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I didn't get it
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Literally how?
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>>68901438
She was in future prison and relived the day over and over
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>>68901537
But... why?
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>>68901438
Worst episode, in my opinion.
Not that bad, but not nearly as good as the others.
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>>68901591
Commentary on what we find entertaining, I guess.
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>>68901591
Punishment and schadenfreude and entertainment.
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>>68901601
>not the waldo episode
>not the one where the president fucks a pig
Shit taste
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>>68901591
It was about what happens when the publics desire to see criminals suffer overwhelms any sense of justice or scale.
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>>68901689
The Waldo episode was really good. Up until it went full retard at the end.
And the pig fucker one is great because it was prophetic.
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>>68901438
The onlookers were the villains, for taking pleasure in her endless suffering.
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>>68901438
Blacks are terrible people
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>>68901689
Prime Minister fucking the pig was godtier simply because it was revealed years later that our Prime Minister did actually fuck a pig。
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>>68901762
He didn't fuck it. He just put his cock in its mouth.
Close enough to be hilarious though.
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white bear haunted me for hours

jesus christ that was just too far

"not the first time you've said that" ugh plz stahp
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We can all agree 15 million merits was best episode
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I think we all agree the entire history of you is the best episode right?
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>>68901803
yeah, the episode itself is one of the weaker ones but the punchline was pretty rough. Not as rough as the ending of that christmas special, but still.
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>>68901762
This show is a series of documentaries.
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>>68901873
You are wrong.
>>68901877
He is right.

We can all agree on that.
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>>68901877
The one where the widow step by step recreates her dead husband was my favorite.
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>>68901803
>>68901887
Once they explained everything that was happening, it was totally unnecessary to continue showing her torture and screaming for ten more minutes.

Like, you could have gone to the kitchen, made a sandwich, and come back, and all you would have missed was screaming.
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>>68901917

I think I watched that one right after I saw Her and it didnt have as big an impact as it could have
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>>68901591
"Cruel & unusual punishment"
You just watched it, nigga.
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>>68901917
That one is pretty good, yeah.
Scary real too
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>>68901782
>He didn't fuck it. He just put his cock in its mouth.
So, if I put my cock in YOUR mouth, I wouldn't be fucking you?
Open wide sunshine.
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>>68901591
child killers deserve to be severely punished
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Did nothing wrong.
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>>68902065
she wasn't a child killer, she was an accessory

her boyfriend killed it while she filmed it

also we don't know completely if she did it or not
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>>68901877
Fucking hell that episode was rough. At first I really liked that memory history thing and thought it was cool as shit. Then the shit went down and it just completely changed how fucking bad this tech is.

One part that got me the most was the having sex shit while in it. Because you never know if the chick you're banging is remembering the time she had great sex when she was with some other guys.

That episode gave me trust issues, and now I really think I can't hold a long relationship and have a wife. :(
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>>68902093
He was right all along.
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>>68902062
Nah, I'd just be giving you a blowjob.
Come on, mate.
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>>68902147
this
no regrets
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>>68902147
Yep. Loved it. By far the best episode.
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GOD TIER
The Entire History of You
White Christmas

GOOD TIER
The National Anthem
White Bear

MEH TIER
Fifteen Million Merits
Be Right Back
The Waldo Moment
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>Best episode
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main points of it
- the bystander effect - people not intervening in situations where they should
- dissociation - both the main actress and the audience members dissociate themselves from the violence in front of them by placing a screen in between them, making it seem like they're not really there but watching it on TV so cannot intervene
- mob mentality - we're a just society until someone does something inconceivable so is met with an equally shocking response - "that nonce touched a girl so we're right to flay, castrate and burn him alive"
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>>68902093
>>68902130
>When he found out the kid wasn't his
>When he realized she still has the memory of the other guy fucking her

Goddamn this show is depressing
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>>68902263
>ride a bike 12 hours a day for 15 years
>have sex and take drugs 24 hours a day for 15 years

Choose one
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>>68902263
>that advert scene

I wanted to blow my fucking brains out on that part.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_Hell

Take what happened to her and extend it to infinity and you create a sort of Dante-esque hell. Now philosophize, my nigga.
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>>68902252
>shit tier: the waldo moment, charlie brookers twitter
FTFY
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>>68901719

Waldo was literally the worst episode

you could fucking feel middle class intellectual sneer through the screen at "the mob"

had the worst acting as well.
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What's the point? They erased her memory, so the consciousness that did those crimes is already dead. It's just a body that creates a day's worth of memories, then gets wiped clean again.

