Finally, people are waking up to the reality that Christians across this great nation are being persecuted daily.
>>68000335
They probably legitimately will be soon. The cuckold governor of Georgia just sold religious freedom for some sweet Disney money.
I'm an atheist and not American and I think Christians are being persecuted in America.
See: kids being told to take off cross necklaces in school, imagine if they were muslim children and told they can't pray, what do you think the reaction would be like?
You can find diversity even here
One thing I hate more than I hate my people is the Christians among our people. Asian Christians are truly pathetic
>b-but you dirty Christians persecute Muslims since 9/11
yeah, we didn't like it when they killed and continue to kill a bunch of people in the name of Allah, but name the last time a radical group of Christians did anything close to it since the crusades? Also we don't go to the middle east and demand they change to Christianity, like they do to non-Muslim places
Christianity was spread by the blood of (real) martyrs, a pity to watch them behaving as petty as SJWs.
>>68000433
Things that didn't happen: the post.
If you are a White Christian living in America/Burger, you have more rights than 99% of the world. I hate this goddamn persecution complex some of them have.
>>68000730
>starving african babies argument
>>68000433
>I'm an atheist and not American
2/10 see me after class
>>68000433
>Christians told to take off necklaces in school
Low tier bait.
>>68000335
Honestly, if people want to watch a Christian movie, they should go see BvS. Personally I think it did a great job, as did Man of Steel, of introducing Chritian themes into mainstream popular culture, it is surprising something like that would come out of a big studio, when Hollywood is usually quite left.
>>68000543
>B-but muh abortion clinic bombings, t-truly representative of t-true Christians
>Another poor forgetable Protestant flick
>Not superior Roman Catholic Kinography
Christians should be persecuted
As well as every other religious group
>>68000411
>stop being intolerant of my intolerance
this is why no one takes the south seriously. you're not only ignorant and stubborn, but you're subsidized by more successful blue states because you're all broke ass niggas.
>>68001951
underage please
>>68000543
>Christians did anything close to it since the crusades
It's a melancholy fact that Christians have spilled far more blood of their brothers than the zeal of infidels ever has. The history of Christendom is filled with innumerable examples of intra-faith conflicts.
>>68001938
Post was so edgy I almost cut myself.
>>68001951
That is why people from all those blue states are leaving to places like Texas because they're so rich I bet they just need more money :^) or because they're losing jobs
>>68001864
seriously this
Protestants to Christianity is like SJWs to Liberalism, they're the fucktards that make the entire group look bad by association
>>68001972
>>68002069
>>68002069
>Living in Texas
>Hurrrr zoning laws are evil
>Whoops, that fertilizer plant next to that retirement home blew up and killed grandma.
>This is the price of freedom
>>68002142
>the #1 state that gets more than it gives is democratic
try again
>>68002142
>Number 1 is a democratic and half of those aren't even in the south(Idaho, Utah, etc.)
Also that had nothing to do with what I even said, but, uh thanks for the useless statistic :^)
>>68002201
>Living in California
>Hurrr zoning laws are good
>Wait, that old mom and pop want to open up a small walking distance grocery store where you can get fresh fruits and vegetables, and is designed to serve the neighborhood?
>RAAAAAAAAAAAPE
>>68000766
He's not wrong you know
Stop arguing in memes
>>68002312
>You have to be a feminist to think republicans are stupid
/tv/ everybody
>living in American location
>Current Year
>green text political opinions
>memes
wew lads :^)
>>68002346
>You have to be a republican to think feminists are stupid
everybody, /tv/
I remember the message of the first one was that all atheists secretly know God exists and don't believe because they're angry that their lives suck, and some liberal atheist homosexual ACLU lawyer professor literally forced students to sign a contract saying they were atheist.
What's the boogeyman in 2 going to be?
>claim that Christians are oppressors
>seize the property of a Christian family for not baking a gay cake
This is the world that tippers have created.
>>68000934
>No TRUE Scotsman!
>>68002201
>Living in California
>Hurr H1b is good
>Whoops guess I'm out of a job now because someone in a third world can do it
This is the price of Freedom
>>68002004
lol no it's not. Post evidence you fucking Mudslime. More Christian lives were lost in wars with Islam than were ever lost in interfighting.
