To become a well practiced automaton? Because he didnt learn a goddamned thing about jazz.
>>68973362
Chads get the fuck out of my board REEEEEEEEEEE
>>68973391
Literally the only thing he practiced in the movie was double time swing. Every practice scene excluding the opening scene has him practicing double time swing even though whiplash didn't have double time swing.
>>68973391
>>68973681
what's the problem? That's literally how mastering one particular skill works. Think of monks or martial arts experts.
And that's still only one aspect of the film. I think more of the obstacle Andrew overcomes (abuse by Fletcher, ostracism by the band, disrespect by his family).
>>68974036
It's the equivalent of a monk mastering how to quickscope in COD.
>>68974112
what?
>>68973391
thats how you learn things
theres no "deeper meaning" or secret of any skill that instantly make you good
what would you know though. you probably believe that you suck at everything because you dont have "talent"
>>68973391
yeah, that's very rich, buddy
For anyone who's versed in jazz terms: was he actually Russian or dragon?
>>68974306
Not bad honestly
The dark knight desu
>>68974383
Definitely Russian.
It's evident, really.
>>68974484
Dark knight rises*
To be honest = desu on here?? Didn't even know
>>68974306
I see what you did there
>>68974224
This tbqfhfamalamadingdong
This one movie about how can young students take an active role in politics and change things, even be heroes, can't remember what it's name was, hold on a bit
![triumph-of-the-will[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/30kSB0q.jpg "triumph-of-the-will[1].jpg")
>>68975800
PCU
It's a documentary but whatever. I knew Cameron was based but after watching this i was mirin the shit out of him. The man is inspiration personified
https://youtube.com/watch?v=wGwhMHNmPpA
>>68974224
Awe, anon. Why the personal attack? You don't know me. Says more about you my man.
That's how you learn to drill. To play those specific songs precisely. It's not how you learn to be a musician, a jazz musician especially. That takes countless hours of improvisation, theory, study, etc. I know art is esoteric to le epic STEM majors, but there's a lot more to it than precision.
>>68973362
lolita.
>>68976031
kek
>>68976016
Did you even watch the movie though? Andrew already had the skills and the talent. Fletcher was just trying to give him the discipline it required to ascend to legendary heights. And it worked.
I want to be great... I want to be one of the greats.
Sounds silly but whenever I'm feeling stressed out about anything I put on The Big Lebowski and it pretty much inspires me to calm down and focus on whatever's got me stressing. I aspire to be more like The Dude.
okay crew, Planecrash
>>68976598
>Were you crashing or were you rising?
>>68976521
>"yes white goyim life isnt going anywhere. its totally okay to become an underachieving loser"
>>68976521
This
And also pic related
>>68976338
>Fletcher was just trying to give him the discipline it required to ascend to legendary heights.
lol Fletcher just wanted muh jazz desciple to control. He ain't gonna go to legendary hieghts by playing pleb high school band shit.
![bm1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/JKQe5Mn.jpg "bm1[1].jpg")
This one.
>>68976521
agreed
>>68976750
not the other anon but now you're just baiting.
Whiplash is all about trying your hardest
>>68975800
There it is
>>68973362
Ikiru
>>68976669
how does it inspire you? like, do the opposite of Swanson?
>>68973391
>>68973681
And that is why Whiplash is a movie non-musicians will never understand.
You haven't experienced the kind of obsessive personality and attention to detail that is required to master an instrument.
>>68981641
lol
>[...]Here’s what Parker didn’t do in the intervening year: sit alone in his room and work on making his fingers go faster. He played music, thought music, lived music. In “Whiplash,” the young musicians don’t play much music. Andrew isn’t in a band or a combo, doesn’t get together with his fellow-students and jam—not in a park, not in a subway station, not in a café, not even in a basement. He doesn’t study music theory, not alone and not (as Parker did) with his peers. There’s no obsessive comparing of recordings and styles, no sense of a wide-ranging appreciation of jazz history—no Elvin Jones, no Tony Williams, no Max Roach, no Ed Blackwell. In short, the musician’s life is about pure competitive ambition—the concert band and the exposure it provides—and nothing else. The movie has no music in its soul—and, for that matter, it has no music in its images. There are ways of filming music that are themselves musical, that conjure a musical feeling above and beyond what’s on the soundtrack, but Chazelle’s images are nothing of the kind.
http://www.newyorker.com/culture/richard-brody/whiplash-getting-jazz-right-movies
>>68981812
Actually I agree with his review somewhat, but as a musician I can assure you that the coin has two sides, maybe Whiplash forgot the part of creating music that involves cooperation and involvement with peers, but the part of learning your instrument through endless sessions of failure and bloody fingers feels just right.
