Do you agree with this picture, /tv/?
>Jared Leto
>Not "The Absolute Madman."
>>68714112
How can u know Leto isn't the Joker when nobody has seen him yet?
>>68714122
ABSOLUTE
Joker's one of the least interesting villains. I don't get the fandom surrounding him.
Kind of, but Hamill has played the Joker many more times than the rest; Nicholson, Ledger and Leto have only done one movie (and therefore one story) apiece, and Romero wasn't exactly allowed to play a psychopathic murderer in the 60s show. Hamill's done a variety of performances over the years so you got to see varied sides of his Joker.
>>68714215
Out of Batman's rogues who would you say is more interestingI say Ra's Al Ghul
>>68714112
Arkham joker desu.
>>68714251
All of them. Even Penguin's origin story is more interesting than the Joker's.
>>68714144
>>68714112 (OP)
KINDA, but Leto is still yet to be known what he is. with the emotional connection to Harley, he might be more of a Sociopath then Psychopath. subtle difference...
he might be the more romantic joker....
but that's only because Mark Hamils joker is REALLY the true pychopath.
>>68714303
I unironically agree with this guy
>>68714251
Not that guy, but probably Scarecrow if anyone bothered to do him right. Nolan chickened out halfway through and just said "FEAR GAS GO". Cillian Murphy was fine; they just didn't really use the character extensively enough.
Scarecrow should be used to explore his victim's fears; Arkham Asylum's sequences were some of the best in gaming I've ever played.
>>68714215
He's certainly not on par with someone like Thanos or Ultron, but he's not bad. He only works in the context of Batman stories though. I don't know how they think a clown with no powers is going to come off as interesting in a movie about real superheroes.
>>68714294
What is Penguin's origin story?
>>68714112
No, it's fucking stupid. The Joker is over 70 years old and the character has changed during those years. Just because you prefer one over the other doesn't mean the others aren't true to the character. Fuck off.
>>68714294
I'd argue the Joker's origin story isn't what makes him interesting. Some villains have an origin story and then stop being interesting there. Joker's ongoing feud with Batman for the sake of itself is interesting.
>>68714409
GET THIS HOTHEAD OUT OF HERE
>>68714303
>the only thing that can come out of a butt is shit
>the only performance that can come out of an actor is shit
There is no such thing as a good movie: the picture
>>68714456
But the only performance that can come out of Leto is a shit performance.
>>68714444
>that get
>>68714112
I wouldn't call Ledger's Joker an "anarchist." He wasn't some kind of sociopolitical theorist. He was more about chaos than he was about "anarchy."
>>68714144
MOMS
>>68714395
He was abandoned by his parents and raised by penguins in a sewer.
>>68714395
Cobblepot family was a founder of Gotham, same as the Waynes, but they were jerks while the Waynes were good people. Waynes are more successful than Cobblepots at everything. Oswald blames Waynes for his own life being fucked despite it being their own damn fault. Becomes crime boss because "muh heritage is ruined"
>>68714112
why do stupid people love compiling images of stuff and writing "the ______" on each one?
>>68714294
Joker doesn't have an "origin story."
>>68714112
>Jared Leto
>The Poser
fixed
>>68714251
The Royal Flush Gang in Batman Beyond was cool as fuck desu.
>>68714569
>Jared Leto
>The Absolute Mad Man
>>68714251
Scarecrow
Ra's
Killer Moth
Riddler
Mr. Freeze is fine in small doses
>>68714215
He's Batman's arch nemesis.
>>68714596
I heard he prank-called various businesses in his community and uploaded the ensuing conversations on Youtube.
The madman!
>>68714112
>not putting Kevin Michael richardson's joker up there
>>68714112
I haven't seen Jared's version yet (only trailers and such) but I've legit enjoyed every single adaption of the Joker. But honestly, I'm a bit worried he might end up as the combo breaker. He's a bit too much of a faggot.
>>68714803
Troy Baker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35XK-0AB2jc
John DiMaggio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qOdggdLPLM
>>68714803
Damn straight. Fuck that version.
Ra's Al Ghul storyline would make a good epic.
Bruces love Talia
Ra's don't approved
Absent Parents
Rebellious Son
It's like a comic book greek tragedy in the making
>>68714251
Harley
>>68714803
yeah I'm glad, monkey Joker is a terrible version and it's just KMR doing his Jamaican voice
>>68714986
>>68716047
Monkey Joker is a good version.
All I know is
All of that's chit chat's gonna getcha hurt, marvelcuck.
>>68714112
>psychopath
Uh oh, don't tell him mom.
>>68714112
the only thing worse than capeshit is cartoon capeshit
>>68714803
best joker
>>68718288
Seriously underestimating the Batman cartoons. Pure kino.
