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So how BTFO'd did Muslims get last night? Any Bonglandistanians watch?
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>make documentary to prove to the islamophobes they are idiots
>involve a statistics company to back up your claim
>end up getting BTFO and air it anyway
I liked it.
2/3 ""british"" muslims would not report information to a future terrorist attack
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>>68253293
>Islamophobe
more meaningless liberal buzzwords. Orwell was right once again.
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>>68253184
>Channel4 conducts survey with real Muslims
>presents data gathered from the survey
>Muslims then complain the survey was racist and Islamophobic
The interviewees weren't under any pressure, they didn't have to answer any questions but somehow the factual results are inherently racist. How can pure data care about sensibilities?
The whole religion has its head in the sand.
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>>68253293
>""british"" muslims

You mean asians?
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Mudslimes on collective suicide watch
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>>68253437
>interviewees weren't under any pressure, they didn't have to answer any questions but somehow the factual results are inherently racist. How can pure data care about sensibilities?

In the spirit of 1984's doublespeak, let's call this phenomenon "WrongTruth".
Notice that they're not arguing that the information being presented is factually incorrect, they're arguing that it is "racist". That is to say, the facts are taboo, impolite to speak openly.
The Truth is Wrong.

What are some other examples of Wrongtruths?
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>>68253755
this
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>>68253437
>>68253184
can someone post some details, I am curious whats the whole thing about?
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>>68254772
>because of the whole paris/brussels attacks in the last 12 months, channel 4 decided to make a documentary to show what muslims in our country are really like
>they hire Trevor Phillips, a man well known for being a liberal arse head and self proclaimed inventor of the word 'islamophobia'
>they get a company to collect data from 2000 muslims in random areas of the country where the community is above 20%(muslim)
>company determines there is a chasm between muslim and the general population of the UK
>52% of muslims believe being gay should be illegal
>39% of muslims believe the woman should obey the husbands command
>21% of muslims believe sharia law should be in place
>there are 85 sharia courts in the UK right now, but are used just for marriage issues (apparently)
>66% of muslims declared they would not notify the police of upcoming terrorist attacks
>4% are sympathetic towards suicide bombers
>one muslim woman was told by school children she was a "slag" because she didn't wear a head scarf
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>>68254979
>66% of muslims declared they would not notify the police of upcoming terrorist attacks
btfo
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>>68254979
>where the community is above 20%
Every minority is fine in "moderation" but when you let anyone form ghettos bad shit is going to happen
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>>68254979
>39% of muslims believe the woman should obey the husbands command
Time to convert to Islam! lmfao
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>>68255172
Yeah I agree on that. People are trying to justify the stats by saying 'Well its for muslim communities over 20% so its not all muslims"....The point of the programme was to show the damaging effect of their large communities, fuck me.
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>>68255200
LAD
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>>68254979
These are facts gained from the survey of 2000 people, right?
I don't understand how Muslims think that they're being targeted through this as they're the ones that willingly gave the information.
Is it just a case of them not wanting to admit to how regressive their culture is? i.e.

>"gays should be burned at the stake"
>"so you're homophobic?"
>"those are your words, you don't understand our culture, you're being Islamaphobic."
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Can i watch it online as a non-britbong yet?
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>>68255237

Because they dont' want to face the truth about their own religion.

Same sort of thing in the States when you bring up crime stats of certain minority groups.
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>>68255309
>crime stats of certain minority groups
found the whiteboi
mad cuz we cucked you bitch?
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>>68255200
>Time to convert to Islam!

I've often thought the main problem people like the OP have with Islam is the extent to which it reminds them of how they've painted themselves into a corner.
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>>68255335
Elaborate....
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>>68254979
>there is a chasm between muslim and the general population of the UK

The muck you find in threads like these shouldn't be confused with "the general population of the UK". It'd be like assuming all Americans were whinging neckbeards preoccupied with black dicks.
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4chan BTFO!
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>>68255208
>It's not all muslims
When will this meme end? Let's say you have a small bowl filled with 100 M&M's, and 20 of them are poisoned. Would you still eat them?

It's very much the same with Islam. The fact that Islamic countries lag behind the western world in morals and human rights should speak FOR the idea that the majority of muslims are backward savages.
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>>68255388
Do liberals really have zero understanding of how statistics work? That is more frightening than anything. I'm sure my 8 year old brother can point out the flawed logic in that argument.
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>Guardian claims sample wasn't representative enough
>uses 5 people to prove this
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>>68254324
>That is to say, the facts are taboo, impolite to speak openly.
>The Truth is Wrong.
Watch Trevor Phillips' other Channel 4 Documentary. Things We Won't Say About Race, That Are True. It's basically a whole documentary on that shit.

The whole reason he's doing these documentaries, is because he used to be one of the guys, that had to try and spin negative news or statistics into positive news, and eventually got fed up with it.
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>>68255371

So long as the word "Islam" isn't involved they'd be perfectly happy to accept the kind of deference Muslim women are obliged to show even their most useless menfolk (especially in the really backward communities such as you'll find in places like Pakistan or what they used to call "Waziristan"). Plus for once in their lives they'd even find their neckbeards were an actual asset instead of a liability.
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>>68255387
Im literally quoting the documentary you moron.
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>>68255200
the lad bible literally got bought out by a muslim woman lol

it's just a content aggregator now, it was always shit but it's buzzfeed tier these days
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>>68255388
>tory members who use escorts
>I have decided to completely manipulate the truth to fit this table
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>>68255244
Also nonbong here, this is it I think.

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/things-we-wont-say-about-race-that-are-true/on-demand

I've not been able to get it to work, but maybe the hola extenstion helps.

>>68254979
These numbers don't even sound that bad and are up to interpretation.

