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Find a flaw.
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Everything
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DC
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>>68968742

> murder count = 263
> quip count = 0

found two flaws actually.
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>>68968742
Ending was a bit rushed

Also doomsday has always been a terrible character. Snyder tried to make him more interesting by making it Zod but still he will always suck

Should have made Zod become a bizarro
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3deep5me
I couldn't handle all the adult themes.
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>>68968742

Superman has hair. that actor clearly hasnt
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>>68968742
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ITT: movies people under 25 can't understand.
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It wasn't Civil War T B H Famalam
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>conflicting motivation for main villain
>main topic of the film (e.g. the title) is focused on so little to be replaced with universe building that could be spread across several films but is squeezed into one making it feel all over the place
>Lex Joe Kurr Luther
>MARTHA
>Repetitive nonsubtle Jesus imagery
>"B-Batman totally indirectly kills people!" he says as Batman shoots a guy in the face
>Superdepressingman completely lacks the joy and spirit the audience loved in the character
>Mass amounts of destruction is bad so let's lead the big cave troll into the city to blow shit up
>Lex Luthor + Zod = Shrek why
>stupid annoying manchild comic book fanboys thinking Zach "Music Video Making" Snyder made a film about 2 men in underpants fighting "2deep4u"
>it's a comic book movie
>capeshit
>fuck comics
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>The Good: Great looking stylish snydervision, batman flashbacks/dreams particularly great, Batfleck is good, action is good, soundtrack is pretty good, Zuckerberg Lex is silly but works. Courtroom scene. Wonderwoman isn’t cringy like Black Widow or Elektra. Lack of quips. Neat lookin Flash and Cyborg. They even did the superman shrivels up thing but without the dumb flowers.

The BAD: Doomsday “ANCIENT EVIL KRYPTONIAN SECRET FORBODEN” is kinda fucking dumb. You can tell they cut out some stuff in the middle, scenes kinda flutter past.

The UGLY: Wonder Woman didn’t really need to be there at all. Aquaman is in for less than thirty seconds. I had to sit through the Ghostbusters trailer before the movie started.
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>>68969669

but all the critics on rotten tomatoes are middle aged.
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>>68968742
It wasn't Mission Impossible with superheroes like the other movie.
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>>68969738
I never pretended to care about rotten tomatoes for shitposting convenience and I'm not starting now.
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>>68969545
it has quip though
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>>68968742
It was made.
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>>68968742
Kike Snyder remains a free, unexecuted man.
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>>68968742

> Dad why is Batman killing all these people? Does that mean killing is OK?
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>>68969573
BUCKY

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the only meme it has given us is its RT score.
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>>68968742
Honestly they could have done a better design for Doomsday, and the extended universe stuff that was forced in.

9/10 though, pretty good.
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>>68970069
It's 27% now? Gotta change my pic then
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>>68926142
>>68926193
>>68926240
>>68926294
>>68926340
>>68926395
>>68926431
>>68926481
>A reading from the Acts of Man of Steel
>Scene 2:13: Selected passages


>3 And I heard a loud voice from the cinema saying, "Look! Snyder's dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and Snyder himself will be with them and be their saviour.

>4 He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more repetitive or safe or cheap comedy or quips, for the old order of Marvel movies has passed away."

>13 And so they hated him, and persecuted him. The critics crucified him and threw rotten tomatoes at him.

>14 But he persevered and gained strength from the audience, and so we will persevere.

>15 And he stands by the right side of the spirit of Kino, and draws inspiration from it, and so will his followers.

>22 During the filming of the port battle at Batman v Superman, Snyder was found wandering along the port.

>23 In one of such instances he walked on water while carrying an IMAX camera on one hand, which greatly terrified his cast and crew at that time.

>24 Affleck, out of fear, shouted "Snyder, if it is you, tell me to come to the water!"

>25 "Come". Snyder said.

>26 Affleck stepped on the water and walked for a few feet but then sank. He cried out "Snyder, hast thou forsaken me? Save me, oh dear brother!"

>27 Immediately Snyder reached out his hand and caught him.

