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What was the point of this scene? Shock value?
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What was the point of this scene? Shock value?
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What was she going to do with that whip?
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>>68772509
This entire episode could've been left out or at least shortened to 10 minutes with little consequence
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>>68772509
Removing all the characters with potential for development and leaving the characters that have been a complete trainwreck.

It seems to have been more a decision about how much each actor is getting paid rather than what is actually good for the story.
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poosi
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>>68772509
To prove that Ellaria has killed all successors to the throne and is in charge.
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I could have directed and written this scene better when I was in high school. Holy fucking shit.
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>>68772543
there's a lot you can do with a whip.
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I'M A WOMYN HEAR ME ROAR
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>>68772509
when he grabbed his sword I thought maybe the kid has some skill, and then he fucking turned his back to that spear cunt, what a fucking idiot
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>>68772509
To give those of us with erotic asphyxiation fetishes some fap material
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>>68772843
Yep, for a second here I thought to myself "Ha, thank God this show is not THAT much shit or else that bitch would just stab him" and then she stabbed him in the back of his head.
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>>68772509
to show stronk womyn in acione
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government enforced gender quotas
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skulls arent that fragile desu
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To remind the audience that women lack any decency or honor
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What a joke of a bodyguard.
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>>68773045
Back of the head is super vulnerable desu

Still, the scene was garbage
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>>68773105
Funny thing considering Aero is such a badass in the books, I hope Martin don't kill him off in such a pathetic way.
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>>68772509
To crash the Dorne arc with no survivors rather than salvage it. It's painfully obvious that the shitty plot decisions of S5 and this were written in for budget convenience rather than compelling storytelling.
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>>68773045
they are when you have the full force of a stronk womyn behind a symbolic phallic weapon.
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Why are the rest of the guards just standing and watching the two girls kill a big menacing black guard with a massive weapon and their king?

The rest of the courtyard is filled with guards whose job is what? To stand in the courtyard and chill?
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>>68773181
because they were a. bought and part of the coup or b. they hated him like the whore implied and were ok with what was happening.
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>>68772509
like that one general said, "culling the cast"

they're just killing off characters they either aren't smart enough to use or just don't feel like continuing with to make it easier on themselves, at least they died and didn't get gendry'd
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>>68773181
they're using the people in the show to further their goal
>GoT is about WOMYN now
>these men have accpeted the reign of the sneks, so you must too
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>>68773181
She says that le people are with her. Why the messenger wasn't I dunno.
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>>68773129

yeah i have no doubt that she'd kill him but it wouldnt go clean through his head like that, she doesnt look anywhere near strong enough
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>>68773260
that wasn't a messenger, they killed the maester
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>>68772509
WTF look at her grip on that spear, she isn't going to shove that through anybody's head.

Look at where her left arm is poistioned, she is going to have to stab with her entire upper body now instead of using her arms, fucking dumb bitch can't even get the basics of stabbing people right.


Oh and they both look so fucking unfit too, look at those weak flabby armos on the right.
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>>68772509
Never watched this. So what's going on? The two girls gang up and kill the guy?
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GURL POWER
lol quip
shock death

The optimist in me hopes it's just culling the entire storyline from the show

The pessimist it's the writer's deciding they need storyline that's empowering to women so they're going to be BADASS and they'll keep showing everyone how awesome they are.

>I am going to avenge my brother, I will do this by killing everyone he loves and by ending his bloodline!
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>>68772831

"hey these women betrayed me big time before!"
"I know, I'll keep them close and won't even search them for weapons!".

The writing is fucking cancer.
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>>68773260
>She says that le people are with her.

people yeah, but fucking personal guards, how can the personal guards be with some whore staging a coup without ANYONE getting a hint of it, ANYONE, and it's not one guard, or two, but the whole fucking order of kings guards. the fuck was this guy doing the whole day. If I had people watching my ass, I would know where those people shit, eat, drink and fuck every fucking minute of the day.
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"we don't kill little girls"
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>>68772509
>spearwhore's belly is billowing over that tight ass stomach belt belt like a fucking trashbag full of melted marshmellows and making a crazy muffin top

could they not even have bothered to get fitter women? you'd think persian-esque warrior princesses that have a healthy diet of fruits, vegetables, and high protein meat that spend all day training and taking oil baths with eachother would atleast be sub 15% body fat holy shit

this show is like a fucking car crash in slow motion
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A whip isn't a weapon, it's utterly inconceivable that anyone would ever use one in a fight as anything other than a last resort.
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How did they get onto the boat when they were clearly watching it leave earlier?
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>>68772509
EET WUSS FOR DE SNEKS
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>>68773353

Her left arm is completely extended, top kek.