>>68714112
>Not putting superior version of Joker
>>68714112
Hamill's magnum opus will be The Killing Joke. I wish they would return to the classic Bruce Timm art style for this special though.
>>68714986
>>68716047
he was actually pretty good
>>68714323
Stop living in the past. Psychopathy and Sociopathy are archaic terms.
>>68714969
DImaggio laugh was great
>>68718549
>The Killing Joke.
The Killing Joke was garbage. Not even Moore gave a fuck about it and it shows.
Leto would be The Wigger
>>68714251BANE?
>>68714323
Leto's doesn't even seem Socio/Psycho-pathic. Just seems like some criminal dude, like a cheap drug lord.
>>68718932
but he doesnt have dreds or smoke weed
>>68714112
Ledger isn't actually an anarchist. He pretends to be one, but he also meticulously plans every detail and when things don't go as he wants in the end he just ignores it and decides to blow the boats anyway.
He talks about chaos a lot, but he also talks about his scars a lot, and the story is different every time.
>>68714456
Fart can come out.
Blood can come out.
He could've put some toy in there or water.
You can't tell.
>>68714323
>subtle difference...
Sorry reddit, but there isn't a difference. Sociopath/psychopath are just outdated ways to refer to someone with antisocial personality disorder.
>>68718979
im glad you could analyse his performance from a few seconds collected from a couple of trailers
>>68718999
Neither do most wiggers.
Mcklemore? Eminem? Vanilla Ice? No dreads.
>>68719031
I'm glad you could aswell.
>>68719092
He never claimed to.
>>68719107
>He
you needed a (You), didn't you
>>68719092
thanks for refuting the point oh no wait you fucking didnt
>>68719013
So? Everything would be coated with a fine layer of shit anyway.
IT'S ALL SHIT!!!!!
>>68714564
Hes got several, but i think the red hood one from the killing joke is about as close as you get to a canon.
>>68719216
woah nice photoshop look i fucking pwned you leave it at that
>>68719216
Stop posting screencaps, you shitlord. You're cancer.
>>68719285
Here's you final (You) from me. If you would like to talk to the original person you were conversing with, you can find him here:
>>68719224
>>68719412
Okay.
>>68714112
Live action versus animation+voice acting are apples and oranges.
As noted before, the character is over 75 years old. The Joker has changed and shifted with the times. It's almost apples and oranges to compare the live action actors too.
Mark Hamill is the villain Gotham deserves.
Also Leto is lookin boss as fuck.
>>68719532
>applesorangesapplesorangesapplesorangesapplesorangesAPPLESORANGESAPPLESORANGESAPPLESORANGES
Get a grape, mango.
>>68714215
No, he's not. The Joker is actually an absolute madman in the comics and people like him because whenever he shows up something major will happen. He is absolutely a game changer every time. That's the difference.
>killed Jason Todd (which created the Red Hood)
>killed Gordon's wife
>crippled Barbara (which created Oracle)
>killed and infinite number of Gotham officers
>cut his own face off
>cut off Alfred's hand
etc etc etc
Movie Joker doesn't have any real stakes, that's the problem. The Joker from the comics is not to be fucked with and that's why he's menacing.
>>68714251
Ra's al'Ghul is a forced villain and a forced threat. Almost every time he is depicted the heroes are written to be less competent and more vulnerable than they normally are.
>>68714526
GONNA
>>68719640
They couldnt picture Joker as in comics without making it R rated movie. That wouldnt profitable as a lot of comes from underages.
>>68719775
FREE KEE
>>68719800
>>68719640
This is why I don't like DC. Someone could have easily killed the Joker in Arkham just by poisoning his food or getting him alone and then beating him to death with a group of people.
Surely he's ruined enough lives in Gotham that some disgruntled workers would take matters into their own hands?
>>68719800
I agree with your point, but your post is atrocious.
>>68719841
Different audience. Deadpool has always been aimed at teenagers, while Batman has always been aimed at small children.
>>68719612
Fuck your shit testicles, berry masterrace reporting.
>>68719239
What if he smuggled some blood diamonds out of West Africa in his anus and just wanted to surprise his friend as soon as possible?
>>68714215
>says the casual
>>68719863
>implying Marvel is any better
Capeshit is capeshit. Marvel vs DC might as well be green shit vs brown shit.
>>68719889
Shut up, Rachel!
>>68714251
>Ra's Al Ghul
He's basically corrupted Al Gore. Environmental terrorist. As for villain - Black Mask would be kind of strong but cliche villain.
I guess Hush makes the best villain for upcoming Batman movie.
>>68719907
why did his chin grow in the comic?
>>68719863
It probably wouldn't be that easy since he actually managed to fight Bruce a bit a few times, and he's either free and planning some mayhem or locked in a safe cell.
