It's kind of embarrassing for me to try and put into words my feelings after watching this film, but it's been eating away at me for nearly 5 months now and I think I need help making sense of it, or at least to hear from people that might have had similar experiences.
I want to say that I had some kind of profound reaction to watching the film in the sense that it has made me feel a way that no other film has done before. Since watching Stalker, I have felt like I have not been able to watch another film. From watching 2-3 films a week, the idea of watching a film now feels pointless to me. In the last 5 months I have watched only two films. The Martian at a family outing (because they wanted to), and I watched Victoria this morning in an attempt to try and jump-start my drive to watch films. And to clarify, I don't feel like I've lost my love of film. I still have long conversations about films with friends, I still read all the film news on reddit and am keeping up with trailers for new releases, and even feeling like I want to go and watch some of these new releases. But when it comes to making a decision to go and watch a film, I think of Stalker and it feels pointless.
>>68840716
If all you can think about is a Tarkovsky film, then surely it wouldn't hurt to try watching another Tarkovsky film. He is, after all, one of the greatest filmmakers that ever lived.
is this a new pasta?
I've never seen this flick so should I watch it or are you trying to ruse me
>>68840716
If you are thinking of watching one of his films, I would definitely recommend Solaris or Andrei Rublev; both are brilliant. However, neither got me thinking as hard and for as long as Stalker as it really spoke to me at that point in time.
>>68840772
no, its actually a masterpiece. surprised you havent heard of it, it's hugely influential.
>>68840716
>tfw
>the Stalker is a spiritual leader
>the artist is selfish, he's only looking for inspiration
>the scientist only wants to circumnavigate or destroy what he finds
It's a great critique of the narrow pursuits of art and science for their own sake. 10/10
>>68840716
Hey, I watched stalker last week and was about to watch fury road when I decided to have a look at /tv/ first. How did you know?
Stalker mainly bored me. I'm glad to see there are people who like it. I read all the comments and still don't understand.
>>68840879
IMO Fury Road has a lot of hidden depths well worth pondering. Much moreso than Stalker.
>>68840716
I felt the same way after watching Persona for the first time. I didn't watch many films in the following months, and it haunted me, daily, for a good year or so.
It's been quite a while since I've seen it. I may give it another watch soon.
>>68840716
stalker on criterion? is this a fake cover?
i've been waiting so long for the bluray
>>68840716
Had more or less the same experience with Stalker too. It's now my favorite film of all time. I would recommend you to watch Béla Tarr's films, especially Werckmeister Harmonies, the Turin Horse and Sátántangó. I know, I know, Sátántangó is 7 hours long, but it truly is his best after Werckmeister
>>68840716
>i still read all the film news on reddit
then go back to that shithole
>>68840965
Thanks for the recommendations.
Werckmeister Harmonies especially sounds like an interesting concept, although the trailer doesn't give much away.
>>68841037
>implying neo-/tv/ isnt worse than reddit
play the vidya
>>68840716
It makes sense that you have had a reaction like this to a Tarkovsky film. His films are not about conveying narrative information (hence the reason most of them can't be said to have a strong 'plot'), but rather are attempting to produce in the viewer a kind of contemplative revelation beyond words.
>>68841093
its worse than the movie on so many levels. its also barely even based on it.
Stalker is the perfect gateway drug, and it's completely fine as long as you don't stop there. It's very telling that Reddit holds it up as their masterpiece, because as far as kino goes it is not that challenging.
>>68841139
yeah, seems a lot of casual moviegoers get there and then stop, thinking tarkovsky is as far as it goes. its a shame really.
>>68840716
Who thought that typeface would look good on the cover?
>>68841179
What the fuck are you talking about? It looks great
>>68840716
After watching Nostalghia yesterday, I've now seen all of his non-documentary films from 1961 (The Steamroller and the Violin) to 1986 (The Sacrifice). Stalker has always been in the top 5.
>>68840772
It's great but kinda boring
>>68841139
True, true
Anyone worth their salt knows true kino belongs to the Shaw Brothers
This movie isn't like the games, I hate when that happens.