Do they not have any fucking advisors on this show?
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I hope this means we get less Dorne and more Iron Islands in the rest of the season, if they complete ignore Dorne from now on it'll be perfect.
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>>68773572
>it's another boat
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>>68773543
whips can definitely be used as weapons, but not in the cabin of a personal ship, what the fuck was she thinking? there is literally no room in that tiny ass compartment to swing that thing around, what if he had just lunged at her and sliced her ass up? she wouldn't have been able to defend herself
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>>68773572
>Where did the dogs go?
>Why did Melisandre not wear her necklace in that bath scene?

I'll call it poor writing anon
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These are the arms of a strong woman
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>>68773610

Not a fucking chance, they've built them up to be STRONK INDEPENDENT WOMYN, you can be sure we'll get to see then continually outfox the male led Lannister army.
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Not enought Badpussyfu in the episode tho, made me sad.
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>>68772509
hella f*ckin epic
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>>68773644
These are the arms of one of the most feared warriors in all of Dorne
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>>68773621
you can use a whip in more ways than just a whip
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>>68772669
>>68772509
>>68772831
>>68773353
>>68773687
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>>68773353
its a photo op of the scene.
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>>68772509
he really should've turned around suddenly and stabbed her in the face before killing the defenceless whip girl.
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Well, when a problem comes along...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIEVqFB4WUo
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>>68772509
>aiming a spear at someone's head and not their abdomen
literally retarded
also
>whip vs sword
why
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>>68772843
I didn't think he had skill but it made me like because at least he had courage, unlike the stronk women
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I was never a massive fan of the whole "dicking around in Dorne" because it was basically a bunch of shit happening undone with the whole mention of Fire and Blood.

But my God was the show even worse. What was the fucking point of any of it. Characters we barely fucking have been shown suddenly doing shit no one is invested in.
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>>68773709
yeah, you can strangle yourself to death with it for choosing such a stupid fucking weapon
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>"They butchered those characters. My daughters. Fucked them up. And wrapped them in shitty dialogue. And my brother..
>You know what they did with him?"
I'm asking you a question
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>>68773105
Couldn't smell danger when it was masked by the smell of bad poosay.
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At first i thought "wow that kid is smart, he chose to fight retardina with whip (shit weapon) compared to his stylish rapier" and than he turned back to the spearshnek.... fuk
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>>68772509
look at how that nigger is standing with that sword. do you see how he's fucking standing? that's not how you hold that kind of sword.
do you see how badpoosey is holding that spear and how she's standing? she's off balance and her arm is extended, so she wouldn't be able to do shit if the guy took one step forward.

fuck this show. this guy is supposed to be a noble and he can't hold a sword right? that would literally take less than 10 fucking seconds if he were standing correctly

god even the star wars prequels had better choreography than this bullshit
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>replacing some of the best actors in the series with the worst
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This scene was gore for gores sake because that's what most of the viewership have come to expect.

Also anyone who couldn't tell what was going to happen should stop watching TV
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>be me, the Prince of dorne
>lannisters kill my aunt and her babies
>after years of planning, my father hooks me up with the king's qt sister
>we'll finally be able to have #justiceforelia
>oberyn dies in a trial by combat that he willingly participated in
>oh fugg
>his paramour wants vengeance
>kills my waifu, ruins our plans
>kills mi papi
>kills beautiful, innocent, baby Areoh Hotah, one of the most skillful fighters in westeros, with a blunt dagger
>my cousins, who I was raised with and love very much, kill me, then fucking quip about it like i'm the asshole that raped and killed our aunt and then their father
>MFW
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>>68773611
Average to Small white Penis Man is back!

>>68773953
Usually that's a big danger sign.
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>>68772509
>ywn be sexually dominated by snekgirls
;_;
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>>68774059
fuck off dnd drone
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>>68773452

He said at the end of the last season "He believes in second chances, he does not in thirds" forgiving her completely.

She knew what to expect from him if she swayed again, which is why she went straight to kill him.
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>>68773353
>>68773531
>>68773594
This is something that happens a lot in media. A character is talked about or otherwise bigged up to be a good fighter and then when a fight actually happens it looks retarded because the actor doesn't know what they're doing.

The S5 fight scene between Jaime, Bronn and the Snakes for example. It's so poorly choreographed, they all just flail about like idiots, and there's no way that two professional fighters wouldn't be able to immediately overpower three girls half their size and weight.

I'd compare it unfavorably to Rob Roy, where Liam Neeson's character is portrayed throughout the film as only being able to win through trickery and cunning, so when an actual fight happens at the end he's hopelessly outmatched.

