Death Star I 120 KM Length, Width and Height
Death Star II 160 KM Length, Width and Height
so how come it took 20 years to build the first one but the second was operational after 2 years? possibly less?
let's have a look at the opening crawl of RotJ
>Luke Skywalker has returned to
his home planet of Tatooine in
an attempt to rescue his
friend Han Solo from the
clutches of the vile gangster
Jabba the Hutt.
Little does Luke know that the
GALACTIC EMPIRE has secretly
begun construction on a new
armored space station even
more powerful than the first
dreaded Death Star.
BEGUN CONSTRUCTION ?
>>68031181
They doubled their efforts.
Because they had done it before, they got the person who helped make the first and gave him more resources to get it done faster.
However as we see at the start of Episode VI, things had slowed down due to the war.
>>68031181
Because Lucas forgot to watch his own movies when he wrote the prequels literally as they were filming
>>68031181
the second one was probably already being built long before ROTJ
because farty fart fart fart thread
>they redoubled their efforts
>>68031267
good job I posted the opening "crawl"
>>68031181
Prequels are completely retarded.
Senate operated during those 20 years and they were fine with fucking Death Star project? No way it was hidden for 20 years.
>>68031181
>why is it easier and faster to build a 2nd of something after the research and design is done? hurr durr.
>>68031181
Because they had more than one under Construction.....
>>68031261
THIS
>>68031248
>>68031319
also...
Actually this is a good unintended consequence of bad writing.
The first prototype of any product takes an order of magnitude longer to produce than a replica of the original.
From Model-T's to iPhone's to Death Stars.
>>68031181
It's year vs generation again.
Lucas is an autistic hack that forgot what he made 30 years earlier.
Maybe in the original manufacturing stage they produced enough parts for a few Death Stars, so they when it came time to build another one they had all these bits lying around
>>68031386
>equating engineering small moons to a car and phone
>>68031386
Death Star II was not a replica. It was 50% larger.
>my movie about space-wizards isn't realistic.
>>68031430
Interesting to see how the fanboys square it.
>>68031181
First one had the laser disc iinstalled last.
Second one was built as quickly as possible with the laser finished first.
>>68031248
>>68031256
>>68031319
>>68031361
This
>>68031261
>>68031341
>>68031430
Irrelevant
>>68031379
>>68031456
Not Canon
>>68031267
Less than that, about 33% larger.
>>68031341
>Senate operated during those 20 years and they were fine with fucking Death Star project? No way it was hidden for 20 years.
Imperial Senate had no say in anything, it's an empire m8.
>>68031561
>irrelevant
Prequel babby desperate to inject logic into a shitfest because of nostalgia
>>68031454
Not him, but you've obviously never designed and built anything before. 2 years is a stretch, but it does take significantly less time if the logistics is already in place, and they don't make the mistakes they very well could have made building a prototype.
>>68031454
>engineering small moons are fictitious, so speculation is in order.
>>68031456
This actually has to do with how humans do things or intelligent aliens (assuming they exist)
When one approaches a task the first time, your efficiency level is quite low. The reason being you're learning to do it for the first time.
The following times you do the same thing, you not only do it faster but you start optimizing.
This is part of the observations of division of labor (Adam Smith) and what was also observed on production lines like Henry Ford's assembly and where engineering ergonomics was born.
And so on and so forth.
>>68031561
Irrevelant eh...
its called a contingency plan. your feeble weak mind might not be able to understand that...
>>68031616
How'd you jump to that conclusion?
>>68031610
The Senate was still running right up and into A Episode IV...
![latest[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/qaAeI1t.jpg "latest[1].png")
>>68031181
>160km
nonsense number written into some irrelevant book decades after the film was made and the prop designer/model maker made the death star 2 to be 900km in diameter
>but the executor collision shot was a goof
yes but in the other direction, if the death star 2 was 900km there would still be curvature in the collision shot, there is none, so by that shot the death star 2 is actually like 9000km across, which it obviously isnt
but if you believe its 160, tell me how the death star 1 trench is only large enough for 3 xwings side by side, but the death star 2's trench has room for like 10 landing bays in a column
>>68031561
Maybe you should go read up about a man named Sheev....
Contingency is his game
>>68031181
Because the first time they built it they probably had to tweet the plans and encountered problems at every hurdle.
The second time they already knew all that so progress went much faster.
