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Why are DC animated movies much so much better than Marvel?
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Why are DC animated movies much so much better than Marvel?
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>>67890371
>this
>good
Lol. Seeing Starfire sexchat with Dick was the only good part
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>>67890433
>sexchat
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Who cares? Looks like dogshit.
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>>67890507
Yeah?
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Why is Damian in the Teen Titans? I just saw another thread saying he was only 11 or 12 canonically.
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>>67890371
Based timm set the bar high.
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>>67890656
Can Disney buy Timm, Dini, and Andrea Romano?
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>>67890371

Goddamn them thighs on Starfire though
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>>67890627

Age is just a number
-Chloe Moretz

also his dad was in trouble
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>>67890371
Because DC's cinematic universe sucks and so everything is kept in balance
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>>67890433
>>67890507
>Sexchat
She talks to Dick about Damien while she's wearing a bathrobe. Dick's dick appears to get hard. That's it.
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Raven was a cutie
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>>67890627
In the movie Bruce sends him there to learn to work in a team and stop being and edgy asshole.
In the comics Dickbatman sent him there for pretty much the same reasons if I remember correctly
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I like this. It wasn't amazing but the DC animated movies are kind of all over the place in terms of quality. It was definitely better than the last two Batman/Damian movies.
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>>67890627
his father is like a billionaire or something, who gives a fuck about age
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>>67890973
Starfire has always been in the top 3 of DC's sexiest women. Wonder Woman isn't even in the running.
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only good animated marvel is spiderman tas and guardians of the galaxy
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>>67891078

Yeah but she was kind of a stick on Teen Titans, a sexy one


>>67891081

Spectacular Spider-Man was good too.
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>DC dominates animated market
>has shit movies
>Marvel dominates movie market
>has shit animation
Pottery
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http://www.ranker.com/list/top-25-hottest-dc-characters/crossbonesgt
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>>67891097
>Spectacular Spider-Man
>Norman Osborn got away with everything
>S3 never
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>>67891114

>using Gadot for Wonder Woman's picture

NO.
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>>67891097
that's the worst starfre
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is this canon with young justice?
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>>67891143

>you will never break your son's bones as an alibi
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>>67891239

no
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>>67891239

Young Justice what's that? :^)
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>>67891226
she really wants that Dick
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>>67891226
Naw, I prefer purefire over slutfire. Both give me "the boner", though.
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>>67890371
Slutfire was the only thing worth watching

DCAU has been shit since they tried to do flashpoint. Absolutely shit.
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You know what frustrates me?
Marvel for a good while was doing just as well with their animated movies. World war hulk was one of their best but for some reason they switched over to the CG animated buddy cop movies

DC animation has stayed consistent wish marvel would go back to how they were
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>>67890915
I'm sure they could. Timm has said on many occasions he's a Marvel guy. if he put that much love into DC imagine what he could do for Marvel. Sadly Disney thinks Loeb can do no wrong and lets him control that side of the business.
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>>67891081
You need to watch the Kyle and Yost productions, Earth's mightiest heroes and Wolverine and the X-men. Also Spectacular Spider-Man
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>>67891239
Same art style but no it's not
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Because they're all straight to DVD movies that Warner Brothers couldn't care less about. If they actually cared about them then you know they would mandate them to be all dark and edgy.

I like some of the stylization they have too. Marvel animation generally feels cheap, but DC has put out some high-quality stuff.
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Reminder that the most mature and thematic cape movie of all time is from a "kids" cartoon from 1992
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>>67890371
DC animated anything has always been better than Marvel. Which makes it that much more frustrating why they can't do fucking movies.
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>>67892662
WB is more interested in q uick buck. Besides Executives run that place like it's still the 60s with no regards to reality. The only reason the early Batman series to justice League was so good is because Bruce Timm an co weren't afraid to tell the executives they were out of touch or ever so brilliantly twisted their words but still came out with a competent product.

