Nipponese kino thread
I'll start with a classic
>>67806429
why is mizoguchi-san so based¿
>>67806429
I just noticed the title reads >for you.
>>67806511
it's a japanese kanji character you read as "Ran" as the movie is titled
>>67806429
>not a capeshit thread
was worth a shot OP, but fraid you will be arriving on page 10 within 5 minutes
Kore-Eda is the savior of modern Japanese drama
Which should I watch first guys?
>>67806603
Chronological. That's what I did.
>>67806585
Agreed. Kurosawa, Sono and Miike are toomhit and miss (although I think Love Exposure isnone of the best films ever made).
Tsukamoto is fantastic but doesn't have the impact of the others.
>>67806585
I read that as "Still Wanking"
Pure and distilled kino
>>67806616
That's normally how I would do it but I'm away for 4 weeks in a few days and wanted to squeeze in his best work before I go. I'll jut watch the first couple and wait for the rest though, it's the right way.
>>67806953
No.
Kiyoshi Kurosawa makes some bretty ebin movies, one of my favorite directors.
![1964 - Kaidan.mkv_snapshot_02.24.04_[2016.04.03_07.54.30].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/S4gVkH7.jpg "1964 - Kaidan.mkv_snapshot_02.24.04_[2016.04.03_07.54.30].jpg")
They had one job
>>67806953
Yes.
>>67806953
pleb, all patricians know that the best nippon cartoons came in OVA form.
>>67807000
That's a great poster
>>67807010
fuck yes. this movie is at least as good as Harakiri, don't know why it's so overlooked. I guess a three-hour horror anthology is less palatable than a dialogue-heavy samurai film.
>>67806990
What, too deep for you?
>>67806990
>>67806585
The miracle worker of modern Japanese cinema.
>>67806429
Heaven and Earth
>>67806511
wow.. wtf.
![1964 - Kaidan.mkv_snapshot_01.03.02_[2016.04.03_08.07.31].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/jjYa982.jpg "1964 - Kaidan.mkv_snapshot_01.03.02_[2016.04.03_08.07.31].jpg")
>>67807070
Nah, Visually it's beautifulexcept for when they fuck up and pan the camera so close to the painted backgroundbut the beginning and end stories aren't that interesting.
Was it Kobayashi's first color film, because it feels like he going for a Wizard of Oz thing were he makes everything colorful just because he can now. The opening credits are just colored ink in water.
Also kinda funny Seppuku's name was changed to Hara-kiri because people were more familiar with that term despite it being the opposite these days.
>>67806738
>Kurosawa
>Hit and Miss
Seriously what the fuck - has he made a single movie between 1948 to 1985 that was not at least entertaining? And among them how many are not excellent movies?
This one is my favourite.
>>67806429
>4U
that's why it's 'classic'?
Any nihon kino similar do Kar-wai's?
>>67807557
Considering he was born in 1955, no he hasn't made a film between 48 and 85.
>>67807557
>Un film de Masaki Kobayashi
>RIGHT THERE ON THE POSTER
also, he's talking about Kiyoshi Kurosawa.
>>67807588
You know Kar-wai is from Hong Kong, right?
>>67807629
>>67807651
ah, well shit.
Also the poster was in responds to the OP.
>>67807682
You no he asked if there are any Japanese filmmakers like Kar-wai, right?
>>67806429
I just saw the 4K restored version yesterday and man it's beautiful!!!
Kurosawa did 1300 paintings as the story boards for this. Kino indeed!!
>>67807682
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=nihon
>>67807588
Shunji Iwai - but not as charming.
>>67806429
>Nipponese kino
What does that mean?
>>67807826
Japanese Houga
>>67807811
Going to watch All About Lily Chou-Chou. Thanks
>>67807848
>Houga
What does that mean?
>>67807875
It's amazing and sad and one of the best films of the decade.
>>67807746
The colours are all fucked up but I'm still looking forward to seeing it on a big screen.
Got to go to fucking Ipswich though.
>>67807875
You won't regret it. Possibly the first great film about being growing up in the internet age
>>67806429
Bane?
