Who do you hate more?
>>69032858
Myself
>>69032858
Myself
>>69032904
First post, best post.
>>69032858
why would you hate the high sparrow, he cares about the poor and misfortunate
>>69032858
The show after season 4
I don't get it, why don't they just send a cohort to kill the Sparrow and his followers.
Neither. The show isn't good enough to inspire hate in a character, you poor little pleb.
>hating the High Sparrow
Set aside your edgyism for a minute to notice he's leading an army of righteous commoners to screw over a cabal of debauched noblemen who are aristocratic in name only.
>>69032946
He's a fucking demagogue.
Ramsay is still far worse, make no mistake, but demagogues are a special kind of opportunistic scum.
Ollie.
>>69032858
Ramsay did nothing wrong
>>69032986
>t. berniebro
>>69032858
Right. But I presume both get what they deserve.
>>69032968
Just be patient.
Robert Strong is going to clean house in the Sept of Baelor.
>>69032986
Nah, he's just a king who traded his crown for bare feet to trick the retards into thinking he's on them.
>>69032858
Me on the left
>>69032858
>>69032858
I hate everyone with the same passion
>>69032858
your mom for not considering an abortion
>>69032858
*Whom
why didn't they just kill the Priest and the members of this new cult while it was still small?
>>69033178
6/10 bait, you're going to get responses
>>69033213
almost got me t b h
>>69032858
Price is doing a great job playing the high sparrow, despite the shitty writing.
Can't say the same for the cartoon character of Ramsay Bolton though...
>>69032994
Demagogues aren't necessarily a bad thing, especially within a political system which allows no form of democracy.
>>69032858
>>69032994
He might be an opportunist but hobo pope is an actual believer, I think.
I'm pretty sure he honestly, truly believes.
>>69032858
>hating based Ramsay
He's the absolute madman, the rightful king of the north and has 20 good men by his side. How can you hate him?
>>69032858
>hating on ramsay the rabbi
He's the most interesting character right now.
Can you retards only tolerate the handsome faggy white knight cliche?
>>69032858
Neither.
Ramsay is sick sure, but he is entertaining at least.
Sparrow isn't really wrong. Cersei gives him enough power to kidnap Queen Margaery. Gets caught in her own trap. Lannister's murder babies all over town, start wars, etc. etc. etc. assuming their name gives them freedom to act like cunts. Shocked when she gets tossed into a cell.
>>69033213
lol what? i am serious. Tell me
>>69032946
because I am trump 2016 not a bernie fag on reddit.
Why would you hate high sparow?
Only reason to hate him is because you are scarred irresposoble person who knows that they will be punished for imoral and sinful things. Ther eis not another reason to hate him.
>>69032858
Only millenials faggots would hate based Ramsay.
>>69033449
DUDE AUTHORITARIANISM LMAO
>>69033465
Ramsay will only prove to be based if he flays fatlegs
What happened to her?
D$D
>>69033507
fast food most likely.
>>69033499
D&D won't show it, the same happened with him and his 20 good men.
D&D can't handle the truth.BASED
>>69033477
thats right my fellow gentleman!
Ramsay is fucking awesome. The High Sparrow is a crazy motherfucker.
>>69032985
So true. I hate the writers.
>>69033366
most disappointing nude scene in history. Nasty tits.
>>69033477
Dude legalise what makes my peepee feel gut oh hohohoho oh..... I like to put branches in my ass if tickels look chilldren... and i like to fucke me sister... :DD kek what you have something against it??!? oh noo you judge me because i like to fuck bodies of children... oh nuuuu :D:D:D:. I'll have you know that there is nothing wrong with me shitlord :DD:D:D:D: God cant judge me :D:D::D:D there is not one XD stupid belieffags keckie. My peepe is most sacred thing...
>>69033567
But why? She's not a burger
>>69032904
Nailed it. Thread over before it began.
Sparrow did nothing wrong, especially in the books.
>Looks a Lannister in the eye and says, "But who are we?"
High Sparrow is fucking based. I don't like how he's dealing with Smirkfu but other than that the dude's great.
Ramsay's just a piece of shit, both as a person and as a character.
>>69033645
doesn't mean she didn't suddenly get into the micky d's.
Ramsay is an edgy psycho but he's fun.
High Sparrow is based as fuck.
I am serious, why did they not kill off the cult while it was still small? Why did they let that shit slide? Of course a new religions group in the town is gonna be a problem.
should't that be 'WHOM do you hate more'??
>>69032968
High Sparrow has the support of the people. They can't afford another riot.
Yet.
>>69032994
>He's a fucking demagogue waaahhh
I bet you're voting for Bernie you stupid cuck
For me it’s Ramsay – intelligent, nihilistic and with a wicked sense of humor.
>>69033507
source?
>>69033706
Cersei was trying to get them on her side. It was the entire King's Landing plot for like a full season, and obviously she didn't think it through because she's Cersei.