Imagine this fucker in the movies actually fucking people up though. Joker is straight up slash horror movie-tier.
>>68720047
They need to give him superpowers.
>>68714251
Best batman villain is the ventriloquist
>>68714112
So, are we all agree that Chastain Joker will be the best one?
>>68719922
Damn he looks cool
>>68720047
Are you suffering from blindness?
>>68719612
Who you calling a mango?
>>68719922
Hugo strange as the main, recurring villain. The perfect intellectual adversary for Batman (The Riddler is cool too, but he's been done before and he's stuck with his clue giving fetish. With Hugo, you could have a Detective Batman storyline... for once).
Ventriloquist because dummies are shit-your-pants scary and he would make a great recurring mob boss.
Solomon Grundy for the supernatural shit (to make that Bat universe distinct from the others).
Man-Bat. Clayface.
>>68719863
You can say that about any supervillain.
>>68719640
Movie Joker kills Batmans Waifu and maims the two face dude creating him and then he dies.
So batman kinda should have saved his bird
>>68720325
A final battle where Strange is wearing his batsuit would be pretty neat
>>68719873
> Batman
> Always aimed at small children
Then why all of those PG-13 Batman flicks? Why is there going to be an R-rated cut of BvS?
>>68714112
hamill didn't create that character ya idiot
>>68714354
I like the scarecrow a lot, he's essentially a lanky weirdo with a serious inferiority complex who uses his psychiatry skills as well as his fear toxin to mentally torture bigger and better men so that he can finally feel like an intimidating man instead of an impotent nerd. He should be like if Elliot Rodger didn't shoot the place up and kill himself but instead became an acclaimed psychiatrist who develops a fear gas so he can torture people like a true psychopath.
I thought Cillian Murphy was a good scarecrow, if he got more screen time.
>>68718461
shut up manchild
>>68714803
Kevin Michael Richardson joker
- The palm tree wigger.
>>68718549
The Mask of the Phantasm is Hamill's best work. Revenge of the Joker being a good second.
>>68714251
Harvey 'Two-Face' Dent
Rock star district attorney who has one bad day. Maybe always had issues, maybe he's just had enough. If written right he could be a great anti-hero or villain protagonist, not sure why he does crime instead. TDK got this part right at least.
>>68714112
>muh TAS
No.
>>68714354
Arkham Asylum's were great, especially when they made you think that your game had broken or glitched out, but the 'boss battles' were kind of dull compared to what could have been done.
I realise it's a video game that we're talking about and it needs to follow certain rules and games conventions, but something a little more alien would have been more effective in accurately capturing Scarecrow's villainy.
>>68714215
Dude's fly as hell.
No.
I like Hamill as the Joker but
actual acting >>>>>>> screaming into a microphone like an xbox kiddie
>>68714112
Accurate except for Heath Ledgers. I'd describe him as "The edgy faggot with psychic powers"
>>68720771
Cillian Murphy did a pretty good job with what he was given. And the establishing scene with him gassing Falcone was really heart-stopping the first time I watched the movie.
Scarecrow needs to be a kind of lingering presence. I feel like his best roles are when he stars as a side character, and he can play on his strengths without coming on too strong.
>>68722937
his only real power was being able to instantly teleport any amount of explosives at any location
>>68722663
source pls
>>68722982
He can see into the future. To be fair, TDK is not the only film whose villain can predict the actions of other characters to unrealistic degrees, but it is one of the most ridiculous examples.
The idea of a Joker who hates money and wants to cause chaos instead of doing it for the lulz is stupid the begin with, and when you add ESP on top of that Ledger is the worst Joker ever
>>68723429
Why? He's a fun character, it's fun to see him doing stuff. It's a Batman movie, FFS, it just replaces "raised by pengiuns" kind of silliness with that.
>>68722983
Looks like the Joker Fish story.
>>68714112
I think I wanna fuck the clown
>>68723507
He's not fun. The movie itself is grey and colorless, and Ledger's Joker is a depressed loser who probably has razor marks on his arm.
>>68723632
It was fun to me.
>who probably has razor marks on his arm
I dunno how you missed it, but he had razor marks on his fucking face.
>>68722663
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gf7Tbt9ewY8
>>68714251
Scarecrow. Such a shame he had the spotlight pulled away from him in Arkham Knight. The game would have been much better if he was the main villain without the Knight, nor Joker hallucinations. (Or at least use them sparingly.)
>>68723699
Ah, forgot about that. You're probably more familiar with the film that I am, I only saw it once and hated it.
Cesar Romero had a fetish that involved young boys throwing orange wedges at his ass.
Why did they kill Batman Beyond so quick? Animation was shit, but the spec was written for Gods better than me.
>>68723754
His mouth is cut and all fucked up. He tells a story of these scars a couple of occasion, and the story is always tragic, personal and also completely different. It's a parody of cliche villain origins, I guess. Thought it was pretty funny.
