Why did people hate Apocalypto so much? I thought it was rad as shit, more movies should be made about crazy as fuck native cultures in their native language and everything.
People weren't keen on the subtitles. Mel only got away with it on Christ because of the story
It should be loved though. Its a solid film
>>67767563
It was considered mediocre by most critics at the time I remember., only has a 65% RT rating.
>>67767489
My mum is literally the only person I know why hated it. Literally because it's not a matthew mcconoghetyeye/that blond kate chick movie.
>>67767556
>>67767563
I've gotta concur, anyone who actually bothered to watch Apocalypto considered it a masterpiece.
>>67767489
It's pretty good but it misses something that would make it great. I guess it's slightly too simple and has kitschy elements (the little girl with the prophecy, for example).
>crazy as fuck native cultures
I'm not an expert, but from what I understand the movie is almost entirely fabricated. It's not historically or culturally accurate at all.
>>67767489
I thought it was great.
>>67767598
>RT Matters
>>67767489
Great film. Really simple story in a very interesting setting.
It was everything revenant was but better
>>67767620
>It's not historically or culturally accurate at all.
its a fictional people/culture but youre retarded if you dont realize what its based on
The Deadlands is pretty good if you want Maori Apocalypto. Hard as fuck to find for download though. Streams of it exist if you don't care about 480p quality though.
We're they Mayan or Aztec?
>>67767736
>woman character overpowering much larger male aggressor with superior agility and technique
Looks great
>>67767763
Regardless, its still pretty fresh and entertaining. Did Gibson even go for authenticity?
>>67767736
maori here. it was cheesy and dumb.
>>67767811He just gets back up, goes fuck this shit, lifts her up and breaks her neck and throws her to the ground
>>67767763
What is incorrect about it?
>>67767862
Everything, apparently.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/12/061208-apocalypto-mel.html
do you guys just spout any dumb shit that comes to mind? the real reason it didn't do well was because it came out just after Mel's racist breakdown and considering Hollywood is literally all jew it copped a lot of shit because retard critics couldn't distinguish the artist from the art and just thought the film was racist as well (not kidding, google it if you want too). Because of that backlash, a lot of people including filmmakers like Tarantino championed it as one of the best films they saw that year and that's the only reason it was nominated for anything at the Oscars.
>>67767736
Is that Akuma?
>>67767763
so fucking what, no one can shoot a revolver like in every western ever made but that's how we like our cowboys.
It's a spectacle of a movie, but the plot and characters were forgettable. Pretty good, but I wouldn't watch it again
>>67767862
Mexican here. It was blasted by a bunch of activist for being a movie about puedo-Aztecs made by an American. It had nothing to do with accuracy at all, it was just a bunch of pissed off leftists.
It's accurate to an extent but the violence was definitely over the top. The field of dead bodies in particular is the most inaccurate part, not even the Conquistadors who lied about almost everything reported something like that.
>>67767899
>http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/12/061208-apocalypto-mel.html
Literal nitpicking
>>67767900
>hollywood is a big, political popularity contest circlejerk managed by jews
Tell me something I DON'T already know!
>>67767843
I didn't mind it, the only cheesy stuff were the ghost visions.
>>67767489
b/c it was just some fuckwad running away for 90 minutes
>>67767973
>A bunch of savages in the jungle consume their own feces while murdering each other and taking peyote
Honestly, what's to get wrong?
>>67767979
>getting ready to fight
>wide eyes and flicking tongue to psych the other person out
why is this not a thing outside of polynesian cultures? its fucking badass
>>67768002
>Some fuckwad running away for 90 minutes
And LOTR is just a bunch of faggots walking for 10 hours. Have you not read "A Most Dangerous Game" or seen any Prison Break movie?
>>67767847
I need a webm of that for.... reasons
>>67768102
Probably because to most people it looks queer and retarded
>>67768102
>not painting yourself blue and biting your shield
Do you even intimidate?
>>67768200
say that to my face fucker not online and see what happens
>>67768200
It makes them look psychotic in the literal sense, especially with the eyes
>>67768241
any MMAfags know if there are any samoan fighters that do this IRL? I need to see this done in a real fight
>>67767950
And far west had less crime than Detroit nowadays, but we prefer films where OK corral happens everyweek.
Not the same, but Atanarjuat The Fast Runner is a movie about a mythical Inuit hero. Pretty cool but hard to find.
>>67767489
I think the only people that hated it were critics, and that was because it came out right around Mel's crazy person outburst.
The "real" people (online/IRL) I've talked to love it. Ballsy action, immersive setting.
>>67767950
Get your bean eating, taco making asses out of my country god damn it
>>67768102
its like telling a girl you have a giant dick just after sitting down at the table during a first date.
