Was watching Patton Oswalt's latest special and it was pretty funny but not even halfway through he went on a Louis CK style pro tranny sjw rant and I quit out of boredom, was the rest of the special worth watching or was it just more cuckoldry
How is being pro-trans* "cuckoldry," you fat faggot?
>>68728849
It wasn't "pro tranny SJW" it was about how we shouldn't always trust people who use SJW approved nomenclature.
>>68728849
>He can't enjoy something if the writer has different politics/opinions to him.
worst pleb
>>68728938
>hurrr people pretending to be another gender makes it reality
the whole thing led to how having these progressives leaders is just a show for doing evil shit
>>68728849
>things stop being ok when they diverge even slightly from my point of view
Lock yourself in a room with great acoustics and mumble to yourself until you die. You'll be much happier that way.
>>68728938
>>68729287
Fuck, even if you think they're pretending, why stop them? Let people be what they want to be. There was a tard kid in my school who wanted to be a turtle, and only this big fat retard gave him shit for it. Everyone else just avoided him.
His wife died like two days ago.
>>68729212
>>68729458
It wasn't his opinions that bothered me it was him being boring and unfunny during a stand up special, learn to read
>>68729469
It's not helping them though. If it was an alcoholic drinking himself to death a good person would try to help him.
>>68729624
I thought I was developing allergies but it turns out that I just have a tumor in my head.
Things can be worse than just having to share a bathroom with a stranger
stop being a faggot
>>68729624
Yes, but there's a difference between drinking yourself to death and wanting to be called female/switching genders.
>>68729469
I wish we still lived in a society where we could cave in the heads of faggots like you. "Hurr let them be" cunts like you are the worst society has to offer.
>>68729855
Alright, get some boxing gloves, let's settle this like men.
>>68729624
The number of people that are actually going to transition or present themselves as another gender is not huge. I don't really see major drawbacks to accepting these people as they are.
Maybe playing into it isn't helping, I don't know. But telling them they are wrong or should kill themselves isn't helpful and it's not meant to be helpful. /pol/ can claim to be against trans for the benefit of trans people and viewing it as mental illness, but when you combine that with calls to suicide and denouncing it as degenerate it's pretty clear they don't give a fuck about helping the mentally ill either
>>68728849
hotdog?!
>>68729598
Patton Oswald being boring and unfunny does not have much to do with his politicals. A good comedian will make you laugh at shit you don't agree with.
How many trannies are there?
It seems like such a small percentage of people to give so much importance to. What about muh amish rights
>>68730119
Amish don't get stomped to death as much.
>>68730143
Amish hate crime is actually a big thing in Pennsylvania. You just don't hear about it on blogs because they don't have any. Check your tech privilege.
>>68730119
"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere"
While I don't believe fully in any one side, you have to agree there's a shit ton of prejudice on trannies. I mean, look at /pol/. Nobody really deserves death threats, unless they're murderers. It's not about politics at that point, it's about being a decent human being.
>>68730216
>Amish hate crime a big thing.
>Compared to trans hate crime.
Obviously not, and those Amish fuck each other over when no-one else is doing it for them.I'm luddite-racist.
>>68729287
That still has absolutely nothing to do with cuckoldry senpai.
>>68729540
>its true
>the day after his new special drops
>In which he talks about his family and young daughter
fugg :^(
>>68730854
>fugg :^(
Yeah, but if he gets back into stand up he's going to be fucking awesome now.
>>68729469
For the same reason you don't encourage someone who believes he is Napoleon
You're feeding into their delusions and it's actually the opposite of helping them
It's a mental illness and should be treated as such
>>68729469
>I'm anorexic
Seek help
>I'm schizophrenic
Seek help
>I'm a different gender
FUCKING GREAT I LOVE IT THAT'S TOTES NORMAL FAMILIA WE LOVE YOUR TOTALLY NORMAL CHOICE.
>>68731111
I'd agree with you if treatments actually made them normal and they were happy with it, but we tried that with gays and, trust me, it didn't work. At the end of the day you just have to let people be who they are.
Also nice quads.
>>68729715
>Don't complain about being raped. It's not as bad as death
That's what you sound like.
>>68731266
Yes, but two of those three things actually harm someone. Show me how being trans/genderfluid/whatever fucking term they think of next is harming people, and then I'll change how I think.
Patton having a kid really kind of dulled him. I know this is /tv/ and comedy is hated because lots of alternative comedians are liberal, but Patton Oswalt used to be a really funny fucking guy. Not so much anymore, though.
