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>>68883315
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>>68886099
first for ellie
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>>68886099
is that Benjen with glamdring?
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First for darkstar
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>>68886135
It's Daario Naharis with Blackfyre.
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>>68886135
No its Aragorn with Ice
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>>68886119
Yes, that Littlefinger had already made some plans before we join the story is a given. I wonder if the show is ever going to link up with what he's doing in The Vale in the books.
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top 10 for CIA
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>>68886098

Fact is that House Stark remains a rallying point for Northern lords even long after it was crushed and its line almost extinguished. Would the Lannisters be able to command such loyalty from beyond the grave? I doubt it. This is also the case for Dorne, Targs, and strangely enough for the Ironborn too, who have an unmistakable ethnic component in their political identity and maintain strong esprit de corps.
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Can someone explain the politics of GoT

Ok so its basically nobles securing alliances with eachother by political marriage but whats the actual point?

Baratheon fucks Lannister creating an alliance with Baratheon and Lannister. Lannister fucks Stark creating a Lannister Stark alliance.

I dont understand whats the actual fucking point of these alliances if the only real country is the King's Landing while the areas under control of Lords are just outside territories under its dominion?
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anyone have that old /got/ oc with the hound and arya "quality time"? Anyone?
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>>68886135
No it's Littlefinger's father with Heartsbane.
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>>68886135
Show Benjen looks exactly like book Ned
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>>68886099

Who sparrow here?
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>>68886222
where did i see this guy?
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>>68886203
MUH THRONE

MUH WALL

MUH FAMILY

summed up the show right here
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>>68886203
Depends. Each house and political faction has its own endgame.

>I dont understand whats the actual fucking point of these alliances if the only real country is the King's Landing while the areas under control of Lords are just outside territories under its dominion?
KL is the capital of the realm, and like in every feudal country the relations between the monarch and his/her vassals are somewhat fuzzy and bilateral.
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>Roose Bolton
>Ramsey Bolton
>Black Walder Frey
>White Walkers
>Child slaughtering slave masters
>Aerys Targaryen
>Rorge
>Biter

Reminder that ASOIAF is full of balanced, well written characters.
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>>68886203

The Seven Kingdoms are decentralised.
The vassals of the crown are all powerful in their own right and can still have conflicts with each other. For that alliances are helpful.

It's how feudalism worked.
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>>68886222
Me
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>>68886240
Yes but the politics makes no sense, most european kingdoms had guys running the villages or towns outside the capital that had no political marriage connectiions at all.

It would make sense if the kingdoms were countries but even then we now the alliance is only temporary until one fucks the other over.

Like Stark/Lannister is the physical proof of an alliance between them.
>>68886290
So the point of alliance is finding suckers to back you up when your shit gets pressed in and they use marriage as a physical form of contract then? Wow thats retarded.
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>>68886296
this scene was SO satisfying
>AM THE QUEEN
no you're not kek
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>>68886200
Because they know that House Stark owes their houses - or the houses of their allies - favours, and probably because people have sentimental feelings towards ancient houses and lords. The Starks still achieved and maintain power through wealth and influence of various kinds.

I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to argue here.
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Why can't we get armor like this in the show?
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>>68886232

Check your basement for chained up women
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>>68886222
Do you think he just saw the re-arming of the faith militant as a way to gain power or do you think his faith in the seven is truly pure?
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>>68886322
>So the point of alliance is finding suckers to back you up when your shit gets pressed in and they use marriage as a physical form of contract then? Wow thats retarded.

It's also for putting pressure on other people.
Marriage secures alliances, because it joins parties by blood.

Did you not have history at school at all?
It was a very common concept from Europe to Asia.
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Who are the WW2 figures of ASOIAF?
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very medieval gloves
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Reminder these retards literally cant read
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>>68886364
i did and couldnt find him
there's only a malnourished pregnant woman with blood leaking from her vag who looks vaguely like him
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>>68886232
Brazil? Adventures of Baron Munchausen? Jonathan Pryce has been around for a bit.
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>̶T̶̶u̶̶n̶̶n̶̶e̶̶l̶ Sand Snakes rules!

Hiss with me sisters!
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Why aren't you guys watching good shows?
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>>68886398
what's needle in the book?
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>>68886398
"wait, sam is a pov character?" - David Benioff, showrunner of Game of Thrones
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>>68886380
So a unified kingdom would render all of this pointless though?

The fact the ruling family of the kingdom can be changed by various nobility is a bad thing its needs to be more fixed in place because it makes it hard to actually try to get rid of any opposition to the crown really.