Seems like a massive waste of a taxpayer money too. Just kill her.
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>>68901936
I agree, in fact I thought the whole episode was pretty one-note. The apoclypse bit really bored me, the twist was good, but then it kept hammering it in for the rest of the episode.
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>>68902263
That ending
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmttEm7724Y
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>>68902093

>thought he was an insane whiny faggot who was imagining things
>mfw turns out he was right about everything and his wife was actually a complete fucking whore who cucked him

literally did nothing wrong
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>>68901438
This one seemed to be lacking any great point. Like, Brooker just got mad at criminals and decided to write an episode which has nothing but a child-killer getting tortured.
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>>68901877
Definitely, I thought it was the most relevant one, since we're recording more and more of our daily lives, which is really open to exploitation. It was a look at that trend taken to its extreme, and says a lot.
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>>68902433
>you could fucking feel middle class intellectual sneer through the screen at "the mob"
You missed the point.
It wasn't "the mob".
It was everyone.
Because it would fucking work.

It wasn't "Oh the plebs are so dumb for falling for shit shit".
It was about how entertainment is a priority and how politics is so fucked that people prefer a stupid meme to the real thing.
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>>68902499
>>68902335
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHjIXCCHh3s
>This
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>>68901438

I like that it shows how degenerate and oppressive the authorities actually are


>enslave everyone in underground gyms to power everything
>clone your consciousness and lock it in an egg, make you suffer 10,000 years of torment
>be able to access your fucking memories
>be able to block you from interacting with anyone forever over minor crimes
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>>68902589
>They upload as many clips from Made in Chelsea as possible but down't allow this
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>>68902465
>Seems like a massive waste of a taxpayer money too.
I think the point they made in the credit scenes was that it was for profit and making money. She was just a cash cow.
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>>68902567
>It was about how entertainment is a priority and how politics is so fucked that people prefer a stupid meme to the real thing.

I hate to sound like that guy but Waldo pretty sums up /r/The_Donald
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The energy they generated by cycling would not be enough to power the monitors in front of them.
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>>68902567

you've basically proven my point though, you think everyone is so dumb and brainwashed that they'd become so enthralled with a cartoon that it would take over the earth
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>mfw I just realized this show is called black mirror because it's holding up a mirror to society about the negative aspects of it
>mfw I'm a retard
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>>68901438
She's a publicly loathed child murderer. They continually wipe her memory to put her through a traumatic real-life video game she must survive, with everyone around her dying. At the end of the day, once she's made it through this gauntlet, the host reveals who she really is and then she's paraded around town while the despair sets in. Rinse and repeat. The whole thing is broadcast on TV as the sort of ultimate schadenfreude reality television. The implication is that basically all attempts to rehabilitate criminals have been thrown out in this future, and instead they are turned into pariahs to focus the public rage. On top of this, there's the question of who they're even punishing, since her memory has been wiped.
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>>68902742
It can be taken that way, but its mostly a reference to your phone.
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>>68902717
It wasn't about energy.
It was about control.
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>>68902717
Most likely they lived in a self-sustained Utopia where all their needs are created by robots anyways

The bikes just provided them with a sense of purpose
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>>68902742
Also, From what Brooker said, it's a screen acts as a black mirror when switched off
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>>68902589
>literally becomes Alex Jones at the end
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>>68902062
It was a pigs head, so it only counts as the same if you put you cock in his decapitated heads mouth
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>mfw 12 Million Merits was written by a Blue Peter presenter I used to watch as a kid
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>>68902829
>>68902778
Well that's stupid
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>>68902991
It means both things as well
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>>68902935
She also did a section about pissing at public urinals.