>>68731279
But supporting their delusions doesn't make them happy either and removes focus from finding adequate treatment since you'd be considered transphobic if you tried to find one
Also
http://www.wsj.com/articles/paul-mchugh-transgender-surgery-isnt-the-solution-1402615120
>>68731266
Anorexia isn't your business either, and schizophrenia only is if the person is a danger to society. These problems are the responsibility of their friends and family, you don't fucking get into a stranger's life and tell them to quit being anorexic, it's none of your business. If your family member or friend is a tranny, then sure, by all means, deal with it, but you don't get into stranger's lives.
>>68731279
But being gay is entirely different
Being gay is about who you find sexually and romantically attractive. Gender dysphoria is believing you're something that you're not. It's delusional
>>68731409
Right but that's because you don't see anorectics crying for preferential treatment like with bathrooms
If they did it would certainly be everyones business
>>68731566
They don't have to. Their issue isn't with bathrooms. They do get fucked with, though.
>>68729469
It degrades the whole of society
>>68731520
Okay, so back onto the first issue. Our treatments simply don't work, and I'd guess most trannies would hate people trying to stop them what they want to be. If somebody wants to fuck themselves over, then that's their own decision.
>>68731395
>Patton having a kid really kind of dulled him.
It happens to every stand up with kids except Joan Rivers. Kids are easy source material, but they are also fucking lazy source material, which makes for lazy comedy. Guys with kids find it hard to retain the anger/energy to be a top tier stand up as well.
>>68728849
>he went on a Louis CK style pro tranny sjw rant and I quit out of boredom,
first, how is "i don't give a fuck what they do" sjwism? in this one and the last special he's pretty much all but said sjws are fucking insanse, but he seems too cowardly to come out and say it
second, he's been getting less funny since getting married and having a kid
maybe his wife dying will provide some funny material for the funnyman
>>68731363
mentally ill people masquerading as something they are not. It's deception. Often times they withhold their true sexual identity until the last second and it ends up with a lot of them getting beaten/killed by the poor sap they suckered. Not to mention that they are usually gay, which means they are vectors for HIV/AIDS and most of them don't disclose this to their sexual partner. Look up "bugchasing" if you want a bigger picture.
The thought that being gay doesn't harm anyone is simply wrong. HIV/AIDS has become rampant in the homosexual community. It used to be called GRID (Gay Related Immune Deficiency), but it was changed to AIDS because it wasn't technically correct, but the large majority of HIV is concentrated in gay communities. Because of all of the homosexual sex we are now seeing strains of HIV/AIDS that are MEDICALLY RESISTANT to HIV medications.
The "it doesn't hurt you, bigot" meme needs to dielike Freddy Mercury and Liberace
>Watch someone who is known SJW
>Get mad when they said something SJW
I have no words how dumb people on this site is.
>>68732067
Being who you want to be and HIV/AIDS is a different issue. People who spread aids knowingly are degenerates, gay or straight. How we handle HIV/AIDS is far beyond me, but that's why we let the professionals handle it.
>>68728849
now you know why his wife killed herself
>>68732067
Stopped reading at 'mentally ill'. Pretty sure you aren't a liscenced practitioner who specialises in LGBT, you aren't qualified to diagnose shit.
And HIV transfers most effectively through anal sex. This fucked gays up way back when, but now that straight people have caught up to them in promiscuity and sodomy, you are actually slightly more likely to get it from a heterosexual encounter.
But your argument is emotional and you seem homophobic, which means you've had a bad experience or are secretly a faggot.
>>68732067
>it's deception, they're trying to trick us because they get off like that
man I forgot how retarded 4chan is when it comes to this stuff. Fuck off to your policed bathrooms faggot
>>68728849
>watches a sjw comic
>hears sjw topics and jokes
>HE SUCKS NOW WHY DID I WATCH THIS
You're a fucking idiot anon
>>68729469
>Fuck, even if you think they're pretending, why stop them?
I hope you say that when a woman with a hard on follows your daughter into the restroom.
>>68732450
>implying this actually happens
Are you even trying anon
>>68732287
>implying it takes a licensed doctor to see that someone who has delusions is fucking crazy
when are the lizard people who scale their bodies up going to get their own cause? they believe they're lizards, SO THEY ARE, RIGHT?
>>68732532
They're called furries.