>>68002436
something about how the muslim president of the united states is on the cusp to make atheism the state religion and its up to melissa joan hart to show him whats what
>>68002142
I always like how these breakdowns are by state. Not by city, fuck no. Certainly not by racial demographic, that'd prove the exact opposite! But by the state.
>look at all these poor southern states that vote Republican!
>that must be the fault of Republicans
>NOTHING but Republicans exist in high number in those states...ahem
>>68000335
/pol/ seriously can't believe that real life is any like these movies. the first one was literally the atheist professor copypasta. just exaggerated melodrama.
>>68002487
Sorry Texas, I thought you guys didn't like BIG GOVMENT IN MUH BUSINESS
>>68002482
Okay, I'll admit, those fags who called the cops over a fucking fag cake were dipshits
>>68002562
>>68002550
>that'd prove the exact opposite!
It wouldn't disprove the fact that republican states leech more, but it would definitely prove the fact that niggers leech more
>>68002216
That's some radical damage control anon.
>>68002599
>Okay, I'll admit, those fags who called the cops over a fucking fag cake were dipshits
No, that was actually a good thing. Now I know if I want to discriminate against some faggots I just need to say it was because they were ugly, they smelled like shit, and their eyes were too far apart.
You're going to legislate morality? Oh yes, please. Let's see how that works from here on out.
>>68002889
You realize I was saying that Kim Davis should not have been arrested
>>68002312
>live in Soviet Massachusetts
>state achieved unemployment rate below 6% in 2010, has been at full employment since 2011
>true socialist paradise has been achieved
>our taxes aren't even really that high
>education so good that if we were a seperate country, we'd be 13th in the world
Republishit states can't even touch us.
>>68002069
commiefornia really needs to leave texas. Eventually they will spill out of Austin
>>68002142
>>68002828
>#1 New Mexico
>Alaska, North Dakota, South Dakota
>THIS IS WHY NO ONE TAKES THE SOUTH SERIOUSLY
>4 out of 5 of the top 10 states are northern
Nice graph, you brain-dead faggot.
>>68002959
Kim Davis should have quit if she felt her religion was in conflict with her job. You can't just selectively ignore the law when you personally don't believe in it.
>>68002959
>Okay, I'll admit, those fags who called the cops over a fucking fag cake were dipshits
Why in the fuck would you even think my post was about Kim Davis?
>>68000335
No, they are. I absolutely hate liberals who say otherwise.
Christians are made out to be fucking punching bags because they're the silent majority. They won't behead you like a muslim, or so you like a fucking kike, and as such sniveling liberal shits love to punch down wherever they can. They do it constantly now.
>>68000934
Yeah, and 9/11 wasn't radical Islam. 2/10, made me reply
>>68003357
How assblasted are you right now? I can't recall any recent Christian persecution at all.
>>68003357
the internet isn't the real world and criticism isn't persecution
>>68003171
> You can't just selectively ignore the law when you personally don't believe in it.
Suck a cock, fascist
>>68003429
Christian bakeries being forced to close over not baking gay cakes, despite the fact jewish and muslim bakeries do the same.
There's nothing major YET, but you see small stories all the fucking time.
Stop acting naive, faggot.
>>68003469
I'm not sure if exposing a questionably legal mass surveillance program is equal to refusing to sign marriage licenses because of the gays.
>>68002980
COMRADE
>>68003494
Give me a fucking break. I want to see an example of these Jewish and Muslim bakeries that refused to serve gays and got away with it. And banning discrimination against gays isn't persecution of Jews, Muslims, Christians or anybody else. I guess if you have a very broad view of persecution, you might even say that anti-segregation laws persecute racists, but I don't.
>>68003494
>Christian bakeries being forced to close over not baking gay cakes
when did this happen
>>68003517
He's still a fugitive, right? What he did was illegal according to the espionage act.
>>68003429
>I can't recall any recent Christian persecution at all.
Then you are dumb or choosingly ignorant.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/27/seventh-grader-reports-teacher-instructed-class-god-myth/
>>68003448
>the internet isn't the real world
You're right, the internet is the "new world" in a sense though. The only real difference is that it was provided to the "undesirables" by us to keep them "occupied" while we go on our merry business in the "real world" (as you put it). While you're all territoriality squabbling over ones and zeros it's business as usual for for us.