She changed after they tried to silence her.
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Did anyone first watched this show not knowing it was an Anthology Twilight Zone style show and thought the Pig Fucker hackers were actually a huge group and the series would be more about them and what they would do and the government trying to stop them
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>>68902991
How is that stupid? the show is mostly about the misuse of technology. It's relevant.
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>>68902829
BRA-FUCKING-VO
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>>68903052
It's kinda lame though.
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White Christmas > 15 Million Merits > The Entire History of You > Be Right Back > The Waldo Moment > White Bear > The National Anthem

all based as fuck tho
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>>68903068
ok
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>>68903073
I guess I should watch the Christmas episode
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>>68903068
>but y tho
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>>68901591
Read Foucault.
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>>68903035
But the "pig fucker hackers" was just one dude, and he killed himself in the episode..
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>>68903112
It's fucking good bro
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>>68903066
BM episode about waifu/2d culture when
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>>68903176
I knew that at the end of it but thought it was a bigger conspiracy and he was a patsy, only til the second episode I realized it was going to be anthology
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>>68902567
You can't say it wasn't about intellectuals sneering at the mob, and then immediately act like an intellectual and sneer at the mob.
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>>68903146
Cuz it's got these deep underlying messages every episode but the title is just
>black screen from phone kinda looks like black mirror
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>>68903356
It's subtle bro.
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>>68903356
Why are you having so much difficulty understanding that it can have multiple meanings? The fact that it has a literal meaning as a foundation for the metaphorical meaning makes it more elegant.
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>>68903491
Bitch, idgaf
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>>68903356
But the main theme of the show (at least, when it started) was the danger of technology and the media. The title is a double-en-tundra anyway - it references the black screens of phones and computers but also represents a dark mirror being held up to society.
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>>68902093
>>68902130

you know what I find fucked up, the technology helped him in a twisted way. He wouldn't have know otherwise.
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>>68903112
its pretty fucking traumatizing. Not in a violent or gory way but its one of the few times i've been genuinely affected by a tv show/movie.
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White Christmas was nightmarish on so many levels.
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>>68903521
Ya fuckin' pleb master
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>>68903068
>Black Mirror is about evolving technology being misused and the effects it could have
>The name comes from the fact then when your phone, computer, or television is turned off, in that moment of emptiness, all you see is the black mirror staring back at you
>This is stupid and lame
>But if it was called Black Mirror because it's like a mirror showing humans being dark that's like totes clever

Make like a tree and go fuck yourself.
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>>68903561

>tfw matt was murdered by vigilantes shortly after this scene
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>>68903574
No you go do that sucka
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>>68903636
pretty much, it does bring up the question of how do you even function as a member of society like that. The answer is of course you can't.

It's a quicker death than he deserved.
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Has anyone tried to map out the Black Mirror continuity?
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>>68901438
It's the worst one, wholly illogical premise.
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>>68903743
There isn't any really.
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The Waldo Moment was pretty great and actually pretty believable considering that Brazil voted a literal clown for congress a couple of years ago and he sill holds office.
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>>68903829
White Christmas has a bunch of references to other episodes. The Prime Minister from National Anthem is mentioned, someone has a Waldo username and the talent show from 15 Million Merits is on TV at one point.
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>>68903875
>Brazil
>not France

Do you even meme bro
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>>68903743

There isn't any, they tried to tie all the episodes together in White Christmas but I feel they shouldn't have tried, too many overlapping technologies.
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>>68902742
It's also a reference to scrying, which uses a black mirror to tell the future.
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>>68903743
National Anthem would be at the start of the timeline and 15 Million Merits would be at the end.
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>>68903073
I'm kind of torn on White Christmas because it borrowed the sci fi angle from the actual best episode, Entire History of You. But it was still creative with it, and it had Based Hamm, so I'll give it a pass.
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White Christmas was the best and also the most fucked up

the scene where the AI was willing to work in order to avoid being stuck living in an empty white eternity messed with my head the most
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Is this series worth it? Is it cringeworthy at all? The idea looks interesting
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>>68904045
It's a masterpiece
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>>68902093
>that part where he plays back the happy memories one final time before cutting it out
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>>68904045