>>69032986
>trading one ruler for another
Yeah nah
>hating the based as fuck Sparrow
Literally the hero we need. Make Westeros Great Again
>>69032858
Why are they still so desperate to make Ramsay look bad?
We get it. He's a psycho. He cut a guy's dick off and tortured him and broke his mind. He hunted young girls for sport. Etc. etc. etc.
We didn't need babymurder to realise he's a bad guy.
>>69032858
I used to hate High Sparrow, but then I stopped being edgy.
>>69032858
the filthy unwashed self righteous religious peon
>le epic invincible cartoon villain Twenty Goodmen
>High Sparrow Bernie #resistcapitalism
What a shit show.
>>69033808
They're not trying to make you realize he is evil. They find him entertaining and hope the audience will as well.
>>69033706
It isn't a cult. They are zealot followers of the Faith of the Seven. They got rid of the old leader of the faith, who is basically the Pope, and put the High Sparrow in his place. Why do you think they are in the fucking Sept of Baelor? When there is a new King there is a coronation ceremony by the leader of the Faith.
In real life our Pope wasn't even a vassal state except for the last few hundred years.
>>69033826
And what if he enforced morality and justice whiteout religious ideas behind it? What is he then a Judge or a Lawyer?
>>69032858
Both are legit, the sandsnakes on the other hand
>>69033899
bad pussay
>>69033637
if it was the real tits it would probably be much worse
>>69033644
>>69033899
who /snek/ here?
The High Sparrow is fucking awesome, but DnD are trying to make them out to be ISIS when in fact they have the support of basically every commoner from the Neck to Kings Landing
>>69033644
wow
Ramsay is worse because he gave the master Rooseman such a shitty death
>>69033088
>>69032994
>>69033781
better than having incestous retards as king at least this one is smart
>>69033887
>And what if he enforced morality and justice whiteout religious ideas behind it?
Except he doesn't. He kills or imprisons people for having sex outside of marriage or with members of their own sex. There's nothing just about that. He's just a retarded fanatic who judges people without any regards to justice and preys on the weak. Not to mention that the commoners he likes so much have probably done much worse crimes. He just hates the royalty because their lives don't suck as much as his. You can talk about degeneracy all day, but in the end the fact is that he views people like us as complete sinners worthy of imprisonment or death. And he looks like he smells like shit.
He better start praying.
>hating class warfare
kill the Lannister bourgeoisie
I hate Sparrow more, he's a fundamentalist nut who'll send the empire back to the stone age on his warped view of faith.
Ramsey is just a good old ruthless leader. Whenever ive played total war, it was always awesome having a guy like him in position of power.
Ramsay is far worst. I love the High Sparrow though in the show, he does one or two stupid or annoying shits. Last episode for example was kinda crap. Great actor.
Hell, Ramsay's actor is great too but I hate the character
I miss Joffrey
>>69033808
They're trying to recapture the magic of Joffrey.
But they're failing to understand that what made Joffrey such a well-loved character was escalation. He started as a petulant mommy's boy with dreams of being a great king, then turned into an asshole king who kept pushing things further and further until he was fully developed as a complete and utter raving lunatic. He went from, "We must crush our enemies like father did! R-right mommy?" to murdering hookers for fun. That's what made his scenes so enjoyable, there was a steady progression.
They're trying to emulate that by showing Ramsay being an evil bastard but he already started out as a complete and utter raving psychocunt so rather than it being a thrilling descent into madness it's just another boring scene where Ramsay acts like Ramsay again.
>>69034036
YOURE A CHRISTIAN WHITE MALE
>>69034121
but what is his stance on wildling refugees and illegal immigrants from dorne?
>>69034140
Also Joffrey was incredibly flawed.
>indecisive
>cowardly
>petulant
Ramsay is perfect in almost everything he does. The only redeeming trait to his character was how terrified of Roose he was
>oops
>>69034217
clearly he is a mary sue for d&d
The High Sparrow is actually right about everything. The nobility is corrupted, the people need to be protected, and if the warrior caste is not fit for that job, then the people will do it themselves.
>>69032858
can someone explain how sparrows got into power? I completely forgot how they were allowed.
last thing i remember the wedding happened and then they appeared
>>69032858
this little shit.
Ramsay easily. I don't even hate Sparrow.
>>69034310
>yfw Jon punts him off the fucking wall
>>69034273
>The High Sparrow is actually right about everything.
So if you have sex outside of marriage you deserve to be imprisoned?
Guess I should have expected this from a bunch of virgins.
Right, I bet he stops scientific progress just like the church did. I've always joked with my thronebros that even in Westeros I'd be an athiest innovator.
Though I do like the fact he looks like Bernie
>>69034112
this
>>69033507
gaaaat dayum son.
>>69033637
CGI'd her head on some other body. You watch GoT on a fucking 12" sdtv?
>also check em
>>69034282
The old religious leaders were corrupt who whored and shit. So people got behind the more orthodox and poor figure they had.
