Let's talk about American Crime Story season 1, which just wrapped
here's some questions to start things off
>why was the rapist waiter there at the end?
>why was the bobby kardashian payoff, that had been building over the course of 10 episodes, end in him walking out so passively?
>what was up with all the low angles in the last episode? Like every fucking shot was from a cameraman laying on the floor
>why was the payoff so weak for such a long show? it felt unresolved and dragged out over 30 minutes
>why was the rapist waiter there at the end?
that wasn't the point, it was to show how the party was full of people OJ didn't know instead of his friends who obviously alienated him now
Kind of an old question but why did marcia clark want battered black women specifically on jury to help convict OJ?
>>67925073
because they'd sympathize with nicole and assume he did it
>>67925187
but why black specifically?
>>67925296
that I don't know. Maybe its because black women are more likely to have dated black men?
>>67924444
>why was the bobby kardashian payoff, that had been building over the course of 10 episodes, end in him walking out so passively?
because thats how it happened I guess
>>67925322
See it kind of bugged me later on in the show because it seemed like she was not trying to be like johnnie cochrane and make this about race and had chris darden forced upon her but it seemed like she went after black women specifically because they might be a problem for oj.
>>67925296
it was racial stereotyping ok
the assumption was that black women felt oppressed by black men and that they got beat a lot, so would be ok with putting a black man behind bars
>>67925323
could have at least been a face-to-face confrontation where bobby explained why or something. It just feels so unresolved when he walked away like that. This is practically the only reason bobby was in the series at all. It's the only thing he was building towards at all, since there wasn't any prosecution going on from him
>>67925073
because they've been beaten by black men
>>67925296
black bitches hate white women being with black guys
>>67924444
>why was the bobby kardashian payoff, that had been building over the course of 10 episodes, end in him walking out so passively?
Firstly, great quads.
Secondly, Kardashian was representative of all of OJs white friends, none of them ever confronted him or anything because they didn't want to be labelled as racist but they all knew the truth and just excluded him socially once he was out. Kardashian was just one of the last ones to give up and he'd been friends with him for years and walked away when it was done.
The Brentwood community were pro-OJ until the DNA testimony just like Kardashian(at least from what I've heard).
>>67925519
>Armenians
>white
>those pictures at the end
most of them where fucking spot on
except Marcia and OJ
real Marcia was a goblin and Paulson is too qt
Cuba was the complete opposite of how OJ looked
when I first heard about this show I thought it would be a crappy but entertaining debacle. It ended up being entertaining and really well made and acted, 9/10
>a show to remind you that niggers are subhuman savages who cheered at the death of whites
>>67925829
yeah I thought it was going to be another AHS type murphy shitfest but its my favorite show of the year so far
>>67925901
>jews
>white
>>67925664
I wish sarah paulson wasnt a lesbian
>>67925937
Nicole wasn't a Jew
Just a dumb coal burner who the LAPD Failed to protect and the people of California failed to give justice for
>>67925962
me too
shes gorgeous
I can't believe they ever thought they had a prayer with 10 black jurors
>>67926058
when american horror story asylum was on I would watch it with my then girlfriend and pretend she was her
>>67925322
dats raccist u kracka ass whyte boi
>>67925962
You don't like a challenge?
Weak.
>>67926325
A challenge? Not really, women are challenging enough. I did make out with a "lesbian" before though while her girlfriend went to the bathroom
OJ DIndu nuttin
>>67925401
>people should act dramatic and out of character and different from history for my amusement
Shouldn't you be in bed, kid? How was Easter egg hunting btw.
Juice..
>>67926743
>You want some juice, Juice?
![jessica-blair-herman-and-cuba-gooding-jr-attend-the-after-party-for-picture-id507190824[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/fmQ5cnQ.jpg "jessica-blair-herman-and-cuba-gooding-jr-attend-the-after-party-for-picture-id507190824[1].jpg")
Need me some alt-history with Kimmy.