It's among the best stuff that's been on /tv/ these last couple of years.
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>>68904045
>cringeworthy
Jesus Christ
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>>68904045
It is one of the best TV Shows out there.
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>Future Don will never live-coach you into picking up girls
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>>68902567
Replace "waldo" by "Trump" and you'll understand the episode
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>>68903901
those are easter eggs
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>>68903970
I picture White Christmas as set in the same world as TEHOY, but like 15 years further in the future. Brooker really expanded the concept introduced in History of You to build a whole world out of the way eye-cameras could blur the line between real life and social media. Actually, History of You was the only episode not written or co-written by Brooker, so I picture White Christmas as his more extreme take on the concepts presented in Jesse Armstrong's script
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>>68903970
And Rafe Spall.

Who would cheat on Rafe Spall with some Asian guy, anyway?
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>>68901591
>>68903174
Nah, don't waste your time on post-structuralist garbage.
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>watch your daughter for years just by her shape because her mother blocked you
>when the mother finally dies you finally go see your kid's face for the first time
>realize she cucked you with your asian best friend
fuck man
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>>68902687
>>68904287

If Trump ends up being Hillary's troyan horse for the Republican establishment I'll be pissed for what remains of my sentience.
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>>68901591
Read Kant
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>>68901438
It's okay to not get it, OP.
It was the only episode without cuckoldry after all.
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>>68903911
He's a very classic and average politician
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>>68901591
Read Aquinas
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>>68904378

WHY DIDNT THAT BITCH JUST SAY THAT THE BABY WASN'T HIS SO EVERYONE COULD JUST MOVE WITH THEIR LIVES FUCK
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>>68901591
Read Hume
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>>68904045
It's great but there are some cartoony elements your kind might consider cringeworthy.
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>>68901591
Read Hegel
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>>68904478
Bitches, man.
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>>68901591
Read David Irving
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>>68904378
Fucking tell me about it. I felt so bad for him.
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>>68904511
Read Montesquieu
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>>68904478
I don't think you've ever been a relationship, man
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>>68904478
Women, especially women who cheat on their men, rely on a very sturdy system of blinders to avoid culpability for their actions. The "block" system in White Christmas is a woman's wet dream. She doesn't have to face the truth of her actions, she can literally just put the unwanted man permanently out of sight and out of mind.
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>>68904478
By admitting she cucked Rafe she would have to cede the moral high ground. Blocking him allowed her to let him remain guilt-ridden and blame himself for the breakup while she could go on with her life like he never existed.
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>>68904643
>>68904701

But she pretty much isolated herself from everyone she knew but her father, what's the point of having the moral high ground and believing herself guilt ridden if she still left everything behind and has nothing to loose from coming clean.

Fuck.
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>>68901591
Read John Green
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>>68904378
>>68904478
>>68904643
>>68904701

THIS FUCKING SHOW GETS ME EVERYTIME, BUT I STILL WANT MOAR

when is the 3rd season coming out? or is it cancelled?
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>>68905065
It's going to be on Netflix. 12 episodes, apparently. Which kind of misses the fucking point.
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>>68905103
How does it miss the point
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>>68905103
I hope the quality of the show isn't ruined by this. I heard rumors along time ago, that it's an american remake. Which I hope to god isn't true.
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>>68905159
I forgot to say there are rumours about it having an overarching plotline. Which is the bit that misses the point.
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>GOAT Tier
Fifteen Million Merits
White Christmas

>Good Tier
Be Right Back
White Bear

>Okay Tier
The Entire History of You
The Waldo Moment

>Shit Tier
The National Anthem
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Waldo was the worst episode.
Literally worth the 3 minutes speech of the black guy from "The agency".
Worst acting, worst dialogue, worst story, worst conclusion, it just fell stupid
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>>68905433
>Okay Tier
>The Entire History of You
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>>68905473
this
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>>68902263
worst episode, nearly dropped the show
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>>68905473
I'm not a /pol/tard so it didn't affect me as much.
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>>68905917
Why would that matter? It was probably the most relevant episode, and showed the worst in people with the technology that doesn't seem entirely far from truth.
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>>68905962
Most episodes were equally relevant, even some of the ones set in the future like 15m Merits.
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>>68901591
Read bendis
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