They got more power in King's Landing because Cersei is retarded, she let them have a milita and they blessed Tommen or some shit.
>>69034363
Pretty much every innovator up to the mid 20th century was religious, and in some cases religious fanatics, you stupid fuck.
>>69032858
the hypocritical zealot that just uses religion to get power and permission to do atrocities.
Ramsay is just a bland evil cunt, the HS has this untouchable position and that force of influence
>>69034282
The Faith Militant was something that existed a long time ago. One Targ king pissed off the Faith so they rebelled, then the next Targ king basically spent his entire rule fucking their shit up, then the next Targ king made a peace agreement which involved them disbanding.
Cersei actively encouraged them to make a new Faith Militant because she believed she could use them to help control the city and win over the commoners after they turned on her repeatedly, and it didn't work because Cersei is a dumb cunt.
>>69032985
nailed it boi
>>69032858
Ramsey but I want to hatefuck him in his perfect bubble butt so I guess it's not too bad
>>69034459
Cersei thought she had a new ally and/or could manipulate them, and they absolved the Crown's debt to them in return for allowing them to reform the Faith Militant. In the book Cersei is literally thinking about how she is Tywin with tit and she is so smart, and then she gets imprisoned by the people she just armed.
>>69034356
>He thinks that's why Margaery is imprisoned
You think he should do a Cat and release his only advantage? Because that worked out so well for the North, right?
>>69033507
It's not Emilia Clarke, just some random chunky bitch.
>>69033413
Cersei empowered them remember, they weren't killed because Cersei wanted them to take over
>>69034140
>but he already started out as a complete and utter raving psychocunt so rather than it being a thrilling descent into madness
I kind of hoped Ramsey would go the opposite way somewhat
After killing Roose he was still in a solid position. He was still promised to be heir as long as he finds Sansa, even if he'd get a brother. He clearly has the support of the Karstarks for whatever reason. He didn't need to do shit.
They could've let him have SOME humanity in him rather than make him comic-book tier.
>>69034538
>You think he should do a Cat and release his only advantage?
So now it's about advantages? nothing about justice, morals, the people?
Gee, who'd have guessed.
Hypocritical cunts.
>>69034363
The Church has funded technological advancement for hundreds of years. Besides, elements are fundamentally different in-universe, and technology is unable to advance past a certain point.
>>69034112
Edgy. He have devouted his whole life for the common people, that makes him dirty commie, he have devouted his whole life to the god(gods in this case), which makes him bigoted religious fundamentalist like ISIS. Right?!?
Wrong he there to help people atleast follow the path to normality. All you are saying is "What makes me feel good, shoud be legal". Yes gay's fuck but he is there to help them have normal life, to teach them self sacrifice and apatheia. He just wan't them to have normal life. He knows they are will be judged and he want's to help them control their passions for greater good of humankind, with or witheout god(in this case his beliefs lies with god('s)).
You are prejudgding him base on his look. He chould look noble, but he knows most of his followers have even less that he had before he bacame septon. There is nothing wrong with high sparrow, it is you who fear that he will condemn your irresponsibilities. He is neither a commie just a man who gives charity, he is neither a fundamentalist, just a realist who helps followers of his faith have meaningfull life, he gives purpose to poor souls that whoud otherwise kill themselves. He is a hero we don't deserve, but a hero we need.
>>69034363
>it's an "fedora is ignorant to history" episode
People like you are the reason I hate calling myself an atheist.
>>69034356
>>69034538
I forget, did Margaery actually cuck based Tommen or is it just a lie by Cersei/the Faith?
>>69034598
Oh it is about justice, morals, and the people Anon, definitely. But war is war. There's no way to save the people peacefully. Ned tried that with the Lannisters.
>>69034538
They're turning Marg into a zealot so they have direct control over the king. I bet they'll just release her without the nude walk.
>>69034538
>his only advantage
If that was his only advantage then why isn't Tommen just barging in and rapemurdering them all like he wants to badly?
The actual advantage he has is that he literally has like 90% of the city's people backing him.
>>69034356
a setting where gods are actually definitively literally real
>their holy text says it is a sin
>the leader of the faith says people shouldnt do it
where is the confusion?
also, doesnt he let people go if they repent?
whats wrong with that?
>>69034742
>>69034742
>If that was his only advantage then why isn't Tommen just barging in and rapemurdering them all like he wants to badly?
Because Tommen's a pussy. But also because if he pulled that shit he's Margaery in direct danger of, you know, being killed.
90% of the city's population wouldn't stand up to heavily armoured knights showering arrows at them from the walls of the Red Keep. But I see your point, advantage was the wrong word.
She's his only bargaining chip.
>>69034921
We know two gods to be real, and neither of them stand amongst the Seven.
Well, one of them sort of stands amongst the Seven, but he ain't the nigger crying about morals and degeneracy he just wants the body count up.
I'm really confused reading this thread, so are supporters of High Sparrow Bernie cucks or edgy Trumpites?
