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Now that the dust has settled. Can we agree thatthe first act is disjointed and unengaging, the second act is cartoonish and plastic, and the third one is emotionally sophomoric and the characters' motivations are incongruous?
simply put, yes
Or, we can agree it's the GOAT comic movie.
I thought it was reallyfun
Aunt May is the highlight of the movie
This movie isn't even out yet in america. So Idk what this dust you guys speak of.
idk what most of the words you used mean but i agree
>>69032967
>the second act is cartoonish and plastic
Well, it's capeshit, you need to put some cgi and explosions in it.
>>69033061
>he thinks AoU is good
Yep
>>69033510
>AoU
Are you illiterate?
It's genuinely good, ameribros. The airport scene is literally one of the best things I've ever seen in capeshit.
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>>69033663
You do think AoU is good, so your opinion on CW can be discarded
highlights: based ant-man, spidey, cute wanda and rdjs acting
It had good energy, action, effects and even some funny quips. Maybe nikie lauda had a retarded motivation, but everyone carried the plot in a way you really didn't make sucha deal about it. Miles better than whatever BvS tried to attempt with their deeeep themes for matur 15 year olds.
I thought it was a great comic book movie. It was Age of Ultron done right.
Good-
>All the new characters/crossovers were great
>Less quips than AoU but still fun
>Great action and fight scenes
>Story was good and interesting
>Just a plain fun movie to watch
Bad-
>A few characters were unnecessary (Hawkeye just seemed to be keeping the numbers up)
>Inconsistent character powers (Bucky smashing metal and brick but not breaking bones?)
>Vision got cucked but I suppose he'd be overpowered otherwise
Unironically I'd give it an 8/10
Literally made me want to watch Ant-Man. I'm sorry for doubting the marvel hype.
>>69034466
>projecting
Dcuck
>inb4 bvs is shit
Dcuck
It's a good film, good action, the character motivations are mostly fleshed out, the quips are used well (new Spidey genuinely seems like a nice guy while making quips, Garfield just seemed like a cocky asshole)
However there were a few dialogue heavy scenes that seemed to slow the movie down, some of them seemed to be more suited to TV, there's definitely fat that could be trimmed.
BUT THE FIGHT SCENES THO!
THE JOKES THO!
10/10 GREAT MOVIE!
Why are critics such hacks that don't enjoy art (BvS) anymore?
Fucking 10 years later people will laugh at all you marvelfags and praise Snyder and Nolan
you will see
>>69035122
>going to super hero movies for 'art'
lad
>>69034466
This thread is about Civil War, not AoU
Now that the dust has settled. Can we agree thatwe will never get rid of capeshit and people will keep spamming it on this board forever and ever, til the last day of your life?
>>69035212
Give it a pirate, it's pretty good and the Ant-Man scene at the airport will make you smile.
>>69035122
Ironically the fight scenes are edited terribly, they look just as bad as in those tv spots.
The jokes are bad as usual too.
>>69032967
pretty much but i'd argue for fun instead of cartoonish (which is basically what the movie intends anyways) and that hits emotional beats at all is an accomplishment how many storylines it is juggling, which makes the boring first act easier to forgive
I'm done with this Mickey Mouse-tier soap opera drama. It doesn't help either that all the fight scenes are edited by a teenager with Tourette's and Parkinson's, it's as if they want to distract the audience from how shoddy everything looks by waving a flashlight on their face. I couldn't give a damn about any of these sterile excuses for characters. During the airport scene all the artificially-inflated conflict devolved into a child playing with one toy in each hand and bashing them together.
It's riddled with sophomoric and shallow pseudo-political ponderings that are thrown out the window when the quiptastic action starts. They completely disregard for the umpteenth time the collateral damage while they're having fun showcasing their flashy abilities.
The third act pretends to get serious when in reality it turns into a cheap heartstring manipulation revolving around "why didn't you tell me Cap waaa".
This part completely disregards the fact that Stark knows all too well that brainwashing and mental manipulation is a thing, let's not forget that he has witnessed it firsthand with Banner. There's no excuse for him to have such a sudden change of heart other than to extend the conflict for another 15 minutes of mindless violence, and leave the manchildren with the impression that they've just witnessed an intricate revenge tragedy.
All smoke and mirrors, the constant quipping is an effective tool to cloud a fanboy's mind and judgement.
Finally, what's left is an entire team of "world-class" heroes that got fooled by a man wearing a Bucky mask. Not to mention that the villain's stale trope was better executed 19 years ago when Scream 2 came out, ironically, a film satirizing this cliché.
If you don't think this is cartoonish and laughable you might be too young to post on this site.
Never again.