Batman Beyond was the result of the executives demanding Batman should be in high school. Timm said they'd do it as long as the set in in the future. They grenlit it and Timm made it even more dark and even violent than the original Batman but it worked so the execs didn't complain. No one is looking at them now saying/doing the same.
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Who the fuck cares. You guys are children arguing about action figures on the playground

Please grow up
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>>67893034
No.
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>it's a "heroes meet and fight evil versions of themselves" animated movie episode
>there are no other kind of episodes
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>>67893054
Enjoy your virginity.
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>>67892296
>DC animation has stayed consistent
These films have been getting worse and worse ever since... I want to say Justice League: Doom was the last good one. Assault on Arkham wasn't bad either. But the newer ones that all exist in the same continuity have been legit awful. Their only redeeming feature is that random new Wonder Woman outfit that's exclusive to the series.

This latest one was just fuck awful
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>>67893116
>he waited until adulthood to lose his virginity

wtf??
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>>67893135
Assault on Arkham didn't know if it wanted to be a kid's movie or an adult one. That hurt it. Doom's only redeeming quality was old voice actors.
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>>67893175
no sex before marriage
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I liked Batman Vs Robin
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>>67893135
gods and monsters was pretty goat
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>>67893183
>Doom's only redeeming quality was old voice actors.
It was also the last one to feature Japanese animation. I don't think people have noticed how far the animation quality has dropped since.
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>>67890371
that was then. now DC animation is kinda shit except the movies Bruce Timm produces which are still good.

and Marvel, their Spider-Man series is literally for babies, but their Avengers Assemble series has gotten pretty good, though still not as sophisticated as BTAS, STAS and JL/JLU.

so, no one's really clearly dominating, I think. James Tucker produced movies and TASM are shit. Bruce Timm produced movies and AA are good.
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>>67893311
I'm so glad Snyder is off Batman, His obsession with leaving his mark on the Joker was asinine from beginning to end
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>>67893323
probably the best one ever
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>>67893324
Actually it was a guy who was obsessed with anime who over did it on Superman vs The Elite which made them switch to this albeit more awful style.
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>>67891226
I would really love for Redhood and the Outlaws to get animated just to see Starfire.
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>>67893432
I too want to fap to a live action starfire
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>>67893552
>live action

They'd get an actress you'd hate and it wouldn't be as good as you think. he wants it animated.
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>>67893592
You're probaly right. They'll never give her the T'n'A that she deserves
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because DCAU is the magnum opus of animated capeshit
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>>67894596
I love urban shaman Question but I loved this ultra conspiracy nut Question even more. Jeffery Combs voicing him really accented the character.
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I haven't seen Justice League vs Teen Titans, but I'm inclined to agree with you about DC having better animated movies than Marvel. Under the Red Hood is legitimately better than any live-action Batman movie Warner Bros has ever shit out.

The problem is that nobody cares about animated movies(especially straight-to-dvd ones) except for children and adults who read comic books.
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>>67894766

Most of the casting took the shows from "decently written and well drawn" to the legendary status it achieved.

Ed Asner as Granny Goodness is still one of the best decisions ever made in voice work.
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GOAT
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>>67894896
That batman's a big guy
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>>67894957
Yup
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>>67894803
>I haven't seen Justice League vs Teen Titans, but
it's bad
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>>67894896
>>67895024
Is that the universe where he has a glandular problem? or the one where he can't lay off the Big Belly Burger?
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DC has Batman: TAS and Batman Beyond

Those alone destroy anything Marvel has put forward
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>>67892416

>Wolverine and the X-men.

Complete and utter shit, just like the comic that came after it.
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>>67895056
Everything with Raven is bad. Trigon is a shit baddy
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>>67894827
I still read her in his voice. When they get a woman to do it just sounds wrong.
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>>67895083
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Etst4t3ES8Y

That's not funny
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>>67895103
Everything with Damien is bad, which has been most of them recently.
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22 years later and still the best animated superhero movie.
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>>67895177
Fucking Damian, I wish Bruce would kill him already
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>>67895056
has it's perks

>this cat lady is top of WW's rogues gallery
oh boy the live action movies will be laughable
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>>67895238
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>>67895262
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>>67895296
We Sailor Moon now
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The last one I saw was the Red Hood one which was great.
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>>67890371
what is this shit
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>>67895296
>that fan service

Did they need to show her ass? Did they have to have her skirt be so tight?
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>>67890371
WB DC Animated department has been active since the 90s and have many people on their staff that has worked in comics. Marvel's on the other hand has not and different cartoons are done by different groups.
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>>67895346
Do you need to be gay?
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>>67895238

I'd like them to get her done right but..eh. At least it's not Silver Swan.
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>>67895319
actually, Symphogear
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>>67890371
you would be usually right but this one was shit.
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>>67895346
I think you answered your own question
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This how you do dark and fun same time. Its not quip shit , yet evillish.

