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Talentless hack or misunderstood genius?
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>>68807236
A little from Coloum A and a bit from Coloum B
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He went too far in a few places
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Misunderstood hack
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He made the prequels the worst he could just to piss off his fans. I'd do the same on his situation
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>>68808828
I'd actually go with talentless genius
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Better than clueless Abrams and Disney.
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>>68809145
This. Georgie is clearly a master rusemen and businessman, If he wanted a god-tier prequel trilogy, he would've done it no problem.
>ywn spite a huge fanbase and wipe your ass with money from your autistic fans who hate you but still watch/buy your shit anyway
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He's a good ideas man and businessman, but he never accepted the fact that he needed help with his creations
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>>68809735
What the fuck is he doing?
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>>68809811
he's marking what should and shouldn't be CGI on the storyboard. It seems fairly obvious but his use of CGI for the back in some scenes and actors for the forefront is one of the more subtle things.
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>>68807236
I think he's the key to all of this, if we can get him working
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>>68809202
>Implying SJWs ever cared about aliens when demanding diversity

Also, let's remove all the fucking alien characters from our space opera, aside from a bunch of cantina chucklefucks. I mean, it's just like the OT, amirite?
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>>68807236
Underrated hack
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The prequels were a deep exploration into the mind of George Lucas as he performs a massive social experiment on his audience. He evokes passions, hatreds, all by adding a talking fish man character. Filmed with mostly bad actors, full of gaudy special effects, Lucas is channeling the spirit of German philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche here, who once said that the taller a tree stands, the deeper its roots must go. The prequels are the deep, dark and dank roots of the original trilogy and as such had to stand opposed to it. Through viewing the prequels as they are, a dark reflection, a shadow of the greatness that lies above them, we gain new insights into the value and the beauty of the original trilogy.

The incompleteness was purposeful. He left incompleteness to inspire his audience, he wanted to force the imaginations of his viewers to fill in the blanks, for authors to bridge gaps and other artists to suffer as they tried to wrap their heads around the genius of this man's work. Most fail to do so and become bitter and resentful, they curse his works. But the few, the privileged, these aristocratic souls can see past the surface level fanboy delusions. They know that suffering is fertilizer for the soul and that Lucas is a master gardener.

Compare with the Hebraic spirit which flows through the new Disney productions, "Rebels" and TFA. Gone is the daimon of George Lucas. Gone are his charms, his masterful execution and passionate direction. How many memes from TFA still survive, less than six months after its release? Compare to the deep network of memes developed by the PT and you will begin to see the light, you will hear his daimon whispering in your ear.

These movies prove once and for all that George Lucas has ascended to the level of meta-artist, he is beyond his class and has likely left humanity itself behind. As he finished this glorious experiment he forced himself to eject it from his mind to clean the slate for something new.
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One hit wonder.
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>>68808573
talentless genius is my thought too
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>>68810575
arc of the covinent
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>>68810555
Compare to disneyshit, which is literally Jewish executives trying to shove as many quips and token X characters in as possible to please the MCU audience and the new ""nerd"" demographic. Design by board, color by numbers choosing JJ Abrams, the most mindlessly loyal purveyor of corporate drivel in the history of cinema to create the introductory flick to advertise their new cash cow. These flicks are so blatant in their exploitation that even Lucas, who had wished to leave this chapter in his life behind him, feels remorse that his art is being tarred with this filth. There is no artistic value here. Mr. Abraham does not want you to question things too much, you cannot be inspired otherwise you, the goy, might seek a muse, might sharpen your pain into a spear with which you might run through the entire Jewish cabal that rules this fatally ill industry.

No, you are goyim. Cattle. You are herded through an artificially manufactured experienced designed to titillate the base senses without providing release. There will always be cliffhangers. Always room for a new movie. Trilogies? Why would you have neat and tidy story arcs when you can just throw slimy flicks one after another against the wall for your hungry, cattlelike audience to slurp up after it slowly slides to the floor?
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>>68810555
It's all about allusions to our history, myth and the glories of days past (especially the Roman one), which normies don't know and don't read.

It's as simple as that. The PT is exactly the tool to use to measure a person's intelligence. As such, Roger Ebert liked it, while RedditLetterMedia shat on it.
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>>68807236
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>>68810555
trips say the truth.
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>>68810582
>misunderstood hack
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>>68810771
Precisely, he was portraying a sick society full of sick people. There was a veneer of glory, of nobility, but it was placed over a degenerate society, a society that is spiritually bankrupt, where the senate is so corrupt that corruption given a human form is its chancellor.

Even the hero, Anakin, was sick, his supposedly noble spirit infantilized by the environment around him. He was the chosen one, chosen to wipe away the old order, end the cycle so that the son could begin the cycle anew! Anakin's job was not done with the Jedi dead, the Emperor himself was the ultimate manifestation of the degenerate age. An age where the greatest soul (as shown by his portrayal) was also the darkest one. Yet the Jedi were also manifestations of the degenerate age. He leaves Luke, at the end, to rebuild society, rebuild the Jedi order with the lessons learned from his adventure.