>ITT: it sucks because Marvel made it
>>69035569
pretty much
but honestly I'll allow this crap if Zemo gets built up well in the following movies
>>69035569
This, I saw it France on Saturday and it sucked how much it was going to overpraised. Still, it's worth seeing once, and definitely better than AoU.
>>69035856
In France, I mean.
>>69035569
>And the "war" was a small handful of people trying to kill each other while throwing out quips as if they're still best friends
Sorry, last time i watched it the only ones quipping were Spidey, ANTS and Hawkeye.
>and no one gets killed where the ending's one giant cop-out to instantly make everyone friends again in spite of trying to kill each other shortly before.
Sorry, but no. Cap is a hero and is willing to help anyone, it's a sense of duty more than "Sorry Tony let's be friends again".
>And they all quietly sweep under the rug that they do the very thing that has all the normal people hate them when they trash the airport. Heaven forbid Vision use his flying speed to cut off Cap and Bucky; let's just do $20 million in damage by taking down a tower instead.
And Ross was angry at Tony because of that in the next scene.
The rest, like the fight scenes or the drama, depends on what do you think.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMdfj62iC_g
>this editing job turned out to actually be in the movie
>every fight scene is edited like this
>the chase scene with Bucky and Panther looks equally as bad as in the teasers too
>people will defend this
>tfw they announce a surprise Secret Avengers movie for next year
>>69036157
Seriously? Will watch the full camrip to know if it's true. I only watched the final fight and it was well handled for me.
>>69036157
Spastic Editing Cinematic Universe crossover when?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCKhktcbfQM
>>69035133
Nolan yes (considering they've already been praising him for the last ten years since Batman Begins), Snyder no.
>>69036224
Yes, and it's seriously exhausting to watch. Not to mention that it devolves into a lumbersome tread from terribly edited action set piece to set piece with exposition and quips in between.
>>69035569
Amen exactly this
>>69036450
*cumbersome
>>69036066
Literally all the heroes quip wtf
>>69032967
>>69032967
The dust hasn't settled. The movie isn't even fucking out yet in NA. Wait until a week after May 6th.
>>69035619
Nah marvel just makes shit films
>inb4 DC makes equally shit films
>>69036552
>you cant dislike a movie without being part of a console war
Grow up and just watch movies for what they are this board is worse than /v/
>>69036532
Nope. Like i said, Ant-Man, Spidey and Hawkeye (to a lesser extend) were the quippers.
NOW,, if we talk about a regular Avengers movie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jh672MyxdwM
So doesCapdie does Thanos get mentioned/hinted at?
>>69036922
No to both
>>69036922
there is literally no universe building
>>69032967
I fell asleep half way through how is this shit so highly rated its boring af
>>69036450
Came back from watching the cam. I had no problem with the airport and the final fight, but the stairway and the base one can give you a headache. It's sad considering they hired the John Wick choreographers but that doesn't excuse bad cinematography.
>>69035569
Wouldn't be surprised if this is the consensus once the blinding hype has died down.
Another thing, the idiotic run into each other part of the fight is still there, and they even had time to throw a Spidey quip there too.
Ant-Man and Spider-Man were both the highlights of this film. The first act was pretty draining with its shaky cam low framerate """action""", but once they started caring, the action was good, especially the airport fight scene.
>>69032967
I see you've started using the thesaurus your mother bought for you.
So what's the payoff,what moves them closer to being united to the space odyssey?
>>69037714
Right now everyone has mixed opinions about it and an awful lot of people think it's not on par with TWS and seems too long and confusing.
I think reading spoiler two months ago worked fine for me desu
>>69038421
The group is broken and they will capture a bunch of heroes until Thanos comes. It's not Space Odyssey anyway.
>>69035050
>i call people DCcuck wven though they hate all comic book movies
This is what your insult has boiled down to, it literally means nothing
Kek
>>69035569
Just because you say something it doesn't mean it's true, Snyder.
>>69032967
like all capeshit movies?
Anyone still have the camrip? I can't find it for some reason
>>69035569
>he put spoilers so that nobody can track down the copypasta
http://archive.4plebs.org/tv/search/text/I%27m%20done%20with%20this%20Mickey%20Mouse-tier%20soap%20opera%20drama./
>>69039579
Did you check out the KAT?
Maybe it's under a false name
>>69038594
>Right now everyone has mixed opinions about it
But that's wrong. Eveyone except /tv/ contrarians think it's good
>and an awful lot of people think it's not on par with TWS and seems too long and confusing.
That's also wrong. If there are mixed opinions about anything, it's the placement next to TWS. Also never heard anyone complain about length or plot confusion. Actually, how about making up your own damn opinions.
>>69038594
>Right now everyone has mixed opinions about it
>>69040186
I've been reading the imdb and comicbook forums plus other media. Opinions tend to clash: some say it's boring, other say Stark motivations made no sense, etc.