Also liked raven and starfier.
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>>67895376
symphgear mimicked sailor moon
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When was the last Marvel animated movie anyway, haven't they just given up?
Literally BTFO
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>>67895456
Holy fuck, the last one was in 2014

I never even realized that Marvel had given up.
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>>67895456
2014 avengers confidential: black widow & punisher
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>>67895508
they realized that they didn't want the kid audience and focused on the manchild audience, which means lots and lots of live action
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>>67895238
>WW fighting in the DC cartoons
Muh dick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPlSdns_n1E
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>>67895554
>tfw you will never be beaten up by qt warrior princesses
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>>67895427

Sailor Moon mimicked Magical Girl Gigi.
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>>67895554
>that scene with Barda in a towel
unf

Also i don't know why but that leg maneuver WW does on that rope is arousing.
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>>67895346
Do you need to suck dicks?
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>>67895238
I seriously doubt Cheetah will appear in the first Wonder Woman movie.

If she appears in a sequel, they'll probably with her New 52 backstory about an ancient tribal cheetah spirit that is supposedly possessing this poor woman, until it's discovered that the woman is actually a bitch who's corrupted the cheetah spirit and turned it into a villain.
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>>67890371
it was fine but i hated ravens voice actor
I get she's a monotone character but that doesn't mean her voice should be flat. VA's are the main backbone behind animated characters that don't have super detailed facial expressions. Tara Strong did an amazing job voicing her in the 2003 show.

Also, I hate that they're trying to pair her up with Damien I liked the Beastboy and Raven stuff that was alluded in the show.
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>>67895981
ah fuck I just looked at IMDB and remembered Ron Perlman voiced Slade
He should be the only person allowed to
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>>67890627
Nepotism.
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>>67896321
To be fair, he's also basically a mini-batman i.e talented and useful as fuck
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What's some dcaucore?
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>>67896406
red hood
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>>67896406
Pic Related is 2000/10
any Justice League animated movie
Batman Year One
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>>67895346
It's Starfire, so yes. Being a hippy freelove alien that can't ever into Earthen puritanism is kind of her whole schtick.
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>>67892564
I remember being blown away by this as a kid in the late 90s, I watched it again about a year ago and it still holds up. Probably the best animated capeshit unless Killing Joke beats it.
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>>67890371
what even was the last Marvel animated movie?
Japanese shit doesn´t count

I feel like the stopped making those after iron man become a smash hit
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>>67896384
Which still doesn't make up for what a dickbag cuntweasel he is.
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>>67896644
that's the whole reason batman sent him to the teen titans. he needs to grow up with people his own age. he's just gonna stay spoiled if he hangs out with batman all the time. how can you not see this?
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>>67894896
I didn't like Joker's voice but aside from that it was pretty good
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>>67896557
starfire confirmed for best wiafu
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>>67896709
No, I sympathize. It's a good plan for Bruce and it could work out for Damien. It just sucks a lot of cocks for all the other Titans.
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>>67896849
they all pretty much get that he grew up fucked up so they're dealing with it
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>In hell trying to stop the devil
>get to containment crystal
>crystal shatters
>Ra's al ghul standing with sword drawn

Damien fighting his grandpa in hell
>nice
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>>67896849
It's good for Raven. He's gonna end up banging daemon pussy
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lets all face it, we all seen JL vs TT because of sexy starfire. I mean FUCK! look at her, shes innocent but pretty freaky. The only thing i wll say is that. Ill tap that ass
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>>67896840
You know, it just occurred to me, you wouldn't ever need to wear a condom with her either.
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>>67897017
Not unless BB sweeps her off her feet like always
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>>67897071
how did you get out of youtube?
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>>67897071
I just wish she wasn't orange.


