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Marvel's toxic influence on the DCEU
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First of all let me start out by saying that BvS is in my opinion a masterpiece. Now to the average moviegoer I can understand why they would come away thinking it was bad. The film is highly kinetic and allegorical. You're supposed to think beyond the images presented on the screen. For example, the scene in which Lex presents the jar of piss to the Senator represents so much more than what is on screen. The jar of piss is Lex's vision of Superman. It has been dressed up as "Granny's Peach Tea" just as Superman has been packaged as an All-American symbol of freedom and justice. But beneath the veneer it smells of piss. But to the average moviegoer, they will look at this scene and say "HAHA! PISS BOTTLES EWWWW" with no regard for the greater motivations and images portrayed in this character drama.

Now, the reason I am worried is because WB now believes that this type of intellectually stimulating and philosophically moving cinematography is not appreciated by the masses. The masses want quips, explosions, smart-alecks, jock, stereotypes, punchy punchy boom boom. The masses can't comprehend Snyder's masterfully crafted Biblical symbolism.

The masses want Marvel.

And this wouldn't be a problem, since this is a consumer market. I can choose to buy my authentic imported biscotti instead of that artificial Oreo's nonsense. But the problem is if the biscotti manufacturers suddenly looked at Oreo's sales and said "hey, we need to start pumping our biscotti full of garbage artificial cream!"
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>>68892751
Now that Civil War has a 100% RT score (no thanks in large part due to corrupt critics taking that Disney dollar) WB is shifting its DCEU to ape the candyfloss Marvel universe. This is exactly what is happening with Suicide Squad right now, with the reshoots. And this is likely what will happen to the DCEU after Justice League. Thank God at least Zack will be able to do another masterpiece before WB backstabs him. And what we'll be left with are inferior mass market appeal movies designed to chase after the Marvel audience and failing.

I'm sick of it. We've been robbed of tremendous potential. All to movies designed to sell toys and make children laugh. It's pathetic.

Who's with me?
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I just like how they cut on the childish jokes every 2min unlike marvel movies.
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>>68892751
I wish I could downvote you capeshits to hell with my bots
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>>68892983

lmao have you seen civil war yet you faggot
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>Zack Snyder
>good
>Disney pays off critics
>Warner Bros. owns Rotten Tomatoes
(You)
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>>68892751
All capeshit sucks, but BvS is as we already know a capekino
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It's pasta, like every other Snyderbot thread
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>>68892751
>to the average movie goer

You are the average movie goer and BvS is just another average action movie.
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>>68892751
Instead bleeding your asshole all over /tv/ why don't you just go back to your prayer circle?
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>>68892751
>another DC Damage control thread
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>>68892751
>>68892983
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>>68892751
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>>68894142
HOO HOO NO NO NO NO
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>>68892983
>corrupt critics taking that Disney dollar

See, the conspiracy nonsense just doesn't make you sound like you're right. It makes you sound like a delusional fanboy.
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>>68894142
There are people who roleplay as theists outside of /pol/?
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>Tfw an hour and a half in and i still have an hour left of this tripe to finish
FUCKING END ALREADY
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>>68892751
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VCgniXTG3w
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>>68892751
How long does the denial stage last?
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>>68894244
LOOK AT THE TOP OF HIS HEAD
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>>68894142
>dat pic
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LOOK AT THIS DEWD
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>>68892983
>corrupt critics taking that Disney dollar

I fucking love /tv/ right now. This DCcuck asspain is fucking beautiful. From the people claiming that MoS shot of Superman's head next to Jesus actually had deeper meaning and Synder not just being a hack, to this conspiracy shit about paid critics.
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>>68894423
>this video
I've watched it about 90 times. The fucking laughter is contagious.
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>>68894263
>implying they aren't delusional fanboys
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>>68894336
>Cranston offered to play Lex
That's a joke right?
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>>68892751
>>68892983
uhh... JUST
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>>68892983
>its okay when wb makes movies designed to sell tots and games
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>>68892751
>masterpiece
>piss bottle
>intellectually stimulating and philosophically moving

just because a piss bottle doesn't mean literally "i just peed on your bottle!" doesn't mean it's a deep and thought provoking phillosophical dilema or something. You sound like you're 13 and you never seen a real movie or read a fucking book.

I hope you're a marvel fanboy baiting
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>>68892751
>thinking lex is a good character.
He just reprised his roll in the social network with quips and autism.
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>>68894455
oo hoo hoo wait till you see the
whoo hoo hoo no no no no
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>>68892983
I'm with you, my friend.
I don't even mind marvel movies too much. They are pre-packaged and mostly not too original, but "fun". What I really hate is all the hype around every marvel movie as if they were master pieces. They are Ok flicks, that's it.
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>>68894690
you've never been on /tv/ have you?
That's a hardcore dc fanboy that believes his movie wasnt the problem but disney and paid off critics have this conspiracy against snyder and wb.
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>>68894590
>that's a joke?

You mean the head of DC isn't that fat Mexican? FUCK! CALL THE NEWPAPERS!
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>>68892751
>>68892983
JUST
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>this thread
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>>68892751
comon, it is obvious that RT was payed off at this point, but to implicate that BvS was a masterpiece is going a bit too far.

The movie is certainly not bad, but its not goty. Its somewhere at 7/10 to 8/10 in my opinion. It was definitely worth the movie ticket.

From the trailers however, I expect civil war to be worse than this though. Seeing as how they bribed RT, I think that it must be worse if they do not dare to face competition openly.

So in a way, their bribe already negatively shaped the opinion of civil war. Nice going there disney.
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>>68895021

KEK

delusional ramblings of a DCuck
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>>68895126
I am not even into all of this, just saying, the movie was enjoyable enough.
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>>68892751
THE WORLD IS INTRODUCED TO THE ZACK SNYDER

You are a smart individual. I Invite you to join us in intellectual discussion of the themes of the movies in this thread. We are very close the unlock the mysteries of the Zack.

>>>68879234
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>>68892983
>Now that Civil War has a 100% RT score
Thankfully it's been obliterated and is now at an embarrassing 92%, our prayer circles worked! Marvel studios is doomed!
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I know this is bait, obviously. I just wanted to point out that even the sarcastic people that makes pasta about over-analyzed deeper symbolism and non-existent "foreshadowing " in DC movies, specifically the new shared universe ones, should agree that those elements don't work in narrative films if there is no consistent plot, character motivations are vague at best and only tenuous connections and spontaneous plot turns keep the narrative thread going between wild changes of context as exemplified by said movies.
While I agree there are films where these elements are not as important this clearly is not the case, as the explicit purpose of this franchise, of this studio of this director, etc is to tell a story. These are bad movies simply because they fail to tell an interesting history at their core, even if all other supposedly highbrow elements were actually there, the movies still fall short of their goal. With all its cliches and simplicity the MCU has triumphed because it tells a mostly consistent history and has interesting and/or well understood characters.
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MARVEL BLOWN THE FUCK OUT
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