So, am I the only one that thought Seven of Nine might have been right? The caretaker was an inside job!
I don't get why the non-Maquis crew were so scared and worried about being stranded in deep space. Did they only sign up for weekends?
>>69049036
Because they couldn't access the Federation internet and play their Holodeck MMO's.
>>69049036
Because they were a lifetime away from home at highwarp. Imagine being stranded in the middle of the amazon in like the 1600's.
>>69049036
I don't understand why the maquis was a fucking thing.
>oh it's so great to be home
>um you can see anything on Earth you want in the holodeck anytime you want numbnuts
>>69049341
Except their family and friends.
>>69049341
Autist or psychopath detected.
>>69049220
an attempt to not lose the DS9 viewers who probably expected a serialized story and weren't fooled for a second into thinking this was going to be like TNG
>>69048694
>can take ships from all over galaxy for your massive rape spree.
>send damaged cardi ship back
>doesnt just send ocampa people somewhere else to safety.
>>69049435
boohoo then don't enlist and get assigned to Voyager
>>69048694
What triggered the fuck out of me was when they got in contact with that Romulan research vessel and didn't just send them all back and put them in stasis or something until the appropriate time? I mean fucking seriously...
pomposting
>>69049579
>tfw I grew up watching Reba
>didn't even realize who that actress was until I looked it up and found out
>>69049603
pomin' your thread with firecrotch
>>69049669
>>69049720
How about Seven?
>>69049669
>>69049688
>>69049776
She's a nasty skank bruv.
>>69049797
Far better, prefer her without makeup though.
She doesn't look anything like Naomi Wildman.
>>69049804
>>69049939
What a fucking bratt. I'd fuck what a bratt.
"Commander, tell me about your sexual organs."
>>69050388
When I was rewatching that episode it triggered a fap session
>tfw hopelessly attracted to androgynous people
>the idea of fucking a sexless androgynous species and having them explore your sexed genitalia and body
Hnnnngg
>>69050740
Is that something from TOS?
>>69049463
>>69049220
Dropping the ball like everything else towards the end of DS9 and everything in voyager.
Like what the fuck was the point of the Marquis in Voyager when they only make trouble for like 5 episodes then just fully integrate.
>>69051130
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Alfa_177_canine
I said give me the brandy!
>>69049527
Because it was like 17 years into the past.
Not only would it have polluted the timeline but also brought doubles into their past timeline.
>>69051915
>polluted the timeline
Not if it's kept secret
>doubles
A non-issue
>>69051985
I can see you just want to bump the thread, this episode is one they got right. A quantum reality has infinite number of causal reactions. Sending them back would have an effect on the reality just by them being there.
But that's not the issue, they wanted to get back to their family and friends. With double it is an issue. It creates a reality they don't want to go back to and could pollute the timeline if they tried returning to their former lives.
I'm sorry but the episode had absolutely no flaws from the standpoint.
there are plenty number of
>>69052110
there are plenty of other episodes your brain shouldn't have trouble with, but having trouble with this one should be concerning for you.*
>>69049527
More, why didn't they just ask Quinn to send them back home. Was waiting the entire episode for it, but they never asked him despite he seemed perfectly nice and accommodating.
>>69052204
And pretty much this.
They needed an excuse to bring Q on.
They were really lazy or didn't care about episodes like this where there was an option that was either forgotten or Janeway went crazy to account for it.
"This has to work. It'll mean so much to people back home." - Harry, after being in the Delta quadrant for just 6 episodes
>>69053567
>hey, give gramma a kiss *coughing fit*
>>69052461
I hated episodes where they made things purposely ridiculous when they didn't need to.
>Harry goes through temporal inversion and ends up in San Francisco back with GF and alien Italian
>He either stays or tries to go back
>Has to recreate everything in the cabin as he's going through the anomaly
>Oh, and for some reason I was right in the middle of beaming off the ship at the exact time I entered this thing
Why not make it something less ridiculous? The show went out of it's way to do that for the same of "tense ending" but in the end it all seems laughably unbelievable within an already science fiction world.