I mean you go from Baratheon to Lannister now to Tyrell its a clusterfuck when it comes to how the iron throne is ran.
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>>68886341
Even if they assume their relative position would be somewhat improved under a restored Stark rule, sure it does not mean risking their own lives and sacrificing perhaps every sliver of influence they have in the current system is a beneficial gamble only because of it. Call it "sentimental feelings" if you want or call it their way of life, but this is the type of influence the old Starks command, and which is probably absent from other houses (namely Lannisters).

>I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to argue here.
Really?
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>>68886200
Lannisters? Of course they would. If you read the books and saw Season 1, they command extreme loyalty of the Westerlands lords. Thing is though they won't follow a utter retard like Cersei, but they will follow Jaime when he's inevitably released from his Kingsguard vows and made King of the Rock.
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>>68886362
This is why GoT would be better as a well produced cartoon series for adults (or even animu) than with real actors. Robert Baratheon in the show was neither the beast he was supposed to be in the books.
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>>68886429
>Brazil
Yes! Thank you very much
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>>68886439
>Needle was Robb and Bran and Rickon, her mother and her father, even Sansa. Needle was Winterfell's grey walls, and the laughter of its people. Needle was the summer snows, Old Nan's stories, the heart tree with its red leaves and scary face, the warm earthy smell of the glass gardens, the sound of the north wind rattling the shutters of her room. Needle was Jon Snow's smile. He used to mess my hair and call me "little sister," she remembered, and suddenly there were tears in her eyes.
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>>68886438
Because they're all off until next season and The Americans is only on once a week.

>tfw no Better Call Saul
>tfw no Fargo
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>>68886439
It's LITERALLY a needle. Based D&D fixed it in the show so it didn't look so retarded, but yeah, Arya literally killed people with an above-size sewing needle.
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>>68886453
For some reason I have a feeling the Lannisters of Casterly Rock will be wiped out, leaving the Lannisters of Lannisport to take their place.

Who's left? Lancel, Jaime, Cersei, Tommen, Myrcella, Martyn and Genna? All of them are very likely to die by the end of the series, can't see one of them surviving
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>>68886465
>cartoon series
>for adults

anon.
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>>68886470
oh ok i get it
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>>68886447
It's still Baratheon. Just Lannisters and Tyrells have influence over the reigning Baratheon monarch.
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>>68886484
Why didn't she hide it in her ass from the faceless man then?
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>>68886492
Prejudices.
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>>68886495
It should stay Baratheon FOREVER the last name of a monarch changing constantly is worse than an elective republic honestly.
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>>68886377

I think he's the real deal, just a matter of time before the sparrows go full ISIS.
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>>68886485
Yeah Tywin's line is doomed. Kevan's line (Lannisport Lannisters) is likely to continue, or someone else's. Thing about Lannisters is that there's a shitload of them.
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>>68886438
>Leftovers isn't on atm
>Fargo isn't on atm
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>>68886453
House Lannister had to quell a major (possibly critical) uprising during the Reyne affair, while the North haven't had a serious uprising or secession despite being a considerably larger piece of land (which means everything in terms of ability to exert centralized authority). Also nowhere is it implied people have any specific loyalty to Cersei, who surrounds herself with older generation Lannisters like Kevan (until recently anyway).
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>>68886450
>Really?
Yes, really.
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>>68886447

A unified kingdom inhibits it but doesn't stop it.
The relationship between rulers and their vassals is very complex and con be from very loose to very strict.

A large kingdom like that would naturally be more decentralised and thus prone to internal conflicts.
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>>68886441
Did the same with Stannis saying he wants to be king because of a divine power when he literally spells out why.
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>>68886536
But it has stayed. Tommen's name hasn't changed.

He's still known as Tommen Baratheon. Until someone can prove otherwise, and the only one that was able to is dead, so Tommen is legitimately the head of House Baratheon.
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>>68886549
And now?
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So, what will happen next episode?
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>>68886484
No. It's just a small, thin sword - as it is in the show. What the fuck are you talking about?
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>>68886485
>Myrcella
Got some bad news for you, famalam
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>>68886538
Kevan's line is a goner I think, the only one that may survive is the little girl who's name I forget
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>>68886495
>>68886447

Well to be fair the 300~ years pre-Bobby B's rebellion the ruling family was Targaryen, but having the craziest dipshits from a family rule a country only because their daddy did before them sounds as crazy to me as seizing the throne by conquest/scheming.
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>>68886538
Kevan is also a Casterley Rock Lannister. Unless they changed that in the show.
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>>68886570
I'll consider this the end of the discussion, since you have nothing to say.
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>>68886545
The North is s a frozen shithole why the fuck do people even want it so much?
>>68886565
Oh right but the royal family changes constantly though.
>>68886588
Well Dany is a crazy bitch
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>>68886577
bran flashback seeing hodor ned benjen lyanna

some time with the zombie mountain

that's all
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>>68886584
I was going by the book.

