>tfw Marvel will never ever produce a scene with this much impact
Alan Moore is one of the best
>>68901195
The next shot had a bigger impact.
>>68902240
Why did he make him violently explode? Couldn't he have put Rorschach to sleep, then stopped his heart? They were old friends, after all.
>>68902439
dr. Murder...bravo snyder...
>>68901195
Watchmen is crazy underrated in this regard.
>>68902439
I mean, does it matter? He still died instantly.
>>68901195
Literally ruined by the meme scream that followed.
"Tell me, doctor... What do you see?"
>>68902594
What's the problem with Patrick Wilson's "noooooo." I thought it was well done and sounded genuine.
>>68902594
>meme scream
?
>>68902635
A snow angel
>>68902594
That scream is probably one of the best in movie history. It sounded genuine as fuck.
Is this along with J.K Simmons as Jonah Jameson the GOAT capeshit casting
>>68901195
im not a fan of the watch men. i thought of it as off brand gen13 which was also a spoof on comic tropes
what was creepy mask guys powers? his mask changed its splotchy pattern but the movie never explains why or how or what his deal really is
>>68902982
i would say the comedian as well
>hack snyder fanboys actually believe this scene held 1/10th of the impact it had in the original
>>68902439
He didn't care. Dead is dead.
>>68903009
>i thought of it as off brand gen13 which was also a spoof on comic tropes
How the fuck does one come to this conclusion given Gen13 began publication in the 90s? Are you seriously calling Watchmen just a spoof on comic tropes when something as magnificent as Issue IV exists?
>what was creepy mask guys powers?
He didn't have any.
>his mask changed its splotchy pattern but the movie never explains why
Each panel in the comic his mask would be a different pattern, comes off as strange in the film.
>or what his deal really is
You just haven't seen the film his year. They have a whole scene where a psychologist talks to him for 20 minutes or so and explains his backstory.
>>68903009
no one in the watchmen has powers except doc manhattan
>>68903036
Didn't he learn to appreciate life at that point, though?
>>68903028
They have different interpretations, don't be daft.
>>68903180
Rawshark was going to destroy the peace. Dead is dead.
>>68901195
This had no impact whatsoever because the acting was terrible in this particular scene
When will capeshit fans realize that Watchmen is the only good capeshit they will ever have
CW and BvS tried so hard to be like Watchmen, only to fail
>>68903016
Everyone in the movie was pretty good except Ozymandias and Silk Spectre
the problem is they kept this from the comic but not the comics storyline so it makes less sense in the movie cause dr manhattan wasnt effected by the same previous events
>>68903348
i didnt like the original owl i thought of him as too fit but frewer was great as molock
>>68903309
The comic was good, sure. The movie really wasn't.
>>68903411
>>68903309
i think unbreakable is on par with watchmen
>>68901195
>>68902240
>>68902635
I think this was the only part where people in the theatre were actually watching it. Easily the best scene.
>>68903508
Why does saying that the movie is not good makes you a jew?
>awesome scene in comic
>Zack added le screaming man !! right after
jeez louise zack
>>68901195
>tfw snyder botched the impact of that scene.
I feel nothing but rage.
>>68903897
How so?
>>68903748
Again, what is wrong with Patrick Wilson's scream? I'm noticing a pattern here.
>>68904030
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlJuxpeTats
>>68904155
Yes, and Patrick Wilson's "no" is good. What was the point of that video.
>tfw it's all capeshit in the end so who cares
>>68904288
Watchmen is a wonderful bag of discussion regarding the ends justifying the means, empathy, and nihilism.
>>68902635
A pretty butterfly.
>>68902439
he was a good friend
>>68903217
Mind you don't cut yourself.
>>68901195
That's because they're busy quipping and making money while quipping
>>68903009
No one had any powers in Watchmen except Dr. Manhatten. You should definitely give it another watch, it's probably my favorite capeshit movie
thoughts on this? I liked Snyder's casting, honestly. Especially Rorschach.
>>68902635
CIA power pose
>>68905817
Snyders cast is overall best, but it seems like nobody knew how to cast Silk Spectre
>>68903028
what do you mean
>>68902915
Liked it as well, also just his general demeanor in the scene following with Ozymandias.
At first I really didn't like Patrick Wilson as an actor, but he is growing on me.
Was Watchmen made too early?
If somebody released almost a 3 hour capekino today it would earn billions
>>68901195
Comic was better.
>>68906147
at least in the movie night owl gave a shit, in the comics he was just fucking silk at the time
>>68904224
>>68904030
Nite Owl didnt even like Rosarch he would never scream like a little bitch over his "suicide by God" and absolutely would not fight Ozzy over it but Snyder is a fucking retard and he included another "super hero" fight anyway
>>68905916
Amy Adams would have been a good choice tbqh
>>68906182
see this
>>68906197
>>68906182
That was the point of his character. He was impotent sad mad who failed to live up to the name of Nite Owl.