>>68841065
both are shitholes but i feel less shit-covered in here
and OP, if you are just entering into this kind of films, try some Satyajit Ray and Bresson films
bergman, antonioni and zvyagintsev are great too
>>68840716
Simply put, I currently feel this after watching Requiem For A Dream. The movie is so intense, so well done. I've seen films after it and truly nothing does seem to compare.
>>68841200
The S is bleeding out on the left, but the T is cut short, and the A is almost illegible in the thumbnail. It's garbage.
>>68841261
Nor is it like the novel, nor is the novel like the games.
Worst franchise ever
>>68841278
The movie is set in a post-apocalyptic world, it's supposed to look old and rundown, not clean and minimalist like everything fucking else these days.
>>68840716
>muh art films
>muh long takes
>muh subtitles
this movie is literally pretentious as fuck, for hipsters to jerk off to and then thumb their noses at superhero fans.
>>68841299
There's a novel?
>>68841389
Roadside Picnic
>>68841366
>people this pleb actually exist
>>68841179
this is a fanmade edit, and a cheap one at that
Stalker is not in the Criterion collection
>>68840927
what did you like about it? ive been meaning to get around to it soon
>>68840716
>all these new friends falling for the bait
>>68841326
>The movie is set in a post-apocalyptic world
The zone is certainly my world.
>>68840716
Stalker is one of the most beautiful movies ever made, in my opinion. I didn't think it was slow at all. I love Tarkovsky's long shots, and always refer to them as "living paintings". That movie, and Solaris, hypnotized me completely. Both sort of left me just staring into nothingness after they ended, and still do if I rewatch them.
>>68841466
>actual movie discussion
>bait
nice. you can go back to your superhero thread now kiddo.
>>68840716
I would recommend every thing by him but you have to realize that the slowness of this film is his style so if you are going to watch a film of his be prepared. I recommend Solaris as well as the Sacrifice and Nostalghia. Ivans childhood is fantastic and has some of my favorite images in any film.
>>68840716
YOu will love again, OP. I swear it.
>>68841275
Nah. That hit an emotional bullseye but the film style was nothing so grand. Dig deeper.
>>68841535
it's a copy pasted thread from reddit, you can google it if you don't believe me pham
>>68840716
Andrei Rublev is my favorite film of his. The final section dealing with the making of a bell is one of the greatest pieces of film making I've ever seen. However, overall the film is not "easy viewing" as it's a tough nut to crack (like most of his films), but if you liked Stalker then you already what to expect (more of less) from Tarkovsky.
>>68840716
My friend and I like to call Stalker "the most boring interesting film ever made." I've seen it a few times since and wouldn't call it boring anymore but can see how others do, not insinuating you thought this op. It's a great film to watch multiple times though in order to really try to analyze it. I'm actually doing this right now.
>>68841588
>fav tarkovsky
>andrei rublev
pleb detected
>>68841467
what the fuck are you even saying
>>68840716
Little bit of history here:
If you're not familiar with this, the Soviet government made Tarkovsky take out certain things that they didn't approve of. Finally, years after Tarkovsky's death, they found the additional footage and restored the film to how Tarkovsky had originally made it.
The thing is, I've heard that Tarkovsky himself said he was glad that he was asked to make those changes, and that he personally liked the edited version of the film more.
So, the question is, do you think the added footage added to the film? Which version is really the "director's cut" if Tarkovsky himself favored the edited release?
>>68841807
he fucking never said that.
>>68840716
>this movie literally gave people cancer
>>68841807
Sounds like an Apocalypse Now Redux scenario to me. The theatrical version is better and should be seen first, and if you're really into the film and want more, you should watch the version with the added scenes
>>68841833
HE
DIED
FOR
ART
>>68841827
google it fgt
>>68841863
He looks like my dad, creepy.
>>68841935
he looks like a fucking 7th grade math teacher
>>68841935
your dad looks like charles bronson?
>>68841839
except apocalype now's extended cut was better
>>68842000
My dad isn't Mexican.
>>68841962
Eh, I guess...
>>68841261
>>68841299
made me giggle.
