Rey wasn't a mary sue
she was a fucking bitch
>>67761788
Yeah she was
>>67761788
yes she was you tasteless hack
>>67761855
so are most main characters in sci-fi/fantasy then. capeshit too
>>67761898
Wow, what a surprising revelation.
>>67761898
>blame game
Typical reyfags
Eventually you'll reach the acceptance stage, dont worry
>hating the most beautiful woman to ever grace the entirety of the science fiction genre
Are trying to be this much of a faggot.
>>67761843
>>67761855
>>67761860
wew lads, she let the Force in and her overall competence can be explained by her background.
>>67761898
Most of these characters don't pick up skills in no time.
I don't think people get this at all. They explain WHY she can do all these things, but the problem isn't that they're inexplicable things... it's that she does pretty much everything and doesn't need any help. In comparison to any one character in the film, especially Finn who is the only other newcomer with more than 5 minutes of screen time (and with such classic lines as "Droid, please"), Rey accomplishes far, far much more.
The underlying messge throughout the film is that she doesn't need any help, can do pretty much anything, and is loved by everyone. THAT'S what matters, not the why.
>>67761930
That's not how the force works
>>67762017
I'm pretty sure that her character arc is figuring out that she needs to quit being an isolated autist and accept her destiny.
>>67761919
>ywnfdriasu
jdimfsa
>>67761951
You mean like a backwater bumpkin who blew up the Death Star the first time he got into a starfighter?
She's just short of parody tbqh.
>>67762017
>it's that she does pretty much everything and doesn't need any help
She's a lone scavenger with no friends, that's believable. She should've failed mind tricking the trooper though.
>>67762077
>you will never fuck daisy ridley in a school uniform
just die in my fucking sleep already
movie was boring and by the numbers but /tv/ is still retarded and rey is still a cutie patootie
>>67762102
thanks for the translation
>>67761788
>all these butthurt fanboys
>>67761898
Luke wasn't.
>>67762148
The only thing Luke wasn't good at was getting not letting sand people sneak up on him.
>>67762148
vader had a stomach ache at the end of rotj and couldnt put up a fight.
>>67761930
>her overall competence can be explained by her background.
no it can't
>>67762148
So who taught Luke how to use the Force to pull his lightsaber out of the ice in the yeti-thing's cave?
>>67762082
>First time he got into a starfighter
It's explicitly stated that he flew all the fucking time on tatooine. His mentioned past experience like beggars canyon and shooting womp rats gave him a fighting chance. And getting some training in the force from one of the most powerful Jedi in the last century led to him being able to use the force--for a few seconds. In no way is Luke the same scenario as Rey.
>>67761788
>HURR I BYPOSSED DA COMPROSSA WITH MY SMUG FUCKING FACE :^D
>>67762082
>blew up the Death Star the first time he got into a starfighter?
>"I used to bull's-eye womp rats in my T-16 back home"
>>67762082
That country bumpkin spent time flying a ship of similar spec to the X-Wing, practicing shooting at targets the size of the Death Star vent.
Rey was never taught to purposefully utilise the force, or use a lightsaber, but excelled against an experienced practitioner of both.
>>67762181
she survived for like 10 years alone in a desert, that's enough to become competent in a fairy tale.
>>67762206
>It's explicitly stated that he flew all the fucking time on tatooine.
Not starfighters, just speeder bikes
Rey had pretty much the same experiences on Jakku that Luke had on Tatooine
>>67762161
And not getting rekt in Cantinas
And not getting grabbed by tentacle monsters
And not having his friends die to save him
And not shooting a gun with his eyes open
And not getting rekt by Wompas
And not failing all of Yoda's tests
And not getting rekt by Vader
And not failing at using a Jedi mind trick
And not having to be saved about 6 times throughout the series
Do you think Mark Hamill was excited to get the Star Wars offer only to find out he appeared in the last minute?
>>67762194
>yeti-thing's
It's called a Wampa you fucking normie. And he taught himself over a period of 3 years
>>67762194
Presumably a year or two of time to learn that shit.
>>67762243
the T-16 skyhopper is some sort of aircraft with similar controls to the X-Wing not a speeder bike
>>67762243
Yeah, he wasn't Mary Sue or anywhere near Rey whatsoever. Luke is basically the hero's journey except he didn't get the girl at the end.
