This film is better and smarter than Batman v Superman
Well it's capekino
John B here, Q&A
>>67778151
Is Winter Solider better than BvS?
>>67778096
Considering BvS is not smart at all, that's a goal not hard to achieve.
>>67778096
BvS was total shit, but that doesn't mean your capeshit has anything going for it
>>67778178
>clearly a film
>on a television and film board
>telling OP to move it to /co/
You got some autism?
>>67778196
Hellboy is better than both
They're both average but atleast Winter Solider doesn't try so hard.
>>67778151
You're the cancer that is killing /tv/.
>>67778215
this
>>67778229
Shut up Craig
Box office wise, BvS is competing with this movie.
Batman and Superman are trying to beat Captain America 2 at the BO.
Kek.
What's so smart about it?
>>67778196
They are both on the same level, I'm mot much of a superhero fan tho.
I just want them to disappear, you know? They are flooding the market.
>>67778096
Well wouldn't go that far, but it is one of the few good capeshit movies, and worthy of capekino status.
even the first captain america is better than bvs
>>67778262
nothing
Snyder > > > Muh Russo bros
His artistic mis-en-scene and warmth > their cel-phone commercial tier cinematography.
His lucid, brutal fight sequences > their couple scenes of soft-shoe before the ticking time bomb snooze of a final act
Big guys who have sex with beautiful women in their lives > the sterile, sexless world of Disney/Marvel's eunucheros.
>>67778151
u was pretty good in TFA
i checked out attack on the black too it was really good too
i hope you team up with based Oscar in ep VIII
>>67778262
>What if, now stick with me here, what if the bad guys have infiltrated the government!?
soo deep, such a political thriller to people that haven't actually seen a political thriller
>>67778096
ITT: Overrated pretentious crap
>>67778096
is just the worst shit done by hollywood in the last 2 decades. the action is just mediocre, but when it pretends to be smart is beyond retarded.
anyone defending this shit must be have brain damage
>>67778151
What was it like to work with H ford?
>>67778587
Why are you talking about Batman v Superman?
>>67778587
But that's Batman v Superman anon
>>67778587
How does it pretend to be smart? What about the movie specifically makes you say this?
>muh Bucky
Literally gay cinema.
>>67778677
>muh Martha
>>67778587
So you mean Batman vs Superman?
>>67778262
That's the funny thing. It doesn't have to be smart to be smarter than BvS.
>>67778377
>Big guys who have sex with beautiful women in their lives > the sterile, sexless world of Disney/Marvel's eunucheros.
Thats actualyl an aspect which pisses me off. Soemthing that is clearly missing form these movies. All they have are quips. Meanwhile Watchmen has full blown out Silk Spectre cowgirl action.
>>67778587
You just described BvS
>>67778262
That's the point. Even though it doesn't try to be smart it is smarter
>>67778096
>Winter Soldier goes topical
>SO CLEVAH AND DIFFERENT
>BvS goes topical
>SO HAMFISTED THIS IS SUPPOSED TO E CAPESHIT!
i swear you niggering niggers
>>67778247
>atleast Winter Solider doesn't try so hard.
how is that better?
>>67778262
The entire first act. It focuses in Cap's feeling about the new world he is, the war memories and such. It also has a nice conversation with Fury about vigilance.
When the second act begins it goes to the average spy film territory (which is higher than capeshit anyway).
>>67778096
>A-at least our shitty dumb movie doesn't have quips
>>67778888
But WS really didn't have that many quips. It was pretty serious for a Marvel film
>>67778888
That's the funny thing, it was actually full of quips, they just weren't meant to be funny. Hell, something like 33% of the dialog in BvS were quips or lines whose sole purpose was to build up to a quip.
>>67778096
Memba wen both BvS and CW were slated to release on the same day and people were calling Marvel absolutely insane for not moving? And then Warner moved. That's when I knew BvS was going to be garbage.
>>67779076
Holy fuck can you imagine how fucked BvS would be if they never moved the date?