>>68906147
it really isn't
that would have been shit in the movie it's so anti climactic
>>68906074
maybe. I like the overall movie we got but I can't help but think it would have been much more popular after Deadpool made R-rated superhero films financially popular. It's a shame Watchmen and Dredd didn't make more money.
>>68906147
I disagree. I think the actor did a wonderful job with that line.
>this thread
>MUH COMIX
>well without context to the co-
>MUH COMIXXX
>well no i felt it was good whe-
>MUH COMIXXXXXXXXXXXXX
if you need to point to the source material for why something is bad, then it isn't bad, you're just a redditor who wants literally everything in a less than available time frame, it's called an adaptation and should be judged separately
>>68902481
shit mate, he originally exploted on the movies, only thing snyder changed from comics was manhattan used as the destructive force and the prison rescue.
>>68901195
>Tfw Snyder won't either.
>>68902439
>Stripping apart the atoms in his body faster than his nervous system can recognize it
Sounds pretty peaceful to me, fampai.
>>68902240
How long did it take them to animate the lightshow before he explodes?
>>68906322
this isnt The Shinning or Starship Troopers anon Kubrick and Verhoeven knew why they were doing it while Snyder is a fucking hack that missed the point of the comic and probably still doesnt realize it because "it looks cool!"
>>68903411
How the fuck is it bad when it's a panel for panel adaptation? Have you seen 3 hours cut?
You're just saying it's bad because other redditors said it
>>68906322
The comic makes fun of capeshit. Zack Snyder didn't understand Watchmen so the film glorifies capeshit.
Watchmen Directors Cut has been pretty much unanimously ascribed as one of the best capeshit movies by many for the past 5 years
can we stop this fucking meme that its bad. Fucking MCucks will stop at nothing to prop their fucking wal-mart vision of cinema
>>68905817
>we will never get Terry Gilliams Watchmen adaptation
>instead we got a movie made by a rule of cool retard
>>68906575
>replying to someone from 2 hours ago to defend your mediocre movie
Movie Ending > Comic ending
>>68906726
do you not know how 4chan works?
>>68902439
Manhattan doesn't feel anything human, to him death is death.
>In spite of all I've heard, if the movie is weak, it is categorically NOT because of its faithfulness to the original. I found myself continually wondering if the adapters had completely understood the original. For example they retain the line "(Blake) saw the true face of the twentieth century and he chose to become a reflection, a parody, of it. No one else saw the joke" but they do not, as does the book, combine those words with the image of the Vietnamese woman bottling his face. They do show that in its proper place in Manhattan's memory, and the result is a gash in Blake's cheek. But the whole point of the act of violence was that it transformed the permanent expression on his face into a cruel sneer. Blake does not have this in the movie. Small things like this say a great deal symbolically. Blake has changed from the arrogant jocular chancer of his youth in the gaudy yellow clown suit, to the vicious cynic of a politically more complicated time. A similar amount of thought went into Rorschach's mask in the book: "Viscous fluids between two layers latex heat and pressure sensitive. Customer young girl, never collected order, said dress looked ugly. Wrong. Not ugly at all. Black and white, moving, changing shape. But not mixing. No gray." Then it turned out the woman who ordered the special dress was real life Kitty Genovese. I'll admit this is perhaps much too complicated for a film, but the business about 'black and white, no grey' says a huge amount in a very small space, and they didn't really get into Rorschach's world view in other ways. It would have made the mask a potent symbol and carried more weight than adding in the completely new action of him putting a cleaver in the child murderer's head four or five times, which is no more or less meaningful than all the other acts of violence.
>>68906783
>Then there is Rorschach's diary. In the book the diary has the first and last words. Perhaps a crucial scene has been eliminated, to be reinstated in the director's cut, in which we see him actually writing in the diary, or perhaps I just closed my eye and missed it. Otherwise his words exist only as a voice-over, so that when an actual book-diary turns up at the end, I was a little surprised. I had presumed from its absence that it was going to be one of things they were cutting out.
>Then there's all the violent stuff that has been added in, as I referred to above. In the movie version of the fight with Laurie and Dan in the alley with five thugs, we now see ten thugs and they are all brutally dealt with. One has his arm snapped in two by Dan, another gets stabbed in the throat by Laurie. I must say I was shocked. In other places, Dan is horrified at the violent acts of Rorschach breaking a thug's fingers to get info and The Comedian's violent dispersion of protesters; it makes no sense. And why do the thugs attack one at a time, apart from the cinematic need for each act of violence to be clearly outlined? In the book the point of the scene was to create an oddly humorous sexual frisson, as they lean back against the wall and the first thing she thinks of is to light a cigarette. You'd need to be a nut job to be up for humour after seeing the guy with the knife in his throat. More added violence in the attempt on Veidt's life. Not only his assistant as in the book, but now three politicos also, as Veitd ducks behind them in what looks like a cowardly maoneuvre. In the movies, meaning will always be secondary to spectacle, and the favourite spectacle of our miserable age is the spectacle of hurt.