Plus they explicitly say the second one was build in secret, it was probably already n progress during a new hope
>>68031662
>your feeble weak mind might not be able to understand that
>>68031694
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Imperial_Senate
>By its fourteenth year of existence, the new Senate had started growing weaker as the Emperor's planetary governors assumed more responsibility over their territories. However, the Emperor preserved the Senate in order to make the Empire's member worlds believe that they still had a part to play in government. Secretly, he planned to disband the Senate from the start but he needed it to preserve order until the Death Star was completed.
the probably got rid of union laborers
20 years to build the first Death Star because of bureaucratic red tape everywhere. Original projections were probably 2 years max.
Second death star they stopped giving a fuck and just built it with the wealth they had, ignoring every empire politician in the galaxy.
>>68031664
I felt like it. Prequelfags annoyed me earlier
>>68031705
You are mistaking the landing bays for the trench
>>68031809
>the probably got rid of union laborers
How long did it take to make death star snow planet?
>>68031916
damn Sheev is savage
>>68031983
JJ pulled that straight from his ass
>>68031181
Haven't watched the third movie, but as I understand it, they also destroyed the third death star by shooting at its weak points.
This franchise has become a parody of itself.
>>68032038
And by third movie, I mean the new movie.
>>68031916
I'm still buttmad that Geonosians got wiped out.
>>68032064
>And by third movie, I mean the new movie.
What
>>68031844
the man who made the prop for the death star 2 and did the model work, literally said himself that it was intended as 900km across
since film canon is supposed to trump all else, i have no idea why wookiepedia is now recognizing "Death Star Owner's Technical Manual" written by who the fuck cares 30 years after the film, as the final say on its size
>>68031181
>what is engineering and economical growth
>>68032089
>>68032064
Even if you disregard the prequels that doesn't make sense
>>68032142
>wookiepedia is now recognizing "Death Star Owner's Technical Manual"
It doesn't though. The source of the size is Ultimate Star Wars
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ultimate_Star_Wars
>>68032142
I would ask why that whoever the fuck cares didn't use the intended diameter in the book in first place.
>>68032089
>>68032181
I was correcting a mistake. I wrote third movie, because I was thinking of the third death star when I was writing that sentence. I meant the new movie.
>>68032142
You're reading the Legends article m8.
That shit's non-canon.
That's why your info is 30 years old.
>>68032142
Fuck knows mate, I agree with you on all points
The left image is what we got, even with all the fucking "revisions"
The image right is what we should have got.
>>68031181
retarded writing. is supposed to be a one-of-its-kind, state-of-the-art, engineeing achievent worthy of the biggest empire in the galaxy or some shit.
this kind of stuff takes decades in our pre civilized society, and since some things can't possibly scale, a death star construction time will be in the order of centuries.
>>68032227
>>68032291
whichever book who the fuck cares, ultimate star wars is even newer
nothing in ROTJ indicates it to be anything remotely close to only 160km
>>68031181
because budgetary constraints during the construction of the first death star
>>68031181
Death Stars are meant to be built quickly. The Empires plan was always to build the Death Star at the site and destroy the offending planet, leaving the Space Station in place as an invincible fortress to control the surrounding planets. The reason the first one took so long is because they were developing ways to build the station quickly.
The one in Jedi was a dry-run using recovered and improved technology to train up a whole new staff. It was then used as a way to lure the Rebels into an all out attack. Once fully trained, it would have taken an Imperial building crew as little as 3 hours to construct a fully operational Death Star.
>>68032603
>We need three years to build the new death star!
>You have 3 minutes and 22 seconds
>>68031181
when you put it like that, it does kind of make the movies seem a little be unrealistic
>>68031844
>building something this big in 2 years
yeah ok
>>68031181
First Death Star probably went through a lot of changes and alterations and test while the 2nd one they knew what worked
Hey!
What's going on in this thread?
did nobody mention me?
I'm a 100 times bigger that those 2 explosion magnets known as Death Tards
>>68032912
To be fair the base was only built on like 10% of the planets surface
They hired non union workers
>>68032932
>10% of the planets surface
capable of sucking up entire suns.
>engineered by JJ
>>68033488
>planet collapses
>sun is left behind
>same size as planet
that sun is now literally more dense than neutronium
>>68033636
>more dense than neutronium
so was the painful plot
>>68033488
>suck in entire sun into tiny containment area
>planet becomes black hole
>story over
>>68032078
I'm not, they were complete fucking assholes in Republic Commando.
>>68032912
speaking of starkiller base - It triggered me that nobody in episode 7 mentioned that star-killer base was no bigger than the death star two
>>68031181
Lucas explained it, it was due to union disputes.
>>68031181
>hard to make the first one because we've never done it before
>easy to make the second one since we've done it before
Also, the 2nd one wasn't even finished.
