2>3>1
This is not open for debate
Wow OP normally people prefer the exact opposite.
Edgy contrarian.
1 has the best structure, best story telling and best world building. 3 and 2 are just shitty CGI battles.
>>68772278
>le contrarian face XD
>>68772278
you're doing it wrong
the contrarian opinion is 2>1>3
This is open for debate.
1>3>2
Fellowship is by far the comfiest and damn near perfect.
>>68772580
>3 and 2 are just shitty CGI battles.
Very little of the battles are CGI, though. Are you thinking of the Hobbit, maybe?
>>68772580
>3 and 2 are just shitty CGI battles
Hmmm
lotr 3 > hobbit 3 > hobbit 1 > lotr 1 > hobbit 2 > lotr 2
>>68772628
this is the correct answer
>>68772662
Every wide shot of an army or large crowd in LOTR is more than likely CGI
>>68772580
>shitty CGI battles
Helm's Deep is one of the best, if not the best, cinematic battle scene of the era
>>68772278
cinema version > extended
prove me wrong
>>68772728I prefer Amon Hen tbqh
kino ranking: 1 > 2 = 3
>>68772278
>Fellowship last
Do you have a fucking brain tumor?
>>68772759
>cinema version > extended
Fellowship: Extended > theatrical
The other two: Theatrical > Extended
I still prefer watching the extended version of all three anyway.
>Faramir is an uncertain idiot who kidnaps Frodo for no reason then changes his mind
No thanks
>>68772774
lol no
2 already has all the annoying shit about gollum but without the awesomeness in the Return of the king
>>68772640
goddamn this man is correct
>>68772759
>>68772759
personal preference
>>68772774
correct
Fellowship was a yawnfest
>>68773003
Your opinion is shit
>>68772278
As I get older, I find myself more and more inclined to agree with the guys that say that first one is the best.
Fuck, realizing this right now has made me feel strange.
Is this a comfy LOTR thread I see?
>>68772714
Yes but those are few and far between. What the fuck do you want them to do, actually hire 30k extras and suit them up in armor?
Every shot that actually matters has human actors in armor or makeup riding real horses. The Hobbit just did CGI for fucking EVERYTHING. Even human looking characters like Dain were made CGI for some reason.
>>68772278
>3 better than 1
HOLY SHIT HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>68773400
Calm down pal. I never said it was bad. It actually still holds up nicely in most places. And yeah, the Hobbit was overdone garbage.
>>68772662
>le LotR doesn't use CGI meme
My favourite
>>68772278
2=1>3
1 has no flaws, the only flaw in two towers is pic related but Helms Deep being so good makes up for it.
>>68772834
>Annoying shit about gollum
??
Also Helms Deep>Pelennor Fields
>>68772808
>Fellowship: Extended > theatrical
>that shitty "Fellowship of the Ring" title being shown on a brown Bag End instead of on a based green with Frodo reading by the tree
>that completely out of place Gandalf using black speech in the council
>that cringy as fuck Sam speech to Gandalf in Lothlorien
No
>>68773642
It doesnt use CGI where it matters
1 is 100% kino
2 is the contrarian choice, 50% kino 50% flick
3 is a masterpiece, 20% kino and 80% flick
>>68772278
>muh faggy arbitrary power ranking
No one will ever give a fuck. Stop making these threads.
>>68773710
why is pic related a flaw?
>>68773906
It just doesn't look right.
>>68773906
I mean, it's better than the shieldboarding
1>>>>>>>>>>2>>3
>>68774030
wtf was my opinion just censored?? Is this the future of /film/?
>>68774056
I can see it you opinion anon :3
1>2>3
>>68774056
I guess maybe you should stop going around being wrong.
>>68772278
FOTR:
>dat opening
>comfy Shire
>Bree, Strider and Weathertop
>Rivendell
>Gandalf vs Saruman
>Mines of Moria
>death of Boromir
TT:
>Rohan and the Rohirrim
>Ents
>Gollum
>King Theoden
ROTK:
>Witch King
>Shelob
>Mount Doom
The movies just got less interesting as they went on
First tolkien thread I see.
What's the best cut of The Hobbit that's out right now? There has to be quite a few lying around.