There are ways to do this properly bur people give GoT a pass for whatever reason. It's Power Rangers tier stuff
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>>68774191
So he's a fucking retard
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>>68774006
>this guy is supposed to be a noble and he can't hold a sword right?
Was I the only one who thought he wasn't taking this seriously before he was killed?

Why would he assume his cousins (and they had been shown together before in the show, I am sure) would randomly murder him? The show never gave any indications that disliked each other in the least. When they first came in he even said something like he wasn't hungry, so maybe they had been hanging out for a while after they teleported?
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>>68774127
Just strangle me with a whip already
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>>68774006
The girl behind him is supposed to be an assassin that only uses a spear (because those exist) and look at her stance. At least with the guy he wasn't supposed to be some sort of amazing fighter.
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>Gritty show about nihilism
>Meaningful scenes

Wow you people are retarded
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>>68773611
You're putting a lot of effort into seeing a show from a very silly angle.
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>>68774094
This show has a thing for killing characters that are supposed to be super strong in pathetic ways, Barristan Selmy, Sandor Clegane and now Aero Hotah. I wonder who will be next, probably Loras Tyrell.
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>>68774361
Show Loras isn't shown to be a good fighter and he has gay plot armor.
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>>68772509
>WE MUST AVENGE OUR BUTCHERED FAMILY MEMBERS
>BY BUTCHERING MORE OF OUR FAMILY MEMBERS

DnD aren't even trying anymore.
You could see them desperately struggling last season with the Dorne plot, but this honestly felt like an admission that they have no clue what they're doing and simply don't care
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>>68774361
wow you homophobe
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>>68774425
To be fair he was never show fighting, Loras is canonically one of the strongest swordsman in Westeros, he could even rival Jaime at his prime.
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>>68774428
>no clue what they're doing and simply don't care
That's the truth of it, but I just don't understand why they didn't use a simplified version of the Arianne plot. It would please book autists and it would make far more sense than this shit. It would be less work for them too, just simplify the story and go for it.

If anything the sandsnakes should have been cut.
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>>68773181
Did you even watch the episode?

I hated everything to do with Dorne, but that was explained
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>>68774471
He was shown getting his ass kicked by Brienne if I recall correctly.
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>>68774361
At least the Hound got a decent-length fight scene and also isn't dead GET HYPE
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>>68774471
I thought he was better at jousting. Anyway, the show took all of that away and made him a complete manslut, so we don't know of his fighting abilities in the show.
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>>68774258
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>>68774565
I want Tyene to peg my bad boypussy while Nymeria chokes me with her whip and makes me suck her strapon
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>>68774326
S
D E M O N
D E M O N
D E M O N
D E M O N

Mary elizabeth winstead is cute. CUTE.
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>>68774512
At this point I don't even question why characters like Tyrion and Varys walk city streets with an armed entourage considering how guards are completely useless.
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>>68774326
>nihilism erases emotion

you're the retard here friend
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>>68774633
DON'T POST LEWD COMMENTS ABOUT MY WAIFU REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>68774633
wow. the formatting totally failed.
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>>68773944
..I've heard rumors
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>>68774659
>At this point I don't even question why characters like Tyrion and Varys walk city streets without**** an armed entourage considering how guards are completely useless.
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>>68774659
I don't even know why Kingsguard still exists when Jaime is widely known as Kingslayer.
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>>68774006
It's pretty difficult to not get autistic about the sword use in this show. Seriously wtf. In season 1 the stunt choregrapher was pretty enthuseastic and had the Starks fight in a different style than the Lanniester, like in the fight between Ned and Jaime.

Now they're just decided that anything goes and don't even care anymore.

But the whole premise for this was retarded. A guy with a rapier vs spear or whip in a confined space? Rapier would btfo the whip girl instantly. She has nothing to put as a defence even. What the fuck.

Also the guy who got stabbed in the back before he killed pod, when he slumped over he had a fucking shield right where he was stabbed.
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I honestly believe they chose to kill those guys off because they wanted a shocking moment in the premier, so wrote in something so retarded and nonsensical, nobody could have seen it coming.
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>>68774626
s-same
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>>68774326
>nihilism
>some characters have obvious plot armor

That'd be insulting for people who actually know the term. GoT doesn't have any philosophical theme, it simply flips heroes always win to heroes always lose.
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>>68772599
/thread
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>>68774758
GoT is hovering at maybe half a notch above Hercules/Xena at this point.
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>>68774760
That and they wanted to abandon the Dorne plotline as soon as possible. What better way than to kill off any sort of conflict there.