>>67806541
4 U
1 litre of tears is best
>>67806429
Cannot be unseen.
>>67807946
>Ipswich
Unlucky mate but it's not even showing in Birmingham (where I live) for fucks sake. Will probably head up to Fact in Liverpool and watch it there as I can't make it to Nottingham this week.
Survive Style 5+ is one of the funniest Japanese films I've seen. Vinnie Jones playing an assassin who has to bring a translator with him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEH7nDkiPEk
>>67808006
At least you get to see it though. They are also doing a screening of The Good, The Bad & The Ugly in May with an introduction with Sir Christopher Frayling. Ipswich is good for something, it seems.
>>67807989
This.
Ikebukuro West Gate Park
A story about youth gang, a cult classic loved by many young Japanese males.
>>67806429
Entry level arthouse for IMDb nu-cinephiles. It caresses the viewer with normie content and lack of sincerity. It's one of the best known examples of proto-capeshit. A middling war epic disguised as something else, so it passes a false illusion of profundity.
It's imbecile to suggest that it's at the top of Kurosawa's flickography let alone at the top of the catalog of japan' s kinoramas.
Any of you watch the Battles Without Honour or Humanity series? I wasn't expecting them to be so good.
Really gritty and worth the time.
>>67808105
>buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword
fuck off you nu-faggot dicksuckography proto-dickhead
>>67808105
>Entry level
>nu-cinephile
>normie
>capeshit
>flickography
>kinorama
Impressive meme density, friend.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOBxdHOBtx8
Is this kino?
>>67808043
>They are also doing a screening of The Good, The Bad & The Ugly in May with an introduction with Sir Christopher Frayling
That'll be amazing. I'm jealous!
As much as I give Birmingham shit for being a cultural wasteland we do have screenings of The Bicycle Theives, 12 Angry Men and Tokyo Story this month so it's not all bad. The Electric Cinema is basically keeping movies in the city alive on its own.
>>67808105
>Buzzword buzzword for buzzword buzzword. It buzzword with buzzword and buzzword. It's one of the best known examples of buzzword. It's imbecile to suggest that it's at the top of Kurosawa's buzzword let alone at the top of the catalog of Japan's buzzword.
>>67808165
I feel the same about Suffolk in general. Bury St. Edmunds is doing well, but when I saw the screening of Ida was dubbed I actually wrote a letter to them asking what their reasoning for this was and what they hoped to achieve, long term. To my surprise they actually responded with a lot of thought. Probably won't change anything, mind.
>>67806541
Fucking idiot.
Trick
>>67808105
How could you shit-talk Ran without even mentioning King Lear?
Apply yourself, you fucking pleb.
Is Tadanobu Asano the best actor of his generation?
Also, although not Japanese, has anybody seen Ruined Heart?
>>67808231
I wasn't even aware there was a dub of Ida. I thought we'd been mostly past that point for nearly 15 years now. Interesting that they opted to show it though. Was it for reasons of accessibility?
>>67808231
I will never understand why anyone dubs live action films
>>67806585
Not anymore, but anything from the nineties to 2001 from him is absolutely god tier, still walking and airdoll are still pretty nice tho
Does anyone have anything to say here that isn't "x is bad", " y is good", and "here's a list of movies I ranked"?
>>67808397
Welcome to the reddit board
>>67808370
>>67808374
Same, it seemed crazy to me. Basically, yes. They said they didn't necessarily want to do it but did so because they weren't sure if subtitle would be offputting. I said in my letter that it's unlikely that anybody interested enough to know about and want to watch Ida would want to see it dubbed. Mainstream audiences would not be interested in it subbed or dubbed so why alienate the viewerbase even more with an inadequate version of the film? I didn't go and watch it and let them know this decision cost them a ticket and they seemed quite upset by this.
>>67808397
Thanks for the great contribution.
>>67808397
I think that the Japanese are the only ones who really 'got' what cyberpunk was about.
The average american 'cyberpunk' is just science-fiction with a layer of dirt on top or something. To be truly punk you have to throw a giant middle finger in the face of all things conventional, including all the stuff we take for granted like traditional narrative structure and flow, and how things are meant to look and sound.