IMO Better Soundtrack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVJGh51wR7k
The Winter Soldier is the best Marvel film but it's a scifi political thriller.
DC stuff is incomparable to this. It's more mythological/fantasy based.
I know many norms who like the 'funny' Marvel movies but think The Winter Soldier is 'boring'.
They have not been enthused by the Civil War trailer at all.
>>67779236
so good
>>67779270
>it's a scifi political thriller.
Kill yourself
>>67779270
Its a spy movie.
Its literally Captain America as James Bond.
>>67778377
>Hating on Winter Soldier.
>Praising capeshitter first """""deep"""""" movie
>>67779573
>Its literally Captain America as James Bond.
No, it's not.
>>67779515
>>67779573
It's an action movie with some thriller elements you dumbfucks.
>>67779573
>Its a spy movie.
>Its literally Captain America as James Bond.
Memorable foreign setpeices...no
Colorful interesting villain...no
Femme fatale...no
Intrigue...no
>>67779967
>Implying the last James Bond movie had all of those
I literally can't remember anything from this movie besides the knife fight, elevator fight, and jet fight.
>>67779997
It was bad but it did
>>67780048
More like captain america: The Set Piece Soldier.
This is the best semi-serious Superhero movie since TDK.
Prove me wrong, fag lords!
>man has super strength and an indestructible shield
>antagonist has robot arm
>not scifi
fuck off
>giant floating weapon platforms utilising repulsor engines
>not scifi
fuck off
>>67779573
It's more like a political conspiracy thriller on steroids.
That's why they cast Robert Redford. Three days of the Condor was a mayor influence.
Best closing credits of any Marvel film too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jpnBs0DkXg
>>67779270
>scifi political thriller.
Liked the movie but, how the fuck does it compare to "A few good men", "Untouchables" and "All the President's Men"?
It's beyond capeshit, i'll give you that, but it doesn't deserve the political thriller term.
>>67780361
you are evidently a fucking moron
>>67779967
>>Memorable foreign setpeices...no
I'll grant you that
>>Colorful interesting villain
Robert Redford. Crossbones. Hail hydra
>>Femme fatale
Black Widow. Agent Carter
>>Intrigue
Assuming you were a normie, Bucky was a spoiler. Also what was Romanoffs agenda at the start. And what was Fury unable to decrypt.
It had a decent amount of critique.
>>67779125
Both would be fucked. People would blame Disney/Marvel for paying critics and all that shit.
>>67779573
>>67779270
>>67780429
>People would blame Disney/Marvel for paying critics and all that
Right? Could you imagine if people actually thought something like that?
>>67780356
And spy movies incorporate a good deal of political conspiracy. Its the game of espionage: you inspect the dirty shit within the political level.
Hell, barring the fact that Cap is a superhero, there was a shitload of espionage in the movie. Nick himself was a master spy. And he faked his own death. Hydra pretty much was an analogue for SPECTRE.
And Cap went underground. Its was one kickass James Bond movie... if Bond was a superhero and threw a shield.
>>67778096
No shit
>>67778587
I personally dislike the last 20 minutes or so, but everything leading up to that was great.
I'm not here to hate on DC but Winter Soldier was a solid movie.
>>67779236
I really hate this track.
It's sound like a robotic baby crying in a crib after shitting it's pants.
>>67778196
obviously, I'm not a marvel fag but it is superior in every way.
BvS had better fight scenes, better cinematography, better special effects
Winter Soldier was bland and boring
>>67781098
Batman and Superman fight was only 5 minutes. Doomsday fight was all CGI.
Winter Soldier had THREE fight sequences, plus one good shout sequence.
The doomsday CGI was okay, I Guess, but it got NOTHING on three helicarriers fucking each other up.
If anything, BvS was the boring movie
>>67781498
Saving Martha fight > the entirety of TWS
>>67781628
too bad the rest of BvS was irredeemable shit
>>67781650
false
>>67780910
nope sorry, the whole thing is terrible
since the beginning they become shoving up the most simplistic political views, beyond what FoxNews or TeleSur would be ashamed to say.
and they they end up stating that manichaeistic view of patriotic, pro-war, good guys vs evil, withe men that can only be solved by punching nazis or something.
