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what was this guy's problem?
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what was this guy's problem?
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>>67950783
Mentally ill.
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>>67950783
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>>67950783
Scottishness
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>>67950783
hes pretty scary for a manlet
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>>67950783
Adrenaline junkie, maybe had a short dick
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Needed to do some H and calm down.
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>>67950783
drugs and bad character
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>>67950783
He was a mick
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>>67951640
Begbie didn't do drugs
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>>67951711
wasn't he a cokehead?
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>>67951775
iirc he was the only one that didn't do coke
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>>67951775
I think he does speed

But his violence was fuelled by murderous rage, not drugs
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>>67951775
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>>67951913
He doesn't do heroin, but he does other drugs (coke or something was implied).

He's also just a raging piece of shit.
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http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/04/27/robert-carlyle-my-trainspotting-character-was-gay/

>Robert Carlyle: ‘My Trainspotting character was gay’

>“In the book, Renton and Sick Boy hint that he’s a repressed homosexual as a means of making him into a less frightening figure and thus empowering themselves against his violence.

>“John Hodge latched onto this side of things and amplified it subtly in the screenplay. It’s a standard middle-class view; the working-class hardman is subconsciously gay.”

>Francis Begbie is the film’s most terrifying character with his arbitrary acts of sickening violence and Carlyle believes that this is down to his “fear of being outed”.
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>>67950942
Shut up!!! :(
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>>67951996

2:47 "Begbie didn't do drugs either, he just did people"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUZyNLZZjMs
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>>67952125
nice image
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>>67952142
lmao never realized how weird the accents were even though i live in scotland
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He was a bored scotsman. There was no problem.
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>>67951996
This is partially true. He does speed in the book.
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>>67952142
Damn, I stand corrected
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>>67952014
>In the book, Renton and Sick Boy hint that he’s a repressed homosexual as a means of making him into a less frightening figure and thus empowering themselves against his violence.
I don't understand this.
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>>67952419
Convincing yourself that someone's extreme violent tendencies as a repercussion of homosexual repression makes someone seem less frightening due to them being insecure about it
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>>67952533
I still don't understand it. Even if he's just a repressed faggot, that doesn't make his violent outburts any less frightening. He'd still slit your throat at the blink of an eye if you do anything that rustles his tender dick.
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>>67952630
It shows that he's insecure as fuck and the personality he's based himself off is a sham, he might still be violent but his violence isn't as terrifying because there's a girlish root to it.
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>>67952694
Explain why he nearly killed that guy for 'distracting' him during the pool game then

The guy is just a nutjob, even if he is a repressed homosexual it doesn't explain his violence
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>>67952861
That whole story is about how he deludes himself into thinking he's a hard man, like I said basing his personality off that fact.

Never said I think he's repressed homosexual though, just that's how Renton rationalizes it, emsaculating him.

Not that weird if you've ever been around casual violence
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>>67952630
No worries man it's absolute bullshit, it doesn't matter if somebody is a pissed off lunatic or a pissed off lunatic that has confidence issues and likes cock, both are equally scary and will fuck you up.
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>>67950783

English people are all insane.
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Didn't he get pissed when he found out he was about to sleep with a tranny? Don't really think the gay theory has any merit outside of contemporary readings of media wanting to make all characters gay. (see: Dumbledore, Hitler, the only good character in Force Awakens)
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>>67953312
that's hardly evidence for either way though
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>>67952142
Is there something different about Begbie's accent? I can hardly understand him even when I'm listening carefully, but the others are fine.

Lucius Vorenus looks disgusting with long hair tbqh
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>>67953425
Sounds more like a northeast accent rather than a glasgow one, though all of their accents are a bit over the place
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>>67953219
SCOTLAND IS NOT ENGLAND
REMOVE YOURSELFS
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>>67953312
I'm sure it was mentioned further in Skagboys (the prequel to trainspotting and has heaps of great lore).

I can't recall exactly, but it was hinted at more than a couple of times and I think there was an altercation where Begbie absolutely lost it (more than usual) when someone called him gay or questioned his sexuality or how come he doesn't have a girlfriend or something.

irvine wasn't just making him gay for the sake of it, he was kind of fleshing out the character
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>>67950783
hey guys
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>>67950783
The Jews
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>>67953595
Ah kk, I did read that book and I sorta remember some moments that hinted but I just chalk it up to him being an eternally angry character.

Btw did you read The Blade Artist yet? Its all about Begbie but I haven't had a chance to get it so it probably fleshes him out even more.
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>>67954309
i haven't, i've lost a bit of faith in irvine welsh since sex lives of siamese twins came out.

however i love the trainspotting universe so will probably give a begbie solo book a crack, i'm sure his internal monologuing is hilarious. i hope they bring more of the books to the screen.
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>>67954415
Yeah I skipped Sex Lives just based on some bad word of mouth.

There's a great chapter in the anthology Reheated Cabbage about Christmas dinner at the Begbie household but you probably already know about it. Loved it when it gets to the point where Franco's just looking for any minor excuse to unload on his sisters bf.

Cautiously looking forward to Trainspotting 2 and reading The Blade Artist.
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>>67951711
He liked speed, and he liked to drink more than the rest of them, and a bit of the old ultra violence.

He was also a closeted fag with daddy issues.
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>>67954415
>>67954725
Did you guys read Filth?
Did you liked the book and the movie adaptation?
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>>67955096
I liked the book a lot, found the tapeworm narrated passages interesting and the fact that those sections were framed by intestine. James McAvoy was amazing in the movie, really heartbreaking performance.
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>>67955096
I thought McAvoy was far too charming as the cop, but it was a great movie based off an excellent book. I love movies that show a slow descent into madness and McAvoy really sold his unravelling and also the redemption.

I also think they captured the tapeworm scenes quite well
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>>67955196
>James McAvoy was amazing in the movie
He elevates anything he's in. He even manages to make a low budget made for sci-fi miniseries watchable.
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>>67950783
He was cast as Hitler and now can't get out of character.
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>>67950783
That's how british people behave all of the time.
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>>67955399
>This is a legitimate advertisement in UK bathrooms
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>>67951677
micks are oirish, ye quiverin' spalpeen

he were a fuckin' Jock

also morphine addict

also typical manlet so insecure he had to challenge and fight everyone with a y-chromosome within ten miles
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Daddy issues.
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>>67951913
what fueled his murderous rage? the knowledge that they were never going to get off Destiny and back to Earth safely? or that Commander Young beat the shit out of him?
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>>67955615
Ah dunna ken what yer talking aboot, ya daft cunt, tha beggar loved the bevvy. He would absolootly not put tha shite in his veins.
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>>67950783
He's a closeted faggot
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>>67950783
Same problem as 90% of 4chan, fap to traps but cant deal with the fact that they're gay and wanna fuck twinks.
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>>67955712
*dinnae
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