If half of the average moviegoing public straight up can't make it to the end of your movie you've succeeded in creating punk. Anything less is poser-tier.
>>67808508
Agreed. An American mind could not come up with Tetsuo. Mind you, not many Japanese minds could either.
>>67806603
Pigs and battleships
>>67807070
It's not overlooked at all, try the inheritance
>>67807588
Maboroshi no hikari
I like jap new wave
>>67806738
After Love Exposure and Suicide Club (loved both) I watched Hazard and I didn't like it except for a few moments.
Which one should I watch next?
>>67808344
Nah, I've been looking after I heard of Mondomanila though
>>67807046
Those scenes at the see are so comfy, but the story didn't make any sense
>>67808681
Cold Fish for fucking sure.
>>67808681
Cold Fish, Guilty of Romance, Himizu and The Land of Hope.
I think The Land of Hope was his last truly great film.
>>67808727
If you liked them check out the Kitano film A Scene at the Sea.
In fact, how has Kitano not been mentioned yet?
What does /tv/ think of Linda Linda Linda? It's extra comfy, probably in my 25 favorite films
>>67808727
Made enough sense for me, and story's for plebs anyway.
>>67808801
I was expecting Kitano to be among the first replies. I recently rewatched Violent Cop and liked it much more the second time around. I think Kitano's one of the best directors working right now when it comes to handling violence. I don't think anybody can make a gunfight that hits harder than Kitano at his best.
I also watched Brother for the first time. Seeing American and Japanese gangster values compared directly was really interesting. I love cross-cultural movies, and the ending made me feel.
I think I'd add Violent Cop to what I consider to be essential Kitano-core, alongside Sonatine and A Scene at the Sea.
>>67808801
I've seen it already, it's one of my favs from him. I really love his obsession for the sea, and even though I was a bit disoriented at first because ASATS has a more "urban" portrayal of the sea than usual, in the end I enjoyed just as much as the others.
The story that goes with it was very compelling aswell
>>67808935
Hana-Bi is my favourite of his, although it's very close between that and Sonatine.
>I don't think anybody can make a gunfight that hits harder than Kitano at his best.
Nor a baseball bat to the skull. That part always makes me wince. It's horrendous to watch.
Even moments like when that innocent girl at the bus stop gets shot. Bystanders get shot in films all the time, but making hers so brutal and unnecessary carries so much more weight.
>>67808476
Here's some stuff would like to talk about.
What do you think about Oshima's response to the classicism of Ozu, Mizoguchi and the other old guard directors in his film The Ceremony?
Imamura's version of The Ballad of Narayama is very interesting as a comparison to Kinoshita's. Especially when you consider the fact that the adaptations came for both when they were more mature directors at similar stages in refinement of their themes.
I find Kiju Yoshida's films really fascinating in their use of extreme framing and overexposure but the messages in his films seem to be too narrow in scope to really stand the test of time. (but it has been over a year since I last watched one of them and I might understand it better if I gave them another watch.).
Hopefully I'll get some responses in the next 9 hours before I get back on.
>>67809265
But do you like Love Exposure?
Anyone seen this? Opinions?
It's sad what happened to modern Japanese compared to China and Korea cinema considering it's root.
Best Japanese film of the last ten years and it wasn't made by a Jap.
>>67811550
I love that film. It has such a wonderful atmosphere.
>>67806585
Comfiest movie ever?
>>67806429
god I loved this movie's atmosphere
>Nipponese kino
That's clearly 'eiga', get a grip.
Any more films like Tetsuo? Dirty, grimy, kind of fucked up (not Audition-tier edginess) but also kind of lighthearted?
>>67806953
I wonder what future generations will say
>>67806429
>mfw this is the actual title and not some banefag edit
>mfw i have no face
>>67813044
Baneposting exist since the Big bang
This was on netflix and I was really surprised by it
>>67806429
Confessions... What a fucking ending. Anybody else seen it?
I thought it was a bit messy but the payoff was worth it.
>>67814475
That's because Koreeda is a genius and only makes amazing films.