>>68842063
>his dad isnt mexican and his mom isnt white
>>68842028
except it wasn't you pleb
>>68842092
how was it not? explain that to me fag
>>68841275
>Requiem For A Dream
well, maybe then your next step will be Bill &Teds excellent Adventure. It will give you revelations, dude.
and after that try the transformers franchise. You will feel evangelical for month...
also please never post in a Trakowski thread again!
>>68842120
the redux version fucks with the pacing way too much and drags the movie, which is why it should be seen after seeing the original version
it also injected some comedy into the originally very bleak film, another reason that it shouldn't be seen first
>>68840716
The best thing you can do if you want to understand Stalker on a more meaningful level is to rewatch it and rewatch it, and also watch all of Tarkovsky's other films. It can't hurt to read Roadside Picnic as well.
>>68840716
I generally love films that portray a journey to find something higher, that portray inner turmoil and existential paradigms. In one way, for me, it resembled "Knight of Cups" in theme. The journey to find something higher, happiness, fullfillment. The difference it was that here the destination was known and the objective as well.
>>68841366
Why are you so insecure just because you didn't like one movie? Why does it mean so much to you to have this image?
>>68842227
I'm a big Malick fan (Tree Of Life is one of my favourite films ever, and I love his early stuff too) but Knight Of Cups felt like it's reach exceeded it's grasp. Stalker was finely crafted and Tarkovsky knew when to keep the story literal and when to use metaphors, but I felt Malick tried to keep it too ethereal and didn't give the audience enough to feel rooted.
>>68842247
>im going to pretend to like boring russian movies online so people like me more
i think youve got it the wrong way round bud
>>68842313
If this was what we were doing, why would we do it on an anonymous board? Moreso, why do you enter threads about topics you clearly don't like without any constructive argument?
>>68842313
holy shit, you actually think this dont you?
>>68840716
bump
>>68842352
its what capeshit has done to this place
>>68842197
>It can't hurt to read Roadside Picnic as well.
This.
The book is great.
>>68842147
You mean Tarkovsky?
>>68842513
It's not nearly as good as the film. I say this as a man who read the book first.
>>68842147
>hating on Bill & Ted
>>68841299
Roadside Picnic stripped of its cinematic elements.
Bravo, Tark
>>68842608
3/10. apply yourself next time.
>>68840716
It's kind of embarrassing for me to try and put into words my feelings after watching this film, but it's been eating away at me for nearly 5 months now and I think I need help making sense of it, or at least to hear from people that might have had similar experiences.
I want to say that I had some kind of profound reaction to watching the film in the sense that it has made me feel a way that no other film has done before. Since watching Batman V Superman, I have felt like I have not been able to watch another film. From watching 2-3 films a week, the idea of watching a film now feels pointless to me. In the last 5 months I have watched only two films. The Martian at a family outing (because they wanted to), and I watched Victoria this morning in an attempt to try and jump-start my drive to watch films. And to clarify, I don't feel like I've lost my love of film. I still have long conversations about films with friends, I still read all the film news on reddit and am keeping up with trailers for new releases, and even feeling like I want to go and watch some of these new releases. But when it comes to making a decision to go and watch a film, I think of BvS and it feels pointless.
>>68840716
Is that the gay rapist from Shawshank?
This was my first try at Tarkovsky and I am truly amazed. The dialogue, interaction between characters and the overall story kept me completely interested for the whole length of the film and made me sleep very little afterward. There are also several shots and scenes that won't be leaving my mind soon, like the well, the meat grinder or the sand room.
>>68840716
I think the first half of Stalker is probably perfect. I do not believe that it could be done better, not by anyone. I'm still trying to figure out the second half... really the last quarter I guess. It's probably genius too, but... I don't know. I might have to watch it again.
I really liked Stalker, I thought it had some great ideas, the acting was amazing, and the dialogue is superb.
My only problem with the movie is every once in a while, a pointless shot would be held for 2-3 minutes for no reason. Now, most of the time, the held shots were actually pretty interesting, while still keeping me with the story...
But other times, average shots would just stay there for such long periods of time, and for little reason, it really got annoying.
Aside from that, I thought this movie was outstanding. The story has several twists in the second half that keep you interested, and you can definitely feel the characters chemistry thanks to clever writing and, again, amazing acting (Especially by the Stalker himself).
