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Now that the dust has settled and the DVD will be out in a few days, can we all agree that this guy was the worst part of the movie?
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>>67811402

But you said yesterday he was the best part, why are you lying?!?!
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>>67811402
That isn't Carrie Fisher
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Thats not Daisy Ridley or Cary Fisher....
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>>67811402
That's not Rey.

Fin was alright. I mean he looks weird as fuck, but there's also a ton of CG aliens so w/e.
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>>67811516
Daisy Ridley was all right
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>>67811402

>DVD

Bitch it is 2016, no one buys DVDs anymore. It's Blu-Ray or nothing.
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>>67811402
He was one of the surprisingly redeeming aspects of the film though.
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He was fine.
Carrie Fisher was bad
The character of Rey was bad but Daisy was fine
CGI nignog was stupid
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All of the new cast was great and most people who say otherwise have retarded kneejerk reactions to them

>hurr durr nigger lead
>hurr durr girl in muh Star Wars must be ess jay double yous
>hurr durr Kylo Ren doesn't look like a badass he sucks!
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>>67811546
Just because you want to fuck her doesn't mean her acting was any good.
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>>67811533
>I mean he looks weird as fuck, but there's also a ton of CG aliens so w/e.
He does look weird as fuck, but that isn't the reason he's a terrible fucking actor. He just can't ACT .

Every time he was on screen, it was nothing but terribly delivered dialogue and cringey bro-shit.
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>>67811598
Just because he was black doesn't mean his acting wasn't any good
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>>67811588
CGI nignog?
Thats real, some of them really look like that.
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>>67811598
>doesn't mean her acting was any good
provide examples
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Find a flaw
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>>67811402
But he's not the writing, lack of proper context, stupid monster diversion that pads the movie's length, OR the lack of a meaningful character arc for the main character.
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>>67811598
Her facials expressions & emotions were top tier anon.
I actually felt as if I wanted to hold her. Now that's acting
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>>67811639
>>67811589
>you dont think he's a good actor you must be racist

nice strawman there faggots
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Rey was the worst, but he was pretty bad.

That movie was fucking shit, I wish Poe was the protag.
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Let's be honest, everything about this movie was bad.

I personally liked Kylo Ren tho, he nailed that edgy school shooter vibe.
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>>67811670
That's not my hand.
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>>67811656
Some of them; others look different
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The whole movie was shit.

Where was the Sheev spins? Who had the high ground?

All these questions and more answered in episode 8
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>>67811738
>Let's be honest, everything about this movie was bad.
That's not being honest, that's being hyperbolic.
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>>67811738
Having seen it in context right after the original trilogy, it fits with the other movies in terms of quality pretty well.
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>>67811402
Finn was great. I liked him. Maz was the worst part.

Rey was "meh" because of the terrible way she was written, not because of Daisy Ridley.

Poe was great.
Han was great.
Leia was a corpse.
Luke was on screen for 2 seconds.

The real stand-out is Kylo Ren who was fucking fantastic. Everyone else, including Andy Serkis is completely disposable.
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>>67811402
Poe >> Finn >>>>>> Rey
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>>67811697
Next movie will have more of Poe and Fin and their relationship.
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>>67811892
Dude Star Wars will completely tank if they make them gay. Blacks & Asians hate homos.
Do you really think Disney is going to experiment with so much progressiveness in one of their biggest money makers?
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This one was worse than dex dexter or whatever his name was
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>>67811682
This. I'd say the acting overall was much better than SW average.
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>>67811402
Most people had trouble placing the character's decision making.

Usually, if we're ahead of a character's realizations and decisions, it's fine ... It's just a form of dramatic irony, but with this the audience is trailing Finn's decision making. He makes all the 'right' decisions, but there's no word on who he is or why he comes to them.