>52% of muslims believe being gay should be illegal
Might simply mean homosexual practices, like a lot of christians would say.
>39% of muslims believe the woman should obey the husbands command
That's just fucked up.
>21% of muslims believe sharia law should be in place
Suprisingly low actually.
>there are 85 sharia courts in the UK right now, but are used just for marriage issues (apparently)
In what aspect? small disputes? moral issues? cheating? dowry? Divorce?
Remember that for religious people marriage is mainly a sacred connection between two people - it's only logical that problems are solved via a religious court.
>66% of muslims declared they would not notify the police of upcoming terrorist attacks
>4% are sympathetic towards suicide bombers
These numbers seem to contradict each other.
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>>68255388
>"Hurr you gotta interview every muslim personally over a cup of tea or else it's just the minority"

Fucking leftists don't know how statistics work.
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>>68255466

Still muck, anon.
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>>68255518
>http://www.channel4.com/programmes/things-we-wont-say-about-race-that-are-true/on-demand
No, that was his first documentary. Also worth a watch though.
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>>68255518
>Suprisingly low actually
1 out of every 5 people is "surprisingly low". #shitleftistssay
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>>68255519
>Fucking leftists don't know how statistics work.

(meanwhile Donald Trump's mouth-breathing supporters try to persuade themselves statistics proving he'd get killed in an election against Hillary Clinton is proof of a conspiracy against him)
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>>68255518
>These numbers seem to contradict each other.

The fundamentalist muslim wants to behead you. The moderate muslim wants to watch you being beheaded.
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>>68255465
Ha, I see what you're saying. I'm no fan of Islam (or religion in general really) but yeah you're right, don't mention the word muslim or Islam and a lot of the people here would agree with the same views they claim to be against when talking about Islam. It's really an us-vs-them mentality at play.
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>>68255330
fuck off nigger I have a bigger dick than you
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>>68255518
>Might simply mean homosexual practices, like a lot of christians would say.
they mean being gay, full stop.
>That's just fucked up.
women in the documentary agree but move the goalposts in the answer claiming "obey to their husband if he mentions allah"
>Suprisingly low actually.
yeah I agree
>In what aspect? small disputes? moral issues? cheating? dowry? Divorce? Remember that for religious people marriage is mainly a sacred connection between two people - it's only logical that problems are solved via a religious court.
this is just what they say. they dont go into anymore detail
>These numbers seem to contradict each other.
thats what the documentary says, but Id guess the 2/3rds of people who would not notify the police may include muslims who do not want to be involved with any of it whatsoever, and those that are scared to report.
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>>68255612
I am pretty "regressive" with most views, but Islam itself is a horrible cancerous ideology that I wouldn't want to associate with. They have some things right, but as a whole it's an emergent cancer.
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>>68253315
I wonder when liberals will coin the phrase factophobe or nationalophobe.
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>>68255549
>#shitleftistssay
back to twitter normie. I simply expected higher.

>>68255637
>thats what the documentary says, but Id guess the 2/3rds of people who would not notify the police may include muslims who do not want to be involved with any of it whatsoever, and those that are scared to report.
Yeah that's true.

Do you know if the report will be posted online?
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this jap faggot will fuck up godzilla for good
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>>68255694
Islamophobe, xenophobe, racist, etc. Haven't you realized it yet, anon? They all already fall under the umbrella of "factophobe".
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>>68253184

Did you hear what this Social Engineering Lunatic's solution was?

Caps on the percentage of various ethnicities in schools and communities to encourage 'integration'.

That literally means Ofsted penalising schools for being 'too white' and further dismantling homogeneous white communities across the country.

Sorry to bring /pol/ to /tv/ but it's relevant to OP's topic.
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>>68255694

"Transphobic" is a word now, which literally shames you for acknowledging the fact that men aren't women.

That's pretty damn close.
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Emoji Movie? For fucks sakes
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>we only care about facts, not like those weird conservatives and their Christianity
>be presented with facts
>whine that facts are too racist

Can we admit the self-proclaimed intellectual left has become a cess-pool of indoctrination and cultism? Remember when one of our best scientists got fired when he argued about black people being in average dumber based on science?
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>>68255769
how the fuck are we dumber whiteboi? look at neil degrasse tyson bitch
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>tfw no matter what happens, leftists will be on the wrong side of history as basic primitive human nature ends up going against them
movies for this feel?
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>>68254979

>4% are sympathetic towards suicide bombers

Seriouslu doubt it's that low.
Every other poll of Muslims makes it 1/3 to 1/2.
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>>68255816
Are you really going to say that you support suicide bombers when asked the question? That's literally being asked to be arrested. Not even mudslimes are that stupid.
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>>68255808
>black frog
HOL UP
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HOL UP SO YOU BE SAYING NIGGA

HOL UP SO YOU BE SAYING NIGGA

/LAUGHS/

HOL UP BRUH

BRUH WTF THIS SHIT AINT TV AND FILM

BRUHHH!!!!!!


WHAT ARE THOOOOOOSEEEE


SO U BE SAYIN NIGGA THIS IS NOT TELEVISION AND FILM NIGGA!
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>>68255816
1 in 20 Muslims is still pretty damn high. Imagine walking on the streets in London, every minute or so you're bound to pass someone who is sympathetic towards suicide bombers. Pretty frightening. Don't tend to think of these statistics as percentages as much so as fractions.
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>>68255830

The sensitive questions like that were polled anonymously to encourage honest views.
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>>68255860
>London

KEK NEWCASTLE REPRESENT

NEWCASTLE IS FUCKING WHITE UTOPIA MATE
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>>68255244

I'd like to know this as well.

It's not on youtube and there's no torrent yet. I watched his documentary about race yesterday, it was interesting and he seems like a decent fellow.
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>>68255859
>>68255919
poor Ahmed got triggered
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>>68255919
>SO U BE SAYIN NIGGA THIS IS NOT TELEVISION AND FILM NIGGA!
>thread is literally about a documentary that was on last night
Yeah, nah. You're a cunt.
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And what happens when papers like this are made available? Do media report on it? Do our politicians shake their heads in disbelief? Does the common man feel frustrated at what his country has become? None of this happens. Because this is the wrong type of facts presented and wrong fact is incorrect fact and should not be reported.

But let's do another segment on why women should have free tampons!
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>>68255919
>>68255859
back to your capeshit threads, this is a thread about a television programme on UK telefuckingvision last night.
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>>68255945
The only way to get people to listen is to go full Unabomber or Breivik, and even then people don't listen.