Not your average sci-fi, but creative and surreal all the same.
9/10
>>68842861
>rating movies on a 10 scale
hi RLM!
![Stalker_[1979]_by_Andrei_Tarkovsky_PassThePopcorn_-_2016-04-28_20.51.11.png](https://i.imgur.com/cf23rx6.png "Stalker_[1979]_by_Andrei_Tarkovsky_PassThePopcorn_-_2016-04-28_20.51.11.png")
>>68840953
there is a bluray, but not by criterion
>>68842513
it's ok.
The premise is more interesting than the actual content really
I went through such a slew of emotions when I watched this from anxiety, slight terror, an odd happiness, and like you I haven't been able to stop thinking about the movie since.
I also felt really bad for the stalker, near the end near the room when he starts crying almost like an innocent child convinced the room is his saving grace or something.
>>68840953
>>68842970
note that the bluray was released by mosfilm, and there is controversy about the lighting and other elements in their release. another company, artifical eye is supposedly releasing another bluray of it later this year. unfortunately I don't think criterion is every going to get their hands on it
>>68840925
Thou hast to be baiting me
>>68843345
nah senpai, Stalker is pretentious garbo
>>68843536
>>68843345
>>68840925
>>68840879
I'm genuinely interested in this, I thought Fury Road was just a pretty action movie. Is there actually any depth to it? Is it worth a watch?
>>68843637
Watch it for yourself first. Then come back and talk about it.
>>68840716
Try Serkalo/The Mirror by Tarkovskij. If you don't fall in love with his visual direction, I don't know what to tell ya.
>>68840716
БГALKER?
What's wrong with that font?
>>68841228
this.
op, think about the three characters, their drives, and think about the room and everything it means then think about the final scene and your reaction to it. it you fully take the movie seriously then this reaction is kind of expected, not in the "oh it's so profound" kind of way, but because of how you've relayed certain patterns of behavior before and after watching the movie
>>68843697
how was any of what that anon wrote pretentious? do you know what that word means?
>>68843728
shit
this was meant for
>>68841095
>>68840716
Did you watch it on Youtube? Perhaps, I'm biased because it is one of, if not my all time favorite film.
If you can, try to see it in the highest quality possible; like all of Tarkovsky's movies, the visuals are incredibly striking and beautiful, and to lose that effect is to lose a great enjoyment of the film itself.
The youtube version is convenient, yes, but you'll be doing yourself a favor to see Stalker the way it was intended.
>>68843666
I'm not going to bother watching it unless I'm convinced it isn't simply a good looking action movie, i'm pretty sure i'm getting meme'd on here.
>>68843782
>wont watch it even though it looks good
nice
>>68841139
This here. I watched Stalker for the first time 3 years ago. I had already seen Andrei rublev, mirror and Ivan's childhood. But stalker shook me like nothing else. That first shot of zone after the train ride, the dolly shot over water and the cut to the dog, the artist walking through the water. But today I am watching new wave Taiwan films, HHH, Yang, Tsai. The cinema rabbit hole goes deep and stalker is a great gateway film.
>>68841228
>top 5
>of like 10 movies
not really saying a lot desu
>>68843782
Stalker is no action movie. There's very little action in it. More adventure, nature, industrial scenery, mystery
>>68840716
I never watched a Tarkovsky film, and I downloaded Stalker, so this is great timing to watch it.
Does anyone have a bit of advice or something before I do?
But mirror is his best work objectively
>>68843866
Be warned: it is a slow and meditative film, which drives away some viewers. It gives you time to contemplate the events onscreen, so take advantage of that. Originally there was an intermission, so I guess if you feel like it, take a quick break between pt I and II. You may be tempted to noodle around on your phone or whatever but I'd recommend giving your full attention to the screen (as with all films).
>>68841366
what movie did you watch? the one I saw didn't have subtitles. Or maybe you don't speak Russian, is that the confusion?
>>68843782
I meant 'good' as in 'attractive', I think it looks like a bland action movie but i'd be willing to give it a go if there is actually any depth to it
>>68843860
I'm talking about Fury Road
>>68843866
The "first part" is slow, I'm a add having millenial myself but I didn't skip a single second because the movie is quite enthralling.