I think the mass marketing technique of using intertextuality to sell a movie in a safe way actually works as a business strategy, yet it's so dull to watch on screen.

https://youtu.be/oHB2rGtg1uo
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>>67811997
I hate her design
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>>67811635
how else do you deliver dialogue?
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>>67811997
Why isn't this character getting more hate from normies who hate the prequels? Dexter was a shitty plot device used in a crappy setting and Maz is the exact same thing.
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>>67811778
>>67811738
its not hyperbole. he isn't even wrong, either. the movie was just bad.

you go in expecting JJ Abrams to rape the franchise like he did with star trek, but at the very least put out a watchable/entertaining movie. the new trek films are horible star trek movies, but pretty decent sci-fi/action movies. the prequels were the opposite of that. generally bad movies, but good star wars movies.

ep 8 is just one awkward, cringeworthy scene after another. some of the visuals were nicely done, but it doesn't make up for a terrible everything else.

it blows my fucking mind that they can put people in charge of one of the most successful movie franchises in history and still manage to create a film full of shit that just doesn't make sense.
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>>67812111
>good star wars movies.
>prequels

No.
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>>67812111
>this movie is bad because I say it is and I'm not going to provide any reasons why because vague generic buzzwords

fuck off, faggot. why do people say JJ "raped" Star Trek? The series was dead and buried in the cinema after Insurrection and Nemesis and dead on TV after Enterprise. He saved the franchise.

and TFA felt more like a Star Wars film than the prequels, fuck off. The OT was a fun space adventure with charismatic, relatable characters. The prequels were boring space politics with boring robots for main characters
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>>67811997
The reason her design was so shitty is that they originally had her as a puppet, but they had to make it CGI after Harrison Ford broke his leg and fucked up the entire schedule.
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>>67811402

watching this movie made me realize how much carrie fischer's role in the OT was based alot on her sex appeal - i don't mean that she coudn't act, or that she was just eye candy, but her attaction and pretty/cuteness was a real draw and addition to her natural charisma.

the scenes in the OT with sexual tension between hans and leia (and luke), and why luke wanted to find her - and her, and her sassiness generally, was indissolubly linked to her sexiness which sprung from her being.

the scene in FA between hans and her was forced, and not only due to their rough acting skills which have declined, and poor direction on human interaction by JJ abrams (who is only good at action and quips), the justification for their supposed love was wholly lacking, as there seemed to be no sexual tension just a nostalgia
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Rey was miscast.

I don't think Daisy Ridley is a terrible actress but she doesn't work for me as someone who's supposed to be a tough, tech-savy scavenger who lives alone in the desert.

She's too stiff and school girl-y for the role.
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I'm just glad Star Wars is fun again. The plot could've been better, but at least you can see the passion from everybody involved.
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>>67812108
>>67812095
she's not getting more hate because everyone forgot about her. there's too much shit in the movie.
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FUCKIN TOURISTS AND CROSSPOSTERS SPAMING THESE POINTLESS "NOW THAT THE DUST SETTLED CAN WE ALL AGREE" THREADS, IT'S /TV/ WE NEVER AGREE AND THE DUST IS CONSTANLY IN THE AIR YOU FUCKING PLEBOID FUCK
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>>67812209
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>>67812111
This is absurdly hyperbolic. You're exaggerating your negative reaction in order to counteract what you perceive to be an unmerited positive reception. It's not that bad. It really isn't. It's a competent, if boring film. It's well-acted, well-shot, generally well-directed. It's a 7/10, which is a huge step up from the prequels.
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>>67812208
just like my chinese cartoons
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>>67812272
Back to /v/.
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>>67812277
She looks like a Disney princess.
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>>67811402
I think what makes Poe and Finn potentially great characters is that they're gate crashing on the characters that are so entrenched and established.

What works about them is that they have no previous connections and they aren't obliged to behave in a firmly pre-established way.

This could be taken advantage of in order to provide commentary on characters that are living pre-established lives, or it could be scuttled by making Poe and FN related to someone who's come before.
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>>67812208
She's also Luke's Daughter who was raised by a bunch of desert folks, yet speaks with a British accent.

It would have made more sense for Fin to keep his British accent.

