>won't even hit 1 million at this point
How did it go so wrong? Seriously, how does a movie like this fail? Do critics actually impact a movie's box office that much.
>>68686228
Um, it's already well over 1 million dude
>>68686228
>won't even hit 1 million at this point
I meant 1 billion. How did it fail?
Sup Evans
New thread already?
>>68686353
pls no bully
>>68686228
Not really a failure.
>3rd highest grossing DC film
>Outgrossed every MCU film except Avengers 1/2 and IM3
>Raw B.O. numbers don't include revenue from promotional partners (for example Man of Steel made back its entire production budget before the movie was even released)
>B.O. also doesn't include merchandise, DVD/Blu/VOD sales (the video sales alone, Deadline estimates, will push the film's gross over $1billion)
>Variety estimated it only needed $800mil. to break even (again - only taking into account raw B.O. numbers)
So no. The movie isn't a failure despite what some may have you believe.
>TBAB
argumen 1
will hit 1 billion with extended bluray, tv rights, buybacks, etc.
argumen 2
Nolan trilogy was heavily hyped, that the first appearance of new Batman can reach close to 2nd overhyped Nolan film is impressive, plus the 2nd movie in DCEU has already outgrossed all but 3 of Marvel
>>68686894
THIS IS THE WORST FUCKING ARGUMENT EVER
IT WAS FUCKING BATMAN VS FUCKING SUPERMAN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTvBQE6cvVg&feature=youtu.be
>>68686894
This. They're releasing the extended cut in theaters too.
>>68686739
>1.JPG OF 4CHAN VS EVANSPOSTER OF REDDIT
There's a 3 letter shitpost to big for little mines
>>68686985
haven't confirmed yet
>>68686984
Is this the biggest reaming of an asshole there ever was?
>TBAB
>>68686984
>Superman market cap - $677 million
>Wonder Woman market cap - $0
>(Nolan) Batman market cap - $1 billion
That this movie both advanced Superman and neared Nolan is great. This idea of it needing to reach Avengers level to be a success is ignorance of blind fanboy journalists hyping for clicks
>>68687187
>This idea of it needing to reach Avengers level to be a success is ignorance of blind fanboy journalists hyping for clicks
You mean execs didn't actually believe it would reach Avengers numbers?
They expected Man of Steel to beat Harry Potter, or the very least break 1 billion
When that one underperformed, they forced Batman into "MoS 2" to make more bank, and they definitely believed it would break 1 billion.
At the end of the day, they pulled a profit, Suicide Squid is unaffected, Wonder Woman is getting hella buzz, and Justice LEague good will will be restored
That's why WB added 2 more DC flicks to the slate. Everything's find
>>68686735
It isn't a box office failure, just an underperformer.
What it did fail to do was set the DCEU's status as a franchise.
>>68687508
>JL will be good!
You guys are seriously going to go through this a third time?
it still made more than marvels 2nd movie
>>68687906
Marvel's second movie was Hulk, not Captain America vs Iron Man.
>>68687718
If it did that, why did WB add 2 more films to the lineup?
>>68687974
more like not iron-man vs spider-man
IT WAS FUCKING BATMAN AND SUPERMAN! FINALLY TOGETHER IN A FUCKING MOVIE!!
OH NOW THAT NIGGABOT 3000 AND TALKING FISH GUY IS IN THE MOVIE JUSTICE LEAGUE WILL BE GREAT!!
At least Flash does have some fan base thanks to the TV show so that will help.
It's not like we actually fucking wanted Batman V Superman to fucking suck as much as it did. Zack is just fucking retarded.
>>68686735
It has barely broken even. It is a failure worse than Spiderman 2 electric nigger-boo.
>>68688038
Because, as I said, it wasn't a box office failure, it brought money, but not as much as they wanted.
The thing about WB is that during the past years they have had actual box office bombs like Jupiter Ascending, so now that they have a franchise that brings money, even if not as much as they want, they are going to milk it.
>>68686228
Disney paying critics and the ones they didn't were already biased against it
Disney also enacting a low key smear campaign for the last 8 months or so
>>68689102
>paying critics
OH PLEASE REDPILL US OH SAGE HOW HAVE WE BEEN SO BLIND
>>68689102
>WB went full retard and bought RT instead of buying the critics
>>68686228
>Do critics actually impact a movie's box office that much.