>28 Snyder exclaimed, "Bin Muhammad Afflecki, why did you doubt?"

>29 And so the heretic one vowed to spread the word.
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>>68969946
>Cap mentions Bucky to Iron Man
>He doesn't give a fuck and keeps trying to kill Bucky and Cap

stop trying to compare them DCuck
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>>68968742
Pacing, acting, dialogue, and motivations.

The scenes were beautifully shot, though.
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>>68970142
http://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/filename/tfw_fan_of_dc_movies.jpg/
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>>68968742
Batfleck has object permanence of a 5 year old.
Spent two years researching batman and couldn't figure out it was kent because of glasses?! That's some peek-a-boo bullshit.

Oh and supermans powers was really annoyin. His powers didn't work when convenient.
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>>68969615
Dude martha
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>>68969716
Some of those i agree with but you can't complain about fanbpys pr man children while being on a vietnames smoke signal forum
. its what you say... Ironic.
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>>68970248
Lord praise the Zack!
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>>68968742
This was excellent until they teamed up because 'Martha', other than that it was fine.
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>>68969716
>>"B-Batman totally indirectly kills people!" he says as Batman shoots a guy in the face
He only shot people in the future vision.
>>68969716
>>Mass amounts of destruction is bad so let's lead the big cave troll into the city to blow shit up
They kept him contained in the sea port and the thing survived a nuke, going back and getting the spear was the only chance Batman had left to kill him.
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>>68971197
He lands a Batmobile on top of another car and outright stabs people in the real world
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>>68971337
The guy he stabbed was still alive you see him wiggling in a following shot.
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>>68970277

BUCKY
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keep those tears flowing marveldrone
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>>68968742
the audience
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>>68971375
implying i like either
company wars are retarded
comic films are for kids

have with Delusional Cucks ruining more of your films and you finding it harder and harder to defend them ;)
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It's capeshit
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>>68971394
Winner
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>>68970310
>Scenes were beautifully shot
>Animated lightning
>CGI EVERYTHING
>Filters
>High contrast

Yeah sure
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>>68968742
The whole movie was a flaw
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>>68972153
You're right. They were beautifully and throughtfully framed. Snyder is horrible at directing a movie, but he can do framing
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the top of his head
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>>68974874
ooh I can taste the salt from here
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>>68968742
The movie.

>>68969545
"Is she with you?"
What an amazing kek
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>>68968742
They didn't fuck.
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>>68968742
Scatterbrained editing, awkward dialogue of Lucas' caliber, character assassination, plotline overload, models trying to act, shoehorned side characters not organically integrated into the movie, eclectic musical score, awful color filters, trying to adapt 4 or 5 plots from comic books and ruining every single one of them. It was inexcusable garbage.
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>>68969669
>ITT: movies 18 year olds think are deep.
Admit it, you think the boondock saints is some cinematic masterpiece.
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Daily reminder that Zack is a hack that can only direct movies if his more successful wife is producing them

Deborah Snyder Producing Credits include the following:
The Justice League Part One (producer)
Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (producer)
Man of Steel (producer)
Sucker Punch (producer)
Watchmen (producer)
300 (executive producer)
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Why aren't we allowed to enjoy films anymore? Is it because of the cross-board immigrants from /a/, /pol/, /co/ and /v/?
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>>68971159
>This was excellent
No it wasn't, the movie was constantly breaking at the seams. It was idiotic from the very beginning, from people having the city falling down around him and not evacuating, to people being devoted to Bruce Wayne to the point of stupidity, to everything about Lex Luthor. Superman was just missing even when he was on camera, Cavill can't act his way out of a paperbag.
It was an infuriating spectacle of directorial incompetence. The critics went to soft on it.
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>>68976743
Why are you acting like a victim? This movie was shit.
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>>68970330
This just in: people repost pictures they find in here.
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>>68970248
Zack Snyder movies much like sonic the hedgehog cause some people to lose their marbles.
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>>68968742
Tried to be a 2deep4u movie about a guy dressing as a bat and an alien that shoots lasers with his eyes.
The problem is that it's not self-aware, so it ends up looking retarded.
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>>68968742
why the fuck did lex luthor want them to fight?
why the fuck did lex luthor create doomsday?
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>>68969728
My biggest complaint.
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>>68976797
Aww, my opinion made your brain hurty, huh? It was a fine movie, much better than expected. Sorry you wasted your time, I guess?
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>>68968742
>Martha
Checkmate DCucks
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>>68978869
Childish provocation. This is Snyder's audience.
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Nicolas Winding Refn directs Aquaman.