>>67812209
I honestly didn't want to like this movie. And it has its problems but I enjoyed it so much more than the prequels.
The prequels had a lot of cool and actually original ideas, but the dialog and story were just retarded.
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Guys honestly I'm kinda surprised people didn't talk more about how bad Harrison Ford was. His facial expressions were so weird and forced, you could tell he really didn't want to be there in like every scene
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>>67812344
Are you kidding? It's the best he's been in forever.
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>>67812208
Sometimes she looks too much like a little girl.
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>>67812368
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>>67812344
nah mate you're thinking of Carrie "No, not planet Cocainium" Fisher
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>>67812277
>>67812447

CONSIDERED 10/10 IN BONGLAND
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>>67811997
>dex dexter
Who?
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>>67812488
well, yeah
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>>67812208
abrams mistake was he wanted to hire a nobody for the role
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>>67812549
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>>67812488
Please post a picture of yourself with your eyes half open, and your mouth in the process of forming words.
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I'm just gonna say it, but i thought the prequels were better then this......
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>>67811997

OBI WAAAAAAAAN
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>>67812569
I wonder what her butt smells like
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>>67812693
last nights dinner
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>>67811402
Jar Jar Binks tier.
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>>67812693
like roses
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>>67812646
Nice meme bro. Now /tv/ will accept you
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>>67812569
c u t e !
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I'm glad /tv/ has finally seen the light and acknowledges that he is best boi
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>>67812646
>then

thanks for letting us know you're both wrong AND uneducated
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>>67812765
No problam.
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>tfw you're really an android...
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>"REAL SETS... PRACTICAL EFFECTS..."
>Maz Kanata is 100% GCI
>Snoke is 100% GCI

Bravo, Disney!
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>>67811678
Seconded
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>>67811678
Nice job elaborating on your nebulous critiques.

>monster diversion
You mean the first time we see Han Solo be Han Solo? He's a smuggler, and this is the first time we see him smuggle.
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Ep7 was the worst star wars movie of all.
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>>67812493
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>>67813098
What an odd way to spell "best"
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>>67812856
There were still more real practical effects and sets than the prequels

Maz, at the very least, was intended to be a puppet but they couldn't agree on a design or get the puppet to do what they wanted with the facial expressions so they decided on CGI. At the very least, they had the decency to do motion capture instead of having the actors talk to a green screen like George did.

>>67813098
what kind of mental gymnastics do you have to do to come to this conclusion? Let me guess, you have some kind of agenda like "hurr durr nigger character' or "le jews stole star wars from le artistic genius George Lucas"
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>>67811961
You make it seem like niggers are a strong pull for box office gross in the first place.
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What's Finn's favourite scary movie?

https://youtu.be/y5DtdXOky_8
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>>67811402
You forgot about Rey, retard.
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>>67811639
His acting was terrible regardless of his shitskin. I get the impression most people think that everybody outside of Ford, Driver, and Oscar were fucking terrible.
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No one mention Hux? Domhnall Gleeson was terrible
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>>67813216
Are you kidding? He played "snivelling coward armchair general who makes up for lack of experience with fanatical extremism" great.

His dynamic with Kylo in that they don't really like each other and are competing for Snoke-senpai's attention was a nice touch, too.
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>>67813216
I actually thought that speech was fun. I love me some over the top acting
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>>67813255
kylo is going to get so gingered next movie
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>>67813166
Yes of course they're not..they just cast Boyega for no reason.
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>>67811697
all of poe's lines were cringy. He delivered them awfully. No hint of concern.
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>>67813319
or maybe it was because JJ Abrams and Kathleen Kennedy thought he was the best man for the job? He's a classically trained actor, faggot.

You just assume because he's black that's the only reason he got the role and that "stole" a job from a white actor
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>>67811402
90% of his performance consisted of sweating, coughing and running away. I think he did that fine. He lacked personality and development, but since he was reduced to a sidekick anyway that didn't matter.
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>>67813335
>So uhh, who will begin speaking before the other person begins speaking?
Yeah it was shit, but Obi Wan had a few lines like that in the PT.
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>>67813151
Why does it have to be the nig nogs or differen't director, when someone doesn't like this movie?
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>>67813365
I never said he wasn't a good actor, I actually though he & Rey were both fine as leads.
I'm pretty sure they actually thought about leaning towards a minority/female when it came to picking the leads though not that I have a problem with that either.
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>>67813397
>who will begin speaking

Why do people get so fucking sperged out by that line? Kylo just drops down on his knees and stares at Poe. It's fucking weird. For him to say "who talks first" is a perfectly valid reaction given the character.