>>67762243
>Not starfighters
He literally owned a fucking T-16
>>67762243
X-Wings are outfitted with the same controls as a T-16 Skyhopper.
>>67762217
>compressor
lol I almost stopped watching there.
TFA sucked almost as bad as the prequels.
>>67762217
>DIS IS THE MILINIUM FOLLCON INNIT. YOU'RE AN SOLEOW
What did she mean by this?
>>67761919
she looks like axl rose
>people are seriously trying to argue Luke was a Mary Sue
What a bunch of know nothing faggots. I bet TFA was your first SW movie, if you can call it that.
>>67762017
Again, you're missing the point. You can explain away any Mary bullshittery with internal universe logic. But it's not actually stopping the character from being a Mary Sue. Literally the only time Rey needed something she couldn't do herself to escape the Death Star III in the falcon. If that wasn't even there she probably just would have grabbed some shuttle.
>>67762161
I distinctly remember a whole movie where Luke couldn't do shit so he met some old green thing to train but he was impatient and went to fight Vader too early and almost died and lost his hand. Pretty sure earlier in that same movie he almost died by getting lost in a snowstorm after getting fucked by a yeti.
>>67762247
He's joked about that actually, he's a very jovial fellow.
>>67762329
He seems like he'd be a good friend.
yes she was a shitty mary sue at that
If you're going to make a character a mary sue, at least cast someone pretty for the role.
>>67762320
Luke was pretty much perfect in ANH
Maybe Rey will make some mistakes and get fucked up like Luke did in her 2nd movie
>>67762345
And an especially good boyfriend.
>>67762420
Hey, man, Luke was the best bush pilot in the outer-rim territories. You get a title like that muff-diving, not nudging fudge, ya hear.
>>67762417
>Luke was pretty much perfect in ANH
>whiny and rude little shit who pretty much did nothing but get his ass kicked the entire time
Have you even seen this movie?
>>67762417
>Luke was pretty much perfect in ANH
He was a whiny little shit in ANH.
![145678987654000].webm](https://i.imgur.com/oslxNk8.jpg "145678987654000].webm")
>>67762417
>Luke was pretty much perfect in ANH
>>67762457
>>67762459
>>67762479
Character development.
>>67762479
>Luke was pretty much perfect in ANH
>>67762243
He said that in a room full of experienced X-Wing pilots and no one told him to STFU, so it's not too much of a stretch to imagine they were similar.
>>67762493
>Luke was pretty much perfect in ANH
>>67762417
Only thing he was good at was piloting.
>>67761788
Okay. Moving on like normal human beings now.
>>67762447
>implying Luke wasn't the local glory hole of Tatooine
>>67762554
AND being a manlet that gets mocked by his sister.
>>67762616
>turbo womanlet making fun of a manlet's height
Leia is a cunt.
>>67762554
So? The only thing Rey was god at was piloting too. She was perfect at it, in fact.
And fixing things.
And melee fighting.
And force-wielding.
And being loved by everyone instantly.
Oh.
>>67762672
I don't give a shit about Rey, I was just arguing with the guy that said Luke was a Mary Sue.
>>67761788
she was the most mary sue character ever, the definition of mary sue.
>dude im the best at everything
>everyone loves me and recognizes that im the chosen one
>is there anything i cant do on first try? nope ;)
It was like bad fan fiction. I couldn't stand any of the characters.
>>67762663
It's in her genes.
>>67762479
>>67762493
>>67762550
Anon pls,my dick can't take much more
>>67762696
That was the really annoying thing about this flick. It felt like every other character was just along for the ride and doesn't do anything after Rey is introduced.
Why was Finn and Poe even in this flick?
>>67762161
Maybe you watched a different movie there chief, because the Luke I saw constantly got his shit pushed in.
>>67762194
It took him all of three minutes to do that. maREY Sue however pulled that son of a bitch through the air in a fucking instant, out force pulling a competent dark jedi Master.
>>67762082
he didn't blow up shit, he used the force to TIME THE FUCKING SHOT THAT DID. The missiles did the rest. All he had to do was to line up the shot and fire. Targeting computer couldn't do that.
maRey Sue however wouldn't need an x wing or to time shit, she would have just blown up the shit with the force of will.