In the show it's even less considering both Willem AND Martyn were killed by Karstark and Tywin didn't seem to have any siblings apart from Kevan
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>>68886556
why did he kill his brother renly then?
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>>68886381
Hitler: King Aerys
Churchill: Jon Arryn
Roosevelt: Tywin Lannister
Hirohito: Balon/Euron
Stalin: Littlefinger
Mussolini: idk, Dany? Stannis?
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>>68886613
>Even if they assume their relative position would be somewhat improved under a restored Stark rule, sure it does not mean risking their own lives and sacrificing perhaps every sliver of influence they have in the current system is a beneficial gamble only because of it. Call it "sentimental feelings" if you want or call it their way of life, but this is the type of influence the old Starks command, and which is probably absent from other houses (namely Lannisters).
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>>68886600
Kevan is Tywin's brother in the show as well, so I assume he's a Casterly Rock Lannister.
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>Promise me, Ned.

Guess who(Hint: 4 actresses and 1 actor)
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>>68886538
>>68886585

Kevan's line is not from Lannisport and he still has a living son too who is about 13 or 14 I think.
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>>68886633
>Hitler
>Aerys
Oh look at hurr Nazis was evil monsters retard, plz Hitler wasnt enough close to the level of batshit mad Aerys was.
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>>68886447
>So a unified kingdom would render all of this pointless though?

This is what happened in Europe at the end of the feudal period, kings had more power, the cities, who where kind of independent in the feudal system began getting rich with commerce, the armies started going professional with citizen militas evolving into standing armies instead of feudal levies, and vassals became less and less powerful.
The kings depended less on vassals and in the end vassal titles became attached to other political positions.
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>>68886652
jennifer connelly
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>>68886657
Martyn in the books, in the show he died with his older brother Not!Tommen
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>>68886626
Because Renly was a traitor who was planning on killing Stannis first.
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>>68886626
>by FAR the biggest region
>at least two major ports
>huge strategic value
>The Wall and NW, which is always good to have on your side
Also not all of it is frozen 100% of the time.
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>>68886677
So why must KL make alliances with parts of its country?
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>>68886545
That's what I said though. The Lannister name matters and is followed up, Tywin's dad fucked over the Lannister name that's why there was a rebellion. It's also why I said that Cersei herself is largely seen is shit and will no doubt be replaced by the end of this.

>>68886600
Yeah, my mistake. So who's next after Kevan and Tywin's lines? Devan, I think?

>>68886617
>Oh right but the royal family changes constantly though.

The royal house of Baratheon included Joffrey, Tommen, Stannis, Renly, Myrcella. In that order. Right now it's just Tommen left. Still hasn't changed.
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>>68886657
Lancel Lannister is Kevan's son and he's part of the faith militant now.
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>>68886687
Meant for >>68886617
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>>68886621
>Euron killing Balon
>Wildlings helping Davos and the rest
>Possibly Jon being revived

>That's all
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>>68886669
oh yeah sorry Adolf Hitler was totally Ned Stark
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>yfw by the end of the book the only Great house left alive is the Starks

(Lannisport Lannisters and Other Tyrell branches dont count)
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>>68886652
>arya
>sansa
>jon snow
>dany
>Cat / meera
?
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>>68886719
He was more a Stannis type of guy.
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>>68886377
They'll turn him into a toddler-fucking pedophile to spite the christians and get a few more tumblr points
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>>68886679

Oh right, I forgot that they killed him in the show.