>>68003631
>little girl lies to fire teacher who gave her a B instead of an A
>>68003571
>>68003579
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgWIhYAtan4
>And banning discrimination against gays isn't persecution
Business owners have the right to deny their business based on their religious beliefs. If they don't serve fags, then another bakery get the fag business.
>>68003631
>“Another child had asked the teacher if we could try to put what we believe on the paper, and she [the teacher] said you can if you want to get it wrong.”
based
>>68003676
There's pictures of the assignments and multiple sources. I hope you're baiting.
>>68003631
>breitbart
>>68003631
Got some bad news for ya, senpai:
http://www.snopes.com/2015/10/28/katy-texas-god-assignment-controversy/
But I'm sure that individual teachers, do every once in a while push a religious viewpoint on students. More often than not, I suspect that that viewpoint is Christian. Atheist or Christian, however, I think that either version should be punished (and it usually is).
>>68003631
>those comments
DescartesWithFrenchWig.jpg
>>68003701
>taking issue with a source despite video evidence and ciatations
Typical liberal.
If you take issue with the source, you could go elsewhere, but you'd just find the same story.
>>68003722
You're joking right?
>Multiple testimonies and photo evidence are less important than the school's PR and damage control.
>>68002507
What a curious world.
>>68003679
Uh, it's not as if there's a different standard for Christians rather than Muslims. The only reason the Muslims get away with it is because they don't get sued. That's not Christian persecution, that's just nobody bothering to bring suit.
>>68003735
But I found this: http://www.snopes.com/2015/10/28/katy-texas-god-assignment-controversy/
It's clearly not the same story at all. Hell, apparently the teacher is Christian herself.
>>68003832
Do you not see the fault in your post?
>Christians get sued for it
>Muslims don't
That's persecution. The fag's sue the christians because they're christian. Your double-think is absurd.
>>68003775
I'll probably trust the school and a Christian teacher over some random kid and their pissed off parents.
>>68003722
>But I'm sure that individual teachers, do every once in a while push a religious viewpoint on students. More often than not, I suspect that that viewpoint is Christian.
>dat literal prejudice
>prejudice
>[prej-uh-dis]
>1.an unfavorable opinion or feeling formed beforehand or without knowledge, thought, or reason.
>2.any preconceived opinion or feeling, either favorable or unfavorable.
>3.unreasonable feelings, opinions, or attitudes, especially of a hostile nature, regarding an ethnic, racial, social, or religious group.
>>68003853
As I said with the other post. Why does the school PR matter more to you than the testimonies and photo evidence?
>Apparently Christian
Yeah, she would say that after being outed as a radical child-indoctrinating atheist in a christian town, wouldn't she?
>>68003855
Holy shit, have you ever considered that gays just don't go to Muslim bakeries, and thus don't get refused service there? Why didn't your YouTube fucker sue the Muslims there? I would suspect most people just don't care enough to sue, because it's a huge pain in the ass. How many Christian bakers even got sued? Like one? Two?
>>68003867
It was multiple kids and multiple pissed of parents. Are you baiting?
>>68003906
atheists aren't the ones who indoctrinate children lol
Why do liberals sympathize with Islam but bash Christianity?
>>68003894
Persecution isn't quite the same as prejudice. Individual instances of persecution clearly happen, but it's equally clear that our society doesn't tolerate it regardless of whether it comes from Christians or Atheists.
>>68003934
Well you see anon, it's because Christians are white and therefore oppress Muslims, who are brown.
>>68003906
But the photo evidence proves that the assignment had nothing to do with renouncing one's faith. The word "myth" is never even alluded to.
>>68003952
but that's racist..!
Daily reminder that it's 2016 and atheists still have no answer to this
>>68003912
Why would the gays go to christian bakeries and not Muslim bakeries? Non-secular bakeries exist and they only go to these christian bakeries to start a big media circus that ends in them getting attention and free shit, with the christian bakery eventually closing.
>How many niggers even got lynched? Like one? Two?