>>68772714
Yes but many of them took a bunch of extras that were actually there and digitally reproduced them. You're looking at real actors and real costumes twice and not cgi. The computer copied the image but didn't necessarily generate it.
>yfw plebs wanted a rushed ending to Return of the King where Frodo destroys the ring, has some ale with mates and says cya later buddy instead of the beautiful tear-jerking finale to an epic cinematic masterpiece.
Thank fuck this didn't happen and it got the ending it deserved, in the theatrical version no less!
>>68772808
Yup
>>68774196
That's not really the case for battle scenes where you see a charge of people or horses through a crowd. Weta created some kind of simulation program (i forget the name) that ran the battle in a 3d environment with individual soldiers that made up the crowd.
>>68774251
It was just traumatic experience for many who couldn't hold their pees.
>>68772808
the only way to watch 3 is extended, otherwise you dont get the mouth of sauron
>>68772278
>liking any Hackson flick
kys
>>68772278
1>2=3
>>68774328
>MAY THA LARD AF THA BLACK LANDS CAM FARTH
>>68774146
>leaving out gandalf's fall with duran's bane in the 2nd one
>>68774603
>>68772728
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6XicBBN1l4
>the music
>the dialogue
>3:42
>Cinematic Masterpiece
>*light shines*
>mfw
Most underrated part of TT. Based Rohan
I thought they were all good, but if I am just going to watch one of them I normally put on ROTK
By far the most entertaining out of the three.
>>68774681
>"Ride out and meet them"
>*eeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaayeeeeeaahuuuu*
That Score
1 is GOATAT fantasy film
>>68774681
Theoden is my fav character in the whole story mang.
>>68772714
So you're telling me during the Helms Deep battle and the shots Urks marching there WEREN'T actually tens of thousands of paid extras just walking for a few seconds?
Please tell me more, it seems like you know a lot.
>>68772278
The two towers is the only good one.
>>68774621
That's a good scene but technically it belongs to the first one
>>68775040
Actually, technically, in both the movie and book, it belongs to the second one.
>>68772278
1>2>3
This is the Viggo Mortensen opinion
>>68772714
Even when CGI is used, great storytelling and acting carries the drama. Christopher Lee nailed this particular scene. Rather than just dump a ton of CGI, there was substance behind it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Afw8e-abVa8
1>>3>>>>>2
fellowship is pretty much flawless. 3 and 2 have their fair share of small issues. 2 in particular has some very poor pacing in parts (but still amazing. 1 is 10/10, 3 is 9/10, 2 is 8/10)
its really a matter of personal preference but 1 has everything 2 and 3 offers but with added comfycore. i could see it being regarded as a classic looked back on and studied extensively 100 years from now.
>>68774146
ROTK:
>Gollum's flashback
>Minas Tirith
>lighting of the beacons
>the sword of Elendil
>Pippin's song
>Grond
>ride of the rohirrim
>Gandalf telling Pippin about the undying lands
>"I bid you stand, men of the west!"
>"I can't carry it for you, but I can carry you"
>side by side with a friend
>"For Frodo"
>"don't you let go"
>"you bow to no one"
>grey havens
I like to see this trilogy as a whole, an epic journey and honnestly I love them equally
>>68773400
Why the fuck did they make him CG? I was kind of drunk the first time I saw it and thought it was in my head.
I honestly think Hobbit 1 > Lotr2
Arise! Arise, Riders of Theoden! Spears shall be shaken, shields shall be splintered! A sword day... a red day... ere the sun rises!
>>68775183
i think for some reason Billy Connolly was unable to be filmed for those scenes
>>68772278
Return of the king appeals to the same kind of "muh epic battles" autist that thinks a 40k movie wouldn't be complete shit.
>>68772820
>for no reason
They were at War and Frodo and Sam were foreigners caught sneaking around in their land.
Do you watch the latest modern superhero movies by chance?
Thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxfaQrS1KIs
>>68775183
PJ got behind schedule and there were lots of production problems. Compared to Gothmog, Azog was a joke. My guess for keeping Azog a CGI character was easy of use and continuity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQkygZdZ_Vk
>>68773400
>actually hire 30k extras and suit them up in armor?
yeah, that'd be cool
1>>>>>3>>>>>>>>>>>>2
>>68775233
I respect your choice anon but Two Towers was just perfect in
>score
>dialogue
>action
>actors
>story
Hobbit just didn't have anything as something like this>>68774681
Except for that eagle ride scene, now that was excellent.
