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First up, John Kasich on Fargo:

"I was in my local video store looking for a movie to watch with my wife, Karen, during one of our few quiet evenings together at home. The clerk in the store recommended Fargo, a perversely dark crime story that had played to generally enthusiastic reviews. The movie even earned a Best Actress Oscar for Frances McDormand for her role as a pregnant Midwestern sheriff, and the guy behind the counter at Blockbuster assured me it was a great movie and that I should probably rent it."

"So I did. Walked right over to that shelf where they had their general titles, grabbed a copy and took it home, and when Karen and I got to the part where they chop up a guy in a grinder we looked at each other and thought, What the heck are we watching here? It was billed as a comedy, but it wasn’t funny. It was graphic, and brutal, and completely unnecessary, and it rubbed us in so many wrong ways we had to shut the thing off right there in the middle... Next morning, I got on the phone to Blockbuster and demanded that they take the movie off their shelves."

"I couldn’t say firsthand whether the situation had gotten any better, because I had taken my business elsewhere, but from all accounts not much had changed, so I called the store again to remind them of our deal, and it got to where Karen had to tell me to back off because I was driving everyone crazy. I’d made my point, she said, and it was time to move on, so I did, but not before the columnist George Will picked up on the story."

"Usually, I speak out against the status quo on behalf of the little guy, but sometimes I get a little crazy and go off about something like this Fargo business, with no real expectation but to let off some steam. I can’t imagine it’s all that much fun to be on the receiving end of one of my tirades, but I’m here to tell you it isn’t much fun to be making the delivery either."

http://www.businessinsider.com/john-kasich-fargo-blockbuster-2015-7
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Ted Cruz's favorite movie is The Princess Bride.

http://www.conservativebookclub.com/11713/author-interviews/guess-what-ted-cruzs-favorite-movie-is

Here he is performing one of his favorite scenes of his favorite film:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_mcie4Nasw
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A Republican with no sense of humour trying to get things censored? Now I've seen everything!
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Bernie Sanders haven't said what his favorite movie is, but believe it or not, Sanders actually has two acting credits to his name. He appeared in the 1999 comedy My X-Girlfriend’s Wedding Reception as Rabbi Manny Shevitz, where he laments the move of the Brooklyn Dodgers to Los Angeles. Nope, we’ve never heard of it either. Here's the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWl6TLvlFEk#t=15
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>>68057060
*Bernie Sanders hasn't said
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>>68057060
>rabbi
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Donald Trumps five favorite films are:

Citizen Kane, (which is his favorite)
The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly
Gone With the Wind
Goodfellas
The Godfather

Here's Donald giving his interpretation and thoughts on his favorite film, Citizen Kane:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upC8pX3RY0A
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>>68056965
what a fucking pleb
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>>68057151
Trump has taste? I'm confused.
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>>68057151
forgot source for the list:

http://movieline.com/2012/09/19/if-you-dont-like-these-films-youre-fired-donald-trump-picks-five-favorite-flicks-for-movieline/
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>>68057151
>patrician taste

amazing
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>>68057151
How can you forget Trump loves Home Alone 2: Lost in New York
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Hilary Clinton hasn't said what her favorite film is, but three of her favorites are:

The Wizard of Oz - “When I was much younger [it] was my favorite movie. I just loved imagining myself being there with Dorothy and being part of that great adventure she had.”

Casablanca - When I was in college and law school…””I watched it I don’t know how many times. It was always so much fun. By the time we watched it over and over again, we were actually reciting the dialogue.”