The numbers don't matter, it's the principle of the matter and the fact that it was allowed to happen.
>>68000335
Actual photograph of OP as he made this thread.
>>68003978
I'M CALLING THE ACLU RIGHT NOW
ENJOY PRISON, SHITLORD
>>68003938
>but it's equally clear that our society doesn't tolerate it regardless of whether it comes from
>dat literal delusion
delusion
[dih-loo-zhuh n]
>1.an act or instance of deluding.
>2.the state of being deluded.
>3.a false belief or opinion:
delusions of grandeur.
>4.Psychiatry. a fixed false belief that is resistant to reason or confrontation with actual fact: a paranoid delusion.
>>68003978
It's called Hitchens' razor
![Billboard[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/3HcoVm2.jpg "Billboard[1].jpg")
>>68003930
>atheists aren't the ones who indoctrinate children lol
...uh huh
>>68004005
You should stop using the plural when it happened once. You seriously think that one gay couple suing one Christian bakery is evidence of some sort of anti-Christian bias? Maybe it was this one gay couple in the entire world that cares enough to sue. In your scenario, they should have gone to a Muslim bakery afterwards and sued them? Also, how can you tell whether a bakery is Christian or not before going there? I sure as fuck can't.
>>68004063
That's not indictrination any more than teaching kids math is indoctrination
>>68004026
>having this much of a victim complex
>>68002216
>>68002299
>>68002550
>>68003093
Yeah, but nothing changes the fact that all but a few red states are in the top spending half, and the bottom 16 are all blue.
Cry all you want about #1 being blue. In statistics we call that an outlier. All the numbers really match up to show that overall though the red states blow waaaay more of your tax dollars.
Enjoy your cognitive dissonance though! Seems like that's the only thing keeping you guys going anyhow :)
>>68002321
>Hey these people live in America that means they aren't being persecuted by other people
you're a meme
>>68004081
>You should stop using the plural when it happened once.
It's happened more than once. This is just a single example of christian persecution. He asked for an example,, by providing even one, he's shown to be wrong.
>You seriously think that one gay couple suing one Christian bakery is evidence of some sort of anti-Christian bias?
Yes.
>Maybe it was this one gay couple in the entire world that cares enough to sue.
What? This has also happened multiple times.
>In your scenario, they should have gone to a Muslim bakery afterwards and sued them?
Why do liberals think like this. No. The muslim bakeries just serve to juxtapose with the christian ones and shows the liberal double-think. If it's bad for christians, why is it okay for muslims? Why? Because the fags know they can get away with doing it to christians, but not muslims.
>Also, how can you tell whether a bakery is Christian or not before going there?
You can, you know, just ask, or go to an openly gay bakery instead.
>>68002436
>>68002507
>>68003813
Well to be fair, the president IS an atheist, that DOES care more about muslims than regular Americans, because he grew up with them.
>>68003934
>Why do liberals sympathize with Islam but bash Christianity?
This is a fairly new myth.
Before 9/11 the liberals went on and on and on about the plight of women in Muslim countries. I volunteered for UNICEF back in the 90s and people were constantly trying to raise awareness about female genital mutilation in Africa, the killing of female babies in India and china, and shit like that. Muslim abuse of women was a major thing, and honor killings in western countries was raising alarm bells about the dangers of radical (traditional) islam.
Opinionated conservatives would often show up at fund raising events and lecture us on how we had no right to criticize these other cultures and stick our noses where they don't belong. "Stick to feeding the children and stop trying to educate girls in those other countries". This was a very common complaint.
Liberals hated muslims, especially the saudis. They hated how rape needed 4 male witnesses, and how women were forbidden to even drive a car in Suadi Arabia. Everything about the religion pissed them off.
After 9/11 the anti-muslim talking points were hijacked almost overnight by American conservatives. The same people who told us to ignore muslims were now using our own pamphlets and short documentaries as propoganda as America went to war.
To be clear I am more of a centrist, and I was doing the unicef thing because of the 80/20 male female ratio among volunteers. it was an easy way to get laid back in college. I can speak from experience that they were very vocal of Islam.
>>68004081
Yeah the other guy is right you know.
>>68004152
The tax dollars are because of minority populations. You also can't deny that liberal cities, like Detroit, are the worst off.