>>69040262
>>69040262
>implying people care about critics.
>>69040386
That image shows 100 different people with positive opinions about the movie.
For something to be "mixed", that implies a roughly 50/50 split in opinion.
Unless you can show me 100 negative opinions from 100 individual, separate people, then it's not "split", but overwhelmingly positive.
I really don't think you can.
>>69040386
>critics aren't people
How good is Ant-Man in the movie?
>>69040589
hes only in the stupid airport fight scene and he makes the typical paul rudd tier jokes the whole time
>>69040589
It's an enjoyable movie, pretty funny actually. The sidekicks aren't as annoying as I thought.
>>69040647
Oh wow I totally misread your post, my bad.
Ant-Man's decent. They kind of undersold how much it sucks thathe's back in jail after finally going clean and being a proper parental figure for his daughter.giAnt man easily steals the show in the airport fight scene.
>>69040552
>critics are people
>>69035133
please dont compare based Nolan to Hack snyder
>>69032967
cry more Snyder
>>69040637
But the airport fight was pretty good.
![Captain-America-Civil-War-2-Trailer-I-Could-Do-This-All-Day[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/zZyl0db.jpg "Captain-America-Civil-War-2-Trailer-I-Could-Do-This-All-Day[1].jpg")
>>69041205
>You've got a metal arm! That is awesome dude!
>Audience bursts into laughter.
>Usually during a fight you don't talk that much.
>People clap histerically and wallop on their seats.
>I hate you
>Theatre detonates with clapping and a wave of Cheeto dust engulfs it.
I experienced it first hand.
What people and critics are calling "fun" is severely overrated, it feels as if they found a way for the dialogue itself to have a subliminal laugh track to signal the people when to react, and it actually works in a packed theatre full of manchildren.
I can assure you everything won't seem as hysterical if you watch it by yourself.I can do this all day.
>>69041633
I already watched the movie, the movie is not fun in the sense of ''makes you laugh'' but in the sense that it's entertaining.
>>69041633
Well, what do you expect from a fight that involves Spider-Man?
If this means the Avengers will stop emulating Spidey and become serious business then i'm in.
>>69041633
Exactly, the humor is getting more stale with each iteration of the same jokes. The action was far more interesting in movies almost a decade old like Iron Man.
The charm of the humble beginnings that the first phase had is lost.
Let's put this into perspective. I can assure anyone that spending an evening with your best bros simply kicking the shit will be more fruitful (and you could even come up with better jokes) than watching this corporate consensus-crafted crap made to appeal to everyone and no one. It's astounding how so many people are out of touch.
Easily first place on my " reasons to not waste any money in Marvel's movies " list.
Fighting scenes are pretty cool but only that. In my opinion, this movie is 4.5/10 and the media is doing a glorious job in overeating this fucking piece of cardboard in the middle of a slum.
>>69035569
so it's basically a glib facsimile?
>>69032967
Snyder pls go away
>>69035619
>trivializing the other sides stance
Yep, that's about the only defense you sheep have.
>>69034801
Actually Days of Future Past is Age of Ultron done right.
But Civil War....is like Watchmen done right. Or hell, it is its own thing. It literally is The Dark Knight of the MCU.
>>69035133
8 years later and we still love Iron Man 1.
So fuck off.
Very underwhelming.
I have a feeling X-Men Apocalypse>Civil War
Wished that Daredevil replaced Hawkeye on Team Cap. It would've been cool to see him fight Black Widow and Spider-Man cause Hawkeye felt very useless
>>69035569
Sounds like one of my western animes
>>69036450
Really?
I could keep track of all the action
It's going to be hilarious when this shit flops, amirite?
>>69043485
won't flop
>>69043471
I can keep track too, doesn't mean it is edited well
>>69040338
DCshills.
>>69035569
You wasted 15 dollars so you could shit on this movie.
Admit it sperg.
I only went and watched it for AntMan, he didn't job so badly so I'm satisfied.
However, the movie really is just balls and >>69035569 basically has the right idea.
>>69043328
>assisted in in taking stark off of falcon
>assisted in getting antman to fuck up stark
>assisted in distracting stark so wanda could get the drop on him
>held off black panther in h2h (and even managed to get up close and have his bow to his throad) so that cap and bucky could get to the ship
Yea fuck off dipshit, he was god tier support and helped his team more in that fight than panther, falcon, and widow. id argue he contributed more to his team than that ragdoll warmachine
>daredevil
LOL he would be tied with bucky for the most useless person on his team. getting his ass kicked by everyone he encountered. Wipe the meme off your eyes
mfw this thread is full of edgy dc fanboys
15 dollars? Are movies that expensive in Cuckmerica?
