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Should there be a Marvel + Dbz shared cinematic universe?
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Should there be a Marvel + Dbz shared cinematic universe?
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No.
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>>68770155
No. That'd be retarded.

Plus Goku's current power scaling is ridiculous with the new series. They turned him into a literal god. And gave him the power to destroy the entire universe. The nigger almost does it on accident. He could destroy a galaxy without breaking a sweat. He would out shine all of Marvels hero's and it'd be dumb.

Maybe if they put an early version of him from Z in
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Goku base form is way stronger than end of DBZ goku because he spent between 10-15 years training. Let's say 15 to have a fix number.

So that roughly puts Goku in Super = 75% of Goku's GT power.

Now lets go for the numbers we have.

Base form Goku in GT was about 5 times stronger than SS3 DBZ Goku.

If DBS Goku = 75% of Goku's GT power, that means he is about 4 times stronger than himself at SSJ3 on DBZ saga.

Beerus is stated using about .006 of his power to defeat SS3 Goku.

Ergo, he'd need about .07 of his power to one shot GT Goku at the same form.

Now SS4 is around ten times stronger than SS3.

So Beerus will need to apply .07% of his power to one shot SS4 like he did to ss3.

SSG, to become as strong as 60% of Beerus power suggests a energy boost 1000x superior to Ss4. So Sayan God = 1000x ss4 power.

The Fusions would not fare much better against him either:

Gogeta ss4: 14% of Beerus power


Vegeto base form: .2
Super Sayan Vegeto: 1
Vegeto Super Sayan 2: 2
Vegeto Super Sayan 3: 8
Vegeto Super Sayan God: 8000

So only SSG Vegito would win against Beerus, but then again he'd do it quite easily being 800 times stronger than him.

Now Gogeta:

Gogeta base form: .0035
Gogeta Super Sayan: .17
Gogeta Super Sayan 2: .34
Gogeta Super Sayan 3: 1.3
Gogeta Super Sayan God: 1.360

So not only Beerus is much more powerful than shitty either SV or Gogeta 3 but he may very well be hiding his power level all the time. He is about 14 times more powerful SV 3.

But if Goku SSG manages to reach 60% of his power and Vegeta is supposedly even stronger, then he gets squashed against Gogeta SSG, let alone Vegito.


Now if Omega Shenron could be a Universe Buster. this means that he'd need to be 10× stronger to become a consistent universe buster. We all know he stomps SS4 and Gogeta SS4 in turn curbtomps and trash him but where is his power level?

Part I
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>>68770594
Lasers destroy Goku though
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>>68770594
Well, if Gogeta SS4 is 14% of Beerus power and SS4 is .07 then he's somewhere in between that. Let's say he's about twice as strong as ss4. That places him at 0.14% of Beerus power.

To be a universe buster he needs at least 1.4 of Beerus power. So Gogeta SS4 is roughly 10 times universe buster and Beerus is 71.42 times universe buster.

To one shot a universe you have to be 100 times stronger than Universe Buster. Therefore Gogeta SSG can one shot 9.7 universes at once, while Vegito SSG can one shot 54.1 universes at once.

Now we don't how much power Beerus was suppresing in his fight. He can very well be twice as strong as he was but even so a Gogeta SSG will take him down easily, without bteaking a single sweat.

Part II
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They should make a universe cinematic shared universe. Characters watching us watch them as they live their lives which we watch while living our lives that they watch.
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>>68770155
only on your devant art.
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>>68770155
in the Cell saga Cell comments that Goku's Kamehahmeha would destroy the entire solar system if he didn't hold back, considering that by the end of the buu saga goku is many many times more powerful than this, and then if you treat Super as canon with the whole super saiyan god super saiyan thing, him vegeta combined could probably take out most of the Marvel Universe with a few well placed blasts if they weren't worried about casualties
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Goku is the most powerful person in all of fiction at this point. The series needs to go back to Dragon Ball comfy adventure time.
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>>68770155
In Dragon Ball when Master Roshi destroys the Moon with one single attack, he has a power level of only 139

Goku's final power level in the series is around 1 billion. Meaning Goku has a destructive stopping power of about 7 million Moons
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>>68771227

>Super is canon

1,000,000,000 is the tip of the iceberg now.
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>>68770155
no one in Marvel has the speed level of those 2, maybe Thor can give Vegeta some trouble
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>>68771336

>who is the silver surfer

Also people assume you need a huge powerlevel to beat Goku and Vegeta but both of them have very weak minds, any telepath worth their salt would have them swallow their tongue or just make them fall asleep then draw dicks all over them
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>>68771396
that all depends on the scenario of the set up and fight. As early as the very first arc of dbz, minor side characters moved faster than the human eye could capture, just in regular fights moving naturally. When you consider that Goku is many millions of times faster than this by the end of the series, you would have to catch him completely off guard for the fight to not be over before it started
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>>68771336
>Dr strange just teleports them to another relm.
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>>68772218
This is why this argument is stupid. Dbz pulled a deus ex machina and now goku is lower leveled to stupid degrees. It's just pulled for money. If pre god no they would get their asses kicked because they can get to ss1 or 2 instantly but 3 or 4 have to take time and being marvel rushed would suck
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