>>68886702

Yes but he won't continue the family now.
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Alys Karstark is the best book-only waifu
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>>68886696
Westeros isn't one country. It's the Westerlands, North, Riverlands, Vale, Stormlands, Dorne, Reach, Iron Islands. All separate countries with their own cultures that were previously united by the firepower of dragons through force. Since the Targs and their dragons are gone the only thing keeping them together is these familial alliances.
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>>68886715
jon snow is revived in ep 3

screen this
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>>68886700
>That's what I said though. The Lannister name matters and is followed up, Tywin's dad fucked over the Lannister name that's why there was a rebellion. It's also why I said that Cersei herself is largely seen is shit and will no doubt be replaced by the end of this.
But it's not the Lannister name per se, it's the house as an active thing. Picture this: Westerlands are invaded tomorrow by Ironborn, CR is occupied and all OG Lannisters are executed. Will Westerlands lords be uniting to restore the lion banner in the name of Cersei (or even Tywin)? Or will each be doing their own shit and try to grab as much as possible in the pandemonium?
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>>68886761
I'm curious how that subplot will go, it'd be interesting for the North to have a Widling lord by the end
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>>68886761
didn't she marry a frozen nigger?
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>>68886438
that finale has to be the worst since dexter
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>>68886786
He could be revived in ep 4 / 5 as well.
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>>68886740
Does that make Davos Goebbels? That'd be pretty bodacious.
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>>68886538
There's always the chance one of Tyrion's bastards gets legitimised.

Actually, that's a fairly large weakness in the writing of Tyrion's character. Considering all of the whores he has fucked over the years, at least one would claim to have given him a son to get some Lannister gold.
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>>68886771
But why the familial alliances and not just trade agreements?

Why were the Lannisters so scared of Winterfell becoming independent what the actual fuck do they actually get from that craphole anyway?
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>>68886802
>he doesn't like epilogues
>only wants the climax
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>>68886362
>puting autistic horns on your helm
enjoy being decapitated
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>>68886811
But anon, Tyrion is a Targ :^)
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>>68886099
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>>68886545
Well actually the Skagosi united and rebelled during King Daeron II Targaryen's reign.
It's not explicitly stated how long it lasted, but it lasted for years and apparently claimed the lives of thousands, as well as Barthogan Stark
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>>68886789
Under Tywin yes, he's seen as a fucking legend in the Westerlands. Shield of Lannisport and so on, he's considered a hero to many of them.
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>>68886207
I have it
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>>68886626
One he didnt directly partake in that Melly did that her self he realised this later where hes regretful and two he committed treason
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>>68886556
The only one and rightful king of the Seven Kingdoms, Stannis the Mannis.

It's distasteful that there are people stupid enough to deny it.
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>>68886811
What whores has Tyrion fucked in the books? Tysha (fucked off to wherever whores go) and Shae (dead). For as much as he talks about whoring and that retarded intro in the show where he's having an orgy he's not really as lusty as all that.
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>>68886858
then post it pls
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>>68886232
POTC
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>>68886799

You mean: didn't she marry a 6"4' tall muscular bronze armored dude who is as close culturally to original first men as you can be and is viewed as a god by his people and will kick Arnolf's deceiving ass out of Karhold
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>>68886837
There's more chance of Jon Snow's mother literally being Ashara Dayne.
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>>68886811
Maybe the power trio are all barren?

>Dany is obvious
>Jon didn't knock ygritte up
>Your example.
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>>68886813
Not the guy you're talking to, but he seems to be leaving out information.

The individual kingdoms tended to marry their vassals and not look outside their borders. It's only the generation that are the focus of the books that the Great Houses began intermarrying and that's because the theory is they were trying to ally to force the Absolute Monarchy that the Targaryen's implemented into a Constitutional Monarchy with more freedoms for themselves.
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>>68886832
No, I mean turning hanzee into tripoli, what the hell was that

Tripoli was a 6'3" tall fat jewish gangster in season 1 while hanzee was 5'6" at best and looked nothing like him
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>>68886868
Why do people even give a shit about the Iron Throne in the first place? You would think Winterfags like Ned would be more concerned about the living conditions in their terrirtory over some stupid royal glory.
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>>68886883
>Tysha
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>>68886556
>The Lannister woman gave him horns
what did he mean by this?
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>>68886911
Ned doesn't really care about it. He only went to serve as Hand because he and Bobby go a long way back. You should read A Game of Thrones, it's a decent book.
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>>68886930
cheated on him
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>>68886837
Even if he was, his mother's still Lannister.
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>>68886908
but that tripoli guy is just a front! hanzee runs the operation from the shadows!