Making the conversion to dollars I spent 4.
>>69044397
meant to respond to
>>69043777
>>69044397
it's around 11$ here in CA
can anyone give me good quality link to movie?
>>69039707
that doesn't make it less true :^)
>>69046432
What's up with newfags not understanding the use of
>:^)
>>69046448:^)
>>69033061
Wrong, it isn't even better than WS
>>69034222
>The airport scene is literally one of the best things I've ever seen in capeshit.
>>69044267
Fuck off idiot
spiderman and black panther's inclusions felt too force in this movie
think about it, if we never knew these characters beforehand, wouldn't their appearance be too sudden, especially without any concrete foreshadowing or reference?
>>69047131
Who cares? It's fucking Spider-Man.
>>69047131
>spiderman and black panther's inclusions felt too force in this movie
At least Spidey was good
>>69035569
tell that to Marvel's culturally bankrupt entertainment
>>69032967
Holy shit those wings.
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
>>69047567
>le quip-man
hella f*ckin epic
>>69047131
Black Panther was set up well.
Spidey was forced, but he seemed good as, basically, mini Tony Stark
>>69032967
>analyzing capeshit
fuck you pleb
>>69050209
if you think that's an analysis you're the pleb
>>69035569
*drops the mic* check this guy out. inb4 marvelfags get prickly about this truth
>mfw this is an Avengers sequel instead of a movie that should focus on CapAmerica
>>69040589
>>69035569
so what you're saying is... Cap is King Arthur cuz he has a shield and Iron Man is jesus cuz he has apostles?
I'm asking because I only watch movies that reference Excalibur now.
>>69051678
>ywn find out Elizabeth is your daughter and then fuck her anyway
>>69034801
>All the new characters/crossovers were great
bullshit. most characters seemed like they're rushed in to keep up with plot progression.
>Great action and fight scenes
you mean like when they clash together like a boy would do with his toys?
>Story was good and interesting
how fucking old are you?
go back to bed, kid.
>>69052042
Stop pretending like you watched the movie, amerifat :)
>>69032967
We can´t agree. In fact, almost everyone thinks otherwise.
>Rotten tomatoes 94%
>Filmaffinity 7,5
>IMBD 8,6
>Metacritic 78
>>69052042
You're a strange and sad little man.
>>69052042
>you mean like when they clash together like a boy would do with his toys?
Sounds more like Man of Steel for me.
>>69035569
Yeah alot of it was quite trite but the main themes where still good if a little jumbled at times.
The 1st and 2nd cap movies where the peak2nd obviously been the peak, first movie was good too
The direction was all over the place in alot of scenes i couldnt tell who was who who was fighting who what was happening?!?!
I thought they would stop doing that after Avengers 2 but Nope we action is a jumbled mess.
I would have much rather this movie was just another Captain America Vs whoever on a smaller scale like the 2nd movie and the 1st obviously.
The Villain was another bond tierHurrr it was all a trick i planned it exactly to go this way it even worked better than i anticipated
Even though /tv/ loves to shit on marvel movies i think movies like The Kingsman Did a WAY better job than this with the actual villain, pacing and alot of other things.
I guess it comes down to the directors and the script.
ausfag 8/10 from me
>>69052584
N-nuh-huh! Man of Steel is deep and suspenseful and you don't get it!
I just came in here to ask one very simple question.
Are capeshit fans the worst possible excuses for nasally half-manchildren?
They fling shit at each other because of some sort of brand loyalty even though DC or Marvel would easily press a button to kill them for a quick dollar if given the chance. You are literally watching the most uninspired genre based off a medium that is meant to peddle multiple issues to small children and chemically unbalanced teenagers. At least if you enjoy these movies, 15 more cookie cutter flicks just like this one will be coming out in the next few years.
>>69052720
Cry more
>>69035619
Fox with the X-Men makes the only good Marvel films. It is known.
>>69032967
Absolutely.
The best part about this mess were the quips and I dont like quips.
>>69032967
Yeah we can agree that, action was okay though, good fights.
And I guess that's it.
>>69032967
Man seeingthe Winter soldier kill Tony's parents was pretty fucked up.
>>69052584
>CW 6 on 6 superheroes in clash limited only within the safe space of an airport field without civilians. with Vision not appearing anywhere during the battle.
>MoS 1 v 1 through the entire city, breaking every building down and into space. fuck ton of people died.
dude have you even seen the movie lol
>>69053198
Don't be silly, it's a movie for little kids.
>>69053300
How is watching Howard Stark get his nose forcibly smashed into his skull for kids? I was honestly surprised they should that, that was some punisher warzone movie level shit.