>>67926790
huh?
simpson case is great example why you shoudnt let niggers be jurors
>>67927176
it's a great example of why you shouldn't have a jury at all
>>67926325
It's not just the lesbian part. It's a lesbian, into really old women. That's past challenge, into impossible
>>67927488
what is this
>>67928447
DELETE THIS
why did the white jurors JUST give up
>>67928447
She was clearly fiddled as a kid right? That's why she's into older broads?
Well I'm only on episode 4. John Travoltas makeup is distracting.
>>67928482
Because they didn't want to be labeled as racist. The black jurors minds were clouded because a cop said some mean things about them.
>>67929080
Hes had a lot of botox that's what he looks like now
IF THE GLOVE DOES NOT FIT
>>67929280
>if the glove's too small
>easy call
>Obviously did it but Americans too scared of another chimp out to act to convict
Well done wimps
>>67926092
That's why there was the whole juror aquittal debacle. That was a way of shifting the demographic.
Rate it
>>67930798
3/10 why would they cast such a little pleb like Cuba Gooding Jr to play a former football player?
I want a new trial of the century.
Man I wish they found him guilty, not for any justice purpose but to see the reaction of the people. The city would have been lit up!
This show really makes black people look like easily manipulated hypocrites even though I'm pretty sure the intent was opposite.
The katrina season is probably going to make this into the ultimate DINDU: The Series
Will Travolta get an Emmy?
>>67931507
critics didn't like him so no
>>67931507
emmy's probably will go to marcia and cochran
>>67931521
How could anybody not like him?
Shapiro was the tragic hero of the story.
The only one trying to keep things reasonable.
But painted a villain by both sides.
He's the hero we need, but don't deserve.
>>67931521
they've hated Travolta since forever. At his best he's a fantastic actor and he did really well in this series.
Is OJ Simpson the worst shaver of all time?
>>67931739
I still don't get why he was in the show. He still seems like he's too big of a name to have what was mostly a supporting role
>>67931857
He was a producer
>>67924444
>>67931755
naw man, he good >>67930798
>you gonna look for the real killer now?
american bantz is best bantz
Best character.
Seriously, he was the only one with a bit of brain.
Does /tb/ think OJ was guilty?
>>67932706
is there any info about his and oj's relationship post-trial? i know at the end of the show it said they didn't speak but it'd be interesting to see if it happened how it was portrayed on the show.
Does anyone know how accurate the show was? Apparently it was more accurate than inaccurate but dunno how true that was.
>>67933034
the in court shit was accurate, who is to say how accurate the other stuff was
>>67928913
I'm pretty sure that's why she's a lesbian in the first place, famalam
The part where they showed the reactions of real people from that day was a nice part. I loved that in Narcos too.
The cast was really good. Nathan Lane was great.
>>67924444
Im not watching this shitty show, but isn't it obvious that his son did it?
>>67933150
>but isn't it obvious that his son did it?
It was obviously the butler.
>>67933034
I've been reading the Vulture's articles on it and a surprisingly large amount of it is accurate. They tend to play up some of the more personal shit (Clark and Darden's "romance", Kardashian's doubt, etc) but most of it happened.
http://archive.is/MFwBE
So how fucking pissed are you about the s2 plot? I wanted court room drama not "muh dead niggers floating in the streets of NOLA" I was hoping for something interesting. Like a period drama on the trial of h.h Holmes
>>67929350
If the glove is askew, the trial must begin anew
>>67924444
>booby kardashian payoff built up over 10 episodes
1) Because they wanted to show how OJ's former friends reacted in a single character representing them all
2) Because they thought they'd get extra viewership with a Kardashian constantly in the movie, why do you think they had so many scenes with Kardashian's kids
>based scene where Bobby Kardashian tries telling them what it means to be good and the kids are clearly not paying attention
>>67933177
Nice meme.
>>67933205
i trust the showrunners and fx at this point
>>67933177
The butler did it.
It's always the butler.