>>68774681
True Kino
>>68775233
Just by comparing CGI scenes, the opening of TT blows the Hobbit out of the water.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHFm94-zdYs
>>68775311
Based Rohan
>tfw the Lord of the Rings came out when I was 14 and it made me want to be a knight when I grew up.
Kind of fucking sucks that you can't be a knight in the modern world.
>>68775498
RotK is automatically worse than TTT thanks to that Army of the Dead bullshit.
>>68775376
But Fellowship has a far better score than TT
>yfw there is never going to be lotr level fantasy kino
All fantasy is going to be capeshit tier garbage.
>>68775435
If PJ planned the hobbit out longer like they did with LoTR, I reckon it would've been a masterpiece. I remember somewhere confirming the hobbit was originally all of Guillermo Del Torros orignal design, and opted last minute. Forcing PJ to join up on pre-production last minute
>>68775578
OH NO DOUBT
was just saying that TT is better than Hobbit
>>68775613
See >>68775319 The Hobbit was a mess to produce. It's surprising that it was halfway decent.
>>68775648
Oh my bad, thought you were comparing it to Fellowship, not the Hobbit
Best scene of the series.
>>68773906
he grabs air
>>68775752
I don't get that scene. Aragorn risked his life time after time fighting, all the hobbits did were walk to a volcano.
>>68775860
The Hobbits risked their life time after time walking to a volcano
>>68775860
maybe you should watch the movies again.
>>68772278
This is evidence of reddit normie shit taste plebs takeover.
>>68775319
This.
Peter Jackson never wanted to direct The Hobbit. He just wanted to be a producer. When Guillermo del Toro left the project Peter was forced into the director's seat.
On top of that, New Line Cinema decided halfway through production that they wanted three movies instead of just two like originally planned.
Although personally I would have wished for Peter Jackson to have been the director from the start. Guillermo del Toro would have made The Hobbit feel too much like Harry Potter. The Laketown segments had the most of Toro's influence when he was still directing and they already feel too much like Harry Potter.
>>68775913
I hope you mean the ranking order, because LOTR has always been /tv/-core
>>68775860
>Pippin and Mary took down saurman and united the Ents
>Sam and Frodo fucking walked to a volcano placed in the most dangerous lands of middleearth, Not even any of the good guys could get in
>Sam and Frodo took down Sauron
>>68775860
Aragorn is an ubermensch, the hobbits are just some weak manlets that defied all odds and accomplished more than anyone could have ever expected from then.
>>68775966
>I hope you mean the ranking order
Yes
To this day i cant stand the editing of 3.
Especially the theatrical version where they cut out Saruman death and how pippin got his Palentir or whatever it was called, the destruction of gandalfs staff and many other small things.
Still a great movie but if i had to put them in order i would say 1=2>3
>>68775277
>40k movie
It doesn't have to be about epic battles.
>>68772278
You're objectively wrong and a fucking idiot too. I'd get preferring TT. But Return? Eat shit.
Both Hobbit and Lotr I found 1st and 3rd better than 2nd. Only difference is that Lotr 2 was better than all Hobbits and Hobbit 2 was utter garbage.
>>68774961
wait.. what!
LOTR FELLOW 10/10
LOTR TWO 8/10
LOTR RETURN 7/10
>>68776386
How can you consider Hobbit 3 better than Hobbit 2?
Hobbit 2 had Bilbo/Smaug which is alongside the unexpected party and riddles in the dark the only scenes worth shit in the trilogy
You have to include the hobbit movies orelse there are only 6 combinations, which in turn means this thread is autism wannabe star wars rankings.
>>68776679
None of the Hobbit films are gonna top any of the LotR films in the ranking, so it's still the same shit, since the point of the thread is to rank LorR to begin with
godlike rank
1=2=3
there is no 3 without lotr
>>68776679
Not gonna do that m80
>>68772278
The plot of King is too much like Towers.
>the good guys are being besieged by bad guy who lives in a tower
>Gandalf councils a grieving leader
>cavalry charge and supernatural shit saves the day
>we won, but all we did was make Sauron even angrier. I hope Frodo's still alive, otherwise we're fucked
While the battle was bigger, they didn't do as good a job of setting up Gondor, as they did with Rohan.