r-right..?
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>>68886930
Read Othello and find out.
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>>68886930
Giving horns (or antlers) is a common saying / sign that the man who the horns/antlers belong to is cucked (wife cheating on you). I think GRRM confirmed it's the reason why he gave the Baratheons the (antlered) stag as a symbol.
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Where the humans with magic powers in this show dammit.
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>>68886957
That's not what the directors said
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>>68886761
Asha.
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Here's a question: why didn't Tywin remarry? He wasn't very old when Joanna died and he absolutely understood the value of strategic alliances. Was it really all about sentimentality?
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>>68886203
Spot the american who never had a history lesson that touched pre-17th century
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>>68886930
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>>68886740
Joffrey
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>>68886972
Are you impying Mel and Thoros aren't human?
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>>68886989
it's pretty weird considering he wanted cersie to remarry
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>>68886362
Cool but impractical as fuck.
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>>68886556
>>68886930
Funny thing about it is that during the War of the Five Kings with dwarves thing Joffrey had going, dwarf Joffrey was riding a lion with horns. It's like poetry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImkVFnvOEvo&spfreload=1
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>>68887000
Joffrey doesnt have the intelligence to figure out to how kill 6 million jews in under a year.
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>>68886989
because a candle can only replace the sun when it sets inside four walls
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>>68886989
Surprise, Tywin was an hypocrite
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>>68886904
>Power Trio
This won't happen it's too much of a cliche.
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>>68886889
Jokes I don't really haha you fell for one hella epic trolla
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>>68887018
He wanted Cersei to re marry to quash the rumours of her fucking her own brother, and nothing more.
She's rejected by multiple (IIRC) lords due to her being old and having borne too many children all ready.
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>>68886989

Because he was a massive hypocrite in that regard as well.
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>>68887046
I knew it, I haven't seen that oc since.... last season. Fuck.
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>>68886719
>>68886633

>Hitler
>a bad person

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDLyKSYRqXM
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Westeros needs a dictator honestly to fix their shit like Daenerys.
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>>68887056
It's weird they don't stress this in the show, considering how they overplay the "stronk independent single mom" bit.
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>>68887033
>>68887060
This but I thought there was a brief mention in the show where he was considering remarrying.
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>>68887063
Not who you were replying too but I think I have it somewhere
I'll dig it out
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>>68887067
time for some naziposting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUyDcGSMPEQ
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>>68887074
By the time she sets foot in Westeros (if and when) she'll be Mad King-tier crazy.
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>>68886799
The Thenn are very different in the books than they are on the show. In the books they're one the more civilized groups of wildlings,

>The Thenn consider themselves the last of the First Men. They speak the Old Tongue and most have only a few words of the Common Tongue.[1] They are led by the Magnar, who is considered more a god than a man by his people.[2] Because they have laws and lords in their valley, some consider the Thenns more sophisticated than other free folk and closer to the people south of the Wall. They have more dealings with giants than other men.[3]

>The Thenns are savage fighters, but because of their belief in the Magnar as their god they are absolutely obedient and more disciplined than other free folk. They are often better equipped than most free folk, with bronze helms, axes of bronze and a few of chipped stone, short stabbing spears with leaf-shaped heads, shirts sewn with bronze discs, and plain unadorned shields of black boiled leather with bronze rims and bosses.[1]
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>>68887083
ok never mind

found it

best oc 10/10
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How can you tell whats magic and whats not in world where magic exists. I mean why arent dragons considered magic and not just another animal. sure, a very powerful animal , but not different from any other animals.
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>>68886971

Robert wears an antlered helmet by his own choice. Hah! What a cuck!
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>>68886756

You're a fucking idiot.
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>>68887103
*why ARE dragons considered magic ...
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>>68886232
>"Bad news can also be (shakespearean pause) good news, yes?"

I hated that fucking movie
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>>68887103
Probability. Dragons weren't seen in ages and aeons.
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>>68887098
>we waz first men and womyn and shiiiiet

This is what Thenn nigs believe.
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>>68887103

Because the Valyrians used blood magic to tame and breed them.
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>>68886740
Hah, nice maymay
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>>68887096
Shes fix all of this crap by destroying everything

No more King's Landing
No more Houses
No more cultural differences

All will be assimilated into her grand dragon empire and those that resist will die horrendously.
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>>68887103
>it's a "realistic fantasy"
everytime
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>>68887103
Other animals don't also bring along an increase potency to magic in the world. Other animals have observable breeding habits, mating rituals, and can even be domesticated. Dragons in this universe tend to be a little inscrutable and yes, while them being regarded as magic is partly because of that, they are considered magical for the other things that come along with their increased presence in the world.
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>>68887103
I think it has to do with the fact that they were extinct, came back and breath fire, which is a kind of special ability
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Are direwolfs magic creatures?
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>>68887140
No more human beans.
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What do you think about the E02 leak, /got/? Only the opening scene though:


It opens with Bran having a vision of Winterfell.
Bran sees a young Benjen and Ned sparring in the courtyard of Winterfell. Lyanna as she watches asks Benjen who he'll spar with once Ned leaves for the Eyrie. Benjen suggests that he could spar with a large boy who is there watching as well (named "Willis", but the boy is obviously Hodor, I don't know if the rename is just in the Spanish version or not).
Hodor wants to join them, but is reproached by a woman who is standing near by since he's not noble. Benjen tells him that with his size he cold become a great knight. At this point the Three Eyed Raven interrupts and pulls Bran out of the vision, saying it was dangerous to continue. He says that everyone likes to view the depths of the sea, but that if we look too long we'll drown. Bran is fairly angry since he was at "Home". The Three Eyed Raven says that a great war is coming and that they must prepare.
At that point Bran sees Hodor and says, "I've seen you speak, what happened to you?". Hodor, to the shock of everyone, says, "Hodor". Meera is seen speaking with Leaf. She is somewhat distraught, feeling useless as Bran is training and she hasn't much to do.
At that point it transitions to the wall, where Thorne and co are preparing to break into the room holding Jon's corpse.
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>>68887103
Fuck dragons I want to see more magical creatures in this world dammit, heck you barely see fucking anything in a continent the size of South America.

Where are the snakes?
Where are the deers?
Where are all the birds?
Insects?

Westeros biodiversity is shit honestly.
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>>68887067
>>68887084
Keep /pol/ in /pol/. This thread is for Game of Thrones discussion. Lets not get this general banned again because /pol/fags have to alert everyone of their presence everytime they step into a thread
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>>68887171
I wish I gave a fuck about the whole Bran plotline. Should've been kept dropped. I don't want any more of that boring shit.
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>>68887171
Hodor's name isn't Hodor. It's Walder.
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>>68886669
>>68886740
>>68887067
>>68887084

>Stannisautists are Stormfaggots

Why does this make so much sense

No wonder there's been so much /pol/ here
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>>68887166
No they are just big fucking wolves.
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>>68887166
yes
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Here's what I think is going to happen. Danerys is going to be completely impotent to the power struggle in Westeros. Her dragons might fight at the wall against the Otherbros, they might even end up a pawn for Euron's gay little dragon control horn. But Danerys will not take over Westeros.

She'll realize that she's better off freeing Essos from slavery and ruling there. She'll realize that Targaryans never belonged in Westeros, do belong in Essos, and rename Slaver's Bay as New Valyria. There's no point in trying to reclaim Westeros even though people like Varys believe it's best for the realm. She didn't grow up there, she'd have to kill thousands of citizens - using foreigners no less. Some of them, like Dothraki, are going to want to spoils of war. That's not going to inspire loyalty in Westerosi natives. "She gave my father's lands to those reaving horse people."

I don't know, who will end up in power? Will it be reanimated Jon, Jaime, Brienne, Rickon, Hodor? Or will they go back to being independent? Will Danerys try to introduce something like democracy?
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>>68887166
No, I dont think so, the starks only use them as vessels to warg into and feel at home. I dont recall them doing anything special except being huge
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>>68887193
No anon I meant hes a rationalist with a stubborn mind retard like Stannis.
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>>68887067

Fuck off, dumb stormfag. You make all right-wingers look bad.
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>>68887189
>flashbacks about young Ned and Lyanna, soon the Tower of Joy
>boring
Why are you even watching the show.
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>>68887098
Aztecs also had pretty advanced civilization yet still practiced cannibalism
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>>68887166
I think "magic" and "non-magic" is more like a scale than a binary in ASOIAF. Dragons and resurrections are on one end, and plain normie shit on the other. Direwolves are somewhere in the middle,maybe a bit more to the normie side than warging and shit like that.
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>>68887219
>right wingers
>support stormfront

Nice try you left wing fucktard.
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>>68887205
well anon I think that
>weebshit
OPINION
DISCARDED
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>>68887222
That part would be good honestly.
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>>68887084
Was he homosexual?
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>>68887235
lol but I poss bobis to get your attention!
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>>68887205
Stannis on the Iron Throne.

Screencap this.
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>>68887205
Dany doesnt give a shit about people's feelings she will rule and be a great tyrant.
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>>68887253
then post 3d bobis, not 2d
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>>68887235
>being mad about weebs
>on 4chins
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>>68887227
That was ritualized cannibalism that got distorted by Spanish missionaries with an agenda. Not just wanton, hurr durr we're raiding this village and we're going to eat yer ma and pa.
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>>68887233

Literally no person (of even moderate intelligence) that supports the right supports dumb stormfags like you. Hitler was a disaster that ruined a country and pretty much caused all this left-sided backlash that we suffer from today.