>>69052204
It wasn't about easy ways to get back you fucking autist, it was about honour and Doing the Right Thing
I get the impression from the moment they arrived in the delta quadrant, Harry would suck 500 dicks to get back to Earth. When even enlist?
>>69053738
>why
>>69051353
i think it was more for a bit more varied character background. they're the rednecks of the crew.... it was a reason for added tension, like Belana being a 'hothead' all the time. they didn't have the same discipline. it meant something for the first season or so, and you got the mike tyson face tattoos guy which was something new for the aesthetics of star trek.
but the double agent girl, the jem'hadar that has jakotes baby later on was good, that was part of marqui.
>>69053880
>the jem'hadar
the thought of Seska being a double agent ketracel-white using Jem'Hadar and having a baby with Chakotay
This picture of Jolene Blalock doesn't even look like a real person.
Like a very high-res CGI for some racy new video game.
>it's a holodeck episode
>>69051353
This… is a holy time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5t5QAWSDFI
>>69048694
No, I'm kept up some nights asking myself why Voyager was equipped with two tri-cobalt devices. Why the fuck did they need weapons of mass destruction that could open a hole in subspace when going after the Maquis? What did the Maquis have that would warrant the use of such weapons?
>it's a Klingon sex episode
>>69054205
This is uncanny
>>69049220
fun fact: The Maquis was created especially for Voyager. There are only two earlier appearances of them, one in TNG and one in a DS9 two-parter, both in the year before Voyager aired. These episodes were only made to make the audience think of the Maquis as a natural element of the Trek universe and not as a one-off freak plot-device gimmick for the new series.
The Maquis was actually created to add internal conflict that TNG lacked but without the need to have one species relegated to that cause. The inspiration were the defiant native American settlers from a TNG episode. And that's why Chakotay is an Indian. But later he had no connection to these settlers and was simply from Earth but with native American background.
>>69051415
I really like this episode. Shatner ripped the thing to pieces.
>>69051415
>evil Kirk
Which evil Kirk was that? The evil Kirk from the mirror universe, the evil Kirk split of from the transporter accident or the evil Kirk when Kirks body was possessed by his ex?
Remember that episode where chakotay does peyote with a bunch of random aliens and ends up in another Galaxy?
>>69051915
I'll being doubles to this thread
>>69055482
Nice try, officer..
BUT YOU BETRAYED YOUR OATH!
>(to get doubles)
>>69055330
transporter
>>69054205
>We can make her better
>In our skyrim waifu maker
>>69054266
>I hate fun
>>69055065
>This episode was so cool. I just loved seeing that old Klingon cruiser again.
>>69054266
Holodeck episodes are some of the most comfy and enjoyable (at least on TNG).
How can you not like Moriarty? Slade Bender? Or what about the hallucinogenic evolution of the ship's computer (pic related)?
Leave this village! OUT YOU GHAST!
>>69050740
RIP dogger
>>69055153
No idea if this is bullshit but it kinda makes sense, 'Maquis' sounds like a Francofied Native American term
Remember the time when chakotay broke out of prison with the narcos and high tailed it to Acapulco?
>>69056596
>(at least on TNG)
Vic Fontaine did NOTHING wrong
>>69051915
>polluted the timeline
Thank God they changed their mind and changed the timeline for the show's ending
>Temporal Cold War episode
>It Ain't Me starts playing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fortunate_Son_(Star_Trek:_Enterprise)
>>69048694
WHAT DOES HE MEAN LIKE THIS?
I REALLY WANT TO KNOW!
I've seen this alot but the caretakers and this specific reference escapes me
SOMEONE PLOX
TELLS ME!!!!!!
>>69057011
>We're not going to do something logical because we might do something against our own logic in the future.
That's literally your post.
>>69057127
I don't know what kind of autism you're on, but this is a reference to 'The Voyager Conspiracy' in which Seven finds a bunch of evidence that the whole trip was orchestrated by Starfleet to scope the Delta Quadrant for integration
>>69048694
SEVEN OF NINE HAD BIG TITS½
>>69057011
>>69048694
Then Janeway would have been in on it and would have made more efforts to secure alliances and a fleet instead of just "maximum warp" towards earth.