and Out of Africa

Her favorite actors are Meryl Streep and Robert Redford

http://www.slashfilm.com/the-favorite-movies-of-the-presidential-candidates/
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>>68057151
So he basically just picked the top movies on the AFI Greatest Films list? Trump is a pleb
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>>68057280
+1 point for mentioning Redford
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>>68057151
American Pleb
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>>68057151
The Kino Candidate
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>>68056965
>>68057151
lmao plebs
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>>68057151
>all my favorite films are in the imdb top 100
didn't know trump goes on r/movies
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>>68057304
The Bible is his favorite book
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>>68057378
Trump is basically the biggest reddit candidate so it's no suprise
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>Liking a set of highly recommended movies is Reddit
This place, I swear
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>>68057004
Well. Now I HAVE to.
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>>68057422
>the biggest reddit candidate
That title goes to Bernie Sanders. Most of his memes are weed related. Pathetic.
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>>68057060
Battleship Potemkin
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>>68057151
Absolute patrician.
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>>68057459
back to your safespace with you.
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>>68057151
>The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly
Fucking BASED
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>>68057151
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxyPQ4_Xeqc
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>>68057004
Mel Brooks, Smeell crooks.

Jews, & I love Jesus, but fuck you Princess Brides is your kiss towards the christians.

CAPITALIZING christians?!
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>>68057562
Bitch, this is my safe place, I just like complaining about it
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>Kasich is Carefully Programmed Politician Bot 3000

>Cruz is an autist

>Sanders acted in an obscure NYC art house comedy

>Trump is an IMDB list pleb who literally missed the entire point of Citizen Kane

>Clinton is Carefully Programmed Politician Bot 3000

So lads, I'm gonna have to feel the Bern on this one.
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>>68057459
I don't know about him being Reddit (I still haven't been able to figure out what the fuck that even means) but Trump gets 0 points for originality.

Could he make it any more obvious that he just looked up "greatest movies" lists on the internet?
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>>68057265
only 1 scene!
only one
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>>68057618
vote for mcafee
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>>68057663
mcafee wants open borders and free healthcare for illegal aliens
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Is Kasich gay?

I get the impression that he's secretly gay.
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>>68057663
What are his favorite movies.
Also if Bernie isn't nominated McAfee will become the new bernie.
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>>68057618
He's the only one that seems more like a human anyway - the rest of these candidates are like defective robots

>>68057714
For you
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>>68057033
He fucked up, if you want to censor people you gotta be a SJW now days.
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>>68057705
no he wants a simple path to citizenship and thinks a welfare state cant exist with open borders
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>>68057488
Check out /pol/. They unironically crosspost.
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>>68056965
This shit proves Kasich will never be president. Cap this shit
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>>68057618
You'll be feeling the bern later when you lose your job and die of poverty
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>>68057422
>Feel le bern
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>>68057928
>/r/TheDonald
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>>68057151
patrician taste
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>>68057950
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>>68057151
That video is actually kind of sad in a way. You basically see a human being watch a movie most people could never understand on a personal level like he does, and watching him describe it is actually really cool.

also I'm pretty sure Tommy Wiseau tried to copy Orson Welles when trashing The Room at the end of The Room.
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All of them have typical terrible amerifat taste

Meanhile Vladimir Putin's favourite film is an almost six hour long russian spy-thriller titled "The Shield and The Sword"
Based Vlad
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>>68057151
>that interpretation
>wealth
kek
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>>68058403
Putin is a raging autist
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>>68058403
>6 hour movie that he only watched once while drinking vodka and passing out constantly is his favorite
what a patrician
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>>68057151
Based.
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>>68058328

I'm pretty sure it's a guy watching a movie that is essentially about him and completely missing the point altogether because he's incapable of self refelction
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>>68057176
Populists are all secretly intellectuals.

But in this case, it's just Trump ego speaking as usual because he thinks he's Citizen Kane.
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>>68056965
This man never watch movies and just pretend he is so he can be seen as a conservative protecting family values, but he's so ignorant he can't even pick a proper controversial movie.

Also he's stupid, he makes a "deal" with Blockbuster but never go back. What's the point ?
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Rank em, pleb to patrican.

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-35965362
>Hillary Clinton Wizard of Oz, Casablanca and Out of Africa
>Bernie Sanders The Big Short
>Donald Trump Citizen Kane, Good, the Bad and the Ugly, The Godfather, Goodfellas, Gone with the Wind
>Ted Cruz Princess Bride
>John Kasich School of Rock
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>>68057618
Based on that story, kasich seems more like a psycho than a carefully programmed robot
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>>68056965
>The clerk in the store recommended Fargo, a perversely dark crime story that had played to generally enthusiastic reviews.
> What the heck are we watching here? It was billed as a comedy, but it wasn’t funny.