We have to wait this shit out, we have to wait for leftism to implode in on itself. It's the natural order after all.
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http://www.channel4.com/info/press/news/c4-survey-and-documentary-reveals-what-british-muslims-really-think

TBHQHF it's a bit more nuanced than what >>68254979 posted

>If you thought that someone who is close to you was getting involved with people who support terrorism in Syria, would you report it to the police
>34% would inform the police if they thought somebody they knew was getting involved with people who support terrorism in Syria
This is a yes/no question about a case that's acutally more complicated. Personally I would have a honest conversation with the lad before ruining his life by reporting him.

>Please tell me tell me whether you sympathise or condemn people who take part in suicide bombing to fight injustice
>4% sympathise with people who take part in suicide bombings
>Net sympathise: 4% (completely sympathise: 1%, sympathise to some extent: 3%)
So it's actually 1% that's sympathetics and the 3% might have said something like 'well, if you grow up in a shithole dictatorship supported I can see how someone would turn to suicide bombing.' It also leaves out the percentage that condems suicide bombings.
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>>68255863

Who actually believes that? Do they do it by phone? Then they have your phone number. On the street? They know your face.

There's no such thing as anonymous, anon.
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>>68255995

They got the people in the study to give their answer on a card or something and then put it in a blind draw.

So they knew what percentage had X view within the sample but not whom gave that view.

Just like an anonymous ballot.
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Who the fuck even cares about the exact percentages? Are you really fine with islamists in your country as long as they only represent 5/10/30/49% of the muslim population and as soon as its above that magic number THEN its an issue? I dont get this thinking, each and every one is a fucking problem and they are a part of the islamic faith so less islam is the obvious and only proven solution!
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>implying Muslims won't just become the European version of niggers
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>>68255945
Well after each new terrorist attack, it seems the #NotAllMuslims or whatever the trendy hashtag movement is seems to be weaker and die off faster. It seems like they're slowly realizing this kind of activism does nothing, or perhaps just accepting these attacks are the new normal in the West.
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>>68256065
No, blacks have no political interrest aside from gibsmedats.
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>>68256123
It´s an argument that´s not gonna land with the target demographic at all.
>´NotAllMuslims´
no shit mate, but still 'QuiteALotOfMuslims'
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>>68255816

Extrapolating to the general muslim population in UK we're talking about tens of thousands.
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>>68255988
Stop posting logical things that contradicts my view towards muslims
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>>68256285
except you can't extrapolate these results to the general muslim population in the UK. These inquiries were only done in areas with >20% muslims, which are usually poorer and more religious and conservative.

>>68256301
I'll put up a trigger warning next time.
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>>68256474
>These inquiries were only done in areas with over 20% muslims, which are usually poorer and more religious and conservative.
that was the point of the programme.
baka.
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>>68256523
I know.

And that's why you can't generalise the results to the total muslim population.
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>>68253474
>You mean asians?
do they have slanty eyes and yellow skin? no?

> b-b-but muh britishisms
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>>68256474
So how does the survey scale? Would the Muslims living in a smaller community be more willing to integrate and, as a result, be more influenced by British norms?
Or does segregation start when a certain 'mass' of Muslims are congregated in one place regardless of how affluent the area is?
Perhaps Channel4 just happened to pick, by accident, the 2000 Muslims with the most controversial point of view in the whole of the UK. None of this was really explained.
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Any britbong anon willing to upload it?
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>>68255465
>>68255335
Have you ever considered the counterpoint to that, where a group of Jewish Feminist LGBT Atheists joyfully invite millions of Muslims into their country because they're tired of living under white patriarchal microaggressions?
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>>68256621
Maybe they would be better integrated (whatever that may mean). They might also be more conservative, clinging to their old values to maintain a form of identity.
I'm not really sure on segregation.. a lot of it stems from how you define it in the first place.

One thing that's not featured in the questionaire is ethnic and cultural background, which are probably more important in these issues than religion itself.
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>>68256774
>Jewish Feminist LGBT Atheists joyfully invite millions of Muslims into their country because they're tired of living under white patriarchal microaggressions
So they invite an even more patriarchal people in?
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>>68256824
Shit, I'm not saying it makes any fucking sense, I'm saying that it happens. We're in the midst of it. Tens of millions of Muslims have entered Europe because the very people who would die by Muslims hands first DEMANDED they be allowed in.
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Can a britbro comment on this?

I've seen a few videos on YouTube regarding sharia/muslim patrols. How do these people have ANY power? Don't your country's laws protect you and your fellow citizens from a set of foreign laws and wouldn't another group trying to push it's laws in your country be considered an invasion of sorts that could be handled by your military?

I can't imagine walking down some random street with my girl and being stopped by these people. There's no way it wouldn't end without me beating the dog shit out of at least one of these cunts. That brings up another question, aren't there any equally non-official groups trying to counter the sharia groups?
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>>68256894
>How do these people have ANY power?
They don't. That one ginger guy that always gets posted here ended up getting arrested fpr continued harassment.
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>>68256894
These laws apply in communities that are already majority Muslim and nobody in their right mind would just "walk into"

It's the same way that you just accept that you wouldn't walk through Detroit wearing a gold watch, and in fact you wouldn't walk through Detroit at fucking all.
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>>68256878
>Tens of millions of Muslims have entered Europe because the very people who would die by Muslims hands first DEMANDED they be allowed in.
This is fuckin insanity, it's shit like this that supports the line of thought that lbgt people are suffering with mental illness.
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>>68255795
You're dumber, because your black. That's the actual science.
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>>68256878
That was the amusing thing about Germany's initial response to the immigration crisis.
Being liberal and accepting is an admirable trait but when the people you're letting in only want to get away from a massacre, not actively go towards a different way of life, then you're bound to have problems.
Those people didn't want to change their culture, just not get killed by oppressive overlords. So when they find a place that allowed them to settle without reservation then of course they're just going to make themselves feel at home by trying to continue with their in-progress lives, no matter how much it clashes with their new host country.
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>>68256917
Good

>>68256929
I understand, using Detroit as an example simplified it for me, thanks for that. In the past i've thought "we should have the military enforcing law in detroit," I feel bad for cops in Detroit, and now for the cops in sharia law zones in the UK.