Her and Ashoka would be perfect wiafus if it wasn't for that
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>>67890371
Honestly it looks mediocre. Someone call me when Killing Joke comes out, that'll be fantastic.
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>>67897017
If your goal was to make me mad; mission fucking successful.
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>>67897118
they're either gonna put him with terra, make him aesexual, or might make him and beetle gay
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>>67893327
You had shit like Rise of Technovore and Punisher vs Widow which were weeb shit.
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>>67897017
next thing you know, they will have a baby and that baby is going to be a bitch to damian and raven so damian is going to tell raven to send that son of a bitch to hell. later damian is going to realize that he's always been a bitch to his bruce.
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>>67897229
Yup, sounds like DC alright
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WHO BATMAN BEYOND HERE?
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>>67897116
wtf is a condom?
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>>67895296
>Super Sentai transformation
It's just like my chinese cartoons! lmao
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>>67897179
>Raven will never be yours
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>>67897128
I'll agree with you slightly as Ashoka is just a shit waifu all together. Starfire should always be orange.
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>>67897316
shell always be orange but will always have a white face after im done with her
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>>67897178
Hammil said he'd come back for and what do you know he did. Conroy too?

This is going to be great
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>ywn impregnate starfire

put me out of my misery please
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>>67897178
It really was. The /co/ consensus put it at around a 4-6 for solid fight scenes and cutie Raven costumes against clunky pacing, poor characterization, atrocious voice acting, and Damien fucktardery.

Batman: Year One (with Bryan Cranston as Gordon) and Dark Knight Returns are still where it's at.
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Because they're more invested in that side of things than Marvel, and they have better characters to work with (fucking Damian notwithstanding).
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>>67894896
BEST
E
S
T
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>>67894596
Should have a solo movie and there needs to be a the phantom remake.
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>>67897311
She could still be Garfield's. She could still be Dick's. Pairing her with Damien would be the dumbest thing that DC has ever done.

Whatever though. It's only New 52 Raven that goes out and gets a tramp stamp so she's garbage tier regardless.
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>>67897595
good thing Rebirth is a month away
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>>67897401
>>67890371
honestly that raven costume is distracting with how much they contoured her body
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>>67890371
>Turning Starfire into an annoying soccer mom-type

Horrible
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>>67897595
If she could stand it; every movie Damian seems to have a character reset where any lesson he learned about being an uncooperative arsehole is lost.
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>>67897382
Warner Bros. has also allowed the film to be rated R. Now that doesn't mean it will be R, just that if they finish the film and it gets an R rating, they'll keep it instead of editing it out.

>>67897401
Figured. I've been disappointed with these shared universe movies, since War, they haven't been great.

I hope they do a Red Son movie as well.
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>>67897595
To be fair, no comic book version of Raven has ever been as perfect as the Cartoon Network version.
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>>67897663
Forgive me for being casual when it comes to comics, but I keep hearing about it and was just curious, what exactly is Rebirth? Are they seriously rebooting things again despite already having done so with The New 52?
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>>67897863
>>67897663
lol if they are that's fucking hilarious
it might just be an off-shoot like the ultimate universe for marvel
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>>67897863
Marvel and DC are constantly doing reboots/revamps/etc. It happens so often that it's actually comical, but it's also the best way to make comics accessible to new readers. Most people who take the first steps into actually reading comics are too autistic to start a series from anywhere other than #1.

All of these reboots are a little bit different though. They all have different terms and conditions that allow them to fit into the overall universes in creative ways. It doesn't change the fact that they're constantly being rebooted though, which in itself is kind of shameful.
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>>67895658
because it's well animated. It constrasts very well with the rest of the sequence
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>>67897863
New 52 was suppose to reboot continuity to appeal non comic book fans and failed. Then they attempted DCYou where the goal was to make the stories more personal and relatable but become clogged with social issues and agenda. Rebirth is going to bring back the "legacy" of the universe and be a more gradual evolution.