So, was Voyager pulled into the Delta Quadrant, as Captain Janeway claims, or was it all a part of the proposed Federation/Caretaker/Kazon alliance to keep inconsistent writing and dumb plots quarantined in a single quadrant?
>>69057306
OP's just making conversation. The episode clearly determines that she was having some sort of delusional issue that the Doctor later explains.
But the Caretaker episode could've been a really good pilot up until the end when we realize that Janeway's logic for not using the array is partly idiotic, at least when it came to the Ocampa because they were all going to die anyways after the energy left by the Caretaker ran out in five years. This is something never brought up again by the crew.
>>69049036
>>69049797
>>69050205
>mfw I was a teenager living in Chicago when the big shitstorm came out about her divorced husband Jack Ryan forcing her to do sex acts in public.
>>69057387
Yes, I am aware. I've seen that episode. I was making a joke in the spirit of Seven's wild allegations. Probably should've quoted OP and posted a picture of Jeri Ryan, but meh.
The fact that the Ocampa will die off in five years is a big factor, bit it never should've been the prime motivator for Janeway to destroy the array. The logic should've been "this technology is insanely powerful, and these jokers in bad rasa wigs should never have access to it... but maybe we take some pieces with us..."or maybe even just have the array not work at all without the Caretaker. It didn't need to be blown up, necessarily.
The Ocampa should've really been an afterthought at best.
>>69057460
I never heard about this at the time (was also a teenager). Is that seriously what happened to her?
>>69057628
Yyyyyyyyup. Was all over the goddamn news. Illinois (well, it's Chicago. Everything that happens in that state is Chicago) has some of the most brutal, byzantine politics in America. Here's how it went down; he (Jack Ryan) took her out to a bunch of swingers clubs and he was a huge cuck so he wanted to get off with her fucking other dudes in the club.
She said "no, fuck that" after what I'm assuming as at least a brief dalliance with the idea, and divorced his ass. The documents were sealed up, but when Jack Ryan ran for senator they unsealed them and spilled his dirty ass laundry everywhere.
Guess who won the senate seat? A little nappy headed fucker named Barrack Obama.
So you see anon, all actions have consequences :D:D:D
>the real Naomi's corpse while Wildman happily carries off her baby replacement
>the phase shift in duplicate Harry and Naomi's DNA
>yfw Voyager's mission in the pilot looks like a typical job for the Defiant (small, maneuverable ship, hunting Maquis)
>Sisko would have blown the array up and still managed to get home.
>>69057783
Can we not do this again?
Trek is full of duplicates.
>>69057737
while it is true people believe she fucked over a future politician, some believe she was a plant because the amount of corruption in the state, anything is possible.
Party patronage is basically a real currency.
I don't think that had anything to do with Barack though, that was almost 15 years before his time.
Though our govenor did go to prison for trying to sell his senate seat.
>>69057855
I have to correct myself apparently the divorce was earlier but it did come back up against barack. Funny.
>>69057855
You've never seen the 'Seven of Nine is responsible for the Obama presidency' pic? I don't have it saved but it gets posted every once in a while
>>69057584
In the end, I can just say that the writers had MONTHS to come up with a good story for a well funded pilot that was recast more than once (at least with the main actor) and they couldn't even clean up the ending a little bit.
It really was as if they were lacking what most writers should innately have and that is to see how one action affects the other along the storyline, why the characters do what they do, etc.
Voyager is the only Trek series that really falls apart on repeat viewings because the flaws are so terribly obvious where as the newness of the series the first time around allows you to relegate the facts to the what becomes of the story.
>>69057897
Oh yeah, Rod Blago, he was a piece of work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JquRjP9UoAs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1IqRBX6kqM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxeMoJhDJkA
The best part was that after he got caught RED FUCKING HANDED in the "Golden Senate Seat" fiasco, he pleaded innocent and dindu nuffin.