I understand that in the US we have several states with laws that neutralize sharia law, is that an option for the UK.

This is some scary shit and I feel bad for our britbros.
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>>68256929
How is that acceptable? To be afraid of walking around in a supposed civilized society?
Why are they not instantly deported? You want your sharia law and your backwards stone age ways? Well fuck off back to your country!
How is this acceptable at all?!
WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE!
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>immigrate
>don't want to integrate
>liberals will defend this
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>gf almost went to Germany last year
>tfw I can never see the glory and beauty of EU
talk about close call and disappointment

Is Europe turning it around? The only picture I have of Europe is that from this God forsaken website, tell me the memes aren't true.
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>>68256929
Not all of Detroit is complete shit and they're actively trying to clean it up. What is being done to combat your Muslim menace besides importing even more of them?
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>>68257104
It only gets worse from here on out senpai
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>>68257040
>How is that acceptable? To be afraid of walking around in a supposed civilized society?
It's not.
>Why are they not instantly deported?
To where? They're citizens.
>You want your sharia law and your backwards stone age ways? Well fuck off back to your country!
Already there mate.
>How is this acceptable at all?!
It's not.
>WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE!
You know you're not talking to fundamentalist muslims right now, right?
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>>68257104
you could go to poland
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>>68257113
I'm not trying to white knight the UK or go "no u" I'm just illustrating a point that most people understand.

There are neighborhoods you don't walk into, especially at night.

If anything, Americans understood this better than continental Europeans did until about 10 or 20 years ago because until very recently, western Europe was full of massive, safe, peaceful cities, which is a luxury the US has never really had. Brussels and Paris and Berlin are adjusting to realities any New Yorker could already easily grasp.
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>>68257104
I'm from belgium we literally have NO GO ZONES!
Molenbeek is a jihadist breeding ground where cops need to go in groups for safety reasons.
It's the kind of shit that keeps you up at night! Whatever you do don't visit anywhere in europe.
Don't be stupid there's plenty of other places to visit it's not worth dying over.
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>>68257195
It's hilarious how delusional Europeans are while you try and meme online about how dumb Americans are in comparison.
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>>68257216
>Whatever you do don't visit anywhere in europe.
jeses christ molenbeek is not the whole of belgium. What's with you alarmist nuts always hyping this stuff into eternity?
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>>68257157
This is bait.
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>>68257195
I'm honestly glad Europe will be taken over by Muslims. You people are so fucking stupid.
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>>68257234
It's not hilarious at all how you're reading judgement or aggression into posts where there is none.

The only person I think is fucking dumb at this point is you, and I'm not going to use your stupidity as a barometer for other Americans.
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>>68257104

It's not that bad. Most of it is in neighborhoods you wouldn't set a foot in otherwise anyway.

Just go and don't let fear control you.
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>>68257157
I'm just so mad i don't understand why europeans like myself are not waking up to this shit.
They should all be deported if they don't like the country they were born in.
Send them to the middle east where they can get blown up by other "moderate" muslims.
I just can't take this shit anymore and if you try and speak up about this crap your instantly a monster for trying to protect innocent lives.
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>>68257294
>If anything, Americans understood this better than continental Europeans did until about 10 or 20 years ago because until very recently, western Europe was full of massive, safe, peaceful cities, which is a luxury the US has never really had.
You can't actually be this dumb
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>>68257285
>no
>>68257389
I think you need to take a walk anon.
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>>68257104
Funnily enough, an American asked this question in some reddit board about going to Belgium a few days before the Brussels bombings and he was told to stop worrying about what the evil islamaphobes were saying the country is perfectly safe...
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>there's no Muslim issue in Europe!
>constant terrorist attacks
>no there's nothing wrong this doesn't happen often! I swear we're not being taken over its only a small population
>just don't go to certain neighborhoods because they're taken over by Muslims
I am so happy Europeans are going extinct. You're killing yourselves.
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>32% refuse to condemn those who take part in violence against those who mock the Prophet

This is the most shocking of all the statistics imo: one-third of muslims do not believe in the fundamental right to free speech that underlies the entire fabric of western civilization. Whatever their views on anything else, a the very minimum an entire third of muslims living in bongland are living on a different planet entirely than the natives of the UK.

I wonder what the response would have been if they asked "Do you agree that mocking the Prophet should be illegal?". My guess is it would have been well over 50% who said 'agree'.
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>>68257457
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>>68257457
My favourite is
>white people are all evil privileged racists
>white countries are the only countries striving for multicultural societies and equality
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>>68257389
Maybe you're right, maybe the big cities in Europe were always shit and Europeans were just naive fucks.

My point still stands that Americans in every metropolitan area immediately, instinctively understand the concept of a "no-go" zone and you just don't put any thought into it because the only things that exist in those zones anyway are liquor stores and check cashing shops so who cares.

And yes, I am saying that Americans have more inherent wisdom about this topic because there are plenty of wankers here who would blunder right into Molenbeek or Calais to seek "cultural enrichment"
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>>68257333
It's no wonder Muslims want to obliterate historical sites and prevent reading of anything except their holy texts. That way people won't realize this type of thing has happened before, once they become entrenched it's very hard to push them back.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Spain
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>>68257279
Yup, i'm just insane for freaking out about a terrorist breeding ground in my own country.
You're right i should probably relax and tolerate muslims more i'm the problem.
My best pal works at the airport that got blown up thankfully he wasn't working for that day.
Do you have any idea how that feels? Seeing the news and freaking out and calling people you love in that area and fearing for their lives? Do you?
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>>68257504
At least Americans haven't given up their guns yet while you are giving up all your rights to make Mohammed feel more comfortable
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>>68257504
what the fuck is this
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>>68257563
average rate of shitposting
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>tfw the media coverage is just trying to change the topic, ignoring the results and using a couple of examples as evidence to the contrary whilst clearly demonstrating they don't understand the statistics in the first place
Hate to say it, but that quote from Hitler was right. People really will try anything they can to avoid facing an unpleasant truth and then pretend they never did such a thing afterwards.
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my favorite part of all of this is how your police have been covering up crimes committed by Muslims so they are given any negative press
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>>68257563
Not the one who posted it but it's a map of US obesity rates by state.