>>68777081
>they didn't do as good a job of setting up Gondor, as they did with Rohan.
Now that is a valid criticism. I would have loved to see, fx., all the soldiers from the different fiefdoms arriving at Minas Tirith. And the knights of Dol Amroth would have been fucking awesome, same with the Grey Company. But I guess they were left out to avoid making ROTK even longer
1 - Comfy Time
2 - Best Time
3 - Alright
>>68772759
Theatrical versions for first time viewings
EE for all the rest
>rating a trilogy as separate films
When we're you diagnosed with autism and how hard did your parents take it?
All three of the trilogy are outstanding and inseperable.
If I had to choose, however, the Fellowship is probably the best one.
>>68781605
Fellowship had the best color filter. Return of the King has a yellow filter that doesn't allow it to be as colorful as Fellowship.
The way all thee films start/finish is briddy ebin,
1 - Dank prophecy, comfy as fuck shire
Amon Hen, Boromir feels, lets hunt some orc
2 - GANDALF VS A FUCKING BALROG
Last march of the ents, look to the east
3 - gollum's story (mbe not as dank as the others)
The entire last fucking 30 minutes:
-the eagles
-frodo orgy @ rivendell
-comfy bilbo reunion
-comfy pints back in the shire
-comfy grey havens (feels)
-comfy sam's been going to town on rosies pussy
All set to the most perfect soundtrack. That video's so fucking sad about The Hobbit. Such a shame.
>>68783286
only forgot about ARAGORNS FUCKING CORONATION hnnng arwen
>>68783286
>-frodo orgy @ rivendell
The Frodo orgy is in Minas Tirith, the bloom makes it look like it's Rivendell but it would just be extra needless travel to very far away.
>>68783286
>comfy bilbo reunion
I thought it was unsettling, Bilbo still wanting to see the ring, after everything his nephew went through to destroy it.
Everything after the coronation could have made for a short fourth movie, including the Scourging. The theatrical version of RotK doesn't address Saruman's fate, does it?
>>68776520
Hobbit 2 also had that shit inside the mountain with the Dwarves "fighting" Smaug and the shittiest love story in the history of cinema.
>>68777657
You could've had little things instead. If Jackson hadn't started making dumb little changes after Fellowship, Eomer would've been more established. If Eomer were more established, there'd be cause to have him go ape at Pelennor and get saved by Imrahil and the knights of Dol Amroth.
If Jackson hadn't included that dumb paths of the dead adventure and the cgi ghosts, we could have Aragorn's company just surrounded by a ghostly aura after a one minute scene. Then we'd have the Dunedain and rallied Gondorians.
I like the LOTR films pretty equally desu. Fellowship is the most comfy though
All are far better than The Hobbit films. I dozed off a couple of times during Battle of the Five Armies.
>>68784023
Oh, also we could have based motherfucking Angbor who ain't afraid of no ghosts. No reason to turn Pelennor into a CGI deus ex machina when it should've been a 3way cooperative effort
>>68776463
Objectively correct.
>>68776520
>riddles in the dark
Serkis played Gollum way too whimsical and over the top, it's only after Frodo reminds him of his name that the Smeagol persona reemerges. Doen't make sense that it's already so prominently there when he's supposed to be in full on Gollum mode for centuries.
>>68781605
Such a fucking beautiful film
>>68784023
>If Eomer were more established, there'd be cause to have him go ape at Pelennor and get saved by Imrahil and the knights of Dol Amroth.
That's more of an issue with the knights not being established at all. Eomer could still go apeshit after seeing "dead" Eowyn.
>that dumb paths of the dead adventure and the cgi ghosts
The ghost army simply couldn't be used just to spoop some pirates into killing themselves. It was either going all the way with them or replacing them with exiled Gondorians like Hackson wanted to do in the first place.
1>3>2
That's it. Close the thread.
>>68772278
>Fellowship
Patrician
>Two Towers
Contrarian
>Return of the King
Plebeian
>>68784457
>Eomer could still go apeshit
Except cutting him from Helm's made him such a minor character that he was pretty much Haldir/Gamling tier. I remember watching it with normies who were like "lol wait, who's that again?" when he was crying.