Fully expect to hear that Dorne supports Dany when she finally arrives at Westeros but don't actually expect to ever see any of these characters again.
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>>68773611
Fuck me you have to be truly braindead to think Cersei is anything but a villain.

Yeah shes sad at the moment cos her kids are dropping like flies but that don't change the fact that shes still the same vindictive, vile piece of human garbage that she was at the beginning of the show.
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>>68774512
It isn't effective storytelling just because it's explained in the most obvious way possible. They were just screaming out their motivation that he's a coward and that all of a sudden Dorne doesn't have cowards as rulers when nothing like that existed as a Dornish custom before the scene and we've never even seen or heard the people or buildings that are ok with the coup.

They could have developed the unrest over Doran last season, shown, or anything that felt natural, but it was literally just shouted out to you and felt fake as fuck that the guards were ok with Elia Martell being avenged by her entire high lord family getting killed by a lower born bastard woman.
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>>68774679
Nihilism erases the meaning to emotion, not emotions itself doofus.

>>68774793
>Literally doesn't see a nihilist theme in heroes always losing

WOW
O
W
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>>68774910
Two of the sneks are still in King's Landing, right? I mean Kevan Lannister is still alive, if the writers want to tie some loose ends this is the perfect opportunity.
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>>68774926
neither of those guys but again that isn't Nihilism.

You're a pleb
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>>68774910
I doubt it, why would they overthrow the fucking monarchy instead of having Doran execute them all like he should've after finding out, then it could realistically just stay on the patience track.
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https://youtu.be/kG2o1GBZj1A

Is this from Xena or Hercules?
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>>68772831

>Woman stabs man in the back who isn't paying attention and kills him
>Woman kills sickly old man who is bound to a wheelchair

WOW THIS IS SUCH SJW SHIT WOMEN KILLING MEN HOW UNREALISTIC.

Complain about something valid desu.
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>>68773105

SAVE ME GREY WORM!
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>>68774926
>Nihilism erases the meaning to emotion, not emotions itself doofus.

That's right. GoT is about emotions of random character in a nihilistic setup, that's why things can still appear meaningful
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>>68772509
Who the fuck was this guy? Why did he die?

Jesus Christ this show is garbage.
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>>68772599
>It seems to have been more a decision about how much each actor is getting paid rather than what is actually good for the story.

This is why American media needs to start following the Mexican Soap Opera approach.

Film the ENTIRE series with established salary figures so the actors don't get uppity in between seasons.

The motherfuckers start overvaluing themselves and think they're too good to do anything the story requires.
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>>68774793

>Hahaha! Evil guys are winning, bet you didn't see that coming, now did you?
No. No I didn't. :^)
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>>68775003
He literally died because he was a man.
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>>68774959
They are on a boat travelling back to Dorne and nobody knows they are on that boat.

>>68774965
Because then people would be expecting the big dornish master plan to be hatched. Now all you have is 4 women that vaguely want to kill the Lannisters.
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>>68772509
>what are you doing here
>we are here to kill you
>okay
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>kill off the three most interesting characters on Dorne and leave the sand sneks alive
I didn't even like the kid but he still deserved better than that.
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Does this mean the martell line is officially dead? Only the sandsnakes are alive but they are bastards.
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>>68775059
Rich
Handome
Straight
Young
Cis
Male


too bad he wasnt white aswell
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>>68775003
he was the cripple's son and he would have been the heir to the throne or whatever. The sneks considered him weak like the crippled and to complete the coup he had to go.
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>>68775091

The worst part is that now I know for sure that the entire dorne subplot involving Quentin is worthless.
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If the main writers of Game of Thrones wanted a shocking death to kick off the season they could have just fucking committed suicide.

That way we'd be shocked AND pleased!
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Why did the crows leave Jon's body in the snow like that, when they know he could come back as a white walker and fuck their shit up?

How did nobody see him getting stabbed by a group of people when they were in the middle of an open courtyard that pretty much every room in the castle overlooks?
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>>68775078
>travelling back to Dorne

Nigga Trystanne was painting those cerimonial eye things for Myrcella, he wasn't going back to Dorne. The boat was probably just anchored.
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>>68772509
To make you cheer when Darkstar arrives to kill them and take power.
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>>68775019
Good guys don't win, bad guys do!
Whaddatwist!!
GRRM is the Shymalan of /lit/
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>>68774361

>Sandor Clegane
>dead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FGT7NzqDRU
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will sand sneks be btfo in the finale? they obviously aren't meant to be heroes
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>>68775181
Nigga you think Trystanne was planning on staying in kings landing when jaime very specifically said that Cercei would suspect him and that he was sending him back to Dorne?

Is that what you think?