In short DC realized they messed up by rebooting the universe and should have just progressed the Post-Crisis universe. I'm cautiously optimistic.
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>>67897116
NO RUBBER
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>>67898083
more like DC should not do no reboots and marvel should stay what they are doing. Honestly, i think marvel is doing well but DC is just shit right now
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>when a random christian rock song starts playing
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>>67892416
>spectacular spider-man
;_;
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>>67898146
Then you must not be reading Marvel. I mean Civil War 2? Seriously.
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>>67897729
Sorry, I should have clarified. I didn't mean her work clothes.
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>>67896406
The Dark Knight Returns part 1 and 2 are the best movies from the DCAU. Honestly, most of the films are pretty good, I really like Flashpoint and Justice League: Doom as well.
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>>67897401
>Batman: Year One
That movie was fucking SHIT. The Dark Knight Returns is DCAU's absolute best though.
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>>67898083
Thank you.
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>>67898347
if it was titled Gordon: Year One it would have been way better.

Thew guy who voiced Batman is Gordon on Gotham now.

>>67898290
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnJb65keZi4

>That look at 2:49
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>>67895238

Why couldn't she fight against Giganta instead. She's the only one of her rogues gallery that's remotely interesting.
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>>67890371
>>>/co/ is that way
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>>67898618

What, an ape turned into a human?
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>>67897298

He was Bruce's son a full year before Damien Wayne was re-introduced. And it was a lot more meaningful to learn. That JLU episode was fucking GOAT with Amanda Waller.
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>>67898645

Her origins changed a bunch of times.
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>>67897951
>It happens so often that it's actually comical,
I see what you did there.

And what DC should see is that they only need to do it once providing they do it right.
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>>67898645
That was her JLU origin.
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>>67898678
>He was Bruce's son a full year before Damien Wayne was re-introduced. And it was a lot more meaningful to learn. That JLU episode was fucking GOAT with Amanda Waller.

How is it more meaningful? That Terry was ALWAYS supposed to become Batman because the universe wanted it to be so? That episode ruins Terry, instead of someone who worked their fucking ass off to earn the mantle, from a chip on his shoulder delinquent to superhero protégé, he was always genetically predisposed to become Batman.

That episode is fucking wank, worse yet the person Terry initially put on the suit to avenge wasn't even his real father, just a fucking cuck.
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>>67898618
Meh. She's only on screen for like 15 seconds or so to show the the Justice League being boss so it's no major deal regardless.

Sidenote: Will be happy to see that costume gone. It just doesn't convey anything about her character at all.
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honestly i loved this movie because i love all DC animated movies and i love the teen titans.

always been super into raven

and watching this, and seeing this thread made me then and makes me now wanna go fap to her.

damn raven is the fucking best.
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>>67898717
It's not just DC. Marvel's been doing it too. It's not a matter of whether they did it right or wrong the first time. It's a matter of new readers being too autistic to start a series from anywhere other than #1.

DC and Marvel both want new readers, and unfortunately this is the way to do it. Every so often they get rid of every fucking series they have and restart everything from issue #1. Sometimes that means pulling some in-universe time travel bullshit to actually reboot everything(New 52) and sometimes it just means ending every single series and restarting them from #1 just to meet the autism quota(Marvel NOW).
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>just like in the movies
what did she mean by this?
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>>67898888
Right... so you posted Carrie Kelley, is that the joke?
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I love DC Animated movies but I feel like they are going to ruin the Killing Joke.

It's animation styles seems a bit lazy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7-f5PSZNfg
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>>67898946
People also think this is a new thing. it's been going on since the 60s when Golden Age Flash and Green lantern who reserved for Earth-2
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>>67898964
Better video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueCJWmvyn78
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>>67898959
nah, just didnt have a raven pic on my desktop. shouldve specified pic not related lol

though that was a good one too, wonder if theyll go with her for robin in batfleck stand alones
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hope they make a movie series with teen titans and hope they revive young justice
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>>67898964
It looks exactly like the novel
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>>67891078
zatanna is first
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>>67898996
Exactly, it's not a recent thing.

Crisis on Infinite Earths, for example, is considered to be one of the greatest DC stories of all time, and it was literally just a way of rebooting the DC Universe.
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>>67890371
I am so fucking sick of DC shoving Damien Wayne down our throats.
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>>67899055
did you want some dick instead?
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>>67898822
>That Terry was ALWAYS supposed to be Batman?

