
>>69061538
I always hated that fat faggot, and your post only strengthens that hatred
>>69061607
>>69061651
before I get accused of bullshit you can read more here
http://www.rollingstone.com/tv/news/george-r-r-martin-the-rolling-stone-interview-20140423?page=4
>Ruling is hard. This was maybe my answer to Tolkien, whom, as much as I admire him, I do quibble with. Lord of the Rings had a very medieval philosophy: that if the king was a good man, the land would prosper. We look at real history and it’s not that simple. Tolkien can say that Aragorn became king and reigned for a hundred years, and he was wise and good. But Tolkien doesn’t ask the question: What was Aragorn’s tax policy? Did he maintain a standing army? What did he do in times of flood and famine? And what about all these orcs? By the end of the war, Sauron is gone but all of the orcs aren’t gone – they’re in the mountains. Did Aragorn pursue a policy of systematic genocide and kill them? Even the little baby orcs, in their little orc cradles?
>The war that Tolkien wrote about was a war for the fate of civilization and the future of humanity, and that’s become the template. I’m not sure that it’s a good template, though. The Tolkien model led generations of fantasy writers to produce these endless series of dark lords and their evil minions who are all very ugly and wear black clothes. But the vast majority of wars throughout history are not like that.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3110466/Game-Thrones-creator-defends-rape-scenes-Author-says-dishonest-boring-leave-sexual-violence.html
>'But if you’re going to write about war, and you just want to include all the cool battles and heroes killing a lot of orcs and things like that and you don’t portray [sexual violence], then there’s something fundamentally dishonest about that.
>>69061538
Fuck that fat fuck
>>69061538
>implying Martin's service in the Buffet to end all Buffets doesn't qualify him to talk
>>69061538
“The best fantasy is written in the language of dreams. It is alive as dreams are alive, more real than real ... for a moment at least ... that long magic moment before we wake.
Fantasy is silver and scarlet, indigo and azure, obsidian veined with gold and lapis lazuli. Reality is plywood and plastic, done up in mud brown and olive drab. Fantasy tastes of habaneros and honey, cinnamon and cloves, rare red meat and wines as sweet as summer. Reality is beans and tofu, and ashes at the end. Reality is the strip malls of Burbank, the smokestacks of Cleveland, a parking garage in Newark. Fantasy is the towers of Minas Tirith, the ancient stones of Gormenghast, the halls of Camelot. Fantasy flies on the wings of Icarus, reality on Southwest Airlines. Why do our dreams become so much smaller when they finally come true?
We read fantasy to find the colors again, I think. To taste strong spices and hear the songs the sirens sang. There is something old and true in fantasy that speaks to something deep within us, to the child who dreamt that one day he would hunt the forests of the night, and feast beneath the hollow hills, and find a love to last forever somewhere south of Oz and north of Shangri-La.
They can keep their heaven. When I die, I'd sooner go to middle Earth"
Grrm
>>69061538
>>69061662
fuck i hate everyone so much right now
>>69061712
Complete fucking hypocrite to boot
>>69061712
I'm surprised the whole thing wasn't just describing food.
>>69061712
so he basically took a shit all over this because it was more lucrative to write exactly the 'mud brown and olve drab' version of fantasy than do what he praises here
No really that's how I would describe ASOIAF, literally mud brown like the shit flowing from Dany's ass
>>69058751
common misconception
everyone, including humans (and hobbits by extension), goes to valinor when they die. the humans just don't stay there.
>>69061712
If that's an example of his writing I'm glad I've avoided it.
>>69061829
For Martin that's actually a cut above and far more poignant than anything you'll actually read in his books.
>>69061822
wrong
>>69058189
the songs were nice? i liked the dragon CGI and martin freeman's acting.
>>69061884
wrong
>The Halls of Mandos stood on the northern shores of Valinor,[1] looking out across the Encircling Sea. They were said to grow in size as the World aged, and their walls were hung with the tapestries of Námo's spouse Vairë, depicting all the events of unfolding history.
>It was to the Halls of Mandos that the spirits of Elves and Men were gathered to await their different fates, and so Mandos was given its name of the Halls of Awaiting.[2][note 1] After a time, the immortal Elves could be re-embodied, and return from the Halls to their kin in Aman. Men had a different fate, a fate which, even among the Lords of Valinor, only Mandos and Manwë truly understood. No one, however, not even Morgoth, could escape the Halls without Mandos' permission.[3]
everyone goes to valinor
>>69061712
EVERYTHING this fat nigger has written is the exact opposite of this. In fact he constantly bitches about this very depiction of fantasy and tries to go counter to it with all his ability.