>>68902982
This guy is so underrated, was great as Rorschach and even Freddy Krueger.
>>68906823
>And this movie is very spectacular, in many places, especially the sequence on Mars, and the owlship in flight and it is also, I would say, the best adaptation of Alan Moore to the big screen. But all through it I felt ill-at-ease. You know that feeling, when you have a visitor in your house and he's going around manhandling all your things.
>Eddie Campbell (From Hell)
>>68905817
Ozymandias was the only weak link on Snyder's cast. The actor just didn't have the look or the charisma.
They should've cast this dude, ideally.
It felt like "What if Frank Miller had made Watchmen instead of Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons"
Deleted scene where the original Night Owl gets murdered is fucking heart-wrenching.
Rorschach actor was so fucking good. The scene where he is arrested is literally the best in capeshit history.
>>68906197
>Nite Owl didnt even like Rosarch he would never scream like a little bitch over his "suicide by God" and absolutely would not fight Ozzy over it
Different interpretations are you so blinded by fanboyism to not accept different interpretations? I thought Nite Owl was well done, and him going back in to beat the shit out of Ozymandias, and Ozy LETTING himself get beaten up was very moving.
>>68907149
the cafeteria scene was fucking great too.
https://youtu.be/oAHwnaYrk0k
>>68906197
Liked him enough to rescue him from prison.
>>68907407
And work together for years.
>>68906520
>>68906676
>adaptations are only allowed to make changes if i like the changes
>MUH COMIXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
>>68906322
/thread
>tfw DC will never ever produce a scene with this much impact
https://youtu.be/hDMNsbSIc2o
https://youtu.be/6rCWBQQ9yAA
https://youtu.be/F0VM1lIMMtY
https://youtu.be/dI7SEIKaKwE
https://youtu.be/fbGIQech3_s
https://youtu.be/_44L4Ffff9w
https://youtu.be/rgFOKzsLQuo
https://youtu.be/u42zRlrBYbs
https://youtu.be/BRHF2Qb-C9U
https://youtu.be/WBUcY_cA71c
https://youtu.be/9cm1cEo8SKM
https://youtu.be/ouG3PqGxTmM
>>68908238
>takes the time to do this
>still makes shitty choices where the best ones aren't even marvel
ayy
>>68908238
>cool dance move, hold my hand
BRAVO
>>68908258
Better than screaming in front of the camera about a minute long.
>>68908238
look at the ass ravage on this marvelcuck
>>68908391
i havent seen any DC movie that did that
>>68902439
if you think about it from Manhattans POV he's still alive in the past. He experiences all time at once.
>>68908238
>mcuck doesn't realize more than half of those aren't made by Marvel
Fucking degenerate holocaust denying mcucks are the bane of this board
>>68906575
>panel for panel adaptation
are you literally retarded or is this bait?
Have yall watched the motion comic
Talk about kino! I would say its a level above kino!
Alright, I would say that, if not of course for the very obvious flaw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stKh-TQxHLw
6 hours of kino!
>>68908238
>half of these are Raimi Spider-man
>less than half are Marvel
>all the Marvel ones are bad
>>68908519
>Marvel are holocaust deniers now
I can't even tell if youre joking because of how batshit delusional the people that post here are now
>>68908602
marvel fans are all leftist cucks m8
>>68906575
I was here when it was in theaters. Almost everyone hated it for how it was butchered. Reddit actually likes it. I'm not even gonna get started on the ending because I don't feel like having that discussion for the 200th time
>>68908553
this is pretty neat. thanks for posting this anon, I didn't know about it.
>>68906322
Reddit likes the changes and Snyder you dumb cunt. He completely missed the point of the comic and completely butchered the themes and subtext with his retarded changes to appeal to mass audiences.
>>68908645
like I was saying
>Batshit delusional
I can't even begin to comprehend how you managed to connect those too other than you don't like either of them.
>>68908650
>>68908707
how would you know?
>>68908756
I'm saying it was obviously tongue in cheek you illiterate.
>>68908756
>marvel fan too stupid to know the difference between too and two
>>68903150
>>68905768
What about the world's smartest man? That guy was so smart, he could literally Dodge bullets. Surely that level of genius counts as a superpower
>>68901195
You're locke in here with me!