>what about the stones tho
D&D are hacks they think mhysa is valyrian for mother and that slaves half way across the world can read english.
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>>68775186

Oh gods,

We've gotten to the point when Darkstar would make the Dorne subplot good
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>Sneks vs Tuante Gudman

Who wins?
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>>68772831
I really hope this is a divergence from the books, I wan't him to take over westeros.
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>>68775254
I hope they get BTFO by the Mountain. I also hope Olly gets BTFO by the end of the season.
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>>68774361
So, if this season's D&D were doing Season 1, how would Ned have died?
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>>68775482
Stabbed by Cersei after she kills Barristan with her bare hands.
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>>68775482
yeah Ned would still be dead
They're only fucking it up royally now that they have no books to base it off.

Ned would still be dead but this era DnD would have found a stupider way of doing it. Maybe assassination over execution. BECAUSE YOU NEVER SAW THAT COMING!!!!!
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>>68775482
It would have been shown that really Ned Stark was just a power hungry cunt that wanted to throne to himself and Brienne would have stumbled onto the execution and be asked by Jaime to take his head herself as one final blow to his sexist ego.
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>>68775482
murdered by a bunch of whores at cia's brothel
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>>68775619
>They're only fucking it up royally now that they have no books to base it off.
Bullshit, they started ruining things (granted, in smaller increments) ever since season 2 with that Talisa bullshit. And it's not as if they didn't have plenty of material to work with even up to now, they just decided to cut all of it for their own bullshit OC.

This isn't to say that they should have included everything from the books, but they certainly could have included more than they did and left out their own bullshit. The entire Dorne situation is an example of that. They had a perfectly fine book scenario that could have easily been simplified for the show and instead we got shitty sandsnakes that everyone hates.

No idea what they are thinking but whatever it is, it is deliberate.
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>>68775482
Killed by Robb so Robb could be King in the North
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>>68772509
>What was the point of this scene?

To demonstrate Dornish maesters have developed transporters with Prince Dr. Bashir's help.
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Where was he?
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>>68773644
I must crush you
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>>68774967
I'll buy le cripple Jamie having trouble there but Bronn should have beheaded Double Daggers and mouth-fucked Spear Girl in about three seconds flat.
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>>68775736
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>>68776311
It's a solid theory. It also explains how he changed his clothes between being stabbed and being on the ground.

It's all a holodeck simulation.
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>>68774967
they need to seriously stop using the "I sense someone swinging a sword at me from behind so I'm going to defend it precisely without even looking" move.
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>>68775411
It's a massive divergence. In the books Ellaria doesn't want revenge and is always on Doran's side. The Sneks work against him until he convinces them that their plans are fucking stupid and they should help him with his master revenge plan instead. Then he sends them off to King's Landing and other places to spy for him and fuck shit up.
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>>68775411
Eh he'll probably join Aegon and get fucked over by Dany. Arriane, Trystane, or extinction will be the fate of the Martells.
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>>68772509
quips
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>>68773744
Ha ha is that from the dark knight?
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>>68776369

why don't they just stop filming everything so you don't get your autism all irritated? I HATE NOTICING THINGS! THERE'S A PERSON IN THIS SCENE, I"VE SEEN THAT SO MANY TIMES BEFORE!
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>>68776590
that's a really stupid reply m8.
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>>68775144
It could just be the show's way of saving screentime. I think once Doran finds out Quentyn is dead, he might not follow through with his plan for revenge.
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yes, they know they have nothing good anymore at this point but they remember that everyone freaked out over ned and red wedding and all, so they're hoping to keep the show afloat with that
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>>68776590
Lmao who gets this defensive over GOT of all things?
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>>68775153
To become a wight, he'd need to be touched by an Other/white walker. It was also at night, so I doubt anyone would be looking, especially with winter so close and on such small rations. Most NW members are miserable right now.
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>>68772509
>fighting in heels
>cqc whip
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>>68776776
>To become a wight, he'd need to be touched by an Other/white walker.
No, they don't. They can raise the dead merely by proximity. In the books its noted that when wildlings camp, sometimes the Others get near them (as in, watching them from nearby trees or something) and can kill people by making it colder and then raise them from a distance.
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>>68773105
>MASTAH DOAN
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>>68775378
This is probably the most depressing post in this thread
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>>68776811
Oh. I haven't read the books in a year, so I forgot. But it seems unlikely that Jon will turn into a wight.
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>>68776311
is he costanzaposting?
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>>68773744
crashing the ratings
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>>68773105
Arya hold her ground longer than Areo
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>>68776365
>he changed his clothes between being stabbed and being on the ground.
I watched this scene like three times and I still don't know what people mean. He's wearing a mute green outfit with a gold scarf in both parts.
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>>68772599
blame GRRM for routinely killing off the interesting characters to make room for his pets
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*teleports behind u* heh........nothing personnel....kid
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>>68773235
GoT has always been about influential women
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>>68774967
What the fuck, that looks so awful, how is this show so well renowned
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>>68777030
>GoT has always been about influential women ruining things
FTFY
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>>68773181
The stupidest thing about this is the fact Doran was implied to be a good ruler, wise and smart, not one to act on impulses by going to war over small things, to ultimately protect his people and not drag them into a pointless conflict. Yet here it's suddenly changed to "Hey you know all those royal guards who you've probably known for decades and share a brotherly bond with? Yeah they ALL hate you now because we like bribed them or something so they're going to stand here and watch you die." It's just pathetic.
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Do Dumb and Dumber even realize that they turned the sand sneks into psychopaths? literal psychopaths? I mean, somehow you get the feel that you're supposed to root for them, that they are pwning the evil patriarchy, but in all honesty they come out as completely lacking in empathy, love for their kin, and all matter of emotions. They stab the cousin they lived with their entire lives in the back of his head, and their only response is "lol u took muh kill, greedy bitch!". Complete psychopaths who don't show even the faintest clue that they are bothered by butchering their family members. There's no "it's for the greater good", no "it was a necessary evil", there is just quips.