>>68773799
>that cringy as fuck Sam speech to Gandalf in Lothlorien
Did this actually happen? I'm pretty sure Gandalf died by that point
>>68772759
I agree. The cringey filler dialogue that was easily conveyed fine through emotion in the theatrical deserved to be cut.
>>68784730
Sam was honoring Gandalf and came up with a poem to do it
Despite the entire first movie being a brilliant showcase of Jackson turning a novel into a screenplay, this is one of those things that just can't translate to film gracefully, watching it play out looks like a teenager doing a first reading of shakespear
>>68784425
Well, Tolkien does mention in The Hobbit book that Gollum spoke to himself a lot but there wasn't really any split personality at that point.
>>68784928
Doesn't Sam acknowledge how shitty his poem is?
>>68784928
I thought it kind of represented Sam pretty well at that time: still an awkward ,naive little gardener.
>>68775752
PJ's best original idea in the series at least
>>68775284
Read the book friendo. Hackson completely changed Faramir in the movie to extend the runtime
>>68786092
It was more to give Frodo and Sam's TTT storyline a climax since Shelob got moved to the third movie to fit the timeline.
>ROTK has the most grand epic ending ever neatly wrapping everything up in a perfect bow and satisfying fans of the franchise
>modern films cut to credits abruptly or after a long static shot of someones face breathing heavily.
>>68774180
JRR Tolkein's The Hobbit is pretty okay. What you learn from watching it is that the first movie could have been pretty good if they trimmed some of the bullshit, the second movie had some okay scenes hiding in it, but the third movie is irredeemable filth. Don't go into any Hobbit cut expecting a good movie all the way through.
>>68786523
I still can't believe that even the Jews recognized how great the LotR trilogy was.
>>68784425
who is the one with the flowers on the head? Is it the elf captain from Helm's Deep?
>>68774681
So was the rohan army just hiding behind the ridge until Eomer calls them forward or what?
>>68775860
>Be tall godly killing machine, an actual living legend, absurdly combat proficient and have ridiculous knowledge of how to survive in the wilderness and lead nations
>4 midget literal who's who have never left their backyard tag along on your deadly quest
>Even though they drag their feet and complain at the end of the day they keep up, and help save the world in ways you and your mighty warrior friends never could have
>Gamble everything in the hope that your friends will persevere and be incorruptible, even when you are convinced you could not
>After going through literal hell, some parts of which they will never talk about again, they STILL pull through for you
>Even though saving the world hinged entirely on them, not you, they still give you the lion's share of the credit
It's pretty touching how humble they are desu
I love them all, but I think 1>3>2.
3 had some pretty low points, but some of the most memorable moments in the whole trilogy too. Yeah Gimli and Legolas having that drinking game felt out of place, but then you have shit like Faramir's charge, and a ton of the scenes between him and Denethor. I also actually liked the ending, it feels like you need some time to properly say goodbye to something on as grand a scale as the trilogy.
2 I felt had both the weakest overall cinematography and soundtrack. Yes the Rohan theme is fucking 10/10, but it had far more realized renditions in RoTK. It also kind of dragged in a couple of places, especially during the journey to Helm's Deep. It's still fantastic, and Theoden has some of the best dialogue in the whole trilogy, but it's just a touch below RoTK for me.
This is going off of the extended versions.
>>68786814
Gandalf got there first because he picked the most hax horse
>>68772278
3>2>1
>>68787233
Aragorn didn't have that kind of attitude, though.
>>68787375
>Having the worst opinion possible
>>68772278
1 > 2 >>>>>>>>> 3
This is not open for debate.
>>68787412
>muh frodo falling down for a thousand times
>muh helms deep
3 is GOAT and makes 1 and 2 better
>>68787445
Easy there bud, I agree with the order but trying to pretend that 3 was that much worse than 2 just comes off as edgy.
what were the rangers of the north fighting against? why didn't they just build a wall
>>68786806
nope that's the on next to him, I think this might be Thranduil actually, or the lord of Lothlorien
>>68787623
They were fighting the army of Angmar, which would have been orcs lead by the Witch King, and an army of men from Rhudaur, iirc.
>>68772759
Not editing your own version of the film and deciding which scenes are an improvement
>>68788157
>not filming your own adaptation of LotR that adapts to your vision of the book