>>69053349
M-Marvel is for kids and there's no rain or dark-grey CGI buildings getting wrecked!
>>69052720
i liked both dc and marvel till DC started fucking up after Nolans 2nd baneman movie
>>69052115
everyone should start realizing Disney paid off a lot of reviewers to overhype this heap of shit because lets face it, they just want the money of the braindead masses that couldnt give two shit about comic book originality.
>just sayin
>>69053381
Is this some DLC?
>>69032967
Personally, I loved it. I thought it was the best superhero movie.
>>69053349
cause Marvel has what DC doesn'tBalls
Saw it yesterday.
I'm not sure if I liked it, there were some aspects that were great and a lot that was frustrating.
Good
>ant man
>spiderman
>stairwell fight
>zemo
bad
>forced iron man participation
>airport fight (everyone says it's great but it's clunky as fuck, not to mention forced)
>spiderman nerfed
>the dialogue
>it was boring
>quips (Jesus christ I hate this)
>vision being a complete waste of space
>no resolution for half of the avengers
Winter soldier is still the greatest marvel movie civil war was just ok
>>69053563
>spiderman nerfed
To be fair, he's only had his powers for six months.
>>69032967
They're were only 3 or 4 flaws that were substantial. Other than than that you're completely wrong.
>>69053578
He has spider senses no one in avengers should even be able to come close to touching him or overpowering him yet he gets kicked around.
>>69053626
Please elaborate, I find myself agreeing with op
>>69053636
A lot of the time that's just him being a careless fool.
>>69053636
Then I guess he's nerfed in every book or comic because yes people can still hit him even with his spider senses.
I watched Civil War followed by BvS immediately after at my local cinema.
Within 10 minutes of watching Civil War, I started to feel physically ill. My body forced up the popcorn I just started to eat and I threw up right in front of my seat. Shortly after that, my eyes began to bleed and I got a tinnitus from the horrible acting engaged in this movie. Five minutes later I slowly but surely started to die. My body decided that the sweet embrace of death was better than this "flick", if you can even call it that. However, my mind still having a minuscule piece of sanity left, forced my body to leave the room immediately.
Right after I found myself in a BvS showing, my body still mortally wounded but my mind being focused on watching these two movies for the love of art. All those existential themes, the metaphors about resurrection and the deep and involving conflict of two contradicting philosophies healed my mind and then my body. I was able to leave the cinema two hours after feeling like a young God.
I will rewatch BvS again today in hopes to heal my cold, while I also sent a letter to POTUS to show Civil War as a torture device to Guantanamo prisoners.
>>69032967
But the dust hasn't settled yet
Why do you people elevate these movies above blockbuster popcorn flick status.
Everyone who goes into these movie expects mindless entertainment and action set pieces and in the case of Civil War, it was good for that.
Stop treating these shit movies as if they're supposed to be held to a much higher standard that the movie itself isn't even aiming for.
>>69035569
Hey friend! Thanks for the paragraph? Do you mind if I post it somewhere else?
>>69053671
I guess, but expected more from spiderman. I didn't like that cap was overpowering him
>>69053688
That's just stupid
>>69053719
/tv/ is a young demo
They honestly believe capefilms are high cinema.
Anyone got that edit of them running at each other with Strange jumping shopped in?
>>69032967
Remember when the writers said that spider-man was integral to the plot? That he'd have an arc? That if they took him out they would have to scrap their whole script?
I loved the movie, don't get me wrong, but what the fuck?
>>69054085
>Remember when the writers said that spider-man was integral to the plot? That he'd have an arc? That if they took him out they would have to scrap their whole script?
No, when was that?
>>69032967
best part was the airport scene with them just fighting each other and with silly comedy/catchphrases. this is what those movies are suppose to be
why putting terrorists attacks on a pop corn movie? so tired of the dark themes all the time in the superhero movies
>>69054157
B-but if it's not dark then mature and intelligent people can't watch it and discuss it at the super secret elite association club!
>>69053719
Because fuck lowering the bar just because something is a different genre. It's like when people say you can't critique Pixar films becuase 'they're for children' - all it does it give shitty filmmakers an excuse to not think about what they make.
>>69032967
is it worth checking in theaters? Age of Ultron was such a shitfest.
>>69054976
I would say it is, but you probably will not like it since you're so negative.
>>69053396
>I only have the truth
>If some people say that they liked the movie is because they have been paid off
>>69054976
Sure, if you don't have any expectations and enjoy a solid popcorn eater film
>>69054976
It's better than age of ultron but not as good as winter soldier
>>69054987
Are implying aou was good lol
>>69055066
I didn't have any expectations for ant man and I genuinely like it. Hope it will be the same for this one.