The whole episode was about averting that idea. Bruce tried to "engineer" Terry to be his replacement but failed. He tries to clone himself, but winds up with a son instead, who isn't a copy of himself. He tried to hire the Phantasm to kill Terry's parents to "replicate" his origins, but she grew a heart and refused.

Bruce liked to think he was the master puppeteer who controlled everything, and Terry believed that and hated him a bit for it. But his encounter with Waller convinced him it wasn't true. He was his own person with his own life and beliefs and choices. He became Batman, yes, but because he wanted to, not because Bruce did.

Like Waller said, "You're not Bruce's clone; you're his son."

Also the sequence with Ace is great.
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>>67899037
hum reggin
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>>67897729
>>67898213

Do you mean it's distracting your dick?
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>>67898888
Sorry, you'll need to explain the joke.
Why say Raven is the best when posting Carrie Kelley - the actual best?
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>>67899055
If it weren't Damien Wayne, it would just be someone else. We could have Tim Drake still being Robin into his fucking 20s. We could have Harper Row being her insufferable fedora-tipping self.

After looking at the alternatives, Damien's really not that bad.
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>>67899019
>Wonder if they'll go with her for Robin in Batfleck standalones

Ugh no thank you. I don't like Carrie Kelly very much. Even if you do like her, she's a very specific product of Dark Knight Returns.

If you need to have more women, maybe have Barbara Gordon in there.
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>>67899089

>The whole episode was about averting that idea.

But it's still there. He's still a fucking cuck clone of Bruce. Right down to his fucking DNA he's a fucking cuck clone of Batman and it is an awful concept, no matter how they try to spin that he's his own man.
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>>67899030
It's bound to be more complicated and have more filler than the book.

People who are excited for this movie seem to forget just how short Killing Joke was.
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>>67899171
or kate
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>>67899013
>mark hamill is joker again
yes
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>>67899089
The episode still would have worked if Waller had used another family for her idea then had Andrea refuse to kill that kid. then despite all the odds Terry's story happens that way and she explains how Bruce sees him as a son now instead of being his actual son.
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>>67898946
Except the biggest reason why new readers don't want to start off from #1 is they've heard there's been a million continuity reboots between then and the present that make those early ones redundant.

If I'm a casual that's in love with say Raven from the show then I just want to read her CANONICAL story from start to finish without any alternate universe time travel BS.
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>>67899187

>He's still a fucking cuck clone of Bruce. Right down to his fucking DNA

Mr. McGinnis may have been cucked, but Terry is still half his mother. He's not genetically identical to Bruce. You could argue he's a bizarre case of artificial insemination, but he's a natural-born human being with a mix of both his parent's DNA.

I will correct one thing. Bruce didn't hire the Phantasm; Waller did, but still, same end result.
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>>67899341
>Except the biggest reason why new readers don't want to start off from #1 is they've heard there's been a million continuity reboots between then and the present
They do want to start from #1 though, especially when it comes to DC since DC doesn't like to have recaps at the beginning of their issues.

>I just want to read her CANONICAL story from start to finish without any alternate universe time travel BS.
Her CANONICAL story includes alternate universe time travel BS. If you want to read her story from her very first appearance, then the alternate universe time travel BS is part of that and you either need to accept it or stop reading.

If you want to read Raven's CANONICAL story without the alternate universe time travel BS, then you can't start from her first appearance. You have to start from whatever the most recent #1 is that features her.

You use the word CANONICAL, but I don't think you understand it. Whatever is currently canon is canon. It's just as much CANONICAL as her older stories were during the time that they were being released. In that sense, canon is subjective.
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>>67899171
Yeah I can see Babs working. Especially in a movie where they can spend some time on her relationship with her pop.
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>>67890371
Marvel cinematic universe is better because film is a medium for adults and Marvel is better at appealing to gainfully employed mature viewers with real life problems. DC animated is better because cartoons are for children and DC is better at appealing to NEET manchildren with no real problems and a power fantasy.
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>>67899669
jobs are for adults, movies are for young adults
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>>67890570
See
>>67890991
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>>67899669

Take a (You).
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>>67899669
Here's to (You)
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>>67899651

Plus, Robin is dead, and presumably it's the second Robin. Makes a convenient reason for Batgirl to be his current partner.