And the feminist crowd supports those psychopaths.
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so why do we keep watching got when its shit
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>>68777110
Welcome to 2016. Everyone is a psychopath.
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WHY KILL TRYSTANE

WHY

WHAT THE FUCK DID TRYSTANE DO

HE'S LITERALLY YOUR INNOCENT COUSIN WHY THE FUCK DO YOU SHOW NO REMORSE KILLING HIM

HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>68777110
>And the feminist crowd supports those psychopaths.
Do you really care that much about what feminists support?

Do you think that feminism actually has an impact on the world?
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>>68772509
killing the white cis male patriarchy
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>>68772669
Just because she killed off all martels doesn't mean she's in charge. Realistically thee would be a civil war in dorne between noble houses for an oportuniy to become a new great house. The four whores would be executed by a new emerging house to demonstrate that treason would not be tolerated. But that would happen in a world whe hack and hack can into logic, so don't get your hopes up
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>>68777206
because le stronk independant womyn and quipping in the hottest new meme
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>>68777210
>Do you really care that much about what feminists support?
/tv/ had daily threads raging about an all chick version of Ghostbusters. I think this culture "war" is basically his whole life at this point.
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>>68777110
>And the feminist crowd supports those psychopaths

I know a feminist IRL and she thinks that whole episode was garbage. She says watching the sand snakes is cringey.
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>>68777206
because he would have replaced the crippled. Why is this hard to understand?
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>>68777210
>Do you think that feminism actually has an impact on the world?

They do, even if it's mostly in media, it's still ruining good shows and movies. Also, I'd like to think that feminists at least hold a shred of decency and empathy, but no, apparently they just want to kill men, there's nothing about morals and justice in their creed.
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>>68777247
You should probably read the books
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>Ned
>Hound
>Stannis
>Tywin
Why do they kill of all the best characters? How long to Jorah, Davos and Roose have?
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>>68776893
That's beside the point, everyone at castle black knew about a corpse turning into a wight.
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>>68777321
That's because she is a dumb feministas that is oblivious to the jewish agenda
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>>68777206
Because he is male. That is honestly it. The whole point of show Dorne is females taking over because the "males are weak". Which is fucking laughable, because one of the (retarded) reasons you most commonly hear why females should rule IRL is because there'd be no more war, no more conflicts, no more violence etc.

This is the complete opposite, these kinslaying female bastards want to take over because the man currently in charge don't want to wage a bloody and pointless war, and his son isn't some violent psychopath either so he has to go too.
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>>68777206

They're just cunts, m8.
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>>68772543
Actually, both spear and whip would logically be horrible weapon choices for what they were doing in such close quarters.
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>>68777409
We never should have allowed cunts to vote. FUCKING FEMINIST PIECES OF SHIT I CAN'T TAKE THIS ANYMORE!!!
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>>68772509
Sealing up the Dorne line without any more terrible Sand Snakes fight scenes.
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>>68777366
> mfw when sneks are apparently more psychotic and sociopathic than ramsey who showed at least some emotion over the death of the person he grew up with.
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>>68777247
>Just because she killed off all martels

How can she really kill off 'all the Martels'? Unless the great houses of Westeros are only 2 or 3 generations deep, it doesn't make much sense to me.