>>69034637
>muh edgy
The only edgy one here is you, who thinks it's so awesome and manly to arrest le degenerate homos and fornicators. And he obviously doesn't give a shit about helping them, he just wants to humiliate them.
>>69034680
Wasn't she imprisoned for saying her brother wasn't gay
>>69034921
There is absolutely no proof that the Seven are real. The Old Gods are basically the Children of the Forest and Greenseers, and no one really knows what the fuck is up with R'hllor. If anything, this multiplicity of gods shows that there isn't any "one true faith" or universal religious morals.
>also, doesnt he let people go if they repent?
No, he lets people go after he humiliated them completely. He knows Cersei hasn't repented, but he's satisfied with humiliating her in public.
>>69034620
church has funded technological advancement
what.
designing a new bottle for Holy Water isn't funding technology.
>>69032858
you
High Sparrow is worse, hiding behind the gods.
>>69035068
hes not really comparable to either
Westeros is not a democracy
Hes already been "elected"
Hes a fanatical religious leader
Communism does not exsist in westeros
Caring about poor people does not make you a berniecuck
He doesnt want to overthrow the Royal class
>>69032858
The Sparrow is fucking great
Ramsay however is incredibly over done and has had too much screen time just being OH SO CRRAAAAAYYYYZZZYYY!
Ramsay vs The Sparrow highlights the time you should be giving 1 dimensional antagonists who do not have much to them
>>69035315
But then how am I supposed to relate this piece of fiction to my prescribed opinions from my emotionally charged political beliefs?
Are 50% of this thread shills trying to find out /tv/'s religious views or are you actually that autistic?
>>69033110
This
>>69032904
>>69035415
just post Ben Garrison™ comics and talk about The God Emperor™ whenever you can even if it's blatantly off-topic, that's how the cool kids do it
>>69033110
Best post.
>>69034121
>empire
lolwut
Its a kingdom you retard. There are no emperors in GoT, that was just a stupid line.
>>69035663
>tl:dr : We humans focus too much on what makes us feel good, not on leaving something after us.(art,science,sport records,monuments...).
No-one on 4chan can make this argument with a straight face.
And also it all returns to dust eventually so who cares if some kid fifty years from know thinks I was really cool at throwing an egg-shaped ball?
>>69035773
Valyria was an empire, the Ghiscari had an empire and Yi Ti is till and empire. The concept of empires definietly exist in asoiaf. Besides, the Iron Throne is basically the seat of the king of kings, since it is composed of seven kingdoms (even though they use the title lord paramount and not king nowadays. It's basically an "empire tier title" in ck2 terms, since kingdoms are vassals to it.
>>69032858
Sparrow. At least Ramsey is openly a sociopath. The "High Sparrow" is just using his zealots to play the game.
>>69032946
>why would you hate the high sparrow, he cares about the poor and misfortunate
As a vehicle to overthrow the government. He's like a medieval Hitler who looks like Bernie Sanders.
>>69032858
Ramsay is a shit character
The sparrow at least wants some more equality
>>69035076
>He thinks short term
>He thinks pleasure is only thing meaningful in life
Seriously?
It's not like someone from the poor chould not try something new and meaningful in life. Before septons help they would be begars, after they chould be musicians, fighters, priests, farmers, labourers, maesters, etc.... It's not like he isn't objectively helping people. This is not capitalist society where if you work you earn. This is feudalism where if you are born noble and rich then "nice", if you are born poor then tough luck pal.
>muh gays
Yes gay fuck so what? Is it you only argument?
He is humiliating muh gays... *snif* *snief*...
So you are saying that gays should not be helped to be able to procreate? To have families? What if gay person want children but he can't get them? Shoud he not be able to get help? Shoud he be encauraged to forget idea of family?
Only argument you posted is gay rights, Judging by that concern you must be gay or bi. So don't worry. Like they say, you chould fuck males but you should not brag about that, and not base you personality around your sexuality. If you do that you will be safe. Just remmember you are free to do as you will in life, but you are not free of consequences. It is not fault of parents that they are dissapointed that in their son(or daughter) is gay, it is natural opinion.
tl:dr : We humans focus too much on what makes us feel good, not on leaving something after us.(art,science,sport records,monuments...).
>>69032946
>he cares about the poor and UNfortunate
ftfy
Also, I personally just hate the religious zealots in any show. I mean how can these faggots worship the 7 when there is literally all the physical evidence in the world to show that the many faced god is the one true god.
>>69033953
I would fuckin' destroy that punanni.
Sparrow by far
>>69035964
Holy shit you're so fucking retarded. Using "muh" doesn't invalidate an argument. I'm not gay and I don't care much about them, it's simply an example of how the High Sparrow is a fanatic who doesn't care about justice, only about religious morals.
>So you are saying that gays should not be helped to be able to procreate? To have families?
Yes, they should not be helped. No, I'm not gay, and no one in the show bragged about fucking guys, they actually kept it secret for exactly this purpose. I also used the fornication clause as an example.