Towers of Minas Tirith? The halls of Camelot? Yeah no shit but those are all from better works than anything he's shat allover a page. Thomas Malory was a medieval rogue and villain but the characters in Le Morte D'Arthur are STILL more likable, human and relatable than any fucking 'realistic' character this fat bastard has written.
>>69059314
>Aragorn then wears Boromir's arm-guards for the remainder of the trilogy
>>69061367
Nothing gay about Frodo and Sam or Gimli and Legolas, they were just bros.
Bilbo and Thorin, however were homo for each other.
>>69061538
>"People unfamiliar with the books have been asking, "What does a fantasy written fifty years ago have to say to the 21st century?" To that there are two answers.
>The first is that, despite Tolkien's attempts to distance himself from an autobiographical interpretation of the trilogy, the fact is that the books are clearly informed by the experience of the world wars, particularly that of a British junior officer in the First World War. Like Tolkien as a young man, Frodo takes part in a nightmare crisis that he cannot escape and that neither he nor his world seems likely to survive. The first half of the 20th century will not be the last time people face such a crisis. The film captures Frodo's desperation constrained by duty very well.
>The second answer is the trilogy's implicit model of history. In every age, evil takes another form. It can be defeated, and history allows some generations a holiday. However, we should not be surprised when the Shadow grows menacing again. It is hard to imagine a message more relevant to 2001."
But no, Martin's first thought is "BUT WHAT WAS ARAGORN'S TAX POLICY"
>>69061538
>complains about realism
>makes a map that literally looks like a little child drew it
>>69062043
Mandos is not exactly in Valinor.
>At last Frodo, you formed the Fellowship of the Ring, conquered the Two Towers and allowed for the Return of the King
>You truly are a The Lord of the Rings
Fuck. I wouldn't know whether to join him in Valinor or stay in Middle Earth if I had the choice. What would you do, Anons?
>>69058064
Why can't you? Move somewhere rural and only purchase expensive, high quality furniture for your house. That shit looks good and more importantly lasts more than a lifetime
>>69062208
>pic
Isn't that from Excalibur?
>>69051864
Why did you capitalize Sea? That's bothering me.
>>69053500
I tear up every time
>>69058189
Yes. New Star Wars is that bad.
>>69062983
Now on netflix and Hulu
>>69062208
La Mort d'Arthur maybe? Frenchfag here.
>>69058308
You left out
>made Gandalf cry
>>69067061
This alone makes them unforgivable.
>>69058189
>tfw will never get another opportunity to see Evangeline Lilly as an elf but won't watch The Hobbit trilogy for obvious reasons
Feels bad man.
Are the extended editions still up on Amazon?
>>69063283
Misty Mountain crosses like half the continent WTF
>>69058186
Extended edition.
>>69051864
Sure, Game of Thrones is more nuanced in terms of good and bad etc, but how can anyone deny Tolkein's writing is far superior to Martin's
>>69062837
What the fuck are you trying to pull? The other anon caught you out. Mandos is in Valinor.
>>69058361
Edit out any scene without Bilbo and maybe the council and it becomes much more watchable.
>>69067685
Arda is completely artificial, and was fairly orderly in original design before Melkor started putting his dick in everything. As far as I remember his First Age fortress was much further to the north, but it wouldn't surprise me if those mountains used to be an actual wall for something. Mordor's mountains are, literally, fortress walls for an entire country, because that's how Sauron's boss rolled.
>>69051864
END THE FILM, WIZARD
IT'S BEEN FOUR HOURS
MAGIC UP SOME BLOOD IN MY ARSE
>>69063283
If you are a mortal there is no use going to Valinor.
>>69058189
>The Hobbit came out 2012
that can't be right.
Anyone else completely incapable of remembering Tolkien's names? The characters, the races, the places. All this shit just blurs together in my head, even when I was a kid reading the books.
I don't understand how anyone remembers Valndor or Glorfnor or Moradru, how do you keep this shit straight?
>>69068474
It's just nerd powers. Either you have it or you don't.
>>69068474
It was harder as a kid reading it. It is easy now that I appreciate the story more.
>>69068514
I'm a programmer. I'm obsessed with Star Trek. I've DM'd by own D&D 3.5 and 4e sessions with 5-8 players. I play Dwarf Fortress almost daily.
WHY DOES THIS ELUDE ME
>>69051864
>Finally, we have become The Return of the King©.
Really, Peter? I could take Dead Alive, but not this.
>>69064635
Yup
>>69068588
dwarf fortress rules
>>69061662
What's wrong with that? Is he wrong? He just wants to write a different type of fantasy.