>>69032967
Or we can agree that the first act starts with great rythm, the second act is literally a comic in action and the last act is one of the most emotional moments in the MCU
I mean its not bad, but if this is what people consider "good" capeshit then the future of capeshit is not very bright
Captain America: "You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain." I can do those things, because I'm not a hero. I don't deserve this shield.
Iron Man: No, you can't! You're not!
Cap: I'm whatever the Accords needs me to be. Call it in.
Tony: They'll hunt you.
Cap: You'll hunt me. You'll condemn me, set the dogs on me, because it's what needs to happen. Because sometimes the truth isn't good enough, sometimes people deserve more.. Sometimes people deserve to have their faith rewarded.
Peter Parker: Cap? Cap! Why is he running, Mr. Stark?
Tony: Because we have to chase him.
Parker: He didn't do anything wrong.
Tony: Because, he's the hero the Avengers deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So, we'll hunt him, because he can take it. Because he's not our hero. He's a proud patriot. A watchful protector. The First Avenger.
>>69055618
Yeah, I mean, making movies people like its just awful, you know?
>>69042812
>It's astounding how so many people are out of touch.
If the vast majority of people enjoy it and you don't, doesn't that make you the one who is out of touch?
>>69056621
Nuh-huh, it's everyone else who is a poopy head!
How large is Antman's role in the movie? I really like Antman.
>>69047131
Spider-man maybe, they'd just need a few extra lines to explain his powers and why he fights.
Black Panther no, The movie shows why Wakandans support the accord, establishes that the "panther" is a tradition in their society, and gives BP a motive for joining Stark.
nah, enjoyed it whole through. Really well-balanced movie, pretty consistent storyline throughout. it can be pretty serious and really fun at the same time, which I really loved.
The action was incredible, there are grounded fight scenes with raw choreography, bigger scale action in airport when all sides clashing with each other, which is really fun to watch, and the ending with brutal fight scenes with a lot of emotional punch.
There are a lot of great character moments, almost everyone has clear motivation that really lined up with the themes that going on. Even though Ant-Man and Spidey were just a muscle addition, the crew really did a great job making them as the highlight with their appearance.
The humour was pretty balanced, there are no force humour like "language" or horrible quip came out out from everyone just like in AoU. Everyone stays in character and aware with the situation.
>>69052720
It's worse than that. It presents caricatures of the characters, devoid of any of the depth and exploration that they've enjoyed over decades of comics appearances. They're stripped of their souls and marched out to be consumed by the masses as they announce their motivations and justify the whims of the writers through glib, superficial dialogue that, while occasionally witty, is utterly lacking in anything that remotely resembles consistent treatment.
These might make for entertaining films, but don't for a moment pretend that looking like the comics characters is the same thing as faithfully portraying the comics characters.That train went off the tracks years ago.
>>69056659Only in the airport (15mins). But he, and Spiderman, steal the scene
>>69056659
It's kinda big, if you catch my drift. But not really.
>>69040723
but cap broke them all out at the end of the film?
Ant-man is a fugitive sure, but not in prison at the end
>>69035122
still mad?
>>69056659
It's giant
>>69056745
>help Cap because wow, he's cool!
>can never, ever meet daughter again
Great going, Scott.
>>69056792
I am disappointed there isn't something more to the story. When the airport scene leaked, I thought it was weird that Scott risked tearing himself in half with his Giant trick just so Bucky and Cap could escape in a jet with him being captured and put in jail a definite outcome when his solo movie was all about how he wanted to go clean and be able to be in his daughter's life.
Being on the wrong side of the law, getting SHIELD on your ass, seems like the absolute worst way to stay in your daughter's life.
>>69054437
This.
>>69035569
Retarded autist.
Why are they called the Avengers when they're never actually, you know, avenging shit?
>>69035619
That is how it works. Marvel can by definition only make shitty movies.
>>69056996
This is a legitimate question.
Spoilers pls
>>69057177
Well sir,Bucky killed Tony's parents And Steve doesn't care
>>69057201
who dies from the main cast ?
First Avenger > Winter Soldier > Avengers > Age of Ultron > Civil War
>>69057020
No it isn't.
They form as The Avengers in The Avengers to avenge Coulson.
>>69057222Nobody. Not even the main villain.
It was pretty good, better than most garbage these days.
>>69057257
But was that the fact in the original comics?
>>69057380
Nope.It never made sense there, either.
>>69056792
>He won´t be able to meet her daughter despite the fact that he can shrink to the size of an ant and sneak everywhere
>>69057402
Then it IS a legitimate question.
>>69057257
But since he's not dead, shouldn't they maybe consider a name change?
I can agree they butchered Zemos. It doesnt even have the hood, his background, anything. But its right because Marvel did it! If not we would hear complains about Not Muh...