Wait, so the clerk told him it a perversely dark movie, and he was surprised it was violent?
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>>68056965
>You will never be a Proto-SJW, getting to lecture people at a Blockbuster that their movie was evil and to try to remove it again

Those 90's feels.
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>>68059014
It wasn't dark enough for him.
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>>68058883
CLINTON:
> Wizard of Oz
Pandering to old people
> Casablanca
Pandering to old people
> Out of Africa
Might be a genuine taste of her

SANDERS
> The Big Short
Pure pleb, don't give a fuck about movie, just want to pander to young people.

TRUMP
> Citizen Kane
Pleb because he took it on surface level
> The Good, the Bad and the Ugly, Godfather, Goodfellas
Trying to look like a badass while giving no fucks about those movies.
> Gone in the Wind
Probably never watch it in 40 years, suggested by some communication team.

CRUZ:
> Princess bride
Can be genuine or just good communication team

KASICH
> School of Rock
This man scares me
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>>68058883
Trump>Shillary>Zodiac Killer>Kasich>Cuck Sandlers
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>>68058883
Sanders is unironically top tier there, that's the only one that feels like a genuine answer for one
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>>68059165
>So obsessed over Wall Street that he can't even answer a question about movies without naming a movie about Wall Street
I honestly hope that wasn't genuine, because otherwise that's just fucking sad.
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>>68058669
what is the point of citizen kane then?
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>>68056965
>not liking Fargo

REEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>68059203
yeah it's like there's a reason for being obsessed with Wall Street and that film actually describes it
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>>68058883
Trump with the fucking classic taste
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>>68059269
>what is the point of citizen kane then?
hating guys like Trump
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>>68059389
feel the bern, brother
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>>68057004
Gotta hand it to Cruz he has good taste 2bh
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>>68057151
>presidential candidate
>Gone with the Wind
Absolute mad man
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>crossposting reddit cancer defending Trump
every fucking thread
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>>68057562
You can stay here in this safeplace familam
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>>68059389
But that's wrong, you fucking faggot.
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>>68059490
yep. Feel the Bern brother. Dont forget to visit us on /r/Bernie_Sanders_for_President
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>>68059490
>crossposting reddit cancer complaining about Trump

Every fucking /tv/ thread I swear
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>>68059389 (You)
>>68059490 (You)

:^)
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>>68056965

I didn't think it was possible for me to hate Kaisch any more than I already did. What a fucking pleb.
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>>68059574
>Every fucking /tv/ thread I swear
>/tv/ thread
>/tv/

crossposter detected. Go back to /v/
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>>68059572
/r/The_Donald had more clicks than le bern in March

>redditors defending their meme candidate
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>>68059572
>>68059574
Nice projection
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>>68056965
GOLLY GEE WILLICKER DADDY'S A MAILMAN , OHIO BTW
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>>68059646
sounds like the cuck is being put in his shed by the alpha.
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>>68059678
Only projection here is yours, you stupid fucking faggot
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>>68056965
I hope that piece of shit burns. He has shit taste in movies and he's a fucking lunatic who would start fucking WW3.
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>>68058741
His perspective on the movie is actually pretty good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upC8pX3RY0A
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>>68057004
That was a pretty patrician enactment desu. He got the voices and everything.
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>Nichols said that Obama admitted he'd harbored a huge crush on Lt. Uhura while growing up, confirming that he's "definitely a Trekker."

>According to Homeland's Damian Lewis, who stars as a former POW suspected of being a turned terrorist, the President is such a fan of the Golden Globe-winning Showtime drama that he sat the actor directly across from him at the recent State dinner for the British Prime Minister.

>President Obama upped the ante when he insisted in an interview with Bill Simmons that The Wire is actually "one of the best shows of all-time."