By the way, I assure you that there are gay people who have left far greater works of art after their deaths than you ever will. Funny how those aren't mutually exclusive.
>>69035068
He's what Bernie Sanders wants to be. Bernie isn't that smart though and his political views haven't really progressed passed that of the average community college freshmen.
The high sparrow is one of the most lovable characters. The only reason you might hate him is because he is punishing the evil characters we've grown to love for their crimes.
>>69036062
This is why I dislike all non Muslims, the evidence for Allah is plain as day
http://www.strawpoll.me/10114565
>>69033088
Says more about you than the character.
>>69036141
Bernie is Danerys
>Okay we're gunna get rid of slavery, slaverys bad
>Job well done all the slaves are free time to go now that equality has happened Yunkai will be a shining Utopia
>>69035663
>He thinks pleasure is only thing meaningfull in life
but it literally is...
>>69036212
Daenerys is Bush, actually.
>>69036153
>Tide comes in
>Tide goes out
Wallahi there is no other explanation.
>>69036146
I don't hate him because he's punishing people. They all got that shit coming.
I hate him because religious zealots are the worst kind of people.
>>69036278
>dick goes in
>dick goes out
9 months later yer mum gives birth to a retard, you can't explain that
>>69036140
I asked you what if there is not god? What if he did not use religious morals to back his beliefs?
You did not answer me.. I don't care about gays. Sexual prefference is not most important thing to me. But is bafles me how your blind hate for real life church makes you prejudge someone who is clearly progresing society in fictional world. Still you did not adress my point on him helping poor people you are slill using ad hominem and talking about gays. Why are you so obsessed with gays? And yes gays have contributed to society, do you think i am stupid not to know that? But all you seem to talk is about gays while you want to escape adressing other socio-economical issues that high sparrow fixes. If you present me with better alternative then you whoud have my support in what ever your belief are.
And also is creating something people are going to remember for thousend of years less important than sex, drugs and other plesures?
>>69032858
Why do people hate the high sparrow? He's trying to do what the starks couldn't. Fuck the princest!
>>69032858
Between D&D? I don't know OP. They are both shit.
>>69036531
I would bang all three but the one on the far left is HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG
>>69032858
i was for bolton til he went off the deep end and killed his dad. fuckin D&D
>>69035470
tv is a christian board
>>69036253
Meereen was an inside job
>>69032858
The old guy. I hate Ramsey too but only because he's poorly written and I have a crush on Iwan Rheon so I want to see him being nice and attractive and friendly.
>>69036681
eww
>the high sparrow is like bernie sanders
jesus christ tv is such a shit hole sometimes
the high sparrow is full catholic centralist
bernie sanders is full secular commie
>>69036455
>I asked you what if there is not god? What if he did not use religious morals to back his beliefs?
It's not relevant to the discussion, but I would hate him all the same.
>But is bafles me how your blind hate for real life church
Stop assuming things, you incoherent simpleton. I don't have hate for the church.
>Still you did not adress my point on him helping poor people
Because it's not relevant to the discussion. I hate the Sparrow for persecuting people for their consensual sexual activities.
>Why are you so obsessed with gays?
I'm not. You are. I'm simply mentioning them as an example.
It doesn't matter what social issues the Sparrow fixes - and we have no evidence that he does. Hitler fixed social issues as well, it doesn't detract from his crimes.
>And also is creating something people are going to remember for thousend of years less important than sex, drugs and other plesures?
Yes it is, and it has nothing to do with this discussion.
Now fuck off with your logical fallacies.
>>69035507
I love this pic
>>69036780
You should be president
>>69032858
Why would I hate the Sanders of Game of Thrones?
>>69033717
>bernie isn't a demagogue
we've come full circle
>>69033644
FULL /pol/
>>69034585
I agree about this, besides, between the Manderlys (I think its them?) planning their backstabbing with Rickon (if that part will even be in the show) and Ramsay being so stupid he wants to attack the Lord Commander of the Nights Watch, he's very clearly gonna lose. Maybe D&D just wanted someone we hate to lose.
The High Sparrow needs to win. I'm rooting for him.
>>69032994
This.
It's like asking who is worse out of L Ron Hubbard or Jeffrey Dahmer.
Sure, L Ron never ate any weiners (at least none that we know of) but he's still a piece of shit. And his organization spawned lots of other pieces of shit.
Why isn't everyone more excited bout Euron "Empty my nine on land-dweller swine" greyjoy?
That guys going to be one of the most entertaining parts of the season.
On the OP's point; fuck em both. Ramsay's a lunatic and so's the high sparrow.
Difference is; high sparrow is a religious lunatic who commits evil whilst trying to pretend he's kindly and poor.