This is such a worthless argument because obesity rates are through the roof in every country.

America is a country of fatasses because it's 33% obese, but svelt healthy nations like Australia, the UK, Spain and Canada are 27% obese and in downright anorexic countries like Ireland and Germany """"only"""" 25% of the population is obese.
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>birth rates drop significantly towards below replacement in first world Western, white countries after the Baby Boom
>America begins importing spics and European begins importing Mudslimes as a solution to this problem
Are spiteful leftists truly behind the shitskin pandemic or are they just useful idiots for the elites who realize the economical issue at hand?
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>>68257039

>and now for the cops in sharia law zones in the UK

Kek, those don't exist. I own some property in a highly muslim area, it's just a fast-gentrifying part of inner London. There's no question of there being any day to day danger towards police, or really to anybody else. The 'sharia zone' stickers are just put up by a tiny minority of nutters, and they're usually right next door to a pub full of hipsters, or a strip club, or some other kind of Western debauchery. Nigger areas are much more risky, you wouldn't catch me around one of those late at night, stabbings and shootings all the time.
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>>68255988
>literally muslim apologizer
r u srs?
>>68256301
b2 reddit or imgur, I read that "anti-circlejerk" response daily, it's like some hail mary there
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>>68257833
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>>68257333
>I'm just so mad i don't understand why europeans like myself are not waking up to this shit.

We exist bud but you cannot be publicly vocal about your opposition to the "Turn Europe Into the Worlds Doormat" agenda without being called a racist bigot and having the police come around for a wee chat about your hate speech.

The majority of Europes population is imo anti immigration but the lunatics have taken over the asylum and are willing to prosecute you for refusing to agree with them. Many can't afford to take the risk and keep their true feelings to themselves.
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>Caliphate
>Tom Kratman

>In the 22nd century European deathbed demographics have turned the continent over to the more fertile Moslems. Atheism in Europe has been exterminated. Homosexuals are hanged, stoned or crucified. Such Christians as remain are relegated to dhimmitude, a form of second class citizenship. They are denied arms, denied civil rights, denied a voice, and specially taxed via the Koranic yizya. Their sons are taken as conscripted soldiers while their daughters are subject to the depredations of the continent's new masters.

>In that world, Petra, a German girl sold into prostitution as a slave at the age of nine to pay her family's yizya, dreams of escape. Unlike most girls of the day, Petra can read. And in her only real possession, her grandmother's diary, a diary detailing the fall of European civilization, Petra has learned of a magic place across the sea: America.

Really good book anons, I recommend it to any Euros who want to see what lies for them in the future.

The diary is horrifically accurate of your typical pinkhair, as it was written before they existed.
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>White people keep starting a war in Muslim country because of muh oil
>Now they upset because of million of muslim refugee feeling to their country

You reap what you sow, feggit!!!
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>>68257279
We have similar shit in Sweden. Fuck off.
They just grow like parasites.
>>68257216
>>68257540
Gl, belgium bro.
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>>68257961
>Sweden
Sorry m8
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>>68257446
The fun part is how the guy advocating for belgium being safe, go so bombarded with PMs after that he edited his post and said something along the lines "Yes, I know what happened but that doesn't change my point you islamophobes!"

cant make this shit up
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>>68257948

Also Camp of Saints for the migrant crisis into Europe.
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>>68257554
True. America went full gun rights within the 20 couple of years whilst anti-gun groups started rising, mostly getting funding by Soros and Israel.

hmmmmm
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>>68257807
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/6418456/Labour-wanted-mass-immigration-to-make-UK-more-multicultural-says-former-adviser.html

>Writing in the Evening Standard, he revealed the "major shift" in immigration policy came after the publication of a policy paper from the Performance and Innovation Unit, a Downing Street think tank based in the Cabinet Office, in 2001.

>He wrote: "Earlier drafts I saw also included a driving political purpose: that mass immigration was the way that the Government was going to make the UK truly multicultural.

>"I remember coming away from some discussions with the clear sense that the policy was intended – even if this wasn't its main purpose – to rub the Right's nose in diversity and render their arguments out of date."
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>>68258029
The more I think about it, the more politics is purely economic. I doubt the elites sincerely push multiculturalism shit just because of a deluded ideology.
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>>68257954
I'm going to make the mistake of addressing your point directly.

Germany has been opposed to military intervention in the Middle East from day one of the War on Terror.

What Muslim unrest have they "sown" that they're now reaping?
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>>68257882
>>literally muslim apologizer
>r u srs?
What's wrong with pointing out problems with the survay?
>reddit or imgur, I read that "anti-circlejerk" response daily
ah that explains.

I'll just join you in your circlejerk then, erhm.. LITTERALLY ALL MUSLIMS ARE TERRORIST SCUM! HAIL TRUMP!
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>>68257948
Relax nigga, this whole shit is a false flag to wake up europe.

I could go into massive detail how everything works but im 2 lazy tb h
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>>68258073
That's not true since blacks provide no economic benefit whatsoever and are in fact a massive drain on the resources of every country they exist in.
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>>68258087
cancer post
newfag pls leave
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>>68257954
>Muslims have been warring against Christian Europe since the 7th century
>Idiots think that the only reason we're not getting along is because of George W. Bush
lel

Trump is the new Charles Martel and by God he will cut the head off of the Islamic snake once and for all. MAGA.
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>>68258082

You reap what you sowed in the 40s, goy.
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>>68255387
>It'd be like assuming all Americans were whinging neckbeards preoccupied with black dicks.