Alfonso Cuarón directs Green Lantern.

Derek Cianfrance directs The Flash.

Ben Affleck directs Batman
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>>68971487
>I ddddidnt even like winter solider

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>>68979163
Batman 5 Superman was a hit with neglected 12 year olds, apparently.
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>>68979163
Winter Soldier was a kids movie trying to be smart until it forgot to do so near the end and finished with "LOOK AT DESE EXPLOMSIONS WOW ISNT TAHT KOOOL?11!!!!!"11!"
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>>68968742
Cavill and Gadot have no charisma. Lex Luthor is too Woody Allen. Forgettable score by Zimmer.
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>>68979379
But that WW theme tho...
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>>68976743
It's because they're shit. We're not allowed to enjoy them anymore because the 90s turned Earth into a capitalist hell and all media has to be fucking 1984-tier cashgrab forgetable bullshit.

Yeah, I watched those shitty Marvel movies. ONE TIME each. That's it. Know how many times I've watched AEon Flux or The Dark Crystal or Aliens though? Yeah, neither do I, because I've lost fucking count. Post-2000 movies and tv a shit. A FUCKING SHITTTTTTTT.
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>>68968742

Some seem to shut their brains off when watching this movie. Every complaint I've heard in regards to the reasons why, is all explained in the movie. My only complaint with this film is how they handled the last fight, way too much CGI. Other than that this is a 9/10 for me. I watched it weeks ago and I'm still finding new things to discuss with people, I never got that from a marvel film except when talking about the fight scenes.
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>>68968742
It was made.
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>>68979675

Right? It was so shitty
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>>68975787
Kevin Murphy: "We missed Batman and Superman get married!"
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>>68979026
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>>68980210
You're saying Aeon Flux is a good movie, really?
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>>68979226
>yyyyyoure a kid
>marvel flicks are for mature adults like myself

Holy shit it never stops
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>>68980562
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

The series. The REAL AEon Flux.
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>>68980442
>Every complaint I've heard in regards to the reasons why, is all explained in the movie.
How was Lex Luthor going to stop Doomsday?
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>>68979071
Go have a snack, you'll feel much better son.
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>>68968742
WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME?
WHY ARE YOU MAKING ME LOVE YOU AS A BROTHER NOW BASED OFF ONE COINCIDENCE I SHOULD HAVE BEEN AWARE OF BY NOW?
WHY DID WE WASTE ONE HOUR OF FILM TIME?
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>>68979675
It was inappropriately used, too often and too blaring to not be ridiculous. People laughed in the theater when Wonder Woman appeared on screen, and not the good kind of laughter.
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>>68980619
>no arguments
>only memes
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>>68980665
That's all this turd was good for.
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>>68980665
>no arguments
>only meme arrows

also, obligatory BRUH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYKeQczkFfM
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>>68968742
Not enough symbolism
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>>68980605
He assumed he could control it because it was his "son"
Or
He didn't care since he lost anyway.

Try again Doug
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>>68980619
Bruce had spent the entire movie seeing Supes as an alien, but then when he heard his mother's name he remembered her death and saw himself as Joe Chill killing a relatively nother human being who had no malicious intent. He was so caught up in hating the alien that he did not even care what his secret identity was or who his adoptive moms name was.

He then went off to save his mom as penance for attempted murder.