>When People asked Michelle Obama if her husband forbids their daughters from watching any TV shows, she said the president draws the line at Keeping Up With the Kardashians

>Obama's favorite movie is one that routinely tops any fan-voted list, says Maggie Van Ostrand at Film School Rejects: Francis Ford Coppola's 1972 classic The Godfather. His second favorite: The Godfather II. But what of the third installment in the saga? The discerning Obama is not a fan. "III, not so much," he'd said of the critically-maligned sequel.

Make way for a true patrician President
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>it's a Trump shills vs Sanders shills thread
>again
>not still standing with Rand
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>>68056965
>he called his local Blockbuster Video to demand they take Fargo down from the shelves

haha, what a tool

and he actually takes pride in being so loud and proud of being uncultured
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>>68057151
>Get yourself a different woman

BASED
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>>68057151
>Patrician
he just read IMDBs Top 250 and picked a few thatd he'd seen
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>>68057599
I don't get it Cruz is as christian as you can get. He takes holy crusade literally
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>>68057151
he's actually pretty based.

>>68060202
always a cool dude
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>>68060202
Honestly Obama seems like a president who will do his best work outside of office.
Can't wait for him to be a shit-talking old black guy causing trouble.
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>>68060202
>>68060494
>>68060705
If only he wasn't a huge freedom hating faggot that hates America and wants it to be like any European country
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>>68060758
To be earnest my family, I'd rather follow his lead than a faggot like you

Despite Conservatives in this country branding him everything from a Muslim in secret to the anti-Christ, he's been a pretty decent president and a stand-up dude. Disagree with his politics if you want, but he brought class and respectability to the White House.
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>>68059788
umad?
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>>68060202
>The Wire
Obama wins again.
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>>68060758
i'm too cynical to believe it actually matters who sits in as the president, senators, congressmen - hell even judges have more power.

and not to delve into illuminati type shit, there's always a hierarchy in everything so someone's definitely pulling the president's ropes as well. my logical conclusion would be billionaire companies, big oil etc.
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>>68060940
>but he brought class and respectability to the White House

No he didn't.

He fixed some of the dumb shit that Bush did, but that's not only unimpressive, but fully expected of even the most incompetent jackass. He's been a terrible fucking president, it's just that it doesn't seem like it because the last one we had so much fucking worse.

>>68061009
The President, as well as every other representative in this country, does indeed have a say, and a very big one at that. Of course they will always be influenced by lobbyists and people with loadsamone, but they can still do what they want at the end of the day.
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>>68061009
>illuminati type shit

MK Ultra was real and the government spies on everyone constantly. Pretending to be jaded about "kooky conspiracy theories" is for idiots.
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>>68057663
you know you're going to have a hell of a time trying to uninstall him as President if he gets in
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>>68057705
nice try shill
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>>68060705
he bought a house in dubai and plans to GTFO from america. Don't get your hopes up too much.
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>>68060971
Quality post, my redditor friend
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>>68061287
>bought a house in Dubai

top fucking lmao

Nothing more really needs to be said about this man and his character
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>>68060705
Kek, your view of Obama has no basis in reality. He has no noblesse oblige, he's gonna be a professional celebrity and never work again.
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LOOK AT MY HANDS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxyPQ4_Xeqc
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>>68061087
Okay, faggot, if Obama and Bush were both so terrible then who was the last good president, in your opinion?
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>>68060940
>he's been a pretty decent president and a stand-up dude. Disagree with his politics if you want, but he brought class and respectability to the White House.
Fucking hell, how can you be this stupid? He has been an absolutely terrible president. Obamacare is a mess, he went back on most of his promises, Russia and other countries think he's a spineless coward, the list goes on.
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>>68056965
>i got to the part where they chop up a guy in a grinder
>had to shut the thing off right there in the middle
Except it's literally the end of the fucking movie, more or less.
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>>68057151

holy fuck

based don
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>>68061396
>defending Obama and Bush
Wew lad, you're dumber than I thought.
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>>68057060
Pretty funny tbqh comrades
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>>68061443
I'm not defending anyone. I'm asking you your opinion since you seem to have a strong one regarding who has and has not been a good president.

Stop dodging the question, retard.
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>>68058328

this
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England here. Why do Americans hate Obama? Without using the words "reddit, cuck, dindu, commie" please.
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>>68061647
Because he's black. They just try and find other excuses.

