Were we really supposed to believe that Starbuck was not only the best pilot left in the fleet, but somehow also their best shooter (despite the presence of marines and enlisted and officers whose job was security and not flying), an above average mechanic with the ability to learn how a Cylon raider ship works in less than a day, a boxer that can keep up with the men of the fleet, an excellent interrogator, Viper pilot trainer and nearly pro-level at Pyramid?
I can buy the best pilot and trainer stuff and, hell, even that she has a history that allows her to he such a good Pyramid player, but the rest of the stuff makes no sense for someone whose job in the fleet is to be a pilot.
TV scifi is incredibly cringeworthy.
>>68091462
She also got resurrected after she died.
Legit question: Does Starbuck count as an actual Mary Sue character considering she was basically the best at most things?
>>68091512
not all of them. BSG, Star Trek, yeah but SG-1 and The expanse is goat
>>68091462
she was best in that space-poker too as i recall
>>68091542
Å very annoying Mary Sue but still
>>68091462
GRRRRRR I HATE WOMEN TOO!
>>68091589
Ah, yeah. And wasn't she a pretty competent security/investigator along with Apollo in that random black market episode? And able to hold her liquor at Saul levels?
Wasn't she the son of god or something? I think they at least attempted to excuse the bad writing.
>>68091462
Best shooter?
Haven't seen this in a while,when/how is this pointed out?
>>68091703
>Haven't seen this in a while,when/how is this pointed out?
During the prison ship episode when she volunteers to be the sniper, everyone agrees that she is the best shot.
Chief Tyrol was beat character.
>best mechanic
>best girlfriend's
>skilled tactician in battle scenarios
>strong as fuck
>respected by everyone that matters
>secretly immortal cylon
>>68091542
A Mary Sue is the self insert and/or power fantasy of the author.
>>68091542
Not sure if a Mary Sue can be an alcoholic and bad at keeping a bf.
I remember dark moments of her crying lone over mistakes she made.
I can't wait for TFA to be a distant memory,that way a woman can just be a character and this MAry Sue garbage can end.
Nobody calls pic related a Barry Snu(male version)
>>68091462She's an angel.
It's more just a TV thing. Like how Apollo became a fucking lawyer.
>>68091462
I liked it for a few episodes while it was a space scavenge hunt
>>68091753
You forgot the most important one
>knows what to do with traitors
>>68091550
Just admit that it's all bad.
Could Starbuck outfly prime Admiral Adama?
only the ladies and the GitS-like theme, "how human can be a machine?" is the only good in this show.
Other things are cringe worthy.
Why was she so cute, /tv/?
>>68092109
worst character
>>68091462
In WWI, the Red Baron was even more feared as a marksman than as a pilot.
>>68091753
>secretly immortal cylon
What was up with half of the cast turning out to be cylons by the end? Really dumb
>>68091542
No, because her competence can be explained by divine intervention, and while she was very good at a lot of things, she was a complete emotional and psychological wreck.
On an unrelated note, having just rewatched BSG on a whim, fuck Laura Roslin. She is the most unlikable cunt ever to live, constantly fucks everyone over with her retarded decisions, and is so pointlessly vindictive that it defies belief.
>>68091462
Starbuck was never even real tho. :^)
She was just some sort of spirit sent to guide them to the new earth.
fuck that ending man
>>68091462
>Were we really supposed to believe that Starbuck was not only the best pilot left in the fleet
She's not even a human, senpai
How can he keep getting away with it?
>>68092321
I love the ending
>>68092349
bad writing
>>68091658
One day you will wake up, realize you're in your late 30's, it will hit you like a ton of bricks how much you wasted your life for the cause of feminism, particularly that it got you exactly nothing.
>>68092321
never???
>>68092321
I loved and hated the ending Baltars was perfect, I hated Lees, I can't help but feel bad fr him, his fiance/baby die, his h gf leaves him and then his wife offs herself, he finally gets the love of his life only for her to fuck off to the afterlife to be with a badly written replacement character which leaves the question of what does her old fiancee do?