I recited this monolougue verbatim for last year's christmas dinner. Lol u should have seen the look on my old man's face. He was seriously miffed.
>Men get arrested, Dogs get put down.
BASED
A
S
E
D
>>68908602
Fucking try to prove otherwise
>>68908602
>delusional
Now that is just a thought for too minds to much comprehend.
- Zack Znyder, visionary diector/story teller.
>>68901195
i've never seen this movie. is it good? how does it compare to the other comic movies?
>>68909550
*rEddit Three syllables.
>>68901195
>tfw neither will DC
>>68902240
>oh, I remember that bit, it was awesome
>now all I can see is the hat flying up and I can't stop laughing
Zack Snyder does some amazing shots. He should in no way be given more authority than DP though. Ever.
>>68909586
Imagine if Kubrick and Scorseses had a child, and said child was beaten in to submission and forced to attend sunday school. And then Lobotomized. You get he bit, no doubt. It's not a very good movie. It's not a very good bit, either, I guess. Fiting, in a way.
>>68909663
we both know you loved the world engine destroying scene.
>>68909586
Easily the best of them all, ignore this guy: >>68909725
>>68909586
fucking GOAT
>>68906197
>Nite Owl didnt even like Rosarch
>pretending to be an authority on the comic
>clearly didn't read it
>>68909885
You should watch this movie if you enjoy loud noices and hate characterization and coherent plots.
If a comprehensive narrative and editing makes you shit your pants in anger, look no further. This is the movie you've been waiting for.
>>68910415
ignore the redditor
>>68910415
>comprehensive narrative and editing
You couldn't follow what was going on?
Seriously?
Or are you using grown up words to try and sound profound and academic?
>>68902635
Bane?
>>68910472
Also ignore every critic ever and the audience score and your own sensibilities.
It really is a challenging movie. Some have described it as "cumbersome" or "taxing". "Horrible", even. It's great, if you hate cinema and the cinematic experience and life it self. If you are planning to kill your self, watchng BvS will not sway you in one way or the other.
>>68908238
>>68910536
It's not so bad. All you have to do is read three or four runs of Batman and/or Flash comics, and then you are equipped enough to dig into the various fan theories. In 6 months or whatever, Zack Snyder will release his commentary track, telling us all how we should feel ahout the movie. It's gonna be great.
>>68910819
You know this thread's about Watchmen, right?
>>68908258
>>68908457
>>68908519
>>68908601
the cap ones are goat you filthy plebs
>>68910970
they arent
>>68908238
Marvel makes the finest capekino, yes
>>68905534
From my point of view blue big guy is evil
>>68907245
Sooo fucking epic. I repeate these lines in my head evey day before I go to school.
"You are locked in here with me, Chad! Mum will be miffed!"
>>68911084
yeah it is, better than anything hack snyder will ever produce
>>68908238
All the emotional impact of a plate of spilled spaghetti.
It's like someone desperately trying to work an emotional moment into a big budget sfx movie over and over, and attaining "meets expected" every time.
>>68911218
if you pretend 300, DotD, Guardians, MoS, and Watchmen dont exist then maybe
>>68905817
Greengrass cast though... i'm curious as to who he would've gotten to round out the cast. Perlman and Law and 10/10 choices.
>>68909586
pretty good, honestly hard to believe it was made by hack snyder
>>68906936
i would have gone with this guy
but thats cause in my version he blows up the ship with the fake alien makers like in the comic
>>68911250
Or Sucker Punch. Truly, one of the modern masterpieceses of modern enema. I mean Cinema.
>>68911592
>im going to say you like a shit movie to discredit you
>>68909702
HAHAHAHA YOU DICK
ruined that scene for me forever
>>68911628
Well, in my defence: Sucker Punch (written and directed by Zack Snyder)
>>68903842
>nor arguments: the /pol/ post
Kek.
>>68901195
>tfw neither will DC
>>68905817
Juden Law would have been a better Ozy. Fucking dude has a speech impediment.
Pearlman Comedian woulda been a pretty hot tycket
>>68901195
>tfw you're attributing impact to that scene because you're a mouthbreather
Why did Snyder even add nite owl to that scene? What the fuck was he thinking? How can one retard ruin so many characters in one movie?
>redditors actually believe this is a decent transposition
>they know so little about cinema they call watchmen an "adaptation" despite that term being practically nonsensical.
Yikes, fucking infants.
>>68913381
back to redddit faggot
>>68913443
If you enjoy Snyder's tripe you'd fit right in there fucking closeted redditor.
>>68913486
I hate Snyder. I just hate reddditor faggots that come to /tv/ and talk about redddit. Fuck off back from whence you came you memey fuck.
>>68908509
I thought he experienced reality in the present (tried to), but he saw time in the 4th dimension