>>67933222
>>based scene where Bobby Kardashian tries telling them what it means to be good and the kids are clearly not paying attention
He was great!
>>67933249
I don't. Look at AHS.
>Season 1
Great
>Season 2
Wild and good
>Season 3 and on
shit
Should have thought twice about those Rodney King beatings
Then this wouldn't have happened
>rapist waiter
the rapist was a waiter in italy
>>67933205
Honestly, there's no other case they could have covered that would have the same level of courtroom drama. Can anyone think of a single case other than OJ that had so much media attention, so many characters and personalities, so much bullshit going on from both sides, the conspiracies they created, etc etc?
>>67933222
Why doesn't he get more roles?
Maybe he will now?
>>67933316
Because he's Ross from Friends.
Based Shapiro
>>67933422
Fuck that white haired cunt
>>67933304
Casey Anthony or the Manson murders would be good, would be different tone and themes but their are similarities regarding the media.
>>67933478
he won't get it
>>67933422
>It wasn't legally rape back in 1988
What did he mean by this
>>67933304
Nothing could come close, but I feel like since not much(other than the court documents) has ever been shown about the Holmes trial, it'd be a great part of criminal history to adapt. Apparently it was pretty wild, lots of intense moments as the prosecutor's going through his history up to his murders, lots of psychiatrists basically inventing diagnoses and medical terms bout mental health. Dude had like 6 wives, I mean the whole thing is ripe for exploiting. We all know the story of Holmes and the hotel but not the trial. Also a late 1800's courtroom? Would be great.
>>67933482
Manson stuff has been done to death. Along with most serial killer stuff. What if they did a season covering a famous white collar crime?
>>67933422
Damn you beat me to it.
Also, SHAPIROED
>>67933304
The could make one on Cogne's homicide
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cogne_homicide
>>67933530
Meh most white collar stuff is boring. I mean, Enron, ponzi schemes like madof, ect. Nothing really shocking about them. Maybe something like the Warren or 9/11 commission would be neat though. Lots of crazy shit came out the Kennedy assassination.
I was waiting for a comparison pic with the Kardashian kids and I didn't get one. Disappointed tbhfam
>Kardashian died of cancer in 2003
;_;
>>67924444
Because that's how things happened as anticlimatic it may have been. They gave Cochran a character building scene when they showed one of his past encounters with the police so they did the same for Martha. Bobby just walking out makes sense for his character and is just what actually happened.
>>what was up with all the low angles in the last episode? Like every fucking shot was from a cameraman laying on the floor
I'll have to watch this again to see this. There is probably a point to this
President Bill Clintons Impeachment Trial
Michael Jackson pedo trial
Timothy McVeigh trial
Or my personal favorite
The John Gotti trial
>>67933645
>Michael Jackson pedo trial
Oh wow that would be good. Who would play Michael Jackson though?
>>67933667
Probably some fucking white male
>>67933667sarah silverman
>>67933645
>>67933667
>>67933686
>Another American star
>Another black not feeling part of MUH BLACK COMMUNITY
I would like something about process to police officers or soldiers.
>>67933304
nuremberg
>>67933667
Which trial?
>>67933667
the kid from nip/tuck obviously
>>67933667
Just look at John Travolta and answer that again.
>>67933316
Because no matter what he's in people just see him as Ross Geller.
is this worth watching? i feel embarrassed to say that this is the first time i have heard of this
>tfw you will never be as big a slimeball as shapiro
Why did Mark Furhman think it was a good idea to go full /pol/ on some wannabe screenwriter chick he didn't know?
>>67934507
Yes it is.
>>67934541
>slimeball
leave
>>67933645
>President Bill Clintons Impeachment Trial
they wont
>Michael Jackson pedo trial
potential
>Timothy McVeigh trial
too bland
>The John Gotti trial
would be less court and more off screen stuff
>>67928447
Old enough to be her grandmother, and yet she's her lover?
>>67928913
>>67933098
These have to be the reasonings for this, yes?