but of course you faggots are all like "HURR DURR LE MARVEL MEME QUIPS THIS ISN'T STAR WARS THIS IS REDDIT REEEEEEEEE"
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>>67813466
Gonna need a tl;dr on this, niglips.
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>>67813466
> a perfectly valid reaction given the character.
Yes there's nothing like giving sarcasm to someone you just saw slaughter someone and stop a lazer in mid-air.
Perfectly valid response
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>make a character with a cool background where you can explore growing up as a storm trooper and the side effects of watching a genocide happen in your face
>throw that all away and make him the shitty comic relief side character

BRAVO JJ
R
A
V
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J
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>>67813575
>shitty comic relief side character
So I see you didn't watch the movie. Good to know.
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>>67813466
Because it is massively out of tone and practically a bit of metahumor line for the franchise.
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>>67811402
Death Star III desu
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>>67813561
>>67813613
because Han Solo never delivered a quip when facing certain death
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>>67813609
I just watched it last week when it was free, he got pushed to the side and was only used for relief until he got injured during the final fight
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>>67813561
He was nervous, people react to anxiety in various ways, one of them being sarcasm. It helps alleviate the tension they are feeling
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>>67811402
Is already a trailer out for episode VIII or at least the title or something.
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If you didn't smile during the Falcon reveal you literally have no soul
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>>67813701
Didn't they just start shooting it?
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>>67811402
No
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>>67811402
Star Wars was 10/10.
Stop trying to find flaws.

Post qts instead.
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>>67813255
Snoke should have been a female character. Think about it. Having to suck up to mommy would play up the sibling rivalry aspect of their relationship well
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>>67813840
he was originally a female
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>make sexy female storm trooper officer
>literally throw her in the trash before she gets a chance to do anything

Epic, simply eric
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>>67813760
Isn't it supposed to come out this year?
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>>67811402
no, the affirmative action monkey was surprisingly one of the better parts of the movie

marey sue was by far the worst part of the movie
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>>67813840
That's a great idea.
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>>67813917
No, thats rogue 1
Which, disappointingly, is not a movie about Based Wedge
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>>67813917
No
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>>67812693
barbied shrimp
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>>67811670
>piranha teeth
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>>67811402
Enthusiastic negro was pretty decent.
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>movie only has ugly human women in it
>no sexy orange or blue alien women

Fuck this gay galaxy
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What will be Rey's struggle in VIII?
Will she continue to be a Mary Sue?
Will Luke refuse to teach her?
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>>67814080
>no sexy orange
That yoda knockoff chick made blood flow to my genitalia, if only for a brief second.
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>>67813986
wedge's actor said he won't come back to star wars. It's weird because he's a nobody, so he should be desperate for money.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denis_Lawson
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>>67811546
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>>67814080
Fuck off furry
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>>67813892
They should have fucking done that. Cast Tilda Swinton in the role. Have scenes where she gets angry and goes all boss mode like Galadriel in Fellowship of the Ring.
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>>67814093
she will struggle to learn new force powers. That's literally the only thing they can do. Or struggle to learn retconned force powers. They wrote themselves into a corner since they were pressured to appeal to feminist/sjw BS.
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>>67814093
bringing her cousin back to light
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>>67813986
>>67813998

Right. I'm not really interested in the Spin-off movies.
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>>67814093
My guess is Luke will refuse to train her for like half of the movie then he finally agrees then she becomes the strongest jedi ever after 4 days of training to leave the planet and conveniently show up in time to save the rebellion
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>>67814151
fuck off faggot
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>>67814093
It would be more interesting if Leia had already taught her how to make use of the Force.

Luke should train Kylo or something.
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>>67814151
I'm glad they continued the fat acceptance trend with a fat male pilot again. However there was no fat female pilot.
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>>67814080
I blame Kathleen Kennedy. JJ's Trek had plenty of hot alien women in them
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>>67814151
being called a furry is an insult
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If Rey's Jedi Master was Leia, then it would all make some sense.