>>69057954
He was already in Illinois Congress so he would have found another open seat. Though timing is everything in politics because he gave the 04' opening to democratic convention. So if he came into senate later he might have missed his chance but who knows.
>>69058000
We must have sent more politicians to jail for corruption than any other state, I swear. Didn't Jesse Jackson Jr just go to prison a few years ago too?
>>69049216
I wish Voyager had the same feel as Aguirre.
>>69058048
Yeah, but DC had some pretty awesome scandals too like the mayor going to prison for crack and hookers and getting re-elected. Wore an African Dashiki around and basically fucked shit up.
But yeah it's always been a running joke in Chicago since before the fire burnt it all down, even memeing the phrase Chicago Politics. It's an awesome place though but it's basically Gotham City with niggers.
>>69058134
Every single day that it is warm, you can count on some black person being shot, they must have bets on this in Las Vegas.
>>69057964
There is a certain lack of continuity in Voyager that I dislike. Only upswing is that you can watch the series in almost any order (as long as you keep the Kes years and the Seven years separate).
While I think the Kazon were kind of a crap bad guy race, it's not like that's a new thing. The Ferengi were that in season 1 of TNG. But it's like they wrote themselves into a corner with the Kazon, and never did the exploration of the culture like was fine with the Ferengi (partly because they wrote Kazon so blandly that they were convinced there was no potential there). And yeah, they would've had to move beyond their space eventually, but a better exploration of the Traeb, a more fleshed out backstory, and better understanding of the street gangs that served as the basis for the Kazon would've been a big help to the early series, and probably would've set the bar for the rest of the show much higher.
>>69057460
Worked out pretty well for his opponent
>you're forgetting the temporal prime directive, captain
>the hell with it
>>69057460
sucks we didnt have fast internet and phone-cams back then.
>>69058428
"To hell with it" should've been her phrase instead of "do it."
>>69058555
>there's coffee in that nebula
>proceeds to murder people without caffeine, somehow a nebula's nearby
>>69059466
>"My murder senses are tingling." >"Mister Paris, ram the ship through the exposed molten core of that rogue planet. Why? We need to pay fewer actors."
>"Mister Kim, I'll be sending you on a suicide mission to get my missing keurig from that Borg sphere."
>"B'Lana, stop being in so many episodes."
>"Neelix, scoop out your litter box to make me more of that gourmet Talaxian coffee."
>/pol/tards can't stop insulting Janeway, the only female captain
>don't say anything about Sisko or Archer who out-crazy Janeway by an order of magnitude
>>69059979
Honestly, I love Voyager for what it is. It's just fun to take Janeway, and any other Trek captain for that matter, to the extremes. I'm watching Voyager at current, so Kathy gets the attention now. /pol/ has nothing to do with it.
>>69060165
Voyager has plenty of good episodes. Once your passed that warp 10 episode theres lots of quality
>>69060273
Agreed. Bride of Chaotica is easily my favorite episode.
>>69060821
Don't need your cheek today t b h
>>69060821
I actually liked the Captain Proton episode for some reason. Thought it was one of the better comedic efforts.
It's like people forget his holodeck fantasy is a parody of both the original pre-color sci-fi / horrors and Tom himself.
>>69061123
Exactly. Tom is the unsophisticated history buff who loves adventure and is a little too goofy. Captain Proton is a perfect reflection.
Remember when chakotay scalped Tuvok after a pakra induced psychosis?
>>69059979
Archer at least had good enough reasons.
Sisko, on the other hand, was a raving lunatic when it came to the Maquis and, on a mission of insanity, chased down Eddington and poisoned an entire M-class planet's atmosphere (with people still on it) all over "the uniform".
>>69063208
That episode made Tuvix, giving holotech to the Hirogen, etc. look like saintly acts. Sisko was an absolute madman regarding Eddington
>>69048694
>>>69059979
>Sisko, on the other hand, was a raving lunatic when it came to the Maquis and, on a mission of insanity, chased down Eddington and poisoned an entire M-class planet's atmosphere (with people still on it) all over "the uniform".