Most are.
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>>68258073
Israel literally setup a proxy war vs Syria so they can Iran's only strategical ally and then Iran itself which is solely based on ideology, which CIA, think tanks, MI6 and various intelligence networks including Mossad have stated in their reports and analysis because Israel fucking hates muslims.

Do you not know what the Iran deal was about? Even israelis paid hollywood actors like Morgan Freeman and Jack Black in an infomercial.

Jesus fuck man, read sometime.
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>>68257890

Not too far from there. My tenants pay a whole shitload in rent. I found it kind of amusing that they're Hindu, but have moved into one of the most Muslim areas in all of the UK.

Still, the high minority populations in the middle of town are entirely down to the gerrymandering policies of the Labour party. In the last 20 years or so, while the population has increased from 6 million to 8 million, the white British population has actually fallen by nearly a million. This is because, as life opportunities improved for the white population, they and their children moved out of the inner boroughs with high proportions of social housing. They were replaced, by and large, with poor immigrants. The inner boroughs with thse high concentration of poor minorities are sources of crime, terrorism, and social division. Nowhere needs to be 30-40% council housing, yet boroughs like Southwark, Tower Hamlets, and Hackney are, while private homes in those same boroughs now cost over half a million pounds. The healthy thing for society would be to disperse those concentrations, but that would remove the Labour party's client voter base, and we can't have that. Thankfully, based Tories are chipping away at social housing. We can only hope that they make enough of a dent in it before the political pendulum swings back again.
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>>68257961
>We have similar shit in Sweden. Fuck off.
I live in 'muslim' neighborhood in Amsterdam. It's not great, I'll say that. But to say that the whole of belgium has turned into a sharia zone is simply a lie.
>>68257540
You said:
>Whatever you do don't visit anywhere in europe.
Which is complete bullshit.
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>>68255430
and if you went to the arse-end of east anglia you'd get a bunch of inbred whites, what's your point?
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>>68258284
Those zones spread you mongrel. It did in Sweden. It did in the UK
It is now spreading in Belgium with more and more no-go zones.

Can you please fuck off?
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>>68258118
>not engaging the argument
>calling someone a newfag
>admitting to reading reddit every day
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>>68258304
spotted the muslim
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>>68258284
>But to say that the whole of belgium has turned into a sharia zone is simply a lie.
It will be someday because the Camel Jockeys have ten kids for every one that Europeans have.
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@68258353
newfag no one is replying to you because it's obvious you are fucking new to this site.

Please leave, this is my last reply 2 u
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>>68258304

>le east anglia is inbred meme

Anywhere that is homogeneous white in Britain is accused of being 'inbred'.
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>>68255330
>>68255795
>this one white virgin pretending to be black for (You)'s
>>>/r/eddit
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>>68258384
True, I grew up in a muslim zone.

Every family has min 2-3 kids even though they live in small apartments and shit.
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>>68258029
>"I remember coming away from some discussions with the clear sense that the policy was intended – even if this wasn't its main purpose – to rub the Right's nose in diversity and render their arguments out of date."

Your face when all this shit is causing ordinary people to seriously reevaluate Enoch Powells Rivers of Blood speech.
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>>68258325
>Can you please fuck off?
Haha what, can't take opposing views?

You should try tumblr.
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>>68254979
>52% of muslims believe being gay should be illegal
>39% of muslims believe the woman should obey the husbands command
Someone remind me why /pol/ hates Muslims, again?
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why don't the white Europeans and South Africans just move to Australia
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>>68256612
>Asia is only East Asia
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>>68258445
Reality > opinion. I lived through it and witnessed everything wrong with it.

Natives literally god killed and bullied for being white, you are a muslim so it's obvious why you are protective. But when the war comes I'll make sure to execute every single one of you, there is no deeper evil.
Just righteous one.
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>>68258464
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory
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>>68258464
Same reason roaches aren't human.
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>>68255388
>Britain First has 1,333,144 likes on Facebook
>My cousin likes them
What the fuck
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>>68253315
>liberal
more meaningless /pol/ buzzwords. Huxley was right once again.
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>>68258501
Calm down there breivik.

Seriously, try tumblr or stormfront or reddit some time. Lots of places there where no one will challenge your views.
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I still don't understand how people on the left can defend Islam. I'm a lefty and although I have Muslim friends (one of whom is one of the nicest people I've ever met) and yet it has many views so contradictory to what being left wing entails. How can I claim to be a feminist (in the old equlity sense, not the new one) and still defend a religion which is clearly disgusted by the thought of things like Suffrage?
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>>68258604
silly muslim, you won't be safe in eu when the time comes :^)
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>>68258481
Because if we did they'd just follow us a generation or two later once they managed to destroy all the institutions and infrastructure we left behind just like they did in Zimbabwe.
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>>68258530
>hurr durr everyone i don't like is subhuman therefore anything I say or do against them is morally justified
Sure buddy, whatever you say. By the way, that way of thinking (turning your enemies into subhumans) is very regressive and typical of hardline muslims. You sure you aren't secretly one of them? :^)
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>>68258631
muslim pls go
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ive got a BRILLIANT solution to ALL of this

People exchange! they love the UK/USA/West so much, fine let them ALL come here

then we can move to africa... 15 years later Africa is a paradise and Europe is Africa circa 1970-2016

I cant fucking WAIT. Africa is full of resources, Europe is a dead wasteland
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>>68258662

even better, Saudi Arabia. we'd turn that desert into a glorious beacon of civilization and they can have the freezing cold resource dead british caliphate
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>>68257104
If you're getting your world view from comments on 4chan, you should probably get off this website asap.
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>>68258719
Yes all of those terrorist attacks are just 4chan fiction
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>>68258650
I have clearly won. You've been intellectually checkmated by your own logical fallacies. Good day. Enjoy being exactly the same as the Muslims you hate so much.
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>>68257144
THE END IS NIGH
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>>68254324
A girl should take "be a man" and "grow a pair" as compliments. It means a man respects her enough that he thinks she owes it to herself and her peers to have some accountability and courage.
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>>68255393
See, the funny thing about the "not all (blank)" meme is that it's offensive to actual victims and derailing the conversation when you say "not all men" or "not all white people" but suddenly it becomes true and good to say "not all Muslims" when people are rightly concerned or discussing their greivances.