Then I read on the wiki that the first part acted like a sort of pleb filter, for me it really got interesting the second they reached the Zone.
lol at all the pretentious fags like >>68841095 trying to sound profound but don't have the slightest clue about how the human mind actually works, Tarkovskzzzzzzzzzz is trash
>>68843866
Make yourself a pot of coffee or tea. It is a slow burner. Watch it in the dark, highest quality possible. Turn off your phone. Get comfy and pay attention.
>>68843888
he didnt watch it, that's his confusion
>>68843926
Y'know dude, if you're new to film, it's okay to just not get what people are talking about sometimes. Why don't you ask questions in at least somewhat positive ways? Why is it that everything you don't immediately understand is trash to you?
>>68843866
Watch it aloneI watched it with my gf and it was a mistake
Don't bring your phone, bring some snacks, don't watch it when tired
I really enjoyed it, so much that I'll probably watch it again and again. It's really slow though, but I never found it boring.
>>68843866
I would definitely recomend it as a starting point for him. For one, it was my introduction to him as a director and it got me hooked. Also, it lies in a comfortable place somewhere between his more grounded films like Ivan's Childhood, and his more abstract films like The Mirror, so it should give you a good idea of who he is as a director.
>>68843884
>objectively
>best
CAN'T wait for /film/ /tarkgen/
>objective ranking
Top tier
>mirror, rublev, stalker
Middle
>Solaris, sacrifice
Low
>Ivan, nostalghia
>>68843966
I have seen all of his films mate (even his version of the Killers) Tark was a world class bullshitter, just like most of Yuro fart house directors. If you want religious bullshit wrapped up in the pretentious of art then knock yourself out. I know that weak people often find comfort in mysticism that Tark peddled. I on the other hand seek out empirical truths, for this reason Tark is garbage
>>68844040
>I on the other hand seek out empirical truths
what a dull person you must be senpai
>>68844040
you forgot something
>>68844067
>the real is world dull
lol, this is what relgitards actually believe
>>68844070
epic argument
>>68844040
>>68844104
His stuff is spiritual but not inherently religious
>>68844137
same flawed epistemology, trash all around
>>68844040
So who do you like? Metafilm kiarostami?Godard? King?
>>68844104
>I want to watch movies about particle colliders
give me a break anon, your 'argument' is non-existent, a heap of meaningless ad-hominem
>>68844154
It sounds like you're dismissive of his meanings, which is fine, but you seem to count that as a negative of the director rather than a difference in opinion. Other than disagreeing with that he is trying to say, what is your argument that Tarkovsky is a flawed director?
ANUUUUU CHEEKI BREEKI IV DAMKE
>>68844249
>tfw no cheeki breeki in this movie
>>68840716
Try the Revenant, OP. Not joking here.
>>68844300
kill yourself anon. not joking here.
>>68844167
why does this matter? Actually anyone can sniff out what you are trying to do
>>68844208
are you honestly saying that the 'truth' in Tark's films is anything more than a pile of unsupported assertions?
>>68844225
If one is going to waste my time with laughable dialogue, ciphers rather than characters, threadbare plotting, and overly long static shots then that person better have something more to say than bush league mysticism.
>>68844249
>>68844291
I said come in, don't stand there!
>>68844331
>he's bored by long takes
>>68840716
I know exactly how you feel OP.https://vimeo.com/2601707
>>68840716
You didnt have a revelation. You just dont get Stalker.
You usually get most films and can therefore take a level of satisfaction from it, but this one is different. Now you're put off from watching films for fear that what happened to you during Stalker will happen with another film.
>>68844369
Thank you, I've actually been really meaning to get into Mekas lately.
>>68844331
I disagree with all of those criticisms and will no longer be responding to you
>>68840925
lol
>>68844331
Did I ever say Tark reveals any "truth" in his films?
"truth" is non-existent, it's something completely personal. What's true to me can be completely false to you and neither of us can factually invalidate the other.
Unless you mean science, do you want all movies to be about science?
>>68844324
>Not acknowledging Lubetzki's visual work.
Stay full of salt and bitterness, anon.