That reminds me; I'm not actually that familiar with Babs's tenure as Batgirl; did she go out crime fighting with Batman like a girl Robin or was she her own thing?
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>>67899669 (you)
this
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>>67899089
It was all Waller. Bruce had nothing to do with it.
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oh one thing i was curious about and hopefully someone can answer this for me...

how does cyborg fit into everything?

since he is part of the teen titans in the series

yet in the movies his origins have him immediately joining the justice league, so obviously a bit older and having never met them (it seems) til this movie

also starfire is really that much older than the rest of em? is that the same case for the cartoon? i do like how it played with her and gray sons relationship though, because hes the robin that was in the titans cartoon right?

but thats a little funny to me too because if thats the case he doesnt really act all that happy to see the others (bb, raven etc)

i guess im just really confused as to how the teen titans cartoon fits into the timeline of the universe as a whole, and teen titans go
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>>67900221
It doesn't. These movies erased all of the old DCAU.
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>>67900221
>Cyborg

Which movie are you talking about, BvS?

I honestly think they're using him for two reasons: 1) he's not an alien and 2) he's black.

Most of the other prominent Justice League characters are aliens or connected to aliens; Hawkgirl and Martian Manhunter were aliens in JL (I know Hawkgirl goes back and forth on this) and Green Lantern is inextricably tied to aliens.

The DCEU is very much playing up the "Superman is the first alien" idea, so they're using Earth-tied heroes. WW, Aquaman and Flash are easy, but then the roster gets shakier and you have to go to lesser-known heroes like Captain Atom or Black Canary. Cyborg is just known enough due to being on Teen Titans, he makes an in for the Mother Boxes, and he's black, so he helps diversify the cast.
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>>67900221
The New 52 which presumably the movie universe is trying to copy had Cyborg be a founding member of the Justice League.

Also you can't look at the TT series as aprt of any canon but it's own Go isn't even the same thing. The only thing that follow a continuity is,

Batman TAS
Adventures of Batman and Robin
New Batman Adventures
Superman TAS
Justice League
Justice League Unlimited

Mask of the Phantasm, Sub Zero, Return of the Joker, and Mystery of the Batwoman are all tie in feature films.


The movie in OP is following a flimsy attempt starting with Flashpoint paradox which lea dinto JL: War
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>>67900221
the series and the movies are two on each other independent universes...

>because hes the robin that was in the titans cartoon right?
No, the series and the movies are two on each other independent universes...
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>>67890371
Marvel = decent live action
DC = decent cartoons

It's all about balance.
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>>67899188
Don't worry, they will invest time in making Babs stronk woman.
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>>67891226
Slutfire is just ridiculous. Yeah, she's hot but so what? It's like that time when Raven wore a thong and showed her terrible tribal tramp stamp. Still gonna go with the dark hooded Raven.
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>>67897401
>Batman: Year One (with Bryan Cranston as Gordon) and Dark Knight Returns are still where it's at.

what is? Both of those are for lazy fucks not interested enough in actual comics, but interested in knowing the story so they can speculate about live action movies and seem as on top of it.

Justice League: Gods and Monsters gets a thumb up for being a fucking original story!
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>>67900642
>It's like that time when Raven wore a thong and showed her terrible tribal tramp stamp. Still gonna go with the dark hooded Raven.

Shadbase is that you?
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>>67895624
I'm pretty sure all magical girls shows imitated Go Nagai's Cutey Honey
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>>67900733
>Shadbase is that you?
Fuck no.

I swear I read a Teen Titans comic where this Raven showed up.
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>>67900440
Soo.. why didn't they just invent a new black hero instead of fucking around with old ones?
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>>67900658
lol that one was funny

mexican superman

dexter as batman
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>>67900658
>Justice League: Gods and Monsters gets a thumb up for being a fucking original story!