Its a pretty good intro to Superman Batman friendship because it shows their shared convictions and equal standing gradually as opposed to like in the DCAU where Batman judo throws Superman (lol) or in New 52 where Superman thinks Batman is the alien and tries to smash his brains in.
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>>68968742
not enough turkish airlines, tbqhfamicon
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>>68980605
With the Justice League, armed with the kryptonite weaponry a dead Bruce designed.
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There is a good rip out so I watched it again, the scene where the krypotinite first wore off and Batman's punches were ineffective and he gave a "oh shit i'm going to die look" was pretty good. I liked that along with when he gives that "do you bleed" line and Superman just shakes his head in disgust and flies away mid sentence. Little things like that are great. As a whole everything sucked though.
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>>68980862
I completely get why Batman would do a 180 when Supe dropped "MARTHA", it was heavily alluded to by Alfred earlier.

I just hate that they would throw out any doubts you had about Superman or has guilt involving the deaths of many, or his unlimited power, based off one word. Any criticism they showed to Supe is basically written off because "you are a close minded sheep who is afraid of big alien man"
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>>68980605

When a mad scientist creates something, he just marvels at the living existence of his creation. Lex was no exemption, Supes even saved his life because he was just marveled at his creation, he didn't think he'd need a plan to stop him, he most likely knew he couldn't since the Kryptonian archives at the ship gave him the knowledge of exactly what he was creating.
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>>68980990
I'm not convinced we're done with how the public views Superman yet. I think maybe next time we see him, he's going to be actively confronting the growing public perception of him as a religious figure.
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>>68980912
Batman in general was good, and also well received by critics and audiences, it was the movie he was in that sucked.
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>>68980990
Also Superman needed a scene where he was making an effort not to kill anyone or cause collateral damage. Like everyone said MOS and killing Zod was his was of learning he must never kill. He never had this self reflection in BVS. The last boss should have been a revived and sentient Zod who he found a way to stop without killing to drive home the lesson. Zod could have taunted him the entire fight, calling him a murdered and Superman finds a way to stop him without murder. Nah lol he just ends up killing him again with a kryptonite lance. I feel violated buying the "Snyder made MOS retarded to impact future movies" meme.
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Batman V Superman is a movie with a bunch of really fantastic scenes that when put together make no sense.

I still kind of think the 3 hour version will be GOAT.
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>>68980605
"If God is all-good then he can't be all-powerful."
Lex wanted Superman to 1) Die, and disprove godliness 2) Kill a human, and cement godliness (which he lies by saying that killing Batman would prove him to be a fraud - a lie to Superman contradicted by above line that he feeds Superman so that he could accept ruthlessness) or 3) Fail to kill Batman but then become ruthless anyway as revenge for Martha or 4)Find a way to save Batman and Martha which would be impressive but not godlike

Superman is God. Doomsday is the devil (well Darkseid really).
In any of these scenarios, Doomsday would still be released because in 1.)The world is going to be murdered by Darkseid anyways, in 2)Because Lex believed Superman would be able to kill Doomsday and 3)same as 2, ruthless Superman would do better against Darkseid and 4)to further test Supermans resolve
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>>68981185
Funny considering all the bitching when Ben Afleck was revealed to be playing Batman and he ended up as the only good thing. I excuse the killing thing because it's clear this is an old fed up Batman who doesn't give a fuck anymore and is just old and tired and rung through completely. It's totally believable that a man who went through hell would betray certain naive ideologies he had when he was first starting out. Superman though has no such excuse.
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>>68968742
snyder.
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>>68981152
>"No man in the sky ever came down and saved me from daddy's fists and abominations."

How about saving you from your own, Lex? That good enough?
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>>68981388
I think he fully expected Clark to kill Bruce, and that it had nothing whatsoever to do with Lex thinking it would say anything about the nature of God.
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>>68969640
No dude he clearly has hair.. If anything he needs a shave
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>>68979675
The only good tunes are Red Capes Are Coming and Beautiful Lie. WW's theme was ridiculous and jarringly out of place.