>>68844383
You should. I'd also recommend The Master by Anderson andInherent Vice.
Interesting side note, the guy who plays the stalker is the current top striker for EPL league leaders Leicester
>>68844104
"I hate on other people's beliefs, because how dare they not be cynical depressing 'atheists' who loathe everything and believe in nothing after death, boy am I cool."
>>68844478
Funny you should mention that, The Master is actually my favorite film. Are you an oldfag round these parts? Do you by any chance remember the good days of /tv/?
>>68844488
I thought he died in the 90s?
>>68844422
serious films are about truth, Tark was trying to be serious but failed. I like entertainment, but that is something else from what Tark was trying
>>68844495
>"I hate people content with reality, because how dare they not be pious prigs who loathe life for that they believe it is nothing but a test, boy am I cool."
>>68840716
You fell for the meme. That's ok, happened to all of us.
>>68844553
I never claimed to hate non-religious people. I only hate the people who bash the fuck out of religion unprovoked and for no reason other than to do it.
NOW AIN'T THAT JUST EDGY
>>68844429
If you want Lubezki at his best, watch Tree of Life. Or any of the other Malick films he worked on.
>>68844591
>stalker
>meme
nice meme
>>68844598
>I only hate the people who bash the fuck out of religion unprovoked and for no reason other than to do it.
are you trying to imply that people have no good reasons to do so
>>68844488
Anon, this film was made in the 80s
>>68844513
I wouldn't consider myself an oldfag on /tv/, but even I remember a time when there wasn't that much of mindless /pol/based race-baiting shitposting. Even though I feel like it's getting a little less lately. It's not even that long ago, maybe 4 years. I remember whenbaneposting was funnyandBreaking Bad generalswhich were decent.
I'd also recommend Children of Paradise by Marcel Carné for you to watch some time. That's also one of my all time favorites even though it's a very different thing obviously. But it's amazing.
>>68844665
No, everything has flaws, including religion. I'm Catholic, and I know some of this shit is whack. But not everyone believes the bible word for word, I take the over the top shit like living in a giant fish as like metaphors, or examples of situations. But everything definitely has flaws, and reasons to hate them. But that's still no need to go about flaunting it like a total fag.
>>68844714
I will definitely be watching that soon, thank you anon. I too remember not that long ago at all when film discussion actually happened on this board.
It's funny, /tv/ is the only interest board that doesn't actually discuss their interest.
>>68840716
>I still read all the film news on reddit
>>68844772
Well this thread is making a difference.
I don't know if you will like it, but another film that stands out in my opinion is Munchhausen by Terry Gilliam. I find it almost comical how this work of his gets overlooked. It beatsBrasilin every field, imho
>>68844933
i have literally never met someone who has seen a Terry Gilliam film that wasnt Brazil or 12 Monkeys.
>>68844933
You should make threads like these too. I figure if we spam these for long enough we can alienate the shitposters and capeshitters and make /tv/ great again
>>68845145
>>68840716
The thing is that when you at some point come in contact with films that are actual pieces of art and which transcend the shallowness of the medium, you realize that there are very few film makers out there who reach this or aim at this.
You might be finding yourself watching more unorthodox and "experimental" or personal stuff. Some names of contemporaries include von Trier, Harmony Corrine, Haneke, P.T. Anderson or even Malick, if that's your thing.
>>68845048
I really hope that's not true (in spite of the fact that he made Fear and Loathing)
>>68845239
>Korine
yesss thank you based anon. Gummo is one of my all-time favs.
>>68840860
it's actually a chiasma, as the artist is the pragmatic one while the scientist wants to believe in the zone. This pretty much proves the anomality of the zone
>>68845281
what are you saying?
>>68845048
Ever since he turned away from his visual style of practical designs and towards CGi his films also became strangely irrelevant and near unbearable. The shining exception here being Fear and Loathing of course.
>>68845263
I loved Gummo as well. Amazing work.