>>67933300
And IRL it wasn't Italy, it was Israel
And they changed that for obvious reasons
>>67934569
Because /pol/ is /pol/.
>>67933667
Sandra Bullock
>>67931041
we got em back with zimmerman
>dat goldmans family in the parking garage shot
Strong feels
>>67931730
He got his own back though.
>Cucks Bailey out of his law career
My sides
>>67935016
That was so weirdly specific, they could have said raped by a waiter while on holiday or fucking anything but they changed it deliberately to Italy.
Fucking Jews.
>>67935016
>>67935835
holy shit really?
FUCKING. LEL.
>>67933489
you couldn't rape your wife back then
>>67933422
Honestly, he was my favorite character.
>that speech he gave in North Carolina
>>67933645
>implying it won't be the Bergdahl trial
>>67933614
The only good kardashian is the dead one
>>67937485
He might as well suck the judge's dick.
>>67925296
Cuz dew white womenz be takin our niggaz lawdy lawdy lawddd
Are black women the least intelligent demographic?
>>67933276
>Season 1
shit
>Season 2
decent
>Season 3 and on
shit
ftfy
>>67924444
>why was the rapist waiter there at the end?
At the party celebrating OJ basically it was full of frauds. OJ though that the knew him personally. The Waiter was in awe of OJ as this new celebrity as a result of the trial than his career before. It threw him off guard. OJ realized his personal image has forever been changed
>why was the bobby kardashian payoff, that had been building over the course of 10 episodes, end in him walking out so passively?
Bob realized that OJ did it and it showed the end of their relationship. He never scolded OJ for it. He did a 180 of believing OJ's story to realizing that they got a murderer off.
>what was up with all the low angles in the last episode? Like every fucking shot was from a cameraman laying on the floor
Brings sense of despair for the outcome
>why was the payoff so weak for such a long show? it felt unresolved and dragged out over 30 minutes
It was not weak. It did not drag out the verdict by the jury. The episode is more about the aftermath of the verdict on the key players.
Just finished it. Absolutely excellent season of television. Masterclass in acting. Perfectly adapted and directed.
What an abortion of justice.
>>67939103
>Masterclass in acting.
THIS.
The cast was simply amazing.
>>67931730
I loved it when he chewed out Cochran for having the Nation of Islam as body guards. He knew that Cochran is taking the race thing too far.
>>67924444
Have to say, you sound daft, OP. These are really dumb questions that show a lack of intelligence or maturity.
>What's up with that!?
Darton hugging the goldmens was pretty emotional..
Does anyone have the full speech of questions asked to Fuhrman with like 6 niggers in it? I Wana put it on my FB wall
>>67939465
>FB wall
Wew lad
>>67932706
i felt for him a lot through out the show, i cant imagine being in a position like that with your best friend.
>>67933482
I'd kill for a Casey Anthony season
>>67931452
I dont understand why the second season is about Katrina....what Crime are they referring too? All of the looters?
>>67925073
1. From the start Marcia saw this and tried to sell it as a domestic violence and abuse case, when it was very obviously a race case. Her inability to read and connect with jurors was one of her greatest faults for the case.
2. The reason for having the case downtown and having a largely black jury was because they wanted to avoid race riots. Fewer things would look worse than an all white jury convicting a famous black person.
>>67932950
He mentioned in interviews that he doubted he was innocent and was very deeply troubled by the entire ordeal. He also was somewhat friendly with
Marcia, coming up and saying hello to her a couple of weeks before he died of cancer.
Also some interesting reading on one of oj's attempted comebacks before he went to prison. Like in the show, it took him a while to see that no one really wanted any part of him and it hurt him bad. Though one of his friends (likely robert) told the vulutre journalist that he was't worried about suicide because of the judgement OJ would receive after death would be much more severe than any judicial punishment.
http://www.vice.com/read/i-was-oj-simpsons-accomplice-on-his-hidden-camera-prank-show-juiced
>>67940417
i'm guessing this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danziger_Bridge_shootings
However, there are a lot of mindboggling fuck ups with the both the failed prevention and aftermath of Katrina.