Obama's pretty based.
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>>68061396
Kennedy or Nixon. Clinton was almost as bad as Bush, and all of them before Clinton were just mediocre. Special mentions do go to Reagan just for getting us through the Cold War, and he'd have been great if it weren't for his pants on head retarded tax, and Ford who was really good at not doing anything and fucking everything up.

>>68061692
No he's fucking not
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>>68057060
He looks a lot different with that hair.
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>>68061726
What don't you like about him? The way he bends over backwards to compromise with the right, a la Obamacare? Or the way that he ruthlessly pursues and destroys terrorists?

Exactly, faggot. You're just mad.
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>>68061726
>Kennedy or Nixon

Whom I'm guessing you weren't alive to experience. Nor did either of them finish out their terms.

Go fuck yourself. In 100 years people will remember Obama for achieving quite a bit of progress. Not FDR levels, but he'll be right alongside guys like Kennedy and Nixon who got certain things done and compromised or were compromised elsewhere.

What do I know, though, I'm a moderate. History isn't written by fence-sitters like me.
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>>68061385
Is trump BANE to obama's batman?
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what movies does the trout mask replica guy from 4 years ago like
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>>68057151
He looks a bit like Owen Wilson here.
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>>68061647
He has made it clear he doesn't care about America's various ideals that it's held for hundreds of years. He's made it clear time and time again that he wants to bring change to America to make it like the rest of the world, discarding what makes America a truly exceptional state. He has done everything he can to circumvent the US government checks and balances system to get what he wants done, because nobody else wants to let him do what he wants, because everything he wants to do is fucking terrible. He's done more aggravate race relations in this country than anyone alive today. He has set horrible precedents for us in the political field all around, a particularly concerning one being his intervention in Libya. Obamacare has drawn criticism, but I'm not sure just how far reaching its negative impact has been.

He's done a lot as President, I'll grant you. But by nature of doing a lot, it means that while he's done some good, he's also had a truckload of major fuck ups, those fuck ups actually being fucking intentional in some cases.

>>68061760
Fuck off you dumb fucking faggot.

>>68061858
He's been fine in some cases, and like I said he's fixed some bullshit that other presidents have done. But he's by no means been a good president, and if America can ever truly return to its roots, Obama will be remembered as an ass hole that tried to change America to something it wasn't.
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>>68062013
>idle conjecture
>idle conjecture
>idle conjecture
>wah wah obamacare BTW I don't understand it lol :)

Can someone who isn't a functional retard answer my question please?
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>>68062013
So you're an isolationist and you're mad that Obama has tried to adjust the United States to keep up with the rapid change that has occurred due to A) Globalization B) The internet and digital technology and C) The rise of more than one superpower in the world via the European Union, Russia, the Arab States, China, and Latin America to a certain degree?

You think America can continue to set the agenda and force the rest of the world to follow lockstep? It's not 1950 anymore, bro. There are more competing powers and we're better off cooperating than cutting ourselves out or trying to act superior only to be put in our place by vindictive countries and their growing economies.
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>>68062146
I just told you what many Americans hate about Obama you faggot, you can ignore it if you like, but it doesn't change the fact that those are the very reasons why the Americans who you are referring to probably hate Obama. The fact that you don't take that seriously is reflective of the fact that you probably really just don't understand some Americans.

Retard. I'm probably smarter than you too, faggot,
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>>68056965
I feel so bad for Arnie endorsing him
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>>68061647
Barack Obama is undertaking a systematic effort to change this country, to make America more like the rest of the world... it is a systematic effort to change America.

Let's dispel once and for all with the ficiton that Barack Obama doesn't know what he is doing, he knows exactly what he is doing.
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>>68059165
The Big Short came out last year and he just brought it up for how politically relevant it is to his beliefs. That's pretty pleb.