Then we'd know why she was so interested in meeting Han Solo.
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>>67814093
She will kill Snoke with the power of friendship.
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It literally looks like she's balding
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>>67812693
Xenomorph shit.
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>>67814347
female mirrin on the left

>>67814396
female bongs do that, see; sansa
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>>67814317
>Then we'd know why she was so interested in meeting Han Solo.
She was interested because of the legend surrounding him. She was obsessed with the rebellion, hence the rebel doll and helmet she had in her home.
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>>67814139
>he's a nobody, so he should be desperate for money
thank you
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>>67814347
she looks a little pudgier here, I know she had to get in shape for the role but I think she's sexier like this. More hips and ass
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>>67814396
It's called a high forehead bruh. It used to be considered an attractive quality, hence the term highbrow.
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>>67812549
Maisie looks fine. I don't know wtf is up with that thing on the left though.
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>>67814093
>What will be Rey's struggle in VIII?
Try not to get raped by Kylo. He'll be pissed and obsessed in finding her.
>Will she continue to be a Mary Sue?
That depends on Rian.
>Will Luke refuse to teach her?
I don't see why he'll refuse.
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>>67814595
>Try not to get raped by Kylo.

is that the nigger?
lol, nigger rape joke.
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>>67814595
>I don't see why he'll refuse.

The last time he trained someone they did a Columbine so I'm sure they'll make him not want to train her for a little bit to build up the plot
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>>67811402

I quite liked the character.
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>>67812693
Guy on the right is bending down to find out
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>>67813335
>Well my droid is pal! It's a BB unit orange and white one of a kind.
>IM GONNA CALL YOU FINN WE'RE FRIENDS NOW
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>>67814093

She's probably going to train luke desu, with all her mary sue powers.
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>>67814689
>I hate fun 80s cheese
The movie was a throwback
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>>67814725
WHATEVER YOU SAY, PAL
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>>67814519
>hence the term highbrow.
Wow, you're a fucking retard
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>>67814093
Who's the lewd girl with her hand on Daisy's midriff?
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>>67814093
She should smile like this more often to hide her xeno teeth.
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>>67814749
Look up the etymology of the term. People thought that a higher brow indicated intelligence and sophistication, which were desirable qualities. It's a phrenology thing.
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>>67811402
Nah, every new character was good.
This guy made me laugh out loud a few times in the scenes with the tiny robot.
fuck off.
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>>67811402
Yeah fucking shit character. Every time he opened his mouth some shitty joke came out.

Dislike the actor as well. Seems really annoying.
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>>67814896
>>>/pol/
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>>67814768
some bitch
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>>67814896
>>>/pol/
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>>67814991
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>>67812856
Episode 10 will be anime
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>>67814991
She has her entire hand wrapped around poor Daisy. Thirsty bitch
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>>67814991
>jew nose

What a shame.
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>>67814991
You JUST know.
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>>67811402
He was actually one of the better parts of the movie. I think the exposition on him wasn't the best, but as far as characters go, he was the most tolerable.
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>>67812693
who cares about the smell, imagine the TASTE!
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>>67811402
>not Rey
Fuck off.
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>>67813840
I actually agree
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>>67813365
JJ literally said he casts for diversity above all else. Keep telling yourself otherwise.
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>>67811402

Its already out on torrent. Got it last night and will be watching it with my family later this evening.
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>>67816013
keep me posted
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Finn's allright character
Only problem I got is that he went full bix nod shortly after breaking free from the First Order
I'd like it better if Boyega acted more like an actual Stormtrooper.
I mean, Finn's supposed to have been brainwashed and trained for the most part of his life. I haven't seen any stormtrooper acting like a black high schooler
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>>67814476
Yeah, but where did she hear about the Han Solo legend? She could have gotten it straight from Leia.

Let's say Rey's family broke up her training with Leia, and dropped her off at Jakku.

At the same time, the First Order was busy testing the reliability of a new FN-series of android, which was inducted into the Rebellion with the aid of their spies.

In the next episode, maybe a virus takes over FN and C-3PO.
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>>67816070
>Yeah, but where did she hear about the Han Solo legend?
they should've established her being friends with Max von Sydow's character. He's the guy who knew about legends and personally knew Leia.
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>>67816070
She heard about Han the same way she heard about Luke and the Force: through stories. She worked with other people, she wasn't isolated from the rest of humanity.
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>>67816031
Yeah, that was one of my gripes.
He's supposed to be a storm trooper that was indoctrinated from birth, yet when he leaves he's suddenly able to integrate into society and act normal around other people like nothing.
Doesn't make sense.
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I will never, for the life of me, understand the hate this movie gets on /tv/. It's better than 99% of high budget trash. What did people expect?
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>>67816636
Something new instead of a safe rehash of the original trilogy
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>>67816608
He was a janitor. He probably acted the same way in the First Order canteen. Even brainwashed soldiers act like human beings.
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>>67816710
>safe rehash of the original trilogy
That rehash was the thematic point of the movie. The characters in the movie perceive the events of the OT the same way the audience does; the repeating motifs were intentional.
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>>67816714
>He was a janitor
Where is this coming from?
I read he was one of brightest and best stormptroopers in his unit. The only problem Phasma had with him was his empathy.
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>black """"""""""""""""person""""""""""""""""""
>expecting the movie to be good
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>>67816779
>>He was a janitor
>Where is this coming from?