Fairness for me but not for thee. No such thing as bad tactics, just bad targets.
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>>68258779
So people should just join the invader?
Do you understand why wars exist?

Man I guess all conflicts are pointless since all they share is hate!
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>>68258560
Liberal isn't a buzzword, you fucking paki.
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>>68258353
>Engaging the argument
What argument? When you take the numbers into account, it's dangerous to the native population. A danger and a risk no sane person would be willing to take. Stop trying to distort the facts that this is a cancerous ideology and religion that wants to literally kill the West.
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>>68255694
'Liberals' =/= left-wing liberal. It used to be religious people who had what you call 'liberal' views. I assume it's only cause of social media that you think this is no longer true. Real liberals don't like racist or sexist expressions, but will fight for your right to have them. And liberals like higher taxes and equal rights (males having as many days off as females, etc). Religious share practically the same views as your 'liberals'.
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>>68259139
with
>Stop trying to distort the facts
you mean
>Please interpret the article just like the writer intended without questioning

I prefer not to become part of fear mongering from the right or the left.
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Which ethnic/religious group in the UK has the highest fertility rate?
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>>68259148
I've always found it strange that being called a Liberal in America isn't the same as being liberal. One's a political designation and the other's a state of mind. I have trouble telling which one the news is talking about sometimes.
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>>68254979
I'm pretty sure most of the Western Christians would match up with all of this because muh books, but the terrorist attacks thing is fucked up.

I wonder what the caveat of that is.
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>>68259275
Pakistanis.
Fertility rate of 4.
Indians have 2.5
Blacks have 2.
Whites have 2.

>tfw the future is dark
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>>68255094
tbf I wouldnt either, nobody likes a snitch.
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>>68259446
That doesn't make sense, Pakistanis are effectively Indians in all but religion.
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>>68258848
You can challenge and oppose people without becoming them or lowering yourself to their level.

The west's greatest achievement is the advent of liberal democracy and everything that entails, human rights and freedoms. A more civilised nation with more civilised principles.

To lower yourself to petty racial slurs, and attempts at dehumanising your enemies, you disgrace centuries of European enlightenment and advancement.

This doesn't mean we should ignore the Muslim problem - but how we discuss it, and how we deal with it.
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>>68254324
"WrongTruth" doesn't sound too doublespeaky to me. I think it would be more like "BadGoodSay".
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>>68255172

They where not "ghettos" when the white working class or dolers lived in them houses

suddenly they are ghettos now who need government assistance

stop
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>>68255388
>using escorts and liking Britain First on FB are the same as sharia law and jihad
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>>68259533
>in all but religion.
Yeah.
But it's Islam.
Which controls everything you do 24/7.

Go to the most liberal muslim and do ANYTHING to set them off.

Seriously, I had a Turkish lad and I joked that he prayed to sausages (because they don't eat pigs) and he lashed out like I had just pissed on his mother's grave.

Anecdotal evidence is shit I know but so is empirical evidence considering the response to Trevor Phillips' show.

There's just no way to point out the problem without being Hitler.
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>>68255562
its not really a conspiracy the fact that the republicans are working against him is all anyone's been talking about since he started running

breathing through my nose atm desu
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>>68257504
Some of you Eurocunts are so arrogant, you are literally being invaded, raped and murdered, but if an American points it out all you do is say b-but you're fat.

Have fun in the caliphate.
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>>68259239
>People getting decapitated on the streets
>Record number of terror attacks on European soil in a year and a half
>No go zones are becoming larger and more numerous

>MUH FEAR MONGERING
I know you like to pretend that you sit on the fence, but you're just as retarded as the leftist enablers who allowed this to happen.
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>>68259607
Well Britain First is basically the English version of muslims desu
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>>68259576
Holy shit you are a fullblown muslim
kill urslef
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>>68259614
>he prayed to sausages (because they don't eat pigs) and he lashed out like I had just pissed on his mother's grave.
your ignorence should be punished young man. also your joke is bad. maybe he was mad about your sense of humour?

there is a difference between west and east. you should understand that.

europe should stay away from middle east, usa should stay away from middle east.

you are throwing rocks at mud and you get angry when mud splahs on your cloths.
that's retarded.
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>>68259829
yeah but they're not responsible for over 100 terrorist attacks in the last two years
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>>68255890
>granny used to live in Newcastle when I was young
>whenever I went there, the streets she lived on were full of Muslims

???
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>>68259796
you have nothing to do, go post "deus vult" on /pol/
that will teach muslims.
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>>68255562
national poll aren't exactly reliable at this stage

reagan was losing to carter in the polls at this point in the 1980 election cycle
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>>68260109

That's right, ignore the facts and mock him, ignore the documentary the thread is about also

He is such a silly person to say things you can't contradict

you are clearly the moral superior
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>>68258464

Because they're a perpetual nuisance and they're in our countries and growing and thus need to be exterminated.

Expecting us to like them because we *both* hate progressives is like saying you should let another man fuck your wife because you both agree that 2+2=4.
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>>68260109

Muslims should be slaughtered until they flee Western Christian lands desu
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>>68255890

you haven't been to town in a long time
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>>68260330
i am not living in UK
that's UK's problem. i don't give a single fuck.
funny thing is, you are constantly bitching about "muslims are bad, islam is boohoo" yet you don't do anything. you can't do anything.
they are radicals for fucks sake. ofcourse they will support sharia, suicide bombings, jihad.
this is UK's problem not mine. do you think any muslim in malaysia or turkmenistan giving a fuck about muslims in UK or radicals?

if i make interviews iwth /pol/ users in real life, can i say "white christians are racist and extremist"?

also, you still have nothing to do? what can you do about this situation? instead of bitching?
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>>68260412
>Muslims should be slaughtered until they flee Western Christian lands desu
like you have balls to do it
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>>68260517

I don't go on /pol/

you just accuse everyone on /tv/ like you have it on macro

you could call them that if they were kicking up shit in a non christian nation
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>>68260517