Cruz with the Princess Bride, Kasich with the School of Rock, and Hillary with Out of Africa are the only genuine choices that they picked, and have actually watched and truly liked. All the other picks / choices on there are just pondering to people by name-dropping critically-acclaimed old films that everyone connotes as being a 'classic' to seem like they have a taste.
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>>68062224
I just want to know where you're getting any of that 2bh

>>68062247
roboto pls go

He's right though
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>>68062013
>make some points
>no answers, just fuck off you dumb fucking faggot
Classic.
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>>68061400
>the list goes on XDXDXDXDXDXDX UPGOATED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>the list does not actually go on
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>>68062351
What are you even trying to say faggot, you'll have to be a little more clear because it seems like you're tripping over yourself trying to say something that is a little out of touch with reality
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>>68057618
there is no pleasing you is therE?
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>>68062393
It does though.
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By the way Saddam Hussein listed the Old Man and the Sea and the Godfather as his favorite films
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>>68062506
Supposedly, Kim Jong-Il and seen Space Jam more than 100 times in his lifetime.
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>>68057060
Literally Larry David
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>>68057151
>Goodfellas
>The Godfather
Why am I not surprised? Runs a campaign like a Mafia Don, loves Mafia movies. Oh, and Citizen Kane is a perfect representation of him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFT083GhycM
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>>68062453
You realize that is one of the things you can't say on this website, right?
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>>68063505
But I just did?
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>>68057151
Patrician gentleman
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>>68057151

confirmed kinofile
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>>68061417
This. Kasich is a fucking liar.
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>>68061647
Weak, limp-wristed, faculty lounge, leftist faggot.
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>>68057151
We can either vote for a pleb who is scared of Fargo, or the patrician. We know what we must do.
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>>68057151
>tfw will never go quoting the Billy Batts scene with Trump at a rally
feels bad man
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>>68060202
>The Wire
>forbids his children from watching Kardashian degeneracy

Fuck, if only Obama were white, I'd love him
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>>68057705
Wrong, you're an idiot

>>68057618
Yas
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>>68064750
I feel sorry for you
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>>68061287
>>68061342

If you fucking retards spent anytime away from 4chan or your computer, you'd know he's planning on staying in D.C. for a few years while his daughter finishes high school. But I guess it's easier to take literal Kremlin propaganda at face value.
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>>68062013

>MUH EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE

Bush did far worse and conservatives applauded him for "Defending our country". . He's doing what he can thanks to the stonewall republicans who try to stop him for doing anything so gullible bumpkins like you blame Obama.

>more to aggravate race relations

Naw, I'd say the blame for that falls on idiot cops who shoot first and ask questions later and the retard tea partiers who started up the "Birther" movement which I guarantee wouldn't have happened had Obama been born with his mother's skin tone.

And also

>MUH AMERICAN EXCEPTIONALISM
>MUH MYTHICAL CITY ON A HILL

Get fucked, neocon. The delusion that we're automatically better than every other country on earth based on what the founding fathers wrote is a load of bunk.
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>>68062233
>nore it if you like, but it doesn't change the fact that those are the very reasons why the Americans who you are referring to probably hate Obama. The fact that you don't take that seriously is reflective of the fact that

yup real mad
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>>68061647
He's a black democrat. That's simply it.
most americans are neutral about obama. Its the southern people that have a hate boner for him because they have yet to learn that obama doesnt have power over states. If the alabama governor fucks up that state they will blame obama because right wingers are huge fucking retards
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>>68060202
III is pleb filter
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>>68065832


>it's another reddit episode
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>>68058883

Top is patrician, bottom is pleb.

1) Donald Trump
2) Hillary Clinton
3) Ted Cruz
4) Bernie Sanders
5) John Kasich
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>>68069009
This
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>>68065832
Are you literally a reddit bern victim

You sound exactly like one

>>68065674
Yeah none of what you said necessarily follows from your premise. Your retarded, and grasping at anything you can do devalue the people that are smarter than you are and hold better opinions and beliefs. Probably because you know deep down that you are literal trash.
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>>68059623
/tv/ is literally the worst board and is only good for shitposting because the entirety of the native population turned to shit. It's no longer a home board to any decent poster, every single one, EVERY single /tv/ native, is a mongoloid.
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>>68062393
Nice nitpicking. Do you have any real counter argument?
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