>>68004174
You are deluded. Please show me more than one instance of a lawsuit.
>>68004110
I'm actually female and Puerto Rican, but you'd have to be blind to not see there's an obvious agenda at work against whites, Christians, and men in the US.
>>68004152
>Red
>Blue
>68001951
>THIS IS WHY NO ONE TAKES THE SOUTH SERIOUSLY
Tippity top cake. You'd love to move those goalposts now that you've thoroughly embarrassed yourself, wouldn't you?
>>68003171
>You can't just selectively ignore the law when you personally don't believe in it.
YES I CAN I'M A FREE CITIZEN WE DO NOT HAVE ACONTRACT PLEASE CALL YOU SUPERVI-bzzzzzzz AAGAGAGAGAH I DO NOT CONSENT I DO NOT CONSENT I DO NOT CONSENT
>>68004226
Really? What kind of minority populations and where from? So more minorities live in red states? Then why would they vote GOP when the GOP just wants to fuck them or kick them out?
Not all of those red states have particularly higher rates of minorities or (illegal) immigrants.
>>68004241
http://aclu-co.org/court-rules-bakery-illegally-discriminated-against-gay-couple/
http://www.ijreview.com/2015/04/306447-2-tough-weekend-controversial-christian-bakery-receives-135000-fine-gofundme-account-canceled/
There's at least two separate instances. There's a precedent. The fags are just gonna keep going. Apparently you're the deluded one.
>>68004310
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/07/12/the-politics-and-demographics-of-food-stamp-recipients/
>>68003924
>he continues to insiste that there is evidence
>the linked article provides no sources beyond the testimonial of some assblasted child and her even more bootyblasted parents
>>68002142
>Really? What kind of minority populations and where from?
Niggers and blacks
>So more minorities live in red states?
In some cases
>Then why would they vote GOP when the GOP just wants to fuck them or kick them out?
Nothing in this point s true, you most be really retarded meme regurgitating liberal.
>Not all of those red states have particularly higher rates of minorities or (illegal) immigrants.
They literally all do.
>New Mexico
Injuns and mexicans
>Mississippi
Niggers
>Alaska
Snow-injuns
>Louisiana
Niggers
>West Virginia
Niggers and one of the few places with stupidly poor whites
>North Dakota
stupidly poor whites
>Alabama
Again, this might be hard for a leftist to understand, but policy isn't the only determinant of economics. Some of these states are just fucked by things policy can't fix (North Dakota and Alaska for example), and others are only in the state their in because certain population centers are out of control.
>>68004320
>no comment
lol
>>68004320
kek civil servants who refuse to marry gays are fired in my country. Serves them right.
So when does this get a crossover with Bibleman and Left Behind to create the Testifiers, which will really kick off the Evangelical Cinematic Universe?
>>68004411
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/28/texas-public-school-apologizes-pushing-atheism-children-critical-thinking-exercise/
This article gives the names of another parent-student couple. Just go looking and you'll see more, even outside of breitbart. You're being childish.
>>68003978
What requires a bigger leap of faith?
>there is an all powerful, all knowing being which takes active interests in the affairs of one species on one planet in a tiny part of the known universe
Or
>Sentient life's just a happy accident, don't read anything into it, enjoy it while you can.
>>68004501
>Evangelical Cinematic Universe
that's not even such a bad idea. They could make prequels in biblical times, all reflecting their modern morality.
Moses: I'll lead these people to Israel! It will be the land of the brave and the home of the free!
>>68004518
If life is just an accident, why don't you just kill yourself?
Checkmate, atheist!
>>68004518
the one with which you grow up.
>>68004490
What, they just don't go and find another job after that?
And the queers get a good face full of hot hate before they're fired, reinforcing the idea that they're degeneracy is despised by the majority?
Sounds like a good deal to me.
>>68000335
visible panty line
>>68004518
>>there is an all powerful, all knowing being which takes active interests in the affairs of one species on one planet in a tiny part of the known universe
Stop Strawmanning.
What requires a bigger leap of faith?