By being a super retarded right-winger Hitler pretty much buried the notion and led to this ridiculous rise of Marxism.

So eat shit and National Socialism can eat shit too.
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>>68887222
>Not boring Bran parts are not about Bran
Pretty much
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>>68887205
Tommen will 'rule' a battered Kingdom of just the Crownlands, Stormlands and Westerlands. It'll be a puppet of a nominally independent Reach. Riverlands and Vale will be CIA's domain and will also be nominally independent. the North and Dorne will be completely in chaos. Tommen will claim them but not really rule them.
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>>68887287
THIS

Fucking hell, the Germans literally ruined nationalism for everyone by going too autistically far with it
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>Best friend started watching GoT
How do I not show my power level when we talk about the show?
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>>68887318
>you will never massage preggo Carice's calves
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>>68887287
Hitler made Germany better than Weimar Republic honestly though, the country was actually ruined by europeans who couldnt stop being moralfaggot fucks GOING HURR EVIL NAZIS HURR WE GOTTA MAKE THEM PAY DURR which still goes on today. Poor Germany if only they really did kill everyone then they wouldnt be suffering today.

National Socialism is a political ideology that has jackshit to do with gassing jewish people you are ignorant as hell.

I dont consider Hitler right wing because I dont really see politics in wing ways.
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>>68887171
Boooooooooring
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>>68887345
Why are you hiding your power level? Just embrace it.
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>>68887326
NS isn't nationalism. In many ways it was its opposite, i.e racialist anarchism.
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>>68887318
Carice was round by ours the other day, said she'll come visit with the baby once they're born. I'll make sure ta tell ya if the seed is strong, lads.
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>>68887362
Just fucking kill off Bran already.
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Is based Royce gonna be in this season?
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>>68887345
start sucking his dick
You know you want it
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>>68887171
Bran is so fucking boring.

Hell all the stark children are.
Children ruin everything especially the unkillable overpowered ones.
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>>68887362
Nah it's actually pretty good if it's true.
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>>68887191
It's Willis now. "Walder" would confuse the showplebs.
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>>68887205
doesnt really matter who Daenerys ends up ruling since shes infertile and thus her line ends with her.

probably the same with Shireen too assuming she doesnt get baked like fatman claimed she would.
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>>68887318
She must be carrying Jon Snow, reborn. How do Dumb and Dumber do it?
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>>68887409
Arya is becoming an edgemeister.
>>68887417
>implying she wont just magic away her infertilty
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>>68887326
Germans are Europe's most pathetic people desu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ztOV2wrrkY

>>68887287

What rise in Marxism? Marxism in the West has been on the decline since the 50s and even moderate social democracy has had it's shit kicked in since the 80s. It's a neo-liberal world now.
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>>68886617
The north is the largest territory, about the size of the other six kingdoms put together. The land and holds there are worth the cold.
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>>68887409
But he's westeros saviors he's gonna warg a dragon and save the kingdoms /s
Lolz
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>>68887417
>probably the same with Shireen too assuming she doesnt get baked like fatman claimed she would.

Stannis probably would've eventually gotten rid of Selyse and married someone who's fertility isn't shit.
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>>68887433
or she'll fullfil quaithes prophecy
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>>68887318

Hope dem titties won't get ruined.
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>>68887443
But its FROZEN WARREN WASTELANDS OF ICE AND DEATH.

This is like arguing why people preferred to rule over China over Siberia.
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>>68887453
its Stannis fertility that is shit.

Shireen is the daughter of Patchface
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>>68887351

>hitler made germany than the weimar republic

>by making the rich richer, and basically turning all land-owning farmers into slaves
>by burning books that didn't appeal to nazi propaganda
>by forcing children into activities and disciplines they had no interest in

No, Nazis aren't evil, and I never said that. I wholeheartedly believe that Hitler, Goebbels, Goring, and a few others were not so much evil as just stupid and vain.

But in no way did they save Germany or make it "better" than the Weimar Republic. Having jobs doesn't count for much when your fucking country is shit.

Also

>daily reminder Nazi Germany would've existed and maybe even won the long game if the retard hadn't forced a war with Poland

ALSO

>National Socialism is a political ideology that has jackshit to do with gassing jewish people you are ignorant as hell.

Yeah, beyond that part where Hitler mentions repeatedly in Mein Kampf how Jews are a problem, how they consistently spread propaganda against them, and took all of their possessions.