>>68091462
>somehow also their best shooter
she was a shitty shooter? she fucked up real bad in that episode where billy got killed
she was also a completely shitty interrogator who got nothing out of people.
she was a fuckup in a lot of things that weren't piloting
>>68091935
They almost had six join in with Baltar during his bang session with Starbuck...would have been fap worthy.
a real human bean
>>68092639
wait when did baltar and starbuck bang?
>>68091462
she is jesus, what do you expect
the show was far from perfect but it had some genuinely good elements. the acting was in many cases much better than usual in this kind of scifi schlock things
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDzT0ga4xtw
>>68092852
starbuck cringy as fuck though. probably worst in the series
>>68092691
first season, Starbuck walks in on him banging six and thinks he's having a weird jerk off session, they bang Baltar starts talking to six and starbuck gets weirded out and leaves.
>>68091785
Rey single handedly led to the term expanding to not just refer to self inserts anymore but simply "flawless female character"
>>68091817
It's Gary Stu retard. And nobody called it that cuz the term wasn't around for another 15 years.
But you honestly never heard people mocking McGyver before?
And no the Mary Sue thing won't end while Disney are pushing the same "empowered" (to rhyme with flawless) female characters in every Star Wars movie.
>>68092109
Because she is best girl, naturally
>>68092349
By being Gaius FRACKIN' Baltar
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmdclSgH3JA
>>68093681
>best girl is a boy
are you gay?
why does she smoke?
>>68093288
wow totally forgot that part, been a whle since i saw it. Baltar got about
>>68093776
Boys can't get preggers you doofus
>>68093897
>Baltar got about
To the point both Roslyn and Adama where both annoyed but not surprised when Baltar became the head of a mostly female cult.
Question: Will all of this happen again?
>>68093897
Based Baltar
Baltar is really the best character. No one else gets away with so much shit as he does
![johnson-t7000-t8000-treadmill-emergency-stop-switch-[2]-2398-p.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/yXNGuuG.jpg "johnson-t7000-t8000-treadmill-emergency-stop-switch-[2]-2398-p.jpg")
>>68094033
no, we will install kill switches on any sufficiently advanced machine.
we install them on treadmills for fucks sake
Who /remembers/ here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_IsptRrIak
>>68094141
hated by both humans and cylons but somehow makes it to the end. force is strong with that one
>>68094246
Amazing soundtrack regardless of what you think of the series
>>68094246
>final five reveal episodes
best ones in the series
>>68094246
>>68091462
she also paints and plays piano
>>68091542
>Has discipline issues, so much so that she comes near the bottom of her class
>Is inadvertently responsible for the death of her fiancée
>Marries some other dude because she is afraid to truly commit to her feelings for Apollo
>Is held captive and forced to play house with a creepy Cylon for months whilst on New Caprica
>Was abused as a child at the hands of her mother
>Has severe mommy and daddy issues
>Is a raging alcoholic
>Feels threatened when a new hotshot rises from the ranks (Cat)
>Didn't immediately tell Adama Admiral Caine wanted her to assassinate him
Thats not very Mary Sue
>>68091817
>Barry Snu
Gary Stu, dipshit, and yes people make fun of those too
How did you react to this scene?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ0bdx66dBc
>>68095049
With shock
Enjoyed watching my gf react to it
>>68091542
No because she's a massive screw-up
>>68095049
This was probably the hardest to watch though. All the joy and excitement and all they find is scorched earth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=db_RPx4S8e0
I'm thinking about giving this another shot, and starting from the beginning. Aside from some of the main story beats, I don't really remember much about it, and I never finished the series.
Pyramid was such a stupid fucking game.
>>68091542
No because she is deeply flawed despite being exceptional at the cool shit
I preferred the character as a man really.
>>68091462
>>68091542
She's a soldier, you fucking numb skulls.
If you're implying Mary Sue, I need to stop you there.
Starbuck, along with being a long time soldier, also had a shitty life and is a fucking depressive alcoholic with low self esteem and a bad temper that effect the crew.
>>68092245
Fuck you, it's not dumb.
It was so fucking hype when the people you least expected to be cylons found out and met with each other, All Along the Watchtower starts fucking blasting, then fucking Starbuck comes back and says she knows where EARTH is, and THEN it fucking travels through space to actually show us Earth itself for the first time. Literally one of the best endings to a season of a TV series in history.