I usually like good propaganda, even if not agree with their philosophy, like Triumph of the Will, or Hiroshima mon amour, but this one is just lame.
>>67781628
The Martha fight was too dark. I couldn't see shit.
And it didn't have good one on one.
Hell it was lacking gravitas. Hurr Durr his Mom and my Mom share the samename. In contrast, cap was fighting within a greater web of intrigue.
Face it DCshill: you just want to promote BvS. It's still a bad movie
Winter soldier is objectively the best capeshit ever created
>>67781829
>The Martha fight was too dark. I couldn't see shit.
Think TWS does so well here because Marvel is autism friendly?
>>67781697
good comeback senpai
>>67781498
>>67781650
>>67781714
>>67781829
samecunt crying like a little girl
Besides the thematic differences, why disney decided to go for that tv tier photography in its capeshit? tent pole actioners used to have a beautifull cinematography as it saving grace, until this pityful tendency started
is it because people like >>67781829 ?
>>67781714
I didn't say it wasn't simple. Hell, Alien is simple if you want to look at it though that prism. I just said it was great, well shot and the action felt good.Die Hard doesn't address political views, pro war, patriotism or any of that bullshit....but is one of the best action movies ever.
Literally go fuck your own face, retard.
>>67778096
They're on a similar vein. BvS has the upper hand, at least I didn't forget about it like 15 minutes after watching it
>>67782239
I have no clue. I hate how stale and commercial their cinematography is.
>>67782126
true
>>67778262
Nothing. Its a "political thriller" because he is fighting against mass surveillance and he is betrayed by his own hierarchy. Which is really original.
>>67778262
All the main characters are people who are bummed that they're still alive.
>Captain America
>fights against America
similarity to pottery, they are homophones
>>67778096
>Capeshit
>smart
You must be retarded
>>67782612
tfw you realize Steve is clinically depressed and is constantly trying to kill himself by going on suicide missions
>>67782807
>Steve is depressed because he missed out on his whole life
>Natasha is depressed because she thinks she can't be a good person
>Sam is depressed because of his war PTSD
>Bucky is depressed because he's the Winter Soldier
>The whole movie, on multiple layers, is about throwing out the old world (SHIELD, HYDRA) and taking control of your life again
>>67782696
>thinking it's somehow impossible for movies of a certain type to have some genuine thought woven into the writing process
>taking pride in irrational preconceptions like this
No, it's people like you who are retarded.
>>67783009
>the government is depressed because they can't be openly nazis
POTTERY
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>>67782239
>tv tier photography
Thor 2, Ant-Man and First Avenger were kino.
>>67782239
>>67782407
>post a set picture
>pretend it's an actual shot in the movie
>call it tv-tier
retards
>>67783197
>thor anything
>the"im always angry, so i break the rule of my power and fight vague bad guys with no goals" avengers
>good
>>67783197
>thor 2
Had ugly photography, 2010s HBO tier. Aspect ratio didn't help
I agree on the other two though, even if AntMan had that aspect ratio too
>>67783009
>Steve is depressed because his old life will never come back.
>tfw the only thing that keeps coming back is HYDRA.
>>67783270
it's the fact that the costume is disgustingly shit
>>67783313
nah
>>67783279
I never said it was good, i said it had competent cinematography. Malekith and Kurse costumes were good.
>>67783362
it really didnt
>>67783350
yah
>>67783425
nah
>>67780546
>tfw people say The First Avenger was meh but it was my favorite MCU movie
>>67783480
yah
i hate all capeshit expect this one and dark knight
>>67784150
nah
It was ok
>>67779061
Well deluded.
>>67778876
Carry the fire.
>>67779754
You have zero imagination. It would totally work as a Bond script with very little tweaking. You're just a cancer.