>>69068873
>>69061662
>there’s something fundamentally dishonest about that
if he just wanted to write his own shit that would be fine.. but, instead, he chooses to insult tolkin and claim his works are superior simply because he doesn't like the fantasy genre to contain too much fantasy.
>>69069129
>fine..
didn't mean to include the second period.
>>69069129
Hey man, you're entitled to dislike stuff about others' works. I don't think he's saying that he's better than Tolkien, just that he views writing fantasy differently.
>>69061538
>even more dual wielding faggots
>90% of shire exposition takes place in a brothel with loud moaning Hobbits taking up the entire background
>Frodo spends every scene memeing and drinking
>Aragorn gets shanked by a goblin slave when he gets ambushed in an alley
>Gondor guards hyped as THE elite fighting force in middle earth... rekt by goblins who just picked up a sword
>Arwen kills Elrond because he was too weak to avenge Aragorn's death and go to war with Sauron on his own
>Sauron is just an old guy in a tree
>elven blades can cut through anything and are the only weapons that can kill ring wraith
>ring wraiths show up like twice maybe
>Witch King spends 5 minutes berating Eowyn for being a woman before she kills him... goes on to just travel round abusing plot armor to beat ever increasing odds
>whole chapter devoted to Arwen shitting herself
>Boromir doesn't actually realize his mistake before he dies and instead just doubles down on the "I was right we should have used the ring" thing
>orcs still just as orcish but now with more rape
>Rohan never actually gets around to aiding Gondor and spends the entire series embroiled in its own political drama
>series never actually gets finished everyone just resigns that GRRM is going to die from terminal fats before the end.
>TV adaptation has no idea what the fuck it is doing
>merchandise non-existent
>by the midway point every interesting or enjoyable character is dead and all the remaining characters are boring
>shark jumped in first book, GRRM spends the rest of his life writing fluff that doesn't advance the plot, prequels and killing off everyone he can to a hide his writer'so block
>the fellowship of fire and ice
>a dance of two towers
>return of the dragons
BRAVO
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>>69069198
god dam dude
>>69068873
a)He's not a very good writer, he doesn't really think about things he borrows from history and doesn't bother to do research even on things he himself says are important.
b)Criticizes Tolkien, an old Oxford professor who was mainly interested in creating a believable fake mythology for his invented languages to live in, for not writing in the realist or postmodernist style and not including rape and diarrhea as powerful narrative tools.
He's the very model of a modern genre fiction general; he's not very well-read or well-educated but feels like raw talent and experience can make up for it, and as a result he talks a lot of smack.
>>69053908
>Filming out of order.
Why?
>>69069424
>how are films made
>>69053733
>"I'm glad I could witness The Lord of the Rings™ The Return of the King™ Special Extended Edition 4-disc set with over twelve hours of bonus footage"
>>69058691
>>69058767
They actually do say the titles in all the films
>>69053500
>>69051975
>Do you remember the Shire, Mr. Frodo?
I've seen that movie maybe 100 times and that line still gets me.
>>69053908
stop lying, they knew each other very well at that point - but had to do two re-shoots which were grueling.
>>69068412
>I hope you had the time of your life
>>69058364
I thought 1 and 2 were decent solely because they were Tolkeinverse
3 was irredeemable though
>>69063364
I only need furniture that last about 1 lifetime
>>69051864
But did he forget second breakfast?
>>69058475
>cottage cheese legs
when she gets up she'd look like a lord of nurgle
>>69061538
>demanding realism in high fantasy
>>69061538
speak of the devil https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAAp_luluo0
>>69063283
Mortals go to heaven when they die, whilst immortals get to live forever but eventually get bored. Tolkien called it the "gift of men", where the Younger Children get to go beyond Arda, probably to heaven with Eru.
>>69069198
nice
>>69051864
(Cries a little) farewell grandfather
>>69062208
>>69061820
ASOIAF uses a range of tones to create contrasts. This is where other fantasies often fail. When everything is bright and colorful, then nothing is fantastic. But when you show the grounded and soiled, then the fantastic pops out from that.
>>69062310
That fucking ghoul.
>>69069129
where does he claim his stuff is better
george rr martin is a big fat hippie nerd. he loves tolkien and hates war. then he kinda smashed those two opinions together into a book series.
>>69059046
If you read the intro On Hobbits, it makes things pretty absolutely clear that he was a hobbit. I guess you could argue some kind of proto-hobbit, but it was just back when hobbits were less homogenized.
>>69062793
>>69063488
Is this loss?
>>69062793
how the fuck does this even work
>>69071289
GRRM's only strength is in world building detail. His sentence level writing is high school level at best.
>>69058364
lol