>that Orion and Bekka story
>traitorous New Gods ruin everything

I was so crushed, Orion did nothing wrong
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>>67900787
It would be a really stupid move on artist's part to create a brand new hero for big reboot of Justice League, which is something that guarantees popularity.
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>>67900888
>My waifu ruined
FUUCK YOU DC
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>>67900513
>>67900465
>>67900391
man thats really disappointing.

i wish it all fit together, more fun, less confusing.

oh well though thats good too in a way, titans is its own stand alone thing that can be enjoyed separately.
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>>67900787

Are you implying they changed Cyborg to black? He's always been black. It's not a Black Jimmy Olsen situation.
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>>67900948
TT series has never been part of DCAU.Which is obvious thanks to Robin.
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>>67900787
>Soo.. why didn't they just invent a new black hero

Because even if it's a shitty diversity move lots of regular people know Cyborg from the Teen Titans TV show, introducing literally who for the first time wouldn't sell comics, not to mention they'd be snubbing all the other black heroes they have like uh....Black Lighting and Jogn Stewart Lantern.

What's REALLY stupid is kicking out Martian Manhunter who has been a Justice LEague staple since forever, he's been on the justice league longer than Superman and Wonder woman even.
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>>67900981

I think there was a very tenuous link. Static Shock was part of the DCAU, and I think at one point he meets Batman, and when asked about Robin, he says he's "with the Titans".
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>>67900787
Should have been Mr. Terrific but no even he wasn't "progressive" enough, they had to turn him gay. Nothing wrong with that but they pulled the whole 'HEY HE'S GAY NOW LIKE US" advertisement.
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>>67900926
She's just expressing herself, bro.
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>>67901130
being with the titans does not mean the TT cartoon.
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>>67901136

He's only gay on Arrow and the name's are different, don't forget they made alan Scott a poofy puffer too

>weakness is wood

boy they sure were on the nose with that.
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>>67890371
>watch TT and think starfire is a total qt patootie
>find out she a total whorebag in very other media

Fuck capeshit man
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>>67901023
>John Stewart
>Martian Manhunter

Green Lantern and MM are inescapably extraterrestrial (the Corps are, anyway). Superman is the first alien in the DCEU, so it wouldn't fit right if Luthor had files on confirmed extraterrestrial influence on Earth before Superman - or he'd be obsessed with them instead.

I hope they bring both those characters in, but it's probably wiser to wait a bit.
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>>67900642
I don't mind that she's a slut. She's always been a slut. I mind that she's a SLUT. When she was super promiscuous because she loved them deeply and wanted to express it physically she was showing little ladies a healthy, positive attitude that's good for their mental health and their sexual market value. When they changed it to she just likes sex, and will have it nonchalantly with anyone at any time with no concern at all for who it might hurt it's a twelve year old boy's masturbatory fantasy at best and guideline for societal collapse at worst.
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>>67890371
>>>/co/
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>>67901174

No, not the cartoon itself, but it suggests the existence of the Titans and thus Cyborg in it. Not definitively of course, just a suggestion.
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>>67901236
Goyer said he refuse to bring in MM because it's too far fetched and his fans "need to get laid"

Goyer is the true blight on the movie universe.
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>>67901236

I was talking in terms of the comics mostly, this was WAY back in 2011 before Man of Steel and BvS was a thing.
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>>67901310
>Goyer said he refuse to bring in MM because it's too far fetched and his fans "need to get laid"

I refuse to believe this, that must be a joke.
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>>67890371
That new design for Raven is sexy as fuck.

Would have 1/4th demon babies with her.
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>>67901267

This. It's the difference between "I'm free to have sex with anyone I want if we have a good relationship, even if it's casual" and "I'm an empowered woman and I fuck all the boys cuz I can and fuck you if you don't like it"
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>>67901381

>only saving grace on Supergirl
>that probably going to be canceled thanks to its Hellcats moments

Whelp
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>>67901388
I'm an SD guy myself
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>>67901369
http://www.themarysue.com/david-goyer-calls-she-hulk-sex-fantasy/

Read about half way down
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>>67901023
If he's in the Justice League he sells more Justice League comics.
If he's in the Titans he sells more Titan comics.
Either way he's roughly selling the same amount of comics.

Besides every character that gains any popularity was a literal who once. If they do catch on then great, you can flesh them out later. If they don't catch on, great, they're good targets to be killed off dramatic storyline purposes.
>>67900949
No, I know he's always been black. He just hasn't always been a part of the Justice League. If they only changed his race that would bother me less.
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>>67901165
Expressing herself as dropped.
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