Did you not watch the movie? He even said his job was sanitation when they got on the planet and the opening scene was his first taste of real combat so I don't see how he was the best
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>>67816710
I bet you're the kind of faggot who says "well at least the prequels were original!!!!"

>>67816714
>>67816779
He was in sanitation when he was on Starkiller Base, but this makes people think he was some kind of shit soldier. In almost every military they start you off doing menial jobs just to build discipline. According to Phasma in the movie his breakdown on Jakku was the first time he had ever had a problem and was otherwise a model soldier.
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>>67816779
HE LITERALLY SAYS IT IN THE MOVIE
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>>67816822
>>67816858
>Finn was also once in charge of sanitation duties
>ONCE
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>>67816851
If you pick janny as your job in the military you're always going to be a janny unless if you reclass
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>>67816899
>Han Solo: What was your job kid?
>Finn: Sanitation

If that was his duty once he wouldn't have said that was his actual job
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>>67816899
When did he say once?
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>>67816901
I'm some autist who's never ever going to have what it takes to be in the military, but aren't you generally assigned jobs during training? Like they have you cleaning the barracks and shit?

Considering the mission on Jakku is stated to be Finn's first combat assignment, I assumed janny duties on Starkiller was just something he was doing in training.
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>>67816927
>>67816940
Wikipedia is never wrong

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Finn
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>>67811402
they did not pick that ugly fucking monkey because of his looks,they picked him because of JEWS
but his accent was perfect for the starwars universe as it was the only thing that made sense.
seriously a perfect outer rim accent and made me believe he was a space didnu.
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>>67816995
>his accent was perfect
>the only thing that made sense.
That's funny considering he faked an American accent the entire time you dumb fuck.
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>>67816851
>the prequels were original!!!!"
They were
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>>67816977
Yeah they have details of "clean this and that" then you get back to doing real work but Finn said outright that it was his actual job
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>>67817023
>fucking implying

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7ZW1gtCljs

there's more blatant rip-offery in the prequels, and it's done just for the sake of HURR DURR REMEMBER THAT instead of a thematic point in TFA, where the characters are literally living in the shadow of Galactic Civil War
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>>67816995
Do you have a single piece of evidence to back that up.
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>>67816989
>once in charge
I don't know if English if your first language, but that phrase doesn't literally mean just once. It means at one point in time, as in once upon a time.
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>>67816822
The only people who think he was a janitor, are casuals plebeians who only have the film as source material.
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>>67811402
comic-relief is dead
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>>67817023
Episode 1 was more of a remake of Episode 4 than TFA was. Remember the "it's poetry, it rhymes" meme?
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>>67811570
>buying Blu-Ray

Bitch it is 2016, no one buys Blu-Ray anymore. It's torrent or nothing.
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>>67817075
>the movie isn't canon

Love this meme
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>>67817018
America was not around long long ago in a galaxy far you are a faggot,ofc we knew he was a bong you idiot but the point still stands that he made the audience believe it was set in space.
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>>67811997

Can anyone explain to me why this character wasn't Lando instead???
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>>67817060
it was perfect and pretty much the only good thing apart from TR-8R,no one likes niggers but at least he did a half decent job on the accent.
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>>67817099
It provides more backstory and depth, not just "I'm in sanitation" so he must be le janitor.
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>>67816760
It's actually more fun to review it in the post game than it is to watch. Everyone saw TFA differently.

It's such a densely intertextual movie that it forces you to think back to the OT references in order to enjoy it, yet it's also a very indecisive movie, by design.

I think the narrative could have been much more openly intertextual ...more like the plot of a Whodunnit than a Mapquest.
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>>67817244
>it forces you to think back to the OT references in order to enjoy it

Half of the movie is just "haha, remember THIS from the original trilogy" that's not really thinking
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I dislike several script decisions, but the actors were generally fine.