Nigga you just had a squad big enough to threaten a kingsguard. You are not meek and poor.
high sparrow did nothing wrong
cersei is hillary
>>69032858
ramsay because he should be dead and his character is shit and im done with it. im just bored of his character in general.
the sparrow dude is just doing what he thinks is right. if he kept running the city but without his religious ideologies he would probably do well
>>69036062
The Many Faced God is as real as someone in real life saying "All of the other gods are real, but they are all actually my god, they are just interpreting them incorrectly"
>>69037406
>Why isn't everyone more excited bout Euron
I'm just excited that the retarded Euron=Daario theory is dead now.
>>69037406
What has the High Sparrow done that is evil?
And where does he try to say that he is poor? They are able to reform the Faith Militant by absolving the Crown of all the debt that was owed them. They are incredibly rich, but he doesn't want them to live in excess, especially when there are poor starving.
>>69032858
I don't watch the show, is Jonathan Pryce good in it?
>>69037567
>What has the High Sparrow done that is evil?
Stop being an obtuse faggot.
>>69033110
This
>>69037662
How is that one "well, if you think x is shit, let's see you do it" fallacy called? Would that still be ad hominem?
>>69033644
Your post, your get... This is pure win, you know that.
>>69036780
So everything i asked is not relevant? Everyone you don't like is like hitler? How does it feel to be prejudged with my assumptions? Never even considering that opposition might have some truth in it. You must have expected me to be some redneck wih blind hate for other people. And for fuck sake you retarded moron asking questions is not logical fallacy. Neither am i begging question, neither am i banwagoning or sliperysloping or ad hominering or fucking red herring or strawmaning you retarded fuck. Every point you made i fucking addressed but you seem like a pussy that does not know anything about life and purpose. You are retard that is just trying to show of to other people how good person he is you stupid mongrel. I have not seen this kind of retardacion ever in my life.
Maybe next time don't set fucking arbitrary limitations to discusion that support your fucking circular logic faggot. Try to be more open minded and answer questions stupid idiot. Maybe a was wrong with my past assumption but i am certain that you retard don't even have a clue about politics, economics, geopolitics.. to even answer my questions. Go die faggot and learn what are logical fallacies before you make one.
Stop:
>special pleading(It's not relevant to the discussion, but I would hate him all the same) , >ad hominem(Holy shit you're so fucking retarded)
>Black or white(It doesn't matter what social issues the Sparrow fixes - and we have no evidence that he does. Hitler fixed social issues as well, it doesn't detract from his crimes.)
>apeal to emotion(you whole argument)
>The fallacy fallacy(Now fuck off with your logical fallacies.)
And many fucking more i just don;t want to waste my time on autist who is to stopid to answer me my questions. Retard. I rarely ever use ad hominem as it is most stupid way to present a point, but you kept insulting me fag and still caliming moral highground like a retard hipocritical you are. Thanks for wasting my time idiot.
>>69032858
Bernie Sanders
>>69037616
So you don't have an answer?
>>69037772
He is manipulating the religion and its followers to gain power
>>69033499
Who's fatlegs?
>>69036938
It's not 4chan he's browsing :^)
>>69035068
Trumpites are Ramsey fangs.
Berniecucks are High Sparrow mixed with Dany.
Jon Snow is Obama
>>69037733
You don't even understand how logical fallacies work. Do us all a favor and go back to facebook or youtube where your incoherent, illiterate ramblings might be upboated by like-minded simpletons.
Ramsay is worse but the Sparrow and his commie buddies deserve a helicopter ride.
>>69037834
You mean he is trying to gain power and influence for his religion? So that they can better feed the poor and be ruled over by people who aren't inbred kinslayers?
>>69037930
I actually fully supported Stannis until he threw his daughter into the pyre.
>>69037934
not argument, irelevant, escaping the point, and ad hominering(light).
>>69036766
I think the point of similarity comes from a shallow anti-aristocratic movement. There's no critique of what they can change. So it ends up as,
>Get rid of the lords, us commoners really know how to run 7 kingdoms even though we piss in the streets.
Then
>Get rid of the bankers, us 99% post-modern millennials really know how to make a country work even though we spent all our paycheck on weed and college loan debt.
How can you hate Lord Only Son? Endgame he will be king and there is nothing you fags can do about it. How can he be stopped now with the only son buff and his 20 good men. Don't even get me started about what kind of monster he is without his shirt.
>>69032904
Ramsay, by far.
He's annoyingly edgy, it's infuriating to watch his scene for me. Not because I care so much about the evil shit he does, he's super fucking boring for such a crazy character.
Joffrey was edgy in an entertaining way. CIA is edgy in a lowkey, intelligent way. A lot of the characters are edgy in a stupid way and it's funny to watch them being edgy. But Ramsay is soooooo fucking boring and lame
>>69037987
I mean that part of it is just a show. He is accurately interpreting the religion, but his goal is power for himself.
>>69036681
sure senpai
>>69038114
And he told you this? When everything we have seen in the book and show leads us to believe that he is one of the only well-meaning and selfless characters in the series?
>>69035773
The Iron throne is an empirical title that encompasses 7 kingdoms, a vassal state and an imperial territory.