Yeah, I'm not really sure who thought that would be in character for a Starfleet officer.
>>69063340
Someone with this facial expression.
>>69062110
Oh yeah, I remember that episode during a fever dream.
Also, your meme is stale.
What kind of filters do you guys use to make /tv/ bearable?
>>69065574
Pretty much the main ones you've got listed, since there are some decent threads here and there other than the massive pile of feces that usually builds up.
>>69065574
>stark
>hulk
>blacked
>tickle
>daughterfu
>joss wheedon
>DCfags
>ironman
Who was the Bothan?
>>69057822
O'Brien would have figured it out.
>>69065574
>Using Futaba
>>69067076
Firing a [x]iton pulse through the main deflector dish solves everything, they should have just done that
>>69067507
see also:
>inverse warp field / bubble
>magneton pulse
>rerouting energy from one system to another
>>69067163
a tasty cream filling
>>69067076
But he would've died in the process and been replaced by himself from the past.
>>69068468
> O'Brien saves the Defiant from being stranded in the gamma quadrant
> bust must stay behind
> tries to get back
> makes his way through the gamma quadrant meeting weird Aliens, being all around badass soldier and engineer and dropping some federation flair here and there
> Bashier griefs for his friend
> one day has enough
> starts to search for O'Brien, doctors his way through the alpha quadrant, first through federation space but it gets ever more rough on the fringes
> Star Trek -Rogue One
>>69058352
They had all these Khazon sects and they could have fleshed them all out differently, but instead "dude they are like all violent space trash lmao"
>>69069354
I fucking like that m8.
>>69069354
>>69069354
So that'd be like a six episode mini-series because O'Brien wouldn't fuck around and would get home in time to see his third pure asian child that is totally his and not one of the Asian members of starfleet?
>>69069986
I saw some brown hair on kirayoshi
>(that's bajoran genes leaking through major kira's steamy vagoo)
Why did they make Voyager about a ship too far away from federation space to get any backup/supplies and then not do anything with it?
>>69070181
Pretty much is m8. The plain and simple though is that those aren't his kids.
>>69070204
because UPN wanted it as their flagship show and executives started meddling
>>69070204
Because it's voyager.
>>69057194
Well, considering the Dominion was just hanging out in the Gamma waiting for the right century to fuck the Alpha Quadrant, the logical thing to do would be to get a crew out to the Delta to see what (aside the Borg) might also want a slice of Federation pie.
The only mistake they made? Sending Voyager. They could have at least given Janeway a competent crew.
>>69070387
>a fucking science ship with a crew of ~5 found a way to get home faster than Voyager
Ransom did nothing wrong
it's an alexander episode...
>>69063340
>Yeah, I'm not really sure who thought that would be in character for a Starfleet officer.
But for an admiral...
>>69070340
This is a very good post.
Voyager is not capitalized (relegating it to just any other object that would take voyages), which is similar to how the producers and writers treated it.
And "Because" of that's what "it's / it is" the cited post's question has all of it's answers in a short, laconic sense because of how much can be written in response to the question.
9/10
Dude prophets lmao
Ayyyyyy
>>69070504
They made Alexander look like a faggot in training in that episode.
That god-damned clown still weirds me out.
>>69072131
Ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
>>69073277
>It's a "old excentric Jewish matriarch acts as a sage and source of wisdom" episode
>>69055026
I always thought they replicated them as a way to destroy the array
>>69074491
Can't replicate torpedoes IIRC
>>69074544
They have unreplicatable components. Probably some part of the anti-matter assembly.
>>69072131
LINEAR FUCKIN SHITS
>>69075449
>>69073599
>>69072131
There's no need to do these shitty bumps when the thread is about to fall off the board. We already have two threads going.
>>69075656
Go fuck yourself.
>>69074544
All they would need to replicate is the tricobalt to enhance some regular torpedoes
>>69075656
>someone else makes a shitty Star Trek thread
>welp guess we gotta abandon the decent one that was made first