One of the movie's stupidest moments comes in the beginning by the way, when father Wayne tries to PUNCH a robber armed with a fucking GUN. The moment I watched this insipid scene I understood I gotta visit some shitfest of stupidity.
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>>68981784

>You'll never lay your head on his hairy tummy and slowly nurse a huge load from his cock
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>>68980442
Overexplaining or lack thereof doesn't make for compelling film. Just let it go, you enjoy explosions and vague, lazy shit happening on screen because you it lets you play on your phone while watching a movie and not miss anything.
Zack Snyder is the director for the ADD generation.
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>Actions, such as the destruction of Metropolis, have (immediate!) in-universe consequences
>Characters undergo actual changes through their individual experiences
>Physical as well as psychological conflict is used metaphorically to highlight and question principles, rules and morals
>Has a hard-earned and thus crystal-clear message of Brotherhood
>Offers no false hope or illusions; illustrates that co-operation is a necessity precisely because there is no hope
>Superman's struggle not driven by physical conflict but rather by the fact that despite him being literally super-powered, he is subject to the same experience and power(lessness) as everyone else, when it comes to emotional, social and metaphysical experiences and questions of morality, the (in)ability to form bonds with other people etc.
>Terrifying portrayal of Batman (e.g. the scene with him hanging in the corner of the room) - a man broken by the world around him, desperately seeking redemption
>Wonder Woman only there because she got up in it, wanted to actively hide her existence yet is forced to fight when confronted with danger
>Smart introduction of other Superhero characters
>Insane, feverish dream sequences
>Exhiliarting OST

This film is as good as it gets when it comes to capeshit. I don't care about the whole DC vs. Marvel and its fine to hate both. But people who unironically praise the drivel that Marvel re-packages and re-sells every 1/2 year and then shit on this film, these people are idiots.
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>>68981701
No, you're wrong.

It was all about God. No man in the sky ever came when he was abused, and now a man is in the sky and he has certain responsiblities. To Lex, God should be a killer and truly all-powerful so he puts these trials in front of Superman to build him up to that. Lex 100% accepts Superman as the New God

The exact same he accepts Darkseid in that deleted scene. Isn't that a contradiction, to hate Superman, to think he's a lie and a fraud, but then herald more aliens to Earth? Because Lex never thought Superman was a fraud, but he thought humanity could change him to be one
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>>68980570
You're the only one mentioning marvel movies here, Billy.
>>68980611
It certainly won't make this movie watchable.
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>>68981971
>>Smart introduction of other Superhero characters
>smart
Try harder.
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>>68981971
>Smart introduction of other Superhero characters
10/10 copypasta right here
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>>68980665
That's a direct quote from the movie. This fag hasn't even seen the movie he's defending, holy cocks.
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>>68981971
I laugh at the fact that you're unironically not only saying a movie as universally panned as BvS is good, but "as good as it gets"

Seriously, leave this place. You're only hurting the board by being here.
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>>68980862
>but then when he heard his mother's name he remembered her death and saw himself as Joe Chill killing a relatively nother human being who had no malicious intent. He was so caught up in hating the alien that he did not even care what his secret identity was or who his adoptive moms name was.
That literally never fucking happened.
>>68981386
There was nothing "fantastic" about Cavill's or Gadot's acting.
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>>68981971
>immediate!
>knee-jerk reaction on the second movie due to fan complaints
You're like the gift that never stops giving, Snyderfags.
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>>68982095
>Seriously, leave this place. You're only hurting the board by being here.
This hellhole cannot possibly get any worse than it already is, snyderlads are the only source of entertainment we've had in months.
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>>68982002
>Lex 100% accepts Superman as the New God

No he doesn't, he wants to show people that Superman isn't God, by either corrupting him (to show he isn't all good) or killing him (to show he isn't all powerful.

>They need to see the fraud you are, with their eyes, with the blood on your hands.

>Now the cameras are waiting on your ship, for the world to see the holes in the holy! Yes the Almighty comes clean about how dirty he is when it counts! To save Martha!
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>>68982002
I think the only thing that Lex accepts about him is that he has something that he wants for himself, something Clark doesn't even want for himself - being viewed as a god-like figure. Lex sees a way to steal a bit of that perception for himself by becoming the savior of all mankind, even if he's saving it from a threat he creates himself.