>Some sort of entity to created everything, including nature's intricacies
Or
>There was nothing then it became everything, including nature's intricacies
>>68000335
Oh please, Christians in america don't know what persecution is. try being a Coptic Christian in Egypt
>>68004597
>And the queers get a good face full of hot hate before they're fired, reinforcing the idea that they're degeneracy is despised by the majority?
Not in the Netherlands bro. Only muslims and a small part of christians feel that way here.
If anything, most people here agree with firing people who don't want to do their jobs.
>>68004625
>Persecution isn't persecution because other people suffer worse persecution
No.
As a white christian I am so sorry
So, terribly sorry
>>68004616
>Stop Strawmanning.
>>68004661
dude, I grew up christian in western european country. I went to a christian school and even there I was laughed at as a kid because I had to go to church on sunday.
American christians are a majority and they're constantly whining because they can't use statefunds meant for everybody for the expression of their private believes. They're worse than Black Lives Matter in that they have even less reason to complain.Christian have a pretty good deal in the US if you ask me.
>>68004661
They aren't "persecuted" though. They are made fun of but honestly that's not the problem, it's that somehow it's ok yet making fun of Judaism or Islam isn't.
You sound as bad as SJW saying women are being oppressed in the western world.
>>68004651
>Only muslims and a small part of christians feel that way here
>most people here
I hate to tell you this, but if you guys have had issues with queers getting refused in public like this to the point where it's on the news then you have a silent majority boiling quietly. You don't know what the fucks going on at all.
>>68004719
>>68004721
>hostility and ill-treatment, especially because of race or political or religious beliefs.
>persistent annoyance or harassment.
Christians suffer both of these in America. Sorry.
300 years ago a girl in bergen was burned alive on orders from the clergy after witnesses claimed she had been to a witch meeting, talked to a demon, used magic to kill several infants and for killing a pear tree
another girl was killed after some men died in a storm and they blamed her for summoning the storm
christians better pray to their imaginary sky daddy that we don't prosecute them. they deserve to hang every one of them
>>68004518
>when religious people sub-consciously accept the idea that taking things on the basis of "faith" alone is a poor way of forming a worldview
My fedora is tingling
>>68004616
>>There was nothing then it became everything
Which theory is this?
Time began when the singularity began to expand. There was no "before the big bang" because time did not exist yet. Time is linked to gravity.
Asking what came before the singularity is the same is asking what came before god. This is no "before" god as time did not exist before creation occurred.
"nothing existed and then it exploded" is just an internet meme, not an actual creation theory.
>>68004789
But none of the people from 300 years ago are actually around anymore to be hanged.
>the implication that the separation of church and state is a bad thing
My fuckin jimmies
>>68004763
No they don't, maybe a little annoyance, but certainly not persistence, nor hostility or ill treatment on a large scale.
South Park having Jesus crap on a flag isn't "persecution", get a grip
>>68004518
> Sentient life's just a happy accident, don't read anything into it, enjoy it while you can.
Sentient life did emerge on Earth due to a happy accident it was a result of eumetazoa evolving nerve cells. Nervous systems evolved since then culminating in the human brain. Most planets don't have a happy accident where sentience emerges though there are probably others that do. Yes, we should enjoy what we have well we still can. Our sentience is a result of our functioning nervous system and when it goes out there is nothing.
>>68003978
you can't disprove that i can fly
>>68004845
>South Park having Jesus crap on a flag isn't "persecution", get a grip
Wasn't that making fun of Muslims though?
>>68004866
You can't prove you're not in the Matrix, therefore Jesus. Checkmate, atheist!
>>68004755
lol, you underestimate how gays are cuddled in my country mate. If a gay is refused in a restaurant or shop it would be an incredible outrage. I can't remember anything like that ever happening though. I think that says something in itself.
>>68004763
>Christians suffer both of these in America. Sorry.
No need to be sorry anon, I'm curious what ill treatment christians face according to you?
And not being able to discriminate people because of your religion isn't ill treatment.
>>68003961
Holy shit, this. My parents live in that school district, it's filled with batshit insane parents.
The assignment was never meant to make kids renounce god. There were a bunch of claims and children had to identify which were "facts," which were "commonly held beliefs", and which were "opinions."