This is a filler movie with no consequences. They are at the same place they ended in AoU. 2 teams in separated ways.
I seriously hope there is a 4th Cap movie because this one was a let down.
>69033061
No we cant. Its better than AoU, which was terrible. But worse than TWS by a lot.
>>69043221
>But Civil War....is like Watchmen done right.
I hope this is bait.
>>69047131
They do a good job with Black Panther. SM is literally a 10 minutes trailer for his movie. 80% of its time SM is a cgi doll anyways.
>>69057465
>Muh family
>Muh ruses, costumes and make-ups
>Muh hate-boner for Cap
>Muh "Fuck Hydra"
It looks Zemo to me
>>69057523
B-but there's no purple mask so it's not!
>>69035569
Very well put. Watching movies like this is like eating cardboard at this point.
So who died in it?
Or did Marvel not do anything interesting like killing off a lame superhero?
>>69053563
>Zemo
Literally a random guy with the Zemo name attached to him
>stairwell fight
Yes, this one was better than the airport one. I cant believe Vision did nothing for like 10 minutes because it was clear they couldnt balance him.
Id like to add that Tony was more developed than Cap who doesnt get an arc or character development. He starts as muh bucky and ends as muh bucky.
>>69057547
Thats usually the biggest complain on any non MCU movie. Looks like some people really have double standards.
>>69035569
I agree but this has always been how movies are, non of them have gotten anything right.
So can we agree 2016 is a shit year for comic books sequels?
>CW was supposed to improve on TWS
>BvS was supposed to improve on MoS
Not one lived up to the hype and arguably were worse than their predecessors.
I have no faith in the Reddit Squad. If Singer doesnt deliver, thats it. 2016 is literally the worst year for capes. Im not hyping anything ever again.
>>69057722
Deadpool was great, Doctor Strange is going to be good.
>>69057786
Oh Doc Strange is this year too. I guess there is hope.
I didnt like Deadpool. Its a terrible comedy and a bad revenge flick.
I missed (or have forgotten) any discussion around the first Avengers movie. Did anyone else think Tony being immune to the effects of Loki's scepter(in other words, the Mind Gem) was just stupid as hell?
>>69057810
Is your body ready?
>>69057864
No, because it had a penis joke on it. So everything is for forgotten
4theplebs
So who are the most effective characters in the airport scene on each side? Who kicks the most ass, who's the most useless?
>>69035569
Awful analysis again no one seems to bring up the actual flaws with the movie. 4chan's been fucked by a simpleton movie.
>>69058219
I haven't seen it yet. Share some. Spoiler if you think appropriate. The movies can't be spoiled for me.
>>69058283
There is literally nothing to spoil. The movie is just the trailers. Everything is there. No big surprises. No consequences. No incredible revelations. You can even take out Spider-man and it wouldnt change the plot of the movie at all. I assume you watched the trailer in which he steals the shield, right? Well, they get it back 10 seconds later. Thats all he did during the whole movie. Then he exchanged some punches with Falcon, Cap and Bucky but nothing game changing.
>>69058549
sounds like BvS
>>69058219
No stakes, no consequences other than 1 secondary character frozen again until they need it for the next movie.
They retcon the separation from AoU just to separate the group again here.
Trailers spoiled the whole movie.
Bad third act.
Since no one was fighting to kill in the airport scene other than BP it felt like it was a training session with no stakes.
SM sense works sometimes, sometimes doesnt when the plot demands it.
The airport scene could have been stopped with just a "he was mind controller, there is another villain, help me tony".
Vision doesnt do shit during the airport scene because reasons.
It looks like a cheap tv show. Cinematography is crap. CG is crap too. They even left Tony's flying head in the final cut.
Cap is not developed other than muh bucky. Bucky is a living mcguffin. Tony gets more development in a fucking Captain America movie.
I could keep going on.
The movie will do almost infinite amounts of money since all the elements from the marvel formula are there to ensure high profits. Quips, simple plot plus Spider-man. It will break every fucking record ever. They got lucky Sony allowed SM, because there are no high points in the movie other than his extended cameo.
>>69058600
It is. SM reminded me of WW.
>>69032967
This is the first super hero movie where I really felt the fatigue. That airport fight scene was fucking awkward as shit, especially in comparison to the one in the bunker.
Also, I kind of wish they left Spider-Man out of the movie because he felt ham-fisted as fuck.
>that scene where Bucky is lying next to Falcon says "I hate you"
>>69058746
I won't argue that the other points aren't more/less true, but why do people say that there was no consequences in the movie? A good chunk of the team is in jail, Captain America and several others are fugitives, the accords are in full effect, and War Machine has a permanent spinal injury. How are these not stakes? How are these not consequences?