But you are right in the sense that National Socialism isn't a political ideology - it stood for nothing. As soon as Hitler came into power he fucked over all the people that got him there and gave zero shits about what they promised to do.

National Socialism was just the the tiny group of degenerates Hitler put together, when it comes down to it.
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>>68887458
What titties? It's going to be old CGI mel from now on.
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>>68887417
>doesnt really matter who Daenerys ends up ruling since shes infertile and thus her line ends with her.

There's not really any evidence for that except what Mirri Maz Dur said to probably spite her.
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>>68887475
It is known
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>>68887445

>/s
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how did no one notice little finger is borrowing so much money from the iron bank in the name of the crown?
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>>68886813
They were scared because the North was coming after them for killing Ned Stark. The Starks wanted to kill Joffrey Lannister, the king, which would obviously weaken their seat of power, and it's even worse to run out of heirs with two more kings making claims on the throne (Stannis and Renly).

The North also has strong ties to the Riverlands (thanks to Stark-Tully marriage), and Robb won the river lords over to his side in the war. The Riverlands are in the middle of the kingdom between the Westerlands (Lannister territory), the Crownlands (King's Landing), the Vale (also tied to the North via marriage) and the North. So with that one alliance, the North cut the Lannisters in King's Landing from their homelands and divided their defense, prevented their movement and ability to function (river lands are a big source of farm trade) and possibly trapped the capital between two enemies.

Are you getting it yet? The reason for these marriages and alliances is exactly as simple as it seems. It's to prevent future conflict and ensure you have more people on your side when conflict comes.
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>>68887474
>But its FROZEN WARREN WASTELANDS OF ICE AND DEATH.

Please educate yourself.
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>>68887171
lol so that leak where someone beats Hodor into being retarded is true?
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>>68887481
No it's not. This was the only old Mel scene this season, after this she's back to 'normal'
Stop spreading nonsense.
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>>68887409
Jon snow was pretty good ,oh wait he's not an stark u.u
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>>68887508
hes Jon Stargaryen
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>>68887479
Jews are a problem though as they were what made the Weimar Republic the degenerate shithole it was. You trust jews? Hah the only humans on earth that know the truth about jews are the middle eastern people and its a coincidence we are being paid to kill them right?
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>>68887481
Also, it wasn't CGI you fucking moron.
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>>68887479

Why do you pander to that retard by agreeing that nazis weren't evil and then go on to say (quite rightly) that they were a bunch of corrupt degenerates whose ideology was deeply rooted in hating jews and their arbitrary definition of untermenschen?
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>>68887490
>Joffrey Lannister
*Baratheon
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>>68887507
>This was the only old Mel scene this season
Not a chance
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>>68887525
Wait, I thought it was the jews destroying the west with the "refugees welcome" stuff?
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>>68887538
Carice said it herself you spastic, she only had to play old Mel in one scene.
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>>68887506
IIRC it was Robert who supposedly beats Hodor too hard for joking about Lyanna fucking Rhaegar which turns him into a retard
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>>68887525

I don't trust Jews or distrust them on any particular level. They're just people, and they're likely to look to their own interests; if you allow a minority to take control of a country (like the Jews), then you're the retard, not the minority.

Literally the same thing is happening in my country right now, except instead of Jews, it's a particular Christian denomination, who are slowly taking control of everything, and they live in separate communities of their own where they praise Christ in their own special way.
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>>68887541
We are talking about Germany back then, and yes refugees welcome is jews trying to destroy Europe the genetic base of white humans which would in turn delete the oldest lines of white DNA in history. You dont see the jews doing this crap to China or Africa why Europe why fucking Europe?
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>>68886398
According to that passage from the book, needle represent Arya's revenge.
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>>68887559
>Literally the same thing is happening in my country right now, except instead of Jews, it's a particular Christian denomination, who are slowly taking control of everything, and they live in separate communities of their own where they praise Christ in their own special way.

I'll bite: Filipino?
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>>68887538
It was pretty difficult to do (body double, 6+ hours of make-up, CGI)

D&D will stay lazy and keep that stuff to a minimum, maybe once she dies she will reveal her true form again
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>>68887409
Children ruin every story with their bullshit plot armor.

>lel this 6 year kid kills the ultimate villain because fuck you
Absolutely horrible.
I hope Bran dies.
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Stannis is alive and he'll be commanding united Northern forces gathered by Sansa and Davos.
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>>68887573
>unironically believing this
I sometimes forget that 4chan is full of edgy underage retards but then I see faggots like you come along then I remember
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>>68887586
+ why would Melisandre prefer to stay old
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