>>68732450
when has this happened, ever, at any point you fucking sperglord
>>68732529
>>implying this actually happens
I do it in all the trendy coffee shops in town now.I also piss on the seats
>>68732067
As long as you're personally not planning on having unprotected gay sex and increasing the risk of contracting HIV/AIDS then "it doesn't hurt you, bigot"
>>68732532
Then say 'I BELIEVE they're mentally ill' or find me a reputable source, instead of just tranny bashing with the AIDS card like someone from the 60s. It's just as easy to say that homophobia is an irrational pathology, but I don't do that shit because I'm not going to pretend to be a doctor. Having said that, homophobia definitely correlates with poverty and poor education.
>>68732891
Stop projecting--I have no problem with gays, but trans and gay are too separate things. There's no breakdown of objective reality necessary for someone to be attracted to the same sex.
Meanwhile, however, we're supposed to pretend the emperor has clothes with trannies.
>>68729540
Fuck.
>>68732155
He makes fun of them all the time on twitter though. Even defends jew jokes for the sake of comedy.
Nice try.
>>68729469
Disappointingly, no one replied with the obvious: THEY'RE MAKING LAWS BASED ON THEIR FEELINGS.
I don't give a shit if someone wants to crossdress, but when I start getting fined are imprisoned for offending these fruitcakes the gloves come off.
>>68733502
>but when I start getting fined are imprisoned for offending
Hello england
Patton Oswalt is one of those guys that I liked when I was younger but looking back I realized he was never funny, like Bill Hicks. Just pretentious nerd humor.
>>68729287
Reality is democratic. hence 'god' is real.
>>68731330
rape is one of the few violations of freedom that can be compared to murder. violations of free will are top tier moral offenses. rape can be greater too or equal to murder.
transgender hurts literally 0 people other then the people with defective chromosomes that make them transgendered. oh ya, it's a genetic ting.
>>68729855
Be we don't. Lynching went out of style a long while ago, you primative fuck.
>>68729469
Society shouldn't be forced to accommodate the delusions of an insignificant minority.
>>68733666
*tips*
>>68733783
>rape can be greater too or equal to murder
complete horseshit
>transgender hurts literally 0 people
promoting lunacy degrades all of society
>>68733783
>rape can be greater too or equal to murder.
oh ffs
>>68733866
Reality being democratic is thing... every religion on earth is proof of this, it's the best proof, but also in religion is also proof of this. we each have our own beliefs but what we know as the shared reality is the terms we all agree on. 1984 talks about it for the whole 3rd act, that 2+2=5 if we agree to it. which may seem dumb but it's still a fact like if I said Kino you think .... you know.
As for murder and rape, any violation of free will is the highest moral crimes. To violate someone's active ability to determine their free will is a defiling their ability to be a human. To hold someone hostage or prisoner LIMITS their free will, but it's not countering their agency for free will entirely.
>>68734169
>1984 talks about it for the whole 3rd act, that 2+2=5 if we agree to it.
Are you calling Common Core an Orwellian practice?
>>68734009
Why is murder wrong? Because of humans innate ability to have free will. Crimes severity is usually ranked on how much you limit someone's else free will.
Me jay walking is hardly a crime since it doesn't affect anyone elses free will, unless they're in a car. Theft is a great crime unless it under a few hundred dollars, it's petty at that time, since that amount of money is trivial to most people, unless that person is really poor then the severity of that crime ESCALATES! The thief is now affect someone's ability for free will.
Rape is on the level of physical assault, which is one of the most severe crimes. Rape and Murder are more severe forms of assault. This is why terrorism is such as severe issue, it's mass physical assault, or threat of it.
Even threat of assault to someone's body limits their freedom. Since, as stated above, reality is democratic. Death threats are based off of perception of reality, not real reality. This is why judges, men smarter then, have taken voodoo curses as legitimate death threats. Threat is what the parties agree of as real, regardless of shared reality we all have, because reality, is just a form of perception.
This is why eye witness testimonies are taken with a grain of salt. What we see isn't always real.
>>68734524
then by your logic how can limiting someone's free will temporarily (rape) ever be worse than limiting it permanently (murder)?
>>68734626
rape can be permanent, since exchange of bodily fluids, and impregnation, but also because of mental scarring, which is more a symptom of societies 'shaming' about sex, and the preservation of virginity for marriage. These may seem like archaic ideas for you, but virginity use to be a BIG issue for girls. Controlling ones sexuality is on a level above assault. this is why rape is greater then or equal to murder. Since the sexuality violation can't be done in murder, is an addition to physical violence. Taking someones virginity is on part with murder, since you can't murder someone alive you can't unrape someones virginity. again, virginity use to be MUCHO IMPORTANTE! it's only changed in the past few years.