- democratization of lightsabers (suddenly everyone seems to be able to use one?!?)
- girl learns to use force all by herself, as if she had a mimikry force talent
- Han only learns after three decades that the bowcaster is strong? Really???
- TIE attack on the cantina spares the Millennium Falcon on the ground?!?
- Still TIE Fighters and X-Wings? Not even facelifts? The SW fans have become used to advanced starfighter models. They should at least have used visibly modernised X-Wings and TIE Advanced models.
- Why didn't Finn see the pilot's footsteps on the soft soil, leading away from the wreck?
- Why wasn't Han Solo's big freighter introduced a bit better, and why did it look so terrible inside?
- Yet another super weapon. Yawn. And it destroys a planet or star a gazillion of lightyears away in a minute or so. That's lazy writing. Why not at least an Eclipse-like super star destroyer unfinished on the ground of a remote world? Including a dramatic take-off from the world, as as SSD took off from Coruscant in one of the novels? MUCH better idea.
- Why was the "First Order" not introduced better? There are several meanings for the word "order", it's not even clear which one applies!


I blame the director for this, for the director has to ensure the story makes sense (at least within Sci Fi genre requirements)
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>>67817244
stop fucking typing with those fucking line breaks you total 100% cunt.just stop it.
you are not saving paper arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh stop it you reddit fucks.
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>>67817385
>- Why didn't Finn see the pilot's footsteps on the soft soil, leading away from the wreck?

Not defending the dumb movie but they woke up hours apart from each other and the wind in the desert covers up footprints extremely fast
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>>67817385
Most of this is autistic nonsense, but this
>democratization of lightsabers (suddenly everyone seems to be able to use one?!?)
is especially retarded. Lightsabers are just laser swords. Anyone can use them. Finn was competent with it because he had combat training as a stormtrooper.
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>>67817543
so you saying he left finndu to die in the desert with his favorite jacket?
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>>67817620
They said that he woke up at night and he'd have no way to find Finn in the desert other than getting lucky even if they were pretty close because the only way that he found the tie fighter was the smoke from the wreck. Gayboi didn't have any smoke or signs to find Finn.
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>>67817058
Yes, that's not a rip-off

episode 1-6 are one movie. It's George Lucas. TFA has no thematic points to speak of, you just have tatooine rip-off planets like Jakku and unimaginative cgi blobs that are supposed to resemble alien species, There is nothing new or original, everything is just retro and memes. It's a complete rip-off from Lucas's work.

>>67817097
No it wasn't, there is barely anything recognizable in Episode I
You guys should just face the fact that TFA is an inauthentic rip-off that retreads previously established ideas without any meaningful context

the art direction is horse shit and once they run out of old concept art they can mix and merge, Disney will be fucked
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>>67817718
does the jacket have midichlorians and decided to swap hosts and choose a sweaty nigger?
I need answers on this gay jacket exchange.
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>>67817385
>- democratization of lightsabers (suddenly everyone seems to be able to use one?!?)

It's a fucking sword. Anyone can pick it up. Finn loses both of his fights with it, regardless. He only lasted as long as he did against Kylo because Kylo was clearly toying with him

>girl learns to use force all by herself, as if she had a mimikry force talent

This is real Star Wars again, which the Force is about spirit and belief, not the 20 years of literal Yoda School of the prequels.

>Han only learns after three decades that the bowcaster is strong? Really???

Who cares. Han is still using the same DL-44, he probably just never thought to use Chewie's crossbow which is canonically a weapon you really only see wookiees use.

>TIE attack on the cantina spares the Millennium Falcon on the ground?!?

Who cares.

>Still TIE Fighters and X-Wings? Not even facelifts? The SW fans have become used to advanced starfighter models. They should at least have used visibly modernised X-Wings and TIE Advanced models.

The X-Wings and Tie fighters do look markedly different. You ever see a 2-seater Tie Fighter in the original trilogy? If anything, it was retarded that the Empire discarded their entire fleet of Republic era ships in favor of Star Destroyers in 19 years, when IRL the US military is still using aircraft designs from the 1960s.

>Why didn't Finn see the pilot's footsteps on the soft soil, leading away from the wreck?