These interviews where carried out in the uk you retard

you are in a thread about a uk documentary

take your /pol/ obsession else where
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>>68258494
>thatsthejoke.gif
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>>68258779
Autism: The Post
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>>68260572
>you just accuse everyone on /tv/ like you have it on macro
i am accusing /pol/ retards on /tv/, who cannot stand in their fucking contamination board and try to spread like plague.

nobody BTFO muslims, they don't give a fuck about you, they don't give a fuck about trevor philips. world is bigger than 4chan.
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>>68260696
Stay salty, Abdul.
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>>68254979
>52% of muslims believe being gay should be illegal

Why is this bad again?
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>>68260637
>take your /pol/ obsession else where
/pol/ obsession?
it's /pol/'s obsession of contaminate the other boards with their stupid shit.
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>>68260737
you clearly showed me, my family is terrified with "deus vult" and "kebab remove" memes.
oh no, what are we gonna do?
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>>68259307
>I have trouble telling which one the news is talking about sometimes.
you and 90% of your country
I've had political conversations with americans and they get confused as fuck when I use terms they are used to in a completely different manner
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>>68260810

What muslims do when confronted with something they don't like: blow it, and each other, straight to hell.
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>>68260696

you are just a moral crusader who browses /tv/ and can only provide telling people to go to /pol/ when his arguments get countered

/tv/ isn't just for your comic movies, Its for shit thats on /tv/ and you joined a thread about a topic where stats are not on your side

channle 4 is completely biased and people think its funny that statistics foiled another stunt

nothing to do with /pol/

The world is bigger than 4chan this doesn't make any of your arguments valid

There is a serious problem at the moment with immigration and just becuase you say there isn't or no-one cares doesn't make it true
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>>68260810
>what are we gonna do?
Complain about it on an anime imageboard?
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>>68254979
Perhaps those who won't report the attacks, or a sizeable amount, are like people here in Northern Ireland in that if you 'tout' or grass the IRA or UDA, you'll at the very least get your knees done, more than likely a bit of brass in the back of your head.
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>>68259796
>le shift the goal posts
jesus you're a retard.
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>>68253755
This is standard security protocol
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I don't get it, why are Muslims so inherently evil bros? Is it just their nature? Culture? So sad...
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>>68260874
>go to /pol/ when his arguments get countered
radical muslims in UK is not about /tv/, they are subject of /pol/'s shitpost, because in cinema vise, they are irrevelant
>/tv/ isn't just for your comic movies
i don't watch manchildren movies, capeshit, false flag SJW's and /pol/ should stay away from /tv/ and this board should be pure /cinemae/. but you retards keep coming, you are like flying flies around a horseshite.
>where stats are not on your side
there is no side for me, i don't give a fuck about UK, muslims in UK, radical muslims, unlike you /pol/, i've a life and i am not obsessed with people i don't even met.
>nothing to do with /pol/
this is a /pol/ bait thread, you know it, i know it, so stop pretending you are arguing about a documantary. spread you hate and GTFO
>There is a serious problem at the moment with immigration
but this is UK's problem. why doesn't they solve it?
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>>68260914
>Complain about it on an anime imageboard?
like /pol/, i get it
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>>68261271
Their idea of the perfect man, a man to be idealized and emulated, is Muhammad - a warmongering schizophrenic pedophile who endorsed slavery, rape, genocide, and personally beheaded hundreds.
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link pls
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>>68261272
Sounds like somebody's flustrated that he has to share his 4chan with other anons.
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>>68259239
>I prefer not to become part of fear mongering from the right or the left.

Cunt detected.
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>>68260553

it's illegal
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>>68255430
source?
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>>68261272
>i've a life and i am not obsessed with people i don't even met.

except for /pol/ and long winded posts on 4chan
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>>68261272
>is not about /tv/,
>you are like flying flies around a horseshite.
>people i don't even met.
>why doesn't they solve it?
> spread you hate and GTFO


your grammar is atrocious
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>>68257104
come to Prague m8 i see like one muslim in two weeks (and i take the subway through the city center every single day in the peak hours)
cool city too and it's just as european as paris
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>>68259578
Hey Joe.
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>>68258304
>and if you went to the arse-end of east anglia you'd get a bunch of inbred whites, what's your point?
those "inbred" whites belong here, as they are native brits.

Those muslim hoardes do not.
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The uk is dead

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3540132/Two-drivers-attacked-Calais-rest-area-20-strong-mob-Britain-bound-Eritrean-migrants.html
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>>68254979
>66% of muslims declared they would not notify the police of upcoming terrorist attacks
Does this mean they know and won't notify? Because an upcoming attack sounds like it'd be kept under wraps (ha) by the attackers
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>>68258699
>we'd turn that desert into a glorious beacon of civilization
I'd like to turn it into a glorious bacon civilization, not intended to be anti-muslim, but bacon is delicious. I bet most wars could end if the heads of state sat down together and shared a plate of bacon.
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Now that they can't cover-up the Cologne sexual-assaults that happened, the Justice Minister of Germany has publicly blamed the attacks on "misogynistic sexualized depictions of women" on public billboards, which he believes "compelled" Islamic immigrants into a frenzy of rape.

http://www.dw.com/en/german-justice-minister-maas-slammed-over-proposed-sexist-advert-ban/a-19179720

This is the world Europe is creating.
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>>68253184
>All those sites saying the data was "skewed" because they went to muslim areas in Britain
>Skewed by getting their information from areas with a lot of muslims, where other races aren't allowed because they're not muslim, on a documentary about what muslims really think about shit like this when they aren't around real brits

The Guardian one was especially stupid and boiled down to "investigative journalism is wrong because MUH FEELINGS"
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>>68268008
and he got slammed for it
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I've spent most of the day trolling lefties online about this programme.

>waaahhh the results didn't turn out how I wanted so the methodology must be flawed!
>waaahhh they only tested Muslims in Muslim communities and not in my multiculti liberal SJW courses at Oxford wahhhhahhh


kudos to Phillips, he has provided me with endless ammunition
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