>>68721618
Two-Face is the best
>old-school gangster
>legit mentally fucked up and struggling with his multiple personality disorder and duality fixation
>conflicted relationship with Batman
>aside from being great at manipulating people and planning heists, his only power is being a big guy seething with rage
>when he flies off the handle he's dangerous enough to be a handful even for Batman
>>68723834
It's actually a reference to the Joker having a multiple choice origin in the comics.
>>68714444
>>68723931
Wasn't there some comic where it was said that Joker constantly reinvents himself? You mean that one, right?
>>68722663
The thing I like the most about Joker is his flamboyant, slightly old-fashioned way of speaking. Good Joker dialogue is so nice to read.
MOMS
>>68714112
>Romero
cheesy garbage from a long forgotten era
>Nicholson
Jack Nicholson playing himself in a clown suit
>Ledger
Frank Miller tier of edgyness, nothing like the Joker from the comic books
>Leto
MOMMA'S GONNA FREAK! USED CONDOMS!
Well shit, looks like we're never getting a good movie Joker.
>>68723984
>>68714444
>>68724057
>>68714251
I wish he had better dues. He looks really silly with this costume.
>>68724057
>>68724104
Neat, thanks.
>>68724057
>>68724104
>>68723984
The comic you're thinking of is Arkham Asylum.
>>68719863
That's why capeshit is capeshit. Nothing ever ends.
>>68724534
Well, Nolanverse did.
>>68724054
Art is fluid, bitch.
>>68719640
are you claiming that everytime the joker was on screen in The Dark Knight something dramatic didn't happen?
>>68724436
im thinking of your fuckin mom you little bitch while she sucks my dick
>>68724602
What's on your mum's face is fluid, faggot.
>>68719863
>set up a Joker-victim fundraiser
>collect 1$ from every relative, spouse or friend of someone Joker has killed
>reach one million in no time
>hire Deathstroke
>Batman assmad when Joker gets a sniper round in the head just after he's cuffed him again
>>68719030
Oh look, an SJW Tumblr post. Let me guess, got you psychology degree online right?
>>68724781
Not nearly as dramatic as the stuff I mentioned, no. What effect did Bruce's broad dying even have? One movie later he was banging Catwoman.
>>68725506
>One movie later he was banging Catwoman.
He didn't actually bang Catwoman, Talia sure.
>>68719863
It's somewhat overly meta but the Joker actually can't seem to preoperly die. He's been stabbed, blown up, thrown in acid, fallen to his death etc so many times it's bullshit. He just can't die because villains must always exist for the hero to fight and because the Joker is just such a fun villain you can't kill him off.
This is also the unspoken rule that heroes must never kill. I mean, if they killed all their villain, you'd have to make up new ones and that'll be too hard and boring.
>>68720384
Didn't you notice? The Joker lied to Batman, telling him the opposite location of where they were. Batman tried to save his wife and ended up finding Harvey. Knowing his mistake, he had no choice but to quickly try to save Harvey and hope that the police would save his waifu, but knew that it wouldn't happen.
>>68725026
He was shot between eyes in Batman RIP and still came back.
>>68714112
makes cents
>>68714354
Scarecrow is even more boring than the joker,he has one single gimmick that is repeated over and over with little to no variation.No interesting interaction with Batman or other villains. No interesting backstory either.He's cool,but that's about it.There was enough of him in Batman Begins.
>>68726672
He was shot in his forehead.
>>68719486
>lel
>>68720771
I do agree that Hammill certainly captured that essence of the Joker character, whatever that essence is.
>>68722943
In the Arkham games, all of which had those Scarecrow hallucinations, the only truly amazing ones were in Arkham Asylum, because they were unexpected and used sparingly. My mind was fucking blown away in the first encounter with him.
>>68726871
Being cool is all you need. He was GOAT in the Batman games until he got boring.
>>68714112
You can't spell Mark Hamill without "arkham".
>>68721645
I like TAS as much as the next guy but it has some aggravatingly close-minded fans who cannot accept animated Batman in any other form.
>>68728775
The Batman was such a good TV show of Batman as well. Not many people seem to love it or enjoy it as much
>it went from Batman working alone to eventually getting Batgirl and Robin to eventually involving the rest of the Justice League within its run
>>68718549
My friend at Warner saw an early screening and said it was pretty bad.
Sorry anon.
>>68728949
I watched the first two episodes and couldn't into it. Does it get better?
>>68729348
Yes. The early episodes are the weakest.
>>68714356
>who is Lex Luthor
>>68714356
That's what makes them better villains, the fact that they can still cause serious trouble and even defeat super heroes with only their brains. Villains like Thanos are just given all the powers in the world so they can become a meance to the heroes.