The kid wanted to say God was a fact, but that's a fucking incorrect answer. The existence of God isn't a fact, but apparently the kid's parents were too stupid to know the definition of a fact.
>>68004927
>The existence of God isn't a fact
Oh-em-gee how could you say that? All religious convictions are FACT and should be treated as such even if they contradict one another.
>>68003978
>>68004969
>>68004992
>>68005017
Hitler was an atheist so there!
>>68005053
oh shi-
>>68005053
>"I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.."
My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders.
>"There may have been a time when even parties founded on the ecclesiastical basis were a necessity. At that time Liberalism was opposed to the Church, while Marxism was anti-religious. But that time is past. National Socialism neither opposes the Church nor is it anti-religious, but on the contrary, it stands on the ground of a real Christianity.
He was against the church, as are most dictators, simply because dictators don't like to share power. He wanted a secular state and he wanted to drive out the powerful catholic church that had opposed him for years.
>>68000457
It's better than just being godless heathens that cook in gutter oil and have zero understanding of what it means to be a human and not a colony ant. Don't you think? At least when you're Christian and not white you are at least TRYING to be white.
>>68005184
H-Hitler was an atheist because he believed in Dawkinism! Checkmate!
>>68005184
nigger I can't even believe you took the time and effort to seriously answer that shitpost. The guy was just meming.
>>68004883
>And not being able to discriminate people because of your religion isn't ill treatment.
How is it not? If they want to run a christian bakery with christian morals why shouldn't they be allowed to? If you don't like the policies of a business you can shop somewhere else. Instead the government either forces them to make a cake that goes against their beliefs or shuts them down entirely. How is that not persecution?
>>68005238
I wish it was a meme or a troll but countless people on 4chan genuinely believe Hitler carried out his crimes in the name of atheism.
>>68005276
Not just 4chan.
>>68004616
>Some sort of entity to created everything
This entity just sort of always existed right? Based on no evidence whatsoever.
Are people ready for their next PureFlix fliick?
A 'Christian' 'film' about the Columbine shooting?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1Fzxbv1f6E
>>68005264
Because private businesses operate on the basis of secularism in the market.
If I could change the rules for how my business operates under anti-discrimination legislation then why couldn't I just say I think it's against my religion to pay taxes? Or against my religion to clean up my dog shit?
The judicial system has determined it isn't an undue burden on bigots to bake cakes for gay dudes, but it is an undue burden on gay citizens to have to face open discrimination.
>m-my bigotry should be legally protected
>>68005320
T-tips fedora. Feeling euphoric yet?
>>68005347
>not tipping ghidorah
>>68003978
> thinking you need to disprove disproving God
> thinking you need proof to have faith in God
> not understanding the basic idea of having faith
>>68005433
>implying faith is a virtue
>>68005276
you shouldn't believe everything /b/ says.
>>68005508
It's an actual belief in 'murrica. It's based on the fact that national socialist=socialist=communist=atheist=homosexual=muslim.
>>68005264
>How is that not persecution?
It's the carrying out of anti-discrimination laws.
If you have a shop you can not discriminate between costumers on the basis of their sexuality, because everyone should be treated equally.
You can be mad about it, but it works the other way around too. If a gay couple has a shop they wouldn't be able not to serve you on the basis of your religion.
>>68005322
>first person murdered
>dead body next to her while she still alive
nigguh what
>>68000457
Those in the movie are Asian American Protestants. Not the same as Christians in Asia
it really brings the issue into focus though. All the time the Liberals saying how what they are doing is about diversity while they are the one equating Christians with Wasp and ignoring the Asian Christians
>>68005474
George Michael said you gotta have faith
>>68005214
You must make your God really proud
>>68005474
It all depends what you puyt your faith in,
If you put it in a retarded idea of God like the kind that this film paints, that that's bad religion and bad faith. God is infinitely wise, even if we can't see it, not dumb as a brick.
It is dumbed down bad religion and bad filmmaking,
pic rather related
>>68005322
>where's your god now?
>I've always been drawn to hands
>cockteasing a retard
>released 420
this is a grade A meme movie.
I remember my mom read her book. 'Rachel said yes' or something.
>>68005569
Was this while he was fucking guys in the mens room?