>>67815034
>Tfw local theater canceled showing of the newest Koreeda film for 10000 showing of grimbsy
>>67806429
>They Ran away! We must catch them!
bravo, kiwisour
>>67806429
>Ran is in a bunch of cinemas nearby this week
>No friends to go with
What do lads?
thoughts on the human condition?
;_;
>>67815308
Coming to blu-ray soon. Already pre-ordered. Hype as fuck
>>67815308
The first movie starts out a bit slow trying to establish all the characters and the setting and shit, but it really starts getting crazy after the first half. The 2nd movie is fucking perfect and you have no idea how it can be topped. The 3rd movie is even more perfect than the second, every minute is flawless. The human condition is seriously one of the best movies I've ever seen in my life. It is definitely in my top 10 and it is in the top 3 greatest WWII films (along with come and see and the ascent). I never really cried watching a movie, but this movie got me really emotional in the end. Full of feels.
>>67806541
it actually says "theatricality and deception"
>>67815282
Go solo, of course.
I already missed it in my cinema. Fucking horrible.
Why have I been hearing a shitload of stuff about Ran recently?
Also. anyone know if the Studio Canal blu-ray of Ran is any good? Heard it's a bad transfer.
>>67812555
Check out some of the director's other films, particularly Bullet Ballet.
![萌の朱雀 (Moe no Suzaku).mkv_snapshot_00.14.34_[2015.04.09_19.19.28].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/SA0x91F.jpg "萌の朱雀 (Moe no Suzaku).mkv_snapshot_00.14.34_[2015.04.09_19.19.28].jpg")
What does /tv/ think about Naomi-chan?
>>67816494
>moeshit
no thanks
>>67817045
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>>67806429
>4 U
baneshitters please fuck off
>>67816494
>female directors
>>67816161
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film5/blu-ray_reviews_71/ran_blu-ray.htm
ctrl+f "jesnet" to scroll down to the image comparisons
>>67817245
Disgusting filter
>>67807581
fuck you now i can't not see it.
>>67808801
I've only seen Sonatine and Hanabi. The former is probably my favorite film. Hana-bi is much more distinct and personal but I got more enjoyment from Sonatine. I love that they're more or less the same movie made at distinctly different times in his life, chiefly before and after a suicide attempt.
The way both movies depict vacations is really touching. I've always though there's something depressing about running away from your life for a week or so knowing it will only end, that very fleeting happiness you tease yourself with.
Why does literally every Japanese movie have a rape scene and/or rape subplot or other abuse of women. Every single one.
>>67808994
A huge appeal of Sonatine for me is how plain and almost boring the violence is in the first part of the film. Most movies try to shock the audience by going bigger and more brutal, but thats just more exciting in a different way. The matter of fact way people are constantly being shot and blown up in Sonatine is a lot more shocking, and sad. You really feel how dead the protagonist is inside and how little heroism and coolness there is to his lifestyle like other movies would depict
>>67818100
Much better image quality than the previous one though. I still won't watch it yet, holding out for a good release someday
>>67808777
>I think The Land of Hope was his last truly great film.
What about Why Don't You Play in Hell?
>>67816231
Looks good, thanks for the rec
How would you start waching Ozu?
I downloaded A Story of Floating Weeds assuming that's a good film to start with.
>>67816494
>>67817080
I've never seen or heard much about any of her films, but appearing at Cannes every year has somehow made her a big name anyway despite relatively little attention otherwise.
>>67807629
>>67807702
He's lying. Kurosawa was born in 1910. First film was in 1943.
>>67816494
I saw Still the Water the other day and liked it. A lot. Family drama that reminded me of Yi Yi on more than one occasion. No idea about the rest of her shit tho.
>>67818691
>The way both movies depict vacations is really touching.
Man you really need to watch Kikujiro in a bad way. I mean like, stop what you're doing right now and go watch it kinda way.
>>67806429
Just saw Here Then 2012.
Pretty good.
>>67819325
He's very consistent, but don't start with anything at the beginning of end of his career. Pick something in the middle.
Is this kino?