>>67941417
>when it was very obviously a race case
Was it going to be a race case without Cockroach blowing it out of proportions?
I mean, even OJ didn't want it to be a race case at the beginning.
This all makes me wonder if OJ suffers from CTE.
It would make a lot of sense with Simpson's history of domestic violence and criminal behavior, even with or without the double homicide included.
all the abuse his body went through playing football. but it raises the question; if someone suffers from CTE and commits terrible and violent acts, are they fully responsible for their actions? since they are considered mentally ill, and hypothesizing or in theory OJ could suffer from CTE, is he the monster people see him to be or to a certain degree a victim himself?
http://www.inquisitr.com/2794631/o-j-simpson-likely-suffers-from-cte-says-concussion-doctor-bennett-omalu/
>>67942033
>if someone suffers from CTE and commits terrible and violent acts, are they fully responsible for their actions?
In his case, why should he be? He didn't get the trauma from a beating. He choose to play a dangerous sport.
Also
>Currently, there is no test for CTE, which can only be diagnosed by examining the brain tissue of the deceased
how would you diagnose it? How would you be sure he is not just a douchebag? The symptoms are too much advantageous for someone who is facing jail.
> is he the monster people see him to be or to a certain degree a victim himself?
Well, the show makes a point about his reaction to the events. He doesn't ask how his wife died and he is clearly more shocked of being left alone in jail than her wife's death.
>>67942283
>should he be?
*should he NOT be?
>>67942033
In terms of legality, if you are cognitive enough to know that you are killing people then you are fully liable, even if it's in a fit of rage or you aren't fully in control. The best they could hope for would be manslaughter instead of pre-meditative murder.
Isn't this kind of in line with Shapiro's black out defense?
>>67941711
Race was always going to be a massive factor whether the defense downplayed it or not. It's very likely that the slam dunk case was always a losing uphill battle for the prosecution the moment they picked a mixed race jury and all the defense needed was to create just a little doubt and the prosecution gave them more than enough.
>they kept the stutter on the verdict delivery
Really nice touch.
>all the niggers celebrating the acquittal
Fucking disgusting.
>>67933222
>based scene where Bobby Kardashian tries telling them what it means to be good and the kids are clearly not paying attention
that was honestly one of the worst scenes in the whole show, how incredibly insipid
>>67944177
Not that anon, but you're wrong. The parallels are crystal clear. That trial gave birth not only to modern TMZ 24/7 celebrity obsession but also, very directly, the empire that Robert's ex-wife and kids built, however tawdry.
>>67944360
Right, and everyone watching the show with any level of attention already knows that. There was no need for him to lecture his kids (wink wink omg the kardashians wink wink) about it.
>>67934975
Middle aged women who own mirrors grab what they can be comfortable with.
Life's a bitch.
>>67944177
>>67944360
>>67944493
Yuropoor here. I don't get it.
>>67944584
Ross played Kardashian patriarch. The reason the name means anything is because of him. He was apparently an ok guy, or at least came to see the Juice was guilty. He was warning his kids against vapid celebrity or whatever, which they became famous for.
>>67944493
I dunno. It's not a stretch, it has real life reverberations. A little on the nose? Maybe, but it's Ryan Murphy. Most everything else was handled really well.
>>67944688
>He was warning his kids against vapid celebrity or whatever, which they became famous for.
I like that scene even more now.
Thanks.
>>67939103
>>67939156
Exactly.nI still don't understand why Travolta got so much shit for his acting. he was, like the rest of the cast, spot on.
>>67944944
Because he's a normie meme.
>lol Travoltas so weird and those eyebrows and Scientology
Whatever, suspend disbelief. He was fantastic. Perfectly measured and well coifed like Shapiro and the effete LA celebrity lawyers of his ilk.