Threat of rape or murder are treated as the same severity. Really though, one you cross into violating people's freedom the severity ends. Then it goes to how many people you affect. But if you met a person who said he killed someone, you can maybe understand, "a crime of passion" as it usually it or "self defence gone wrong" or maybe they're just "not all there".
you'll never meet a rapist and say "he must of had good reason" unless he was wrongfully accused, but wrongfully accused can be said about literally EVERY SINGLE CRIME EVER MADE OR PREFORMED OR THOUGHT OF BY EVERY HUMAN EVER.
so besides being wrongfully accused, which let's agree could be a high chance of with rape, just for sake of it, there is no other way we can justify this.
This is why the lowest of the low in all of humanity is seen as pedophiles, because they violate the free will of people that have YET TO DEVELOP FREE WILL. This is violating free will on a WHOLE NEW LEVEL.
>>68735023
Oh and just to be clear, sexuality violation is seen as worse then murder, because virginity use to be seen as a physical thing. That's like killing someone, AND chopping off their face.
>>68734524
>Why is murder wrong? Because of humans innate ability to have free will.
I know that whole post was try-hard bait, but murder is wrong because it ceases the existence of someone else through an act of violence.
Your whole nonsense about it being based on denying another human's freewill is not why murder is wrong. It plays a part in it, but it's not the totality.
It's not my will to pay an income tax, but the government making me do so is not tantamount to murder. Nor is rape.
>>68734626
It's really about assault. If you were to splash liquids on people, even is assault. This is why 'ofice bubbles' of youtube fame arrested someone for blowing bubbles on them, because exchanging liquids is physical assault. so obviously sex in ANY FORM comes with a high chance of infection.
Like if someone injects you with a syringe, how severe would you rate that? It's as bad as rape/murder. It's not murder. It's not rape. It's something like both of them, potentially, who knows. but the fact that and act happened that has a HIGH CHANCE of limiting free will happen it's not treated as anything but the highest severity.
cops will treat a man with syringe as high as a man with a full auto weapon. Just like a rapist. Just like a terrorist. It comes down to severity. This is why drug dealers are treated with EVEN MORE SEVERITY THEN RAPISTS. because drugs rob people of free will..
then we can go into a rant about cops milking drug community for money to defend them, and yada yada yada
>>68735379
how are the uppers treating you?
>>68735374
It's your choice, like I said, limiting someone's free will is not the same as permanently disabling it. Rape isn't temporary, since the exchange of bodily fluids. The act of sex is just worse on it. It's like giving you AIDS, AND rubbing my nut sack all over your face.
Also since the person dies from murder, they don't have to live with the image of someone rubbing their nut sack all over their face.
The problem is proving rape. not the severity of it, but the fact it does have a level of perception of WHAT IS RAPE.
>>68735496
man, I am just so fucking bored.
>>68731942
He actually addresses this, he says that having a kid is like a "little ball of endorphin" that calms his depression, so I bet that it also effects his comedy
>>68735581
I wonder how adead wifewill affect it?
>>68732067
>it ends up with a lot of them getting beaten/killed by the poor sap they suckered
Uh, yeah, poor guy huh.
>>68729287
You are just jealous because you wouldn't make a pretty girl
>>68735838
does anyone know how his wife died?
my guess is prescription pill overdose. the way patton talks about those ambiens... yeah.
>>68728849
>overweight
>mega manlet
>outspoken Democrat voter
>recently widowed
Wasn't he friends with A Wyatt Mann? What the fuck happened?
>>68729469
Yeah, I agree with you. If someone wakes up every day feeling absolutely horrible about being their gender, and knows deep down that they would be happy as the other, then why not let them try it out? They aren't hurting you, they aren't hurting themselves. If anything, it will improve their lives in the long run, because they can finally feel comfortable in their own skin. Transitioning is a really big commitment, that can be reversed easily up to a point. People don't go into it without a lot of though, and consideration. They know how hated they will be, and they still go through with it because it means that much to them.
If nobody is hurting anybody, then just let people do what they want. Who gives a fuck? Being Trans isn't any more fucked up than spending all day on 4chan
>>68729624
Alcoholics usually end up dying by their own hand, you don't see people who don't like alcohol killing drunks because they have a problem.
Something is only considered 'bad' when there are negative side effects. So you'd have to list negative side effects to being trans or being pro-trans in order to really compare it to alcoholism or to call it a problem that people need to help them with.