>>68844331
>why does this matter? Actually anyone can sniff out what you are trying to do
Maybe he was honestly asking. You're being sensitive here though makes me believe you're just a shitposter however
>>68845300
my answer was badly expressed. I think that
>It's a great critique of the narrow pursuits of art and science for their own sake.
it's never been about that. It's about spiritualism, faith and and meaninglessness. It has never been a critique or something, it's actually made to be very simplistic. Tarkovski just wanted to break the thin line between the realm of dreams and reality
>>68844104
So you're only into documentary then?
>>68845587
Not him, but from some perspective everything is a critique of something, because everything created and every aesthetic can be put in contrast to something. And even though some people have been trying, in near every case their work fails to include all (as in 'the whole') of reality.
>>68845587
>>68845711
Also even the concept of a reality like that can be put into opposition.
It's a position you can take on things, just as being political or religious about everything to the point where brushing your teeth is political, and to which you must position yourself when it is brought up.
But there are other planes of reflection, I reckon.
>>68845711
everything can be analyzed, but not everything is a critique. rare is the work of art which is really a critique. a subtile opinion about something is not a critique. Stalker isn't a pamphlet.
>>68840716
Would you recommend to watch this with subtitles or is the English (German) dub any good?
>>68845837
True. And point taken. But from a fundamentalist's or a political point of view every thing is political at its root and a statement and the expression of a person's or a group's politics even if they're not aware of it. Of course politics is a product of philosophy and ethics (which in turn could be further deducted) but the person arguing from a political stance will ignore that.
>>68845837
>>68845969
But yes, I agree with what you say. Stalker is far from intending to send a political message.
>>68845931
I think with most foreign films the rule is to watch them in their native language with subtitles
>>68845931
I don't know. German dub might be decent. English I assume wouldn't, so I watched it with subs.
>>68840716
>BGALKER
What does they mean by that?
>>68842970
how do i get a PTP account
The 'Zone' is a fictional creation used to represent what we, as humans, already are. The Writer realizes this and asks the Stalker why he considers the Room a miracle after his epiphany about the nature of Porcupine. The Stalker has upmost faith in his altruistic goal of bringing the wretched to come to the Room; in this way, Tarkovsky wants to portray him as a Jesus Christ figure. His faith in the Zone is profoundly shaken once he is returned with his wife.
The reason why the Zone and the film are so interesting because of the infinite amount of realities one can project upon them. It's why it's a film that you can spend hours deliberating on.
>>68847734
lmao how do you not have a ptp and hdb account
>>68847874
i only have a whatcd account, feels bad man.
>>68847905
Whenever you're just bored at home then upload free bandcamp releases to wcd until you make it to PU , from PU join all the babby trackers like tehC and MTV to keep you going for a while but keep uploading to wcd whenever you're bored.
When you reach elite you can join ptp and from elite ptp you can join HDB.
If you like anime then animebytes is another good way to reach AHD and PTP
>>68841228
Nostalghia is second only to Andrei Rublev in his filmography, honestly these may very well be his only good movies.
is it just me or is this board getting easier to troll by the day
not that i don't appreciate the discussion of stalker, and Tarkovsky, but come on guys....
>>68845239
>>68845048
>>68845145
>>68844933
shouts out to everybody in this comment thread
y'all are restoring my faith that /tv/ [spoilers] or /film/ [/spoilers] have a chance of being good.
we just gotta remember to not fall for bait and ignore shitposters and we can have great threads again
>>68848014
>in this comment thread
>doesn't know how tospoiler
what le fug?
did I just bite some spicy spicy bait
>>68848050
sorry bro i've been typesetting math for like 3 hours and my forwardslash/backslash is all fucked up
\integral_{-\infty}^{\infty} e^{-x^2} dx = \sqrt{\pi}
>>68841278
the T is a cyrilic G
>>68848149
Also here on 4chan we don't use the term comment thread
Welcome to /tv/ though , enjoy your stay!
Remember to lurk before you post for at least a few months and whatever you do , don't post any yucky yucky memey wemeys
>>68848187
>>68842263
Most Malick's late work is as bad as Stalker, even worse because they don't even pretend to be original or anything more than pretty pictures devoid of content. It's just the same middle brow aestheticism, the same memes, given new clothes for each one of his movies since TTRL (though I can concede The New World as being authentic enough to deserve positive notes). I give Stalker the advantage of being on its own swamp of cinematographique waste, but the nihilism and post-impressionism are still mixed and discussed with no productive result as in Malick's.