Finn and Poe were both ejected before the crash. It's hard to notice because of the editing, but Finn wakes up like a mile away from the crash and then walks over. Poe was ejected too, he says as much at the Resistance base.

>Why wasn't Han Solo's big freighter introduced a bit better, and why did it look so terrible inside?

Because the joke is that Han Solo is being a shitty smuggler because he's an old guy running away from his problems. The Falcon coming back is a symbol of him returning to his true calling (fighting the evil empire)
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>>67817737
>No it wasn't, there is barely anything recognizable in Episode I

A Skywalker blows up a space station with proton torpedoes, saving the day right before the bad guys have their total victory. The final shot of the movie is a celebration on a staircase. Am I describing Episode I or Episode IV?

You're also giving George Lucas too much credit, faggot. If you actually know anything about Star Wars, George Lucas only came up with the basic idea and most of the meat of the universe was done by other people, he just got lucky because he got the merchandising rights which make him insanely rich and allowed him to self-finance the other movies as executive producer, allowing him to retroactively paint himself as the sole creative mind behind star wars.
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>>67817737
>No it wasn't, there is barely anything recognizable in Episode I
Remember that time a kid leaves a desert planet in order to train as a Jedi with a wise, old master? Remember when that kid blows up a large enemy structure to save the day before he gets an award in a large ceremony at the end?
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>>67812549
uuuAAAhhhh, what is that first thing?
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>>67818158
the girl from girls aloud? actually had a pint with her and she is pretty safe,reallly easy to talk to.
happy she is doing something else.
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>>67811402
>not Poe

oh fuck right off
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>>67817847
>This is real Star Wars again, which the Force is about spirit and belief, not the 20 years of literal Yoda School of the prequels.

I agree. That's why Luke Skywalker already knew every trick in the book and was a powerful force user BEFORE Yoda taught him.

Also he defeated Darth Vader in combat with no prior training from Obi-Wan or Yoda. :)
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>>67818485
so we know it is a gay thing with Poe and Finn and Rey and the new chinese chick but what kind of sex scenes will we get?
been waiting 30 fucking years for a good anti grav sex scene.
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>>67818557
>Also he defeated Darth Vader in combat with no prior training from Obi-Wan or Yoda. :)

I love how people simultaneously complain about TFA being too similar to ANH and then bitch Kylo Ren lost in the first movie.

Shows you're full of cognitive dissonance AND you're retarded and don't understand Kylo Ren's character
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>>67818578
>implying Rey won't hook up with Finn and raise and train their force sensitive kids years later
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>no Y-Wings
>no A-Wings
>no B-Wings
>no TIE Interceptors
Bravo, Disney!
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>>67818618
Darth Vader lost in ANH...
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>>67818578
I want to see some Hutt bullying Rey
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>>67818642
too obvious even for jewjew and it is confirmed both relationships will be gay.
I was hoping for ginger general hux to be in there somewhere.
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>>67817099
not him, but you can easily tell him working as a janitor was a temporary thing
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>>67818798
>implying JJ doesn't like going for the obvious

The main character WILL be in an interracial couple with a black man
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>>67818847
JJ isn't going to direct EP 8, it's Rian Johnson.
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>>67813892
Not only that, he was supposed to be a perfect, statuesque looking female.

>Kylo never got mind-diddled by a hot older woman

Suffering.
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>>67818798
>expecting paint on a street to not get tire marks
how retarded are they? are they going to paint inside toilet bowls and then complain when there's some shit on it?
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>>67818880
JJ's still producing it.

You just KNOW
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>>67818955
that ain't the worst part,look at the cost.
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>>67818798
Sōda ne
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>>67812549
>""""""great""""""""""" Britain
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>>67812335
THey speak American on Tatooine, but not on her desert homeworld I guess.

This is actually Canon btw, American/British accents are actually defined in the star wars universe.
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>>67818847
It has to involve droids,humans twileks,hutts and those red skinned darth maul things.
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>>67812549
Why do you think we were able to found the largest empire in human history? We were desperately trying to get away from our """""""""women"""""""""
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>>67818847
eh, if Abrams wanted interracial he would've done it already in TFA.
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>>67819240
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>>67811402
He is actually not a bad actor.
If he can get more roles in things that arent Star Bores he has potential.
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