And the sequels ruin that, as if JJ was a bull in a china shop. He shatters everything about Anakin by telling us that Luke has failed, that his Jedi did not learn the lesson of Vader, the lessons of the old age. Not even one generation removed and the Jedi are decimated again. JJ broke the cycle without even being cognizant of a cycle existing. He is a cultural philistine of the lowest order.
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>>68807236
Lucas was a filmmaking genius, but not perfect, or infallible.

Abrams might be a TV genius, but no one still watches tv
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>>68811097
Exactly. Plebs always go "why did the Jedi suck so much?"

BECAUSE the Jedi were corrupted. They had to be destroyed.

But the alternative, the Emperor, while originally a force of progress, ends up a bloated, corrupted, mindless mess by Episode VI and, too, must be removed, along with Vader himself, the force of destructive change given flesh.

By destroying the corrupt Sith and Jedi, Vader opened a road for Luke to start the line of new, balanced force-users. On one hand, Luke received training on self-sacrifice from Yoda and Obi-Wan (who, too, were redeemed and found understanding of the Force, implied to come from Qui-Gon), but also had love for his family (that Palpatine used to bring Vader into the Sith fold). Combining the Jedi selflessness with the Sith emotionalism, Luke would be the first of the "rebuilt" Jedi, free from the shackles of the old order.

But Abrams doesn't care and gives us Luke the secluded refuge, a destroyed Jedi Order, and hack pseudo-Sith, none of whom understood anything about the fall of the Jedi and Sith.

George said in a recent interview: don't try making Star Wars just a "pew pew sci-fi" if you don't have an idea for the narrative. I'm only hoping that without JJ the new director (who praised PT specifically) will do better and give us a substantial, experimental film.
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>>68807236
Wacky space-schlock shitter but the symbolism in prequels make me wonder
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>>68813227
>BECAUSE the Jedi were corrupted.
How the fuck were the Jedi corrupted?
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>>68807236
misunderstood genius
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>>68807236
absolute madman
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>>68807236
Shit filmmaker, good businessman. Any vision he actually had was pushed aside by his wanting more money, toy deals, innovations in sfx. When George returned to directing, he had lost any knack for the craft he had. That said, didn't need any knack at that point. THX and American Graffiti are still solid, New Hope is cool.
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>>68809326
>>68810555
>>68810735
>>68810771
>>68811097
>>68813227
You guys are pathetic.
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>>68813681
The Jedi had become as obsessed with procedure, too lost in their metaphysical ponderings of the will of the force. They had become something less than full beings, in sublimating their passions they did not control them, they sidestepped them. They did not ride the tiger or even tame the tiger, they caged the tiger.

Notice how quickly Windu moves to, just like Anakin, and without a Sith lord compelling him, execute a defeated enemy. Some Jedi, when a grandmaster is willing to butcher a defeated enemy.

When Anakin, a boy who knew what love was like, came into their order, they were unprepared. They had soppy, weak hearted platitudes about love, about how you should love everything and how all are one in the force. But they did not understand what it actually meant to love another. Look at Yoda's conversation with Anakin, how clearly dissatisfied Anakin was with the answers he was getting. Was this because Anakin was an evil person? No, he loved people! He loved his mother which is why he took revenge for her, he loved his wife which is why he would do anything to save her.

And the Jedi said: Love thy enemy, one must learn to let go of what one loves.

The secret of the chosen one is that Anakin was actually a normal person, a normal person put into an order of weird monks. Qui-Gon, who Lucas inserted as a 'true' ideal of the Jedi was known to be a renegade, he was known to be loyal to people, to bend the rules. Qui-Gon speaks to Yoda and Obi-Wan during their exile, they formulate the teachings for a new generation. Luke is not taught to evade or sublimate his emotions, he is taught to face them. And it is not his passivity, his stoic disregard for emotions that grant him victory over his father, it is his ability to stare into the abyss, take himself to the edge but unlike Windu, pull back. It was his love, the same love that laid low the Jedi which allowed him to turn his father and allowed the destruction of the Sith in turn.
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>>68807236
Practically Jewish
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Hack.

Gilbert Taylor, Marcia Lucas, Richard Chew, Paul Hirsch, Rick Baker, John Williams, and dozens of other people involved in Star Wars's production deserve as much, if not more, credit for the movie's quality than Lucas.

You can't deny that Lucas was really smart in dealing with Roy Thomas at Marvel (Stan Lee didn't want to touch a Star Wars, and only published it because Lucas was so desperate that he gave Marvel the license for free) and Kenner, though.
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>>68810555

>They know that suffering is fertilizer for the soul and that Lucas is a master gardener.
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>>68807236
Talentless hack. The stars aligned for him with Star Wars, and his Flash Gordon script got turned into a blockbuster by talented craftsman and an amazing producer (Gary Kurtz).
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>>68817071
>this is what non-creative sheep actually believe
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