>>69035888
He looks like Pope Francis.
>>69038219
>well-meaning and selfless
He is clearly building an army to impose his will. He basically said as much to Jaime.
>>69036780
>It doesn't matter what social issues the Sparrow fixes - and we have no evidence that he does. Hitler fixed social issues as well, it doesn't detract from his crimes.
>hitler
>crimes
its 2016 and people still think Hitler was bad
>>69038244
Look who has played CK2:AGoT
Technically all of the Kingdom-tier titles were downgraded to Lord Paramount. They all have varying power and capability so you can't really judge them on being a 'Kingdom' in that respect. They are not an Empire, because they do not proclaim themselves to be, though they certainly could make that claim.
Their dominion is;
The North
The Iron Islands
The Riverlands
The Vale
The Westerlands
The Crownlands
The Reach
The Stormlands
The Dorne
So yes, the High Sparrow wasn't really wrong in calling it an Empire except in that they don't believe themselves to be, they are like a hyper-kingdom instead.
>>69038363
Well yeah, imposing your religious views are easier when you have a bunch of armed zealous peasants and a noble Knightly Order to carry them out. They doesn't mean their intentions aren't altruistic, it just means they are smart enough to know how to achieve their goals. And Cersei was retarded enough to let them re-arm for the first time in like 300 years, something that they have always desired.
>>69032994
He's not a demagogue though. Cersei comes to him unilaterally and gives him a shit ton of power he never asked for. He only wanted to feed people and give them shoes.
>>69038712
>He only wanted to feed people and give them shoes.
>this is what brainless peasants actually believe
>>69037871
Yeah it is
>>69032858
Sparrow. Ramsey's just a run of the mill psychopath. Sparrow's a pompous self-righteous monster.
They appeal to irrationality and prejudice in exchange for power.
How is this good.
>>69032858
Ramsay, they fucked him up to appeal to women.
He's supposed to look like an edgy teenager listens only to Norwegian death metal.
>>69038047
>Shirtless buff to better deflect any possible plot twists
>Only son buff to ensure he is unrivaled
>20 g o o d m e n mechanic is able to outsmart and burn the resources of any army and then beat them in combat while shirtless
>is a meme machine, therefore entertaining, healthy for the show profit
Truly the one and only king
>>69032858
Ramsey and it's not even close.
>>69033507
Must breed.
>>69034008The high sparrow
>>69037605
his presence is good, the lines aren't.
Just like most actors on this show. They are great in their acting etc, but the words pouring out are boring.
>>69035224
No offense inteded by you might need to learn a bit of history.
The church kept tons of knowledge in Occident that would probably have been lost otherwise because nobody else would have wanted to pay for it.
Also dudes that had nothing better to do in their monasteries discovered cool things like genetics (mendel).
Ofc when said discovered thing goes against what you're telling people you tell the guy to go fuck himself (copernic), which is sad but still is the same nowadays with absolutely every single funding institute.
>>69038940
When Cersei Lannister is the alternative.
They're both pretty huge assholes, but the high sparrow doesn't feed babies to dogs so I guess Ramsey.
>>69039421
sure they had some scientific accomplishments and threw money at architects for great structures, but the counterwork against technology and science is far greater than the help. Da Vinci andd people before him had to work in secret to find out shit about anatomy.
The church is not at all interested in technology that isn't helping them. Like book printing (which they actually abhored since it literally was a "they took ur jerbs" situation)
AND what are you insinuating that I need to learn about history?
Honestly Ramsay is my favorite character, Tyrion is 2nd, and Euron will probably be 3rd, This recent episode has been my favorite.
the general failed me.
HOW IS THE SEPTUM STILL ALIVE
Jaime is back, the queen is back in the castle for who knows how long.
Are you really trying to tell me they haven't sent soldiers to wipe them out in the middle of the night?
She could tap into the royal treasury and have a few mercenaries take the septum out and make it look like a mugging
>>69032858
How can you hate the High Sparrow? He's sticking it to the mang mang.
>>69039599
Yes, where there is opportunity for those who can see it.
Freedom for those who use it > Authoritarian Theocracy
>>69039802
Noone would believe that and everybody would turn on them for killing the priests, all the small folk are with the high sparrow
>>69033717
ur telling me he doesnt remind u of bernie?
>>69033970
nah m8 she's got nice tiny titties that would have aged well since 300. they intentionally got someone that looked more aged and sad to make it closer to her description by that point in the books. They intentionally tried to make it unappealing.
>>69039802
she is going to get her sons help first. my guess is he will die during the fight later this season. the next king will be in question and people will look for a bastard son of robert.
or cersie may try to pretend that her son had a child and use the child as a puppet so she can rule for another 18 more years
>>69032858
One is a based edgelord
One is some retarded godcuck.
Who do you think I like more?
>>69032858
>one is a sadistic psychopath
>one is Howland Reed using his little movement to topple the Lanisters from the throne as a revenge for the death of his childhood friend Ned
Plebs pleasee...