I agree with the rest of your point though. Dorne should really be thrown into civil-war.
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>>68774238
Only in the series. In the books he's the only Dornishman who seems to be level-headed and trying to beat the main players at their own game instead of going MUH VENGEANCE bullshit.
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>>68777381
You should probably shut the fuck up, because i did, and we're talking about the show here, retard.
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>>68777369
>ruining good shows and movies

if inserting women into the show makes it bad, I think the issue is with you and not the materiel
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>>68777453
do you honestly think anyone falls for your weak forum sliding?
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>>68777210
They're so ridiculous that we all at one point thought no one would care about them, but the media overexposed them and there's an obvious leftist agenda behind them.
Now they're pressuring university campi and are even pushing lawmakers to bid their will.
Do not for one second underestimate their power, they are organized and well funded.
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>>68777453
Sorry, I should have said "why only females should rule IRL". This is not a rant on women, it's a rant on the retarded writing of the show.
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>>68777366
>he would have replaced the crippled

Right, and been a weak as fuck King who could have been bent and twisted to their will. It makes far more sense to use him as a puppet then outright kill him, considering how strong his claim to the throne is.

I'm doubting Dorne's succession system is designed so that whoever kills the King becomes the new monarch.
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>>68777518
Inserting Mary Sues who are unrealistically strong and win all the time is ruining good shows and movies, yes.
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>>68777489
In show-verse it is established that the only martels left were oberyn, doran and trystane. All are dead. Just because there are some people who have martel blood in them doesn't make them martels. It simply gives them a better claim over those who don't.
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>>68777555
>This is not a rant on women, it's a rant on the retarded writing of the show.
It should be both. You really think they would be pandering to women this way if women had any say in society? Like I said, we never should have just handed cunts the right to vote.
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>>68777518
What about changing the reasoning for Jon's death?
>a strong sense of honor is what causes the night's watch to betray Jon, how can we convey that David?
>just make them hate immigrants.
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>>68773217
you'd think if everyone in dorne including the fucking prince's bodyguards were completely ok with him being killed so they could start a war they would have just killed doran themselves and started a war by that point

fucking hell
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>>68777571
Which is all the more hilarious when you consider Seven Kingdoms JUST went through a war of pretenders claiming the Iron Throne. You'd think no one would want a repeat of that scenario resulting in a Dorne civil war.
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>>68777571
or they could just kill him and take the seat like it has been done all throughout the GoT universe and not have to deal with his free will. And the shitty writing laid out the coup and how accepting people would be of it.
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Man I invested too much time into this shit show so I can't stop watching.
At least the memes are dank
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>>68777489
All males with surname Martel are dead, therfore the Martel line is dead , unless some bastard is legitmate i think
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>>68777623
*had no say in society
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>>68777110
All the more satisfying when they get GRRM'ed
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>>68777635
Thats not what happened though

>>68777593
Mary Sue doesn't always imply its a female character

Plenty of shows have bad male characters but nobody ever bitches about having too many men
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>>68776651
>Dead

No, he's riding a dragon right now and will save kings landing. Prove me wrong
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Friendly reminder that Darkstar is manipulating the sand sluts into eliminating the Dornish monarchy in order for him to take the throne. And once he does, he will execute the sand sluts with Dawn and say "pssst...nothing personnell..."
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>>68772509
>he allows her to go behind him
WOW, SUCH GENIUS. I swear D&D can't write for shit
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>>68777110
>we avenge murder of our kinsmen
>by assassination of another kinsmen
sandsnakelogic.jpeg
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>>68777760
Gary Stu or Marty Stu is generally used for the male equivalent.

>Plenty of shows have bad male characters but nobody ever bitches about having too many men
Aside from the entire feminist movement which has been doing exactly that for the past twenty years and the many people who have made careers out of doing exactly that.
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>>68777760
>Thats not what happened though
Then what happened?
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>>68775145
Never seen a post so criminally underrated as this one. I will reply to this multiple times to honour it.
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Worst part is that the Sand Snakes will probably survive the series. Seriously. Think about that.
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>>68773353
>expecting women to do anything right but shopping
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>>68777648
Especially how in the scene they claim to have the support of the Dornish people, right as they thrust them into an inevitable war. I understand that Ellaria is mad and wants revenge, but it's strange that a bunch of lowborn would really give a shit. Even stranger that they would support a Queen taking over, rather than another noble house.

>>68777654
>they could just kill him and take the seat
How does that work though? A woman bastard with three of her own bastards kills the King and just gets to be Queen now?