>>68847905
>whatcd
everything is already on rutracker and soulseek man, why bother?
>>68848187
>Also here on 4chan we don't use the term comment thread
Not that anon, but this is just not true. Oh i get it, you're baiting, well carry on then.
>>68846140
>>68846061
If I like it, I'll definitely watch it with subs one day at least. I think you can make a case for dubs though. The first time watching might be way better if you can completely immerse yourself and sometimes that's easier with the dub.
>>68848510
I have literally never seen someone say comment thread on 4chan and i've been lurking here for 8 years
>>68849296
none of them have been released yet
they're gonna release Mirror, Ivan and Solaris next month, Stalker and Nostalgia in June, Sacrifice in July and Andrei Rublev in December
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAWbmjfbHMY
muh dick
>>68845281
woah
>>68849207
Really, never? I'll concede that it's not used often, but people still use it.
Anyways, I use it refer to a long series of back-and-forths when i don't feel like linking all the relevant posts.
>>68843924
Its a great action film. What do you mean by depth? It is deep in the sense that the filmmaking on display is absolutely stunning. Stunts, cinematography, set-design, and pretty much every other technical detail is amazing. The plot is virtually nonexistent. Its just one long chase scene, but its the best chase scene you've ever seen.
>>68840716
The most reddit post I have seen this year.
Possible the most reddit post In internet history.
In fact the reddit factor of this post is so high I feel that it transcends reddit,time and space to the point your post actually created reddit.
> I still read all the film news on reddit
He even admits it openly like there's nothing wrong.
But why post this here ? what are you attempting to do ? I do not know, bait? maybe.
I actually quite enjoyed the novelty of this post, this 'next level' redditposting is a change from the usual redditposts.
Amazing that you already admit in the very post itself that you are a redditor, making me calling you out pointless, this is a nice touch.
So what is next? do you claim to only use reddit for X and try to say that it is ok to use reddit for X, or do you start saying that there's nothing wrong with reddit ? I do not know.
I will leave this thread and never know these things, all I know is that I want you to go back to your reddit and stay there, leave us in peace .
>>68848149
Highlight the text you want to spoiler and press control + sFoolproof way to spoiler
For me it's like an 8/10 movie but with like 14/10 fucking sound design. Never seen a film with sound that good. Really made the atmosphere, and the atmosphere makes the movie.
>>68843637
>I thought Fury Road was just a pretty action movie
It is.
It's the dark knight all over again, a mediocre movie overhyped by redditors.
>>68842184
I know this is cheeky, but is there any chance you could point out which scenes were added -the important ones, at least? I watched redux last week and I hadn't seen the original in well over ten years so it was all relatively new to me.
>>68847734
Give 312c some succ
>>68841807
>>68841827
That's the history of Andrei Rublev, not Stalker
>>68852477
>leave us
>us
And you have the nerve to tell others to leave, you fucking piece of shit cancer
>>68852477
This post made me fucking cringe hard.
Get with the fucking times, grandpa. And stop memeing to fit in.
>H-he said raddit - Go back! - R-right guys??
Just kill yourself.
>>68849174
>>68840772
>this flick
Goddamn, /tv/ is fucking dead
But Stalker was one of his weaker films
>>68857869
Considering he has ~7 notable films, that isn't saying much
>>68841065
thanks to who retard
>>68853407
Most noticeable is the French plantation scene, which is like 40 minutes long, and the scene where they fuck the playboy girls. In addition to that there's some extra dialogue between Kurtz and Willard, and a scene where the PBR gang steal a surfing board from Kilgore - after this played the scene with "Satisfaction" by the Rolling Stones, which in the original cut played before we met Kilgure. After that there's a scene of them hiding while Kilgore's helicopters are searching for them and broadcasting a message, apparently he really loved that board they stole.
This is off the top of my head, there may be more scenes that were added in. You can tell that none of these sound particularly crucial to the plot, and they really aren't, but they're not bad scenes necessarily. I think of it as bonus material, which you would only watch after first watching the proper movie.