And I'm not talking about Doomsday.
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>>68981388

I think Lex just hated to feel powerless, and not dissprove godhood. He thinks Darkseid is God and Supes is just a false God. So he set out to proove this, and make Supes either fail and loose control of his shit and kill everyone and become an easy target for Darkseid or succeed in killing him.
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>>68982262
A killer Old Testament Superman God would not be corrupted at all

Like I said the fraud line is a lie! Lex knows that Superman is a good person so he is introducing that moral dissonance to push him towards 'falling' (from his point of view) but then embracing ruthlessness like in Batmans dream thingy
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>>68981507

Shit. Never saw it like that. I love this movie.
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>>68982314
>Darkseid
>Darkseid
Stop this bullshit right now. I don't fucking care if the Darkseid pool sequence is included in a cut scene, it is NOT in the actual movie. So, if you watch the film in the theater on your own, you're fucking clueless on what Luthor is up to, what motivates or frightens him, or what is behind his double-meaning (atrocious) mumbling at the end.
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>>68981963

Project all you want anon. To me, a good films makes you want to watch it more than once, and this was one of them.
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>>68982505
Not that guy, but I don't need Darkseid for Lex to make sense. He's basically Ozymandias if Ozy had had a real, live alien to present to humanity as the enemy.
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>>68968742
Batman's logo is on Superman instead of Batmat how did they fuck the poster up?
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>>68982998
Ozymandias does what he does because he fear the nuclear apocalypse. LL creates DD wreaking havoc to make a silly, edgy point about GODS AND DEMONS SO THOUGHTFUL leading nowhere.
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>>68968742
The audience

The critics
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>>68983234
Don't mistake what we see as his plan. His actual plan went off the rails as soon as he thought he'd successfully predicted the outcome of the fight between Clark and Bruce as a zero sum game.
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>>68982505

Even if you don't know who Darkseid is, the movie tells you that there was a darker being behind Lex. It doesnt change anything about his actions, instead it makes you understand them more. The whole movie is filled with foreshadowing events that are not explored in the main plot.
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>>68969669
>ebin le you didn't get it 2deep4u xD maymay
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>>68971394
/thread
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>>68971337
he machines gun people in trucks, Oh he didn't directly shoot them. You literally see the truck explode with a person in it.
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>>68981392
I was of that opinion too till Snyder came out and gave a completely different reason.
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YOU CAN'T UNRING A BELL
DINGDINGDING
dingidngdiingding

Anyone else burst out laughing at this? At this point the movie crossed over from really shitty to absolutely absurd

/tv/, we could have written a better script
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>>68982095
I bet you enjoyed the Force Awakens
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>>68984671
Not that guy, but I don't care if the Batman kills in this one. He's disillusioned, thinks that everything he ever believed about himself was a lie. Seeing him go to war and unambiguously waste people serves to illustrate the brutality he's going to be shown keeping in check in future movies. It gives them tons of places to take the character.
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It came as the flagship of capekino, but the world wasn't ready.
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>>68981392

if people expect something in batman to suck it will be good

>People thought Keaton would suck
>People thought Bale would suck
>People thought Ledger would suck
>People thought Affleck would suck

Leto as Joker already confirmed as shit because people expect it to be good
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>>68984761

TELL THAT TO LUTHORS RUNG BELL
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>>68984845
I think everyone was hyped for bale batman

He was okay though , nothing great. Though he wasn't given much to work with despite the movies being pretty good for the most part
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Why were they even fighting?
>you're too powerful to be kept alive
>despite all these other superpowered people existing
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>>68984934
Begins was great
First half of TDK was good
The second half of TDK and all of TDKR were fucking terrible
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>>68985000
Well, the rest of those guys weren't at ground zero in the aftermath of a battle that killed a lot of people, either.
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>>68968742
>Zack Snyder
>autistic Lex
>SAVE MAAARTHA ARRRRRRGH
>no happy Superman
>buildup to the fight was shit
>Aquaman cameo ( LAND DWELLERS REEEEEEEE)
>Pointless Flash sequence
>Jimmy Olsen redshirted
Everything else was great
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>>68985000
"Batman, Lex Luthor kidnapped my mother and told me he will kill her if I don't bring you his head, please help me"

"Wonder Woman, you are clearly super-human, please stab Doomsdork in the face with this spear you are not deathly allergic to"

"Oh no Superman has been """killed""" like a certain other Kryptonian who died if only we had some way of trying to heal him like a certain other Kryptonian who died was also healed"

"Yes, the US government is going to bury Superman instead of slicing him up and figuring out how the most powerful god-alien Earth has ever seen ticks under the hood"
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Martha, Eisenberg's Luthor, that JL trailer inside the movie, the christian symbolism, the first hour and a half of the movie.