It's fine if people wanna criticize the movie, because frankly there's a decent amount of things to criticize, but to say that there aren't any consequences in the movie is just absolute nonsense.
>>69058916
They were already separated in AoU. By next avengers movie everyone will be out of jail. Cap will be pardoned and War machine will use some tech to walk again. hell, he was already walking by the end of the movie.
>>69059049
This is one of the problems I have with the MCU. For a franchise that prides itself with continuity and setting up for other films, it usually doesn't feel like much actually matters in the long run.
>>69058916
no mate we hate everything about every movie and even if it makes over a billion dollars and gets 90% fresh ratings and it 'seems' like regular people like it they dont theyre shills millions of shills
fuck movies in general theyre all terrible except movies that are safe to like, like the godfather, except fuck those too because theyre safe.
>>69032967
we can agree that capeshit is cancer and it should be purged from Hollywood.
Why is aunt May so hot? What's the message here?
so spoil this for me, who dies? what's the point of all of this fighting? because the government wants to arrest bucky? why doesn't cap just negotiate some sort of plea deal for him? he's got to have some kind of pull.
>>69053719
Because everything should be held to a high standard. That's how criticism works, dummy
>>69056828
He wanted to "be the hero your daughter already thinks you are"
>>69056996
In the comics, it's literally because they think the name sounds cool and dramatic
That's all the reason they ever giveand personally I love it
>>69058132
Ant man is super useful especially when he goes big, hawkeye is fucking based when it comes to being a support player
I'd place Wanda and spidey directly below ants and arrows in terms of how useful they are. I never felt like they did nearly as much in the battle, but they both definitely kicked ass when they were used
Most useless is Bucky, probably alongside Panther and widow
>>69058746
Spidey sense not working when plot doesn't want it to work has literally always been a thing ever.
>>69059434
No one.
Introducing SM as an extended cameo. And BP.
Yes.
Because reasons. He kinda does at certain point, but they activate Bucky Satsui no hado with some magic words. Still retarded.
>>69059183
Can we agree that movies are cancer and should be purged from Hollywood?
>>69059731
it's kind of amazing that disney / marvel get people so invested in these 2-1/2 / 3 hour movies that don't go anywhere. It's almost like Linklater hang out movies with shittier characters and less weed.
>>69059324
Fuck your aunt. That's the message
>>69059685
>Ant man is super useful especially when he goes big
No its not. He was just a mere distraction because "lol wtf you are supposed to be the tiny one". But he gets his ass kicked literally by everyone. Everyone could have soloed him other than Black Widow.
Spider-man didnt do shit in the battle.
Wanda at least stopped BP from killing Bucky, the plot would have turned extremely different if he had killed him.
Vision is the most useless.
>>69059510
This is phrased wrong and even when it's phrased right it's stupid, but nonetheless that's Scott's motivation
>>69059776
TWS (and to certain extent GotG) was a good movie because it tried actively to avoid the tired marvel formula. This one is just another one straight from the flick machine.
I remember some people on damage control with Ultron saying the movie wasnt filler because it divided the team and it had consequences, and at the beginning of this movie everyone was there like the schism never happened.
Its like they dont even care. how the fuck can you ruin the continuity with so few products? It should be very easy to sinergize them unlike comic books with 50 books per month, events flash forwards, time travel, etc
>>69059799
First of all, they weren't distracted because they were surprised, they were distracted because a giant was fucking attacking them. They needed a bunch of guys to take him down. Secondly, ant man is useful before then when he's able to disable the iron man suit and when he helps to free cap, not to mention he almost beats widow.
I never said spidey did much, but when he was fighting he kicked ass, they did a good job to show just how powerful he is, especially when you consider he's only had the powers for a few months. Either way, spidey was instrumental in taking down giant man. Wanda played good defense, but spidey played good offense. I still think Bucky was most useless, but you're right, it very well may be vision. I was supremely disappointed by that and by how useless they made WM
>>69059920
>>69059920
>when he's able to disable the iron man suit
Then Iron Man keeps fighting like nothing happened, how useful.
>They needed a bunch of guys to take him down
Not really, Iron-man could have one shotted him with a big ass beam. Vision could one shotted him. And Spider-man could have trapped him like he did then punch him in the face a few times. A rocket from War Machine would have also btfo him like a bullet to a regular human.
Frankly the only one who could have not defeated him was widow.
>>69058908
I kekked heartily at that scene
>you got heart kid, where you from ?
>Queens
>*smiles* Brooklyn
Liked that bit.
Holy Shit guys!!! I hate this movie!!! Am I contrarian enough??
Pls tell me... D-do I fit in yet?
>>69038664
Hush dcuck and lament on your impotence