>>69039802
In the book the Lannister forces are tied up in the Riverlands and westerlands when the High Septon takes power and cersei gets imprisoned. The only fighting force anywhere nearby was Mace's Reach army, which was booking it to Dragonstone to capture the castle so they could book it home to defend against Euron's Iron Islands invasion. The entire thing is the product of Cersei being an asshole and a fucking retard.
>>69039705
>the counterwork against technology and science is far greater than the help
If you don't have precise, well-sourced data on it, what you're believing in is on the same level as a religion.
Catholic church founded thousands of schools, universities and hospitals. Without this over the centuries from the start of the dark ages, da vinci wouldn't even have existed.
I think you're underestimating the massive role catholic church had for science, which is why i said it was a part of history you didn't know well about (please don't take it personnally).
>>69034637
>Religious zealots don't deserve to be burned alive in the public square
>Lel old people are le always right XD
I bet you think that about boomers, huh? Fag.
>>69034921
Except the 7 are a fraud. The other gods actually exist.
>>69035470
Well that's easy. Christcucks support Stannis, The Red Whore, High Sparrow and Ramsay because they're all evil assholes like them.
>>69035964
>Impying the sparrow cunt isn't just another religious nut who doesn't care about anything but dogma
He'll eat a fucking baby in public if he thinks the 7 want it and he'll fucking act smug and condescending about how humble he is to do it.
>>69036140
This. He's just a fanatic. Nothing more, nothing less. And giving a fanatic power is always a fucking stupid play.
>>69036146
Christcuck detected and fucking how.
>>69036315
A trillion times this. Christcucks don't comprehend the dangers of religious zealotry, because surprise, they're religious zealots. Unless of course, those zealots happen to belong to a different religion or a fictional one they don't view as being similar enough to theirs, then it's fucking WAR regardless of that person's action. Christcucks worst niggers.
>>69036455
>And also is creating something people are going to remember for thousend of years
Yeah, like how to not allow religious nutjobs to seize power, kind of like how humanity did on Earth.
>>69038915
He literally has done nothing wrong.
>>69040484
Religious zealotry is wrong
>You fucked a guy?
>Yeah he has a birthmark!
>Welp, that proves it. Into the dungeon.
He's a typical religious nutjob and he's acting as they do when they get any power.
>>69039880
small folk are mindless.
just kill the septum and announce he was stealing and hoarding riches from everyone and then start throwing out gold to the masses.
>>69040066
She still has money, mercenaries could easily get the job done, dress them up as another cult for effect and belivability
>>69040542
But anon, being gay is wrong.
>>69040053
>one is Howland Reed
Fucking NOPE.
That'd be like a jew becoming pope
>>69040582
It is "Septon" you monkey, and he isn't any Septon, he is the High Septon. You might as well be going "lol well why didn't they just kill the Pope, there's no way that could have any negative repercussions"
>>69040584
That's nice, dear. Isn't this show a bit mature for you, sweetie? Regardless of what you think about homosex, the fucker literally threw a guy indefinitely into a dungeon because a literal whore said he had a birthmark.
>>69040582
>another cult
Why do you retards keep calling it a cult? They believe what 90% of everyone else in Westeros believes religiously, they are just actually practicing it zealously.
>>69040542
Also, they gay stuff isn't in the book. It is presumed they are against pillowbiters, but that is a thing the show put emphasis on to make SJWs and the like hate them.
>>69040618
It's actually Sepsis.
>>69033141
haha joke
>>69040128
>Christcucks
Okay, Mr. Jihad, don't explode on us.
>>69032858
The old fuck.
>>69040638
The gay stuff isn't in the book, they put emphasis on that in the show so SJWs would hate them. They also only portray the Faith Militant only as the Poor Fellows and make them look like fucking ISIS, and we don't see the Warrior's Sons in awesome gleaming silver and crystal and rainbow armor.
And everyone knew that Loras was a faggot. Notoriously so. How much more evidence were they actually supposed to provide? They actually had someone who had had sex with him testify, that seems better than what someone from a similar time period could ever expect to be offered.
>>69040665
It's Sepsoos you ignorant fuck.
>>69040789
>tips fedora
>>69040609
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Peter
If youve read the books, you know its true.
>>69040783
I don't belong to a jewish religion, unlike you. Now remember to not execute or put someone under house arrest for life for disagreeing with you.
>>69040809
The point is, he lucked an entire GROUP of people in a dungeon indefinitely under bullshit flimsy evidence. Literally one guy said "He has a birthmark!"
>>69032858
>show makes a point to show how evil the ruling elite are
>in the first few episodes, jamie and cersei throw bran off a tower and have lady killed to establish how evil the lannisters are
>cersei murders tons of babies because they may or may not be roberts
>peasants rise up and make the evil elite atone for their crimes
>im supposed to hate him
the high sparrow is the most based character on the show