More than ever I'd guess.
Brb starting a movie review website so I can shill for a bit of $$$
If anything it's a testament to the star power of Batman and Superman that it did so well despite being a god awful piece of shit film.
Imagine how much it would have made if it was actually half decent?
>>68689102
>Disney paying critics and the ones they didn't were already biased against it
>Implying critics determine whether a movie makes money
O I am laffin.
>>68687508
>That's why WB added 2 more DC flicks to the slate.
There were always 2 undefined slots for DC movies. It was supposed to be the Batman movie (which it will be) and possibly an actual Man of Steel sequel. But now it's probably going to be Suicide Squad 2.
Which also was expected if BvS underperformed. Make a Batman movie because people liked Batfleck, and push Suicide Squad more.
>How did it go so wrong?
They were inpatient when trying to find a director for MoS, rather than waiting for one of the directors they wanted to finish with their projects, they went with Snyder.
Snyder went on to make Man of Steel, a shoddy film with a mixed response at best. Somewhere along the line Warner Bros decided that this was actually the beginning of the DCEU, and went on to give Snyder the benefit of the doubt and let him direct BvS.
BvS is universally panned by both critics and average movie-goers, only some die-hard fans praising it. WB was desperate to get that avengers-tier revenue which resulted in Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Aquaman and Cyborg all being in the movie despite being only the second installment of DCEU. DC has blew it's load already, in terms of heroes. BvS is definitely at least the most expensive comic book movie ever created, it's very possible that it's among the most expensive movies of all time, period.
Despite Snyder shitting out two bad movies while running the DCEU's reputation through the dirt, they've let him direct Justice League Part 1 AND Part 2 (possibly due to nepotism, I doubt it though). If SS and WW are bad movies as well, public image may force WB to restart the movie universe if Justice League under-performs.
>>68691708
If that wbanon was telling the truth, they will actually use the alternate timeline thing to "retcon" things, but not actually reboot.
I mean, it's how reboots happen in comics (something happens that erases and restarts the universe), but not how movies reboot.
That would mean keeping the same actors and things that worked, for instance.
>>68686228
transformers always makes a lot of money
BvS is just boring
takes itself too seriously ,waste a lot of time to explain why they hate each other and then become friends because their mother has the same fucking name.
is too retarded for a "mature" audience.
is too slow for a brainless action packed movie.
has a lot of subplot ,cameos and useless characters for someone who just wants watch a movie about batman and superman.
BvS is a big mess
>>68692295
This. It's too stupid to be mature, and takes itself too seriously and with self-importance to be enjoyably stupid.
>>68688038
>if it failed why did wb add movies?
Damage control to actually make mpney off of batfleck.
>>68688038
The same reason Fox shouted that they were going to make a Fant4stic sequel when that movie failed as well.
>>68686985
>dlc movie
>thinking it'll fix the issues
Delusional
It's not very good. It's not the worst thing in the world, it's got ideas but it fucks them up and fails at execution. Sometimes a bad movie just doesn't succeed no matter how much marketing they attempt. That being said it's fucking amazing a movie that makes this much money is considered a disappointment. Movies are too fucking expensive these days man.
>>68692295
DC is a big, fat mistake.
>>68687309
Source
>>68689585
Sounds like a comedy skit. WB execs are sitting around a boardroom trying to work out how to make sure all their movies are received well. Jimmy the intern shows up delivering them coffee, they try to get his opinion on it, he mentions paying off Rotten Tomatoes to get them to cheat the system. Execs proceed to buy out the platform, hilarity ensues
>>68693000
http://variety.com/2013/film/news/warner-bros-sets-bar-high-for-latest-and-priciest-incarnation-of-superman-1200493334/
>Warner Bros. motion pictures group president Jeff Robinov went so far as to predict it will be the studio’s highest performer ever. That would mean the 3D movie, which cost about $225 million to produce and another $150 million to market and release around the globe, would have to top the $1.3 billion cume for “Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 2” and the $1 billion-plus each earned by four other Warner releases, “The Dark Knight,” “The Dark Knight Rises,” “The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey” and “The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King.”
As for them forcing Batman into what would be MoS 2, it's clear going by Snyder's own comments about what MoS 2 would have been. Lex and Metallo (because he didn't want another alien villain, which basically fell apart with Doomsday), Lex motivated by the destruction caused by Superman in MoS...
