Ok so Civil War honestly looks like garbage to me, and everything i've heard about it solidifies my feelings. But i still want to try to like it, even after they've fucked up Zemo.
Basically, is Crossbones done well in the film or is he "Just another MCU villain"?
>>68925447
I thought he died in the first 5 minutes
>>68925447
Crossbones is basically just a story enabler.
He doesn't do anything except shoot at Cap and have a half decent fight scene until cap starts ripping his POWAH fists off.
>>68925464
He does.
>>68925447
Crossbones is wasted, Zemo is marginally less wasted.
>>68925447
why does he look like all his equipment and armor is cobbled together from garbage found on the side of the road? is hydra on a really tight budget?
>>68925505
the movie is
I didn't even know this was some sort of important villain to be honest, i just assumed it was some enemy of the week type of thing, Great scene though.
Also just watch the movie, its fun if anything and i had a good time watching it with freinds
>>68925476
so he's pretty much the batrock the leaper guy from the beginning of the last one
>>68925447
Is that a nail clipper on his shoulder?
>>68925447
They kinda wasted him.
It would've been nice to have him be a low level player in later movies or on the Netflix shows.
>>68925542
THEY FUCKED UP BATROC?!
>>68925588
It's a light.
>>68925447
>They fucked up zemo
No they didn't
>>68925660
It was probably the best scene of the movie but short.
Anybody else felt remorse for Zemo?
I couldn't see him as a bad guy, he was just trying to avenge his wife and kid.
And look at this innocent face.
>>68925758
Zemo did nothing wrong, he also won.
>fucked up Zemo
They saved him at the end on purpose, so he's still alive but with more reason to hate the avengers and a backstory/origin. He provided a great plot-twist and he's set to be a proper villain in movies to come, without having to develop him. The actor was great and he portrayed Zemo brilliantly. What's the fucking problem?
>>68925447
>claims they fucked up zemo
>hasn't watched the movie
Was it autism?
>>68925807
The problem is that he had no purple mask and therefore he sucks, because every straw has to be grasped.
>>68925818
About 40% of /tv/ poster are only slightly removed from DoubleSwee.
>>68925464
>>68925476
>>68925497
>>68925542
>>68925631
Well great, now i know not to bother. Shame really i actually dug his faux-iron man look.
>>68925528
He's not MAJOR, but hes a good character thats been in some great stuff
>>68925758
>yfw Zemo is the real Avenger
>>68925801
>he also won
sort of. Cap and Tony are still friends. he didn't destroy the "empire", just inconvenienced it, and not even by his own hand but by Tony's.
>>68925807
he doesnt act or look anyhting like the source material, you are correct in the fact it may change, which i hope it does but so far the only thing similar is the accent.
>>68926043
Since when were you under the impression this isn't exactly what he planned for?
>>68925818
mate i ant seen anything saying he was any good and he looks nothing like comics zemo, given the track record for marvel films villains what do you expect me to think, so instaed of getting defensive, at least tell me why he isnt a mess,
>>68925758
>tfw Zemo's motivation and plans makes more sense than Facebook Luthor jr.
Why are all Marvel movie villains so fucking lame?
Iron Man vs Business dude
Iron Man vs Business dude and whipman
Iron Man vs I don't even know who at this point, probably business dude
Ant-Man vs business dude
Thor vs boring ass Loki
Thor vs an elf? I don't remember anything about him
Avengers vs Loki and bland hollywood design alien army
Avengers vs evil robot that should be cool but isn't
Captain America vs Red Skull, kinda ok I guess
Captain America vs hydra dude in a plot reveal that will shock nobody
>>68926115
>leaving out Hulk vs Emil
Emil, up until the transformation, was great.
>>68926115
Tony is the true villain of the MCU.
>tfw Pym didn't fucked up badly this time
>>68925447
>nothing happens
>boring action
>dumb characters
>boring script
>bad cgi
>couldn't decide which storylines to follow
>predictable plot
>lackluster acting
>no emotions
>forgettable premise
>lazy plot devices
>stolen ideas
>overstuffed plot
>dumb audience
>confusing editing
>laughed at how terrible the music was
>sound effects were cheap
>scenes were fake looking
>shower was broken at theater.
>10/10 would meme again
>>68925990
Your loss Broseph. I'm planning to go again.
>>68926083
Does anyone speak this language?
>>68926115
Can't have the vilains be more interesting than the heroes. And since the heroes aren't that great to begin with...
>>68926205
>shower was broken at theater
Eh?
>>68926197
Does Hank Pym show up in Civil War?
I quite like Michael Douglas, even if he doesn't give a fuck about the acting.
>>68925447
shooting the bullets on his arm can start a chainreaction and blowing his arm off easy
>>68926216
so you haven't actually got any reasons as to why he's a good character? nicely done.
>>68926320
Not him but Zemo is good because what he's doing makes sense. How many villains in comic book movies do something that makes sense?
He's also kinda justifies in doing it. That's not very common either.
He's also possibly coming back in the future, so there's that.
>>68925447
tfw mcu Crossbones looks more like a obscure as fuck batman villain then actual crossbones.
>>68926392
That looks horrible too. I've never even heard of him, is he like some D-lister?
>>68926320
There is no point discussing with you your clearly biased against marvel movies, hes a good character watch the movie and you'd know, or go on 4chan and shitpost your choice auscunt.
>>68926235
No. I wish Douglas was just there to punch RDJ.
>>68926523
How long until we see him again anyway? Ant-Man & The Wasp isn't coming until years from now.