>>67767950
Isnt it about mayans not aztec
>>67768241
1v1 me m8
>>67768180
you have to appreciate how they used old world shit like poison frog darts, how most of their attacks were either to the jugular with a blade or blunt force to the head. I really liked how when the really sadistic raider died it was from a blunt to the head but blood started pouring out as if they shattered bone pierced his brain. Was dope.
also body language. seeing that old bitch get let off the selling block and sees her daughters man, she has eyes of sorrow - that no you're not useless and I love you and now you're off to die and now I trly have nothing
>>67768331
>going out on a date with a girl
nigger, if youre trying to come up with a metaphor that I can relate to then you fucking failed hard
>>67767950
It's about Mayan civilization right before its fall you dunce.
It was a fucking masterpiece of subtlety and plot hiding behind great action
Based Mel. Fucking kikes ostracising him
Critics didn't enjoy it so much because "muh Mel Gibson".
>rad as shit
Exactly how a person who has pleb taste talks
whats mel's next period masterpiece?
>>67767620
When are they gonna show Mexica (not Mexican) dads having sex with their daughters to make sure they can reach puberty? Or are we just gonna leave that out of the Maya movies?
>>67767489
>Why did people hate Apocalypto so much?
How can one sentence be so wrong? Does the fact that a film doesn't perform well at the box office automatically mean people didn't like it? I've heard nothing but praise from people who have seen it
I remember there being A LOT of action movie cliches
Mel Gibson is racist, sexist, and just a huge fucking jerkwad
This film is out-of-print on blu and dvd. :^(
>>67767489
As crappy remakes of The Naked Prey go, it was one of them.
>>67768653
It's not out of print on Pirate Bay ;^)
>>67768624
I agree. I saw this flick while I was babysitting my wife's son one time and I have to say, it was terrible
>>67767489
The level of Detail in apocalypto is pretty autistic.
>>67768819
Mel Gibson is the modern day equivalent to Kubrick
>>67767612
Visually it was masterpiece. In terms of story and realism below average however.
>>67768819
>details mean autism
you can go back to your capeshits anytime fag.
>Hollywood turns on Mel after he tells it like it is about FILTHY JEW KIKES
Yeah, I wonder why his movie wasn't a huge success
>>67767899
I just read that whole thing, and it really is nitpicking.
I don't understand the criticism that this movie is racist. All the villagers from the beginning are shown as honorable, noble guys. The bad guys at least have some historical evidence that they were bad.
>>67768653
My friend just a Blu Ray of this s month ago for like 8 bucks
>>67768422
>>67767620
>Gibson movies
>historically or culturally accurate at all.
>>67769012
>being unable to objectively appreciate the creative medium you claim to revere
Hollywood is dead
>>67768563
>dads having sex with their daughters
you say that like it's a bad thing
>>67769015
Mayans used to literally play some soccer type game with peoples severed heads. So they were brutal as hell
>>67769489
Mesoamerican soccer
>>67767800
some kind of mexican
>>67769566
Aztecs were in the mexican area, maya were below like central america
>>67767489
>Why did people hate Apocalypto so much?
wat
this is one of the least criticized movies and generally well received I know
>>67769201
>you say that like it's a bad thing
it isn't? damn sickos here
>>67767489
Hamfisted Hollywood tier story into a mesoamerican setting "m-muh wife I must rescue her" and retarded ending where they just happen to see spaniards arrive
mel went as far as to use original native language through the movie Iin order to give it a more serious tone however all that falls apart with the retarded story and very very obvious historical inaccuracies
>>67769680
>very obvious historical inaccuracies
Name one.
I loved how the film suddenly turned into a savage tribal horror film and that goddamn chase was brutal.
>>67769755
>Name one.
>>67767973
All that gore and muh horrible realistic violence was unnecessary. It was there for the sake of it rather than some point, pure titillation, just like the Passion.
The asspull of the protagonist being saved by the fucking Spanish colonialists is one of the most distinct cringe moments I have ever had with cinema.
>that hidden Waldo
It was a better horror movie than Green Inferno.
>>67769950
Pretty sure protagonist and his girl die from some disease from the Spaniards hours later.
>>67767899
The funny thing is that in 2009, 3 years after the movie, we discovered a huge stash of dead bodies, dead SACRIFICED bodies just behind a Mayan Pyramid, proving they did have sacrifices.
>>67767489
People hated Apocalypto? I was completely unaware this... Shocking really. Thought it was universally praised, never talked to anyone who didn't like it. Passion was shit though.
>>67770081
nah senpai they just escaped into the jungle. At any rate, regardless of what happens afterwards, the protagonist being saved from a heart-pounding chase by two giant fucking man-o-wars was positively preposterous.
>>67768429
Agree that frog poison shit was pretty cool.
>>67767489
People hated it? My impression was that it was pretty good.
>this is where all that bonus culture comes form
>>67769489
Hell just look at modern Mexicans crime.