The only good things were the fight between Batman and Superman and the fight against doomsday (too much cgi though).

6/10 aceptable at best
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>>68984761
This. I wasn't even angry or sad anymore by this point. It was a bizarre experience and a bizarre movie.
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>>68985185
For the last point, I'm pretty sure they couldn't since they had nothing to cut him with to study him.

I've always thought it was stupid how he/Zod retain that superpower after they die, but it is what it is
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>>68985185
>"Batman, Lex Luthor kidnapped my mother and told me he will kill her if I don't bring you his head, please help me"
Valid. That was a little contrived, but he did try to talk to him at first. I think he was trying to cow him but got blindsided by his first exposure to kryptonite. I'm also half-convinced he spent a good portion of that fight unable to talk. He did inhale that kryptonite, after all, though it still could have used more visible cues to drive that point home.

>"Wonder Woman, you are clearly super-human, please stab Doomsdork in the face with this spear you are not deathly allergic to"
Superman choosing to risk his own life before letting someone else do it is 100% Superman.

>"Oh no Superman has been """killed""" like a certain other Kryptonian who died if only we had some way of trying to heal him like a certain other Kryptonian who died was also healed"
And just look how well that turned out.

>"Yes, the US government is going to bury Superman instead of slicing him up and figuring out how the most powerful god-alien Earth has ever seen ticks under the hood"
They didn't bury him. The "official" burial of Superman was an empty coffin, as indicated by the jets flying in the Missing Man formation. Bruce and Diana worked with Lois to maintain Clark's secret, most likely saying he was vaporized in the last explosion.
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>>68968742
I rather watch all three Star Wars prequels than watch BvS again.
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>>68968742
no CIA
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>>68985808
That's a big criticism of mine, too. They could have given us CIA in his final form, but we were robbed.
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>>68985581
They had the Kryptonian tech

>>68985608
>he did try to talk to him at first
He should have kept trying instead of shoving him across a building and then tackling him clear through an empty one. *That's* what superman would do.

>Superman choosing to risk his own life before letting someone else do it is 100% Superman.
Except it never felt like he did what he did out of heroism because they never discussed the option. WW was godlike in the fight scene with Doomsday, she even chopped his fucking hand off, she was clearly better at dealing with him.

I mean for fuck's sake at the end she had him lasso'd Superman should have just chucked the fucking spear

>And just look how well that turned out.
Well maybe they could have used the Kryptonian technology to try and not do it in a megalomaniacal evil magic blood ritual way?

>The "official" burial of Superman was an empty coffin, as indicated by the jets flying in the Missing Man formation
Okay, good point.
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>>68986234
>He should have kept trying instead of shoving him across a building and then tackling him clear through an empty one. *That's* what superman would do.

That, I agree with. They could have so easily presented in blatant terms that the k-gas rendered him unable to speak, I'd have bought that in a minute.

>Except it never felt like he did what he did out of heroism because they never discussed the option. WW was godlike in the fight scene with Doomsday, she even chopped his fucking hand off, she was clearly better at dealing with him.
Well, I look at it as Clark sees Diana has him temporarily restrained, sees Bruce temporarily weakened him with that k-grenade, and Clark sees this as possibly the best chance they're going to get and just goes for it.
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>>68986234
Wonder Woman was only really doing well against doomsday because he was entirely focused on superman. As soon as doomsday even looked at her or batman they were on the run
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>>68986828
>As soon as doomsday even looked at her or batman they were on the run
She lasso'd him while Clark and Lois were dorking it up for like 5 minutes
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>>68987186
I'm waiting to see if the extended scenes show more of that fight.
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