>>68005601
But if evidence is meaningless, how do you decide what you put your faith into?
>>68005644
people base it on the community they're in, or they find something that fits their cultural believes.
>>68005824
But that's just stupid, if God is real you're encouraging people to put their faith in the wrong gods based on where they live and grow up in.
>>68005871
>durr durr people are stupid
I'm just explaining how people act in religious groups.
>>68005331
>>68005547
I'm not saying it's legal, just that it should be. I should be able to decide what products I make in my own business.
>>68006016
>I should be able to decide what products I make in my own business.
You can. You can't discriminate though. And others can't discriminate you.
>>68006090
B-but people should be allowed to break the law when they feel like it!
>>68006090
You can't. I think discrimination is a bad thing. I don't give a goddamn whether someone is gay. I just don't think it should be illegal. It infringes on the freedom of the business owner. Nobody should have the right to make somebody else work for them.
>>68005871
If God is real he makes preparation for all men so they all have their chance to make the right choice.
To say otherwise is to be racist
>>68006098
As long as they film it when they do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCozh_vbYdM
>>68006188
>You can't.
You said 'what products I make in my own business'. You can make the products you want.
>I think discrimination is a bad thing.
Why do you keep arguing in favor of it?
>It infringes on the freedom of the business owner.
yeah that's the thing with these kind of laws. The freedom of not being assaulted goes against my freedom of punching people in the face.
It just depends what society values more, the freedom of being treated equally, or the freedom of selecting costumer based on my own preconceptions.
>>68006378
>You can make the products you want.
If the only product I want to sell are cakes that uphold christian values and the government says I have to also make cakes that go against those values then I don't ultimately have a choice in what products I make.
>Why do you keep arguing in favor for it?
I'm not. I think it is a bad thing. There are plenty of things that I find morally deplorable but believe should be legal.
>The freedom of not being assaulted goes against my freedom of punching people in the face.
The initiator of force here is the gay couple and the state. They are coming into these peoples' lives and demanding they perform a service for them.
>>68006468
>If the only product I want to sell are cakes that uphold christian values and the government says I have to also make cakes that go against those values then I don't ultimately have a choice in what products I make.
You can make cakes with jesus on it.
Where did this idea come from that you would have to make cakes with gay couples on it? Nobody in this thread said that.
Only thing you can't do, is refuse service to people.
>I'm not. I think it is a bad thing. There are plenty of things that I find morally deplorable but believe should be legal.
Ok, sure.
>The initiator of force here is the gay couple and the state. They are coming into these peoples' lives and demanding they perform a service for them.
That's one view of it. You could also see it as gays defending their right to go shopping without being discriminated against.
Would you also defend this if a shop owner only served white people?
>>68000543
George W. Bush says God told him to invade Iraq and Afghanistan
>>68000335
I swear, you can see MJH's thong line in this poster.
>>68006728
So sinful of you to notice. You've committed adultery in your heart, pls accept Jebus.
>>68006662
>Nobody in this thread said that. Only thing you can't do, is refuse service to people.
Fair point. I'm not aware of the specific case and made a mistake. I still think if they want to run a christian business that only caters to customers that don't offend their values they should be allowed to.
>Would you also defend this if a shop owner only served white people?
I would call them jerks and not give them my business. I would actively tell people I know not to buy from there. I would still defend their ability to do it.
>>68005184
Hitler didn't personally give a shit about religion. He was just aware of how useful it is.
>>68005568
Pathetic token minorities.
>>68006848
Okay, I guess we just fundamentally disagree about what freedoms and rights to prioritise I guess.
Have a good day, anon.
>>68004018
Sorry, the ACLU office is currently closed, but use this image in the meantime for all your liberal justifications.
>>68006960
Fair enough. Thanks for the civil discussion.
You too.
>>68000433
Wait until TedCruz becomes the next President of Murricuh and all atheists will be jailed. Including scientists.
>>68006848
>I still think if they want to run a christian business that only caters to customers that don't offend their values they should be allowed to.
I've always been of the opinion that businesses should be able to exclude whoever they want based on anything? I've if they want to be racist then fine, let them.
Let the free market do it's job, and it keeps people honest about how they feel.
>>68006871
just like Donald Trump