They do the same exact shit from 500 years ago, except instead of praying to some weird animal they pray the Virgin Mary.
>>67770191
Maya isn't Mexico m8. Maya are from like Honduras which is still the number one murder capital of the world kek
>>67770191
Isn't it strange that the progressive left is so worried about how non whites are portrayed in media, while spics literally torture each other for sport 200 miles south of hollywood?
You sure don't see Hollywood advocating sobriety to stop drug related violence in mexico.
>>67768851
No. I really like this failed attempt at a catholic shill, but no.
>>67767489
a well received movie by public and critics atleast in europe
>>67767489
Because """"""people"""""" are fucking idiots. First it was Mel, now it's Snyder, the 2 most based directors of the past 20 years will no longer make movies because everyone is a fucking pleb, brainwashed by corporate Jews.
>>67770191
But they did pray to the Virgin Mary 500 years ago.
>>67767736
looks like shit why would you watch this ?
>>67770590
>Snyder
haha
>>67767620
>crazy as fuck native cultures
What exactly do you think is inaccurate? Historians believe natives of central America were indeed killing thousands of people at religious ceremonies. And think about all the other crazy shit humans have been doing all over the world throughout all history--Nanking, Rwanda, etc. It's 1000% believable that those people were executing others by the thousands because muh eclipse.
If you have an academic source that says otherwise, I'd like to read it.
I generally agree with your assessment of the movie's quality though.
>Why did people hate Apocalypto so much?
It was made by a talented director that Leftists were butthurt at.
>>67767489
Fuck those people, apocalypto was awsome.
Fucking liberal faggots screamed so mucj about how it was racist and portrayed the natives ad inhumane, probably didn't help that It was directed by Mel who may or may not have crossed a certain mercantile group
>>67767620
Those experts you are referring to were Probably those cuck that were screaming about how beautiful and Noble the culture of the Maya were,
>M-MUH NOBLE SAVAGE
>>67767620
still no sources saying the natives of central america *didn't* murder people by the thousands for superstitious reasons?
Do you just enjoy spouting ignorant bullshit?
>>67767899
>expert from UC Riverside
lol natgeo scraping the bottom of the barrel
Great movie. Honestly if Mel hadn't gone off the deep end it would be lauded as one of the top movies of the decade, easily.
It's one of the movies I usually watch once a year, maybe I'll do that today
>>67771748
Same here. Brilliant film and I would love Mel to do another old culture movie instead of muh WW2. Dude it's the only capable of doing that in the whole industry.
>>67770681
modern society has reached a point where it is racist to depict anyone other than white males negatively, regardless of truth or actual events
>>67772130
yeah, it's pretty insane. Will there be a movement in the opposite direction at some point, or are white people doomed?
>>67772240
>are white people doomed?
Everybody's fucked. It's not immigration and racemixing that's going to do it, it's consumerism and economics. That's how we and our children are going to be, basically, enslaved to the NWO. Psychologically, and economically.
And if any organization or individual slips out of that net, then it's the JFK treatment.
>>67772130
Rofl that's retarded. I'm white also and dude you're just victimising yourself. Nobody neglects any genocides and you can talk about them as much as you want. Yeah a Mexican might not want to hear it as much as a Serb or a Jew might not want to hear it, but they've all murdered people of certain ethnicities en masse.
>>67772463
im just shitposting buddy
>Mel wanted to do a viking film next
I will never forgive you holywood jude
I wouldn't say hate, but it was very under the radar. People hated the shit out of Passion of the Christ though
>>67767489
It didn't fit the liberal "noble savage" narrative.
>>67772515
FUCK that sounds cool
Like GoT but not stupid bullshit
>>67772625
you know he would have portrayed them as rapist raiding savages, instead of how /pol/ likes to seemthem
>>67772863
Yes, and it would have been glorious.
>implying most viking weren't snow dindus
>>67772863
>/pol/ likes to seemthem
If you haven't noticed, /pol/ thinks being a violent, raping savage is good as long as you're white, and a crime against humanity if you do it and you're not white.
Jews did 9/11 though
>>67772863
>Vikings raping and pillaging white people
>Selling white women to Turks
>White supremacists adore these people
>>67772753
Of course it did.
The noble savages lived in the jungle.
The ignoble savages lived in the cities.
>Mel "Fuck the Anglo and The Jews" Gibson making a movie portraying Catholics as the good people
I can understand his hatred of Jews since he is a Catholic after all, but what's with the hatred of the British?
>>67773390
The Eternal Anglo is an enemy of aryan man and based Mel knows it.
>>67772130
>hotel rwanda
>last king of scotland
>that movie that come out a while ago on netflix about child soldier nig
and those are movie about modern people
>>67773390
>what's with the hatred of the British?
A forced meme from /pol/, likely originating from a particular group of merchants