Or they could rule through him like Cersei's done twice now, and the old lady from House Tyrell is also.
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>>68775145
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>>68777094
>>68773181
the whole scene was so weird
it would have even been justified if a couple of the guards turned around and killed other guards

but no, apparently all the personal guards were in on it.....so why didn't they kill him sooner? the only opposition was 1 black guy who is killed in 1 stab (which you could do while he was sleeping if you were in the personal guard of the king)
they just looked so strange standing there not showing any emotion whatsoever, like the completely zoned out and weren't even paying attention
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To wipe out the Martells. Can you think of a better way to honor and avenge Oberyn and win over Dorne?
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I just want "bad poosay" woman to get topless again , the possibility alone justifies all that Dorne shit plot we getting.
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>>68772509
STRONG INDEPENDENT WOMYN.
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Was bad pussy in the episode ?
she's such a qt
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>>68778008
I guess you could argue that it was premeditated?

Which still doesn't really make sense because the assassination seemed really impulsive. They only stabbed him after he read the note, because he would have fucking crucified them for starting a war.
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>>68778049
>avenge Oberyn
>by killing what's left of his family

Brilliant!
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>>68777029
*black lightning shoots off my blade as i unsheath it from its katana holder "you have no idea do you?...tst" lifts up blade slowly and starts circling you with glow trails coming from my eyes "tst....BAKA" teleports forward cutting you in halth*
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>>68778105
Of course it was premeditated, why else would Obara and Nym be on the boat taking out Trystane?

But the writers and directors are shit and think everything is good so long as it's unexpected, even if they have to have it make no fucking sense whatsoever to be unexpected.
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Do women ever die in this show? Or are they all stronk independent womyn who don't need no man?
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>>68778186
*it was a clone*
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>>68773380
You know what pisses me off the most? HE TOOK THE FIGHT OF HIS OWN VOLITION, AND IT WAS HIS OWN FAULT HE FUCKING LOST

why the fuck is she talking about revenge for him being a complete fuck-up? and why has no one else on the show said this to her?
there is no "revenge" at all, that's like me swearing revenge to the owner of a house because I hurt my head by smashing my face against the wall

Oberyn completely caused his own death and she decided to kill his brother and nephew (and end the family line) because they knew it was his fault and aren't being retarded about the whole affair

I just want the whole plotline to disappear, it's so shit and barely thought out
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>>68774967
that part at 0:42 when the spear girl twirls around kills me every time
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>>68777956
>How does that work though? A woman bastard with three of her own bastards kills the King and just gets to be Queen now?
yes, because it's a work of fiction with dragons and zombies, so a whore taking over the throne is the least incredible thing happening.
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>>68778181
Someone needs to do one of those old "genius" photos with the sand sluts
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>>68774967
Good point. Skinny women beating grown men would make sense on Xena, which is tongue-in-cheek. But GOT is supposed to be realistic aside from the magic.
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>>68774967
i like how the girls seem scared of their own weapons, haha
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>>68778216
No. The saying goes "All men must die", not women.
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>>68778216
Of course.

There are two kinds of women in the show. Normal women and the Überwomensch. The normal woman loves a man. She has strengths and weaknesses, she does great deeds and sometimes also fucks up. But then she either dies for the crime of loving a man, or the man she loves dies. This leads to one of two outcomes, she either fails the test and dies, or she is reborn as the Überwomensch, a woman beyond reproach who can do no wrong and have no fault, who has the strength and will to alter reality itself through sheer force of uteral power.
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>>68778239
*the clone evaperates infront of my sword and i snicker "is that your best jutsu...pathetic" lifts up sword to the sky and the black lightning hits the clouds making the ground shake "time to end this little boy" larva comes out from the ground in the shape o the japanese letter for death and burns all the clones and invisible thingd around me but not hurting me*
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>>68778254

She does a move which leaves her completely unable to react at the same time as exposing her back to him.

It's fucking terrible.
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>>68778292
I hope you're joking.
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>>68778292
>hurr it's fantasy just go with it
The entire story has its roots in the war of the roses and the rest of medieval English history. GRRM spent years making houses, sub-houses, vassals and all that other shit, so the writing should be called out when it doesn't make any sense.
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>The Hound isn't dead
Please God let this be true. Haven't read the books but The Hound was one of my favourite characters.
I miss the days of Ary 'n' The Grande
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>>68778430
*teleports behind you when the lava goes away* pssh... nothin personell kid
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>>68773744
CRASHING THIS PLOT

WITH ALL SHIT WRITERS
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>>68772509
Character development is my guess, it shows how ruthless these women are and this scene gives us more impact on the Dorne situation.
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>>68778505
heh.....*teleports behind you when you teleport behind me* baka.....
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