>>68925505
>is hydra on a really tight budget?
He's not HYDRA anymore.
>>68926566
Then you're saying he's a mercenary? A masked man?
>>68926164
I haven't seen the movie since it was in cinemas, but I distinctly remember him walk up to Hulk, say something like "Come at me bro!" and the next shot had him wrapped around a tree. It was great.
>>68926044
Who cares really ? It's the MCU after all.
The same shit happened in Iron Man 3 with the Mandarin.
Alternate universe doesn't have to be absolute faithful ...
In the Marvel Noir universe the Baron Zemo is actually a brainwashed Howard Stark
>>68926604
That was after he'd gotten the super soldier serum. He survived against the Hulk as a regular human before that. His team didn't.
>>68926651
>The same shit happened in Iron Man 3 with the Mandarin.
The guy from IM3, both guys, the actor and Killian, were actually just impersonating the real Mandarin. The real Mandarin is still out there.
>>68926443
not him, but i think he showed up in Gotham City Sirens once and thats about it.
>>68926447
holy shit your're thin skinned, i already said i want to like it, i made a point of critiscim and you acted like a child, at least >>68926371 could make a point without trying to deflect.
>>68926651
desu theres always the chance they'll do some dumb fuckery with the comics to match the film tone, like nick fury
>>68926743
That's a retcon though. Not that I minded, I liked the twist. I'm still sceptical about a Zemo without his mask and Nazi ties, though. Does he wear purple, at least?
>>68926804
No, why would a normal person wear purple? That's just weird.
>>68926551
Anon...
>>68925716
>>68925660
>>68925542
>Best scene
That's because GSP played the part.
Fuck he was awesome. Only reason to watch that shit movie.
>>68926115
Tumblr gushing aside, Loki is great. Hiddleston has great fun with the character, and it's obvious that he completely realises the ludicrous shit he's in. He goes above and beyond the usual "HURR DURR I FIEGHT U" MCU baddies
That said, his arc is pretty much done, and they shouldn't deal with him outside of resolving the development at the end of Thor 2.
>>68926371
I have a hard time wrapping my head around why they needed to be in the arctic. Spoilers ahead.
Okay so he needed to seclude them, make them think his motivations were related to the super soldiers and then destroy the super soldiers. Hence why they're in the arctic where the soldiers are.
But even though I know the story reasons, I just can't "switch off" and let them get away with the behind the scenes reason of them wanting a cool location. Anyone else bothered by this?
>>68925447
He literally dies in first 10 minutes of the movie
>Tries to Allahu Akbar Captain America
>Scarlet Witch stops it then sends him straight to a sky scraper
>???
And there you have a Wakanda 9/11
>>68926523
I just learned this is a thing. How did he do it?
>>68926927
Nigga this is capeshit. None of it makes any fucking sense unless you "switch off", it's almost all there just to look cool.
>>68926073
because what he wanted was for Cap and Tony to kill each other. he even said it himself.
>>68926044
Spoilers: The comic design is fucking ludicrous and would never have worked on film.
>>68927034
So ye got shit taste, good for you
>Iron Man
>Green Goblin
>Spiderman
>Captain America
>Any asgaurdian
>Superman
>Wonderwoman
>Killer Croc
>>68927204
All of those characters have undergone redesigns for film, or would never work unless redesigned.
There are many comic designs you can't transpose directly to film without looking incredibly silly.
>>68925660
>Literally get GSP to be Batroc
>Give him a pretty awesome fight scene
Nah he was cool. TWS is just a fucking dank movie tbqh.
>>68927338
so an egotist with a rich background wouldnt dress like that?
Most of those characters havent even been redesigned
>>68926949
Have you seen Wall Street?
>>68925447
Zemo was awesome. He was Lex Luthor done right. If you were objective you'd see this.
>>68925447
>takes off gas mask
>another mask underneath
>>68928868
That part got me, it would be so uncomfortable and im pretty sure the fit would work.
>>68926110
>Facebook Luthor jr.
He want to control or destroy "gods"
>>68925447
no one gives a shit about your feelings faggot.
>>68929896
ITT: mommy never loved me
>>68926927
Zemo wanted to kill the winter soldiers and knew that Cap and Bucky would follow him there and presumably he knew Iron Man would. It's just getting two birds with one stone, also the video of Bucky killing the Starks was there so he could easily show Tony.
>>68925464
>I thought he died in the first 5 minutes
>>68925497
>He does.
>>68926938
>He literally dies in first 10 minutes of the movie
That's just sad.
Does baron zemo have his purple mask in this flick?
>>68931041
Nah, he's just a normal human for now.
>>68926205
you forgot the cheesy one liners and nods to random irrelevant issues
>>68927204
>he thinks the Asgardians don't look fucking ridiculious
>>68926589
that would explain why he looks like a ninja turtle villain from a junkyard
>>68931041
he isn't baron zemo, he's just a dude with an easter egg name
Zemo did nothing wrong.
In the end, he was right.
Everybody felt sorry for him.
>>68925447
I fucking love his design
>>68927544
Gsp is an overrated fuccboi right now. Fuck off fangirl
>>68926115
You're pulling the usual "describe the core concept as basically as possible" bullshit and it doesn't work. Bridges was fun as evil business guy. Kingsley was fun as the Mandarin. Spader was fun as the evil robot. Hiddleston is a fun Loki. And Winter Soldier proved you don't even really need a great villain to be a great movie (I think that wasRedford?).