>>67762672
maRey Sue was the most boring character ever. The only person I found to be almost as intolerable as she was was Triple X. But at least he was a career Daredevil which could explain 55% of why he was as good as he was. Ice Cube's Triple X was special forces but he was also a kind of Gary Stu.
But Rey trumps the both of them by far. She's a trash collector, and a Falcon expert, and an expert at hand to hand, and good at talking any language she needs to speak, be they droid, wookie or what have you. She's a grand master at the force. Like Luke could teach this Mary Sue anything, she'll be teaching him a thing or two.
>>67762103
Cute for a rodent, I suppose.
>>67762741
>Why was Finn and Poe even in this flick?
Diversity
>>67762752
>competent dark jedi Master
Kylo Ren wasn't exactly that competent
>>67762790
He was competent enough to stop an energy bolt mid-flight.
>>67762752
You think it's bad now, wait until the next one where Rey will have had years of training under her belt. I bet she'll become a literal Force God being by the end of the new trilogy.
Her character was a mary sue and the actor of Rey was terrible
Boyega and Isaac were top notch.
The film takes a fucking MASSIVE nose dive when they introduce legacy characters like Han Solo and start paying fan service.
Everything before Han Solo was so good though.
>>67762811
and he couldn't do it again when Chewie shot him. Chewie confirmed Mary Sue.
>>67762811
>>67762790
Goddamit it's retarded how Kylo jobs to Rey after we see him mindfuck people without effort and stop laser bolts mid air.
The opening act of the film was very promising, too bad about the baggage they
>Kylo the master apprentice of EVIL DARK MASTER LORD.
Can't beat a scrawny scavenger, that's using laser saber for the first time in her life, in a laser saber fight
>>67762902
>Boyega and Isaac were top notch.
All Boo did was sweat and Iscaaw wuz barely in the movie, yet I keep hearing what a great job they did...
>>67762907
I won't even grace your retardedness with a proper answer.
>>67762921
I actually liked him a lot more when he was competent. When they showed how much of a failure he was, he lost all appeal as a villain.
>>67762921
Kylo was conflicted and Abrams wasn't very subtle about it.
>>67762982
I have no issue with Kylo's writing or narrative. Okay, he might be little bit too edgy for now, but scene where he offs his father was honestly very good. Driver's acting was great, too good for this shitty series cashing in on nostalgia and capeshit.
>>67762989
I know, I don't like the writing there. He sure is conflicted, but he was conflicted when he stopped the laser bolt and read people's minds without effrot.
I wouldn't even mind him jobbing to Rey if Rey was established jedi or something
>>67762217
oi i fuckin 'ate this part, i do.
>>67762989
This. What's there not to get?
>>67762724
Luke abuse is not for sexual!
>>67763021
Because you shouldn't still job to a person that's holding laser saber for the first time and hasn't fought with one ever.
>>67762217
>>67762724
can't have too many webms of Luke fucking up
and yet reyshits will still call him a sue to make her look better
>>67763019
>I have no issue with Kylo's writing or narrative. Okay, he might be little bit too edgy for now, but scene where he offs his father was honestly very good.
He's a good character but a bad villain. The tension in the film should come from you rooting for the good guys. When the villain is literally retard tier, it's hard to root for or even sympathize with Rey.
>>67763022
>>67762479
>>67762493
>>67762550
literally the perfect stableboy-turned ebin hero fantasy protagonist. casting doesn't get any better than this.
>>67763019
>he was conflicted when he stopped the laser bolt and read people's minds without effrot
Doubt. At least not on the same level when he interrogated Rey and killed Han.
>>67763112
>He's a good character but a bad villain
I've said this a lot. Kylo is interesting as a character, but a really shitty villain. There's just no great sense of intimidation like there was with Vader or Sheev.
>>67763112
>The tension in the film should come from you rooting for the good guys
nah it should come from good writing.
>retard tier
hmm?
>>67763125
Still shouldn't job to a scavenger that has zero training like that. It's just makes her a mary sue (bad) and the 'villain' not much of a scare
>>67763167
>nah it should come from good writing.
Good writing encompasses understanding where the tension comes from.
>hmm?
He's throwing sissy fits ffs. He's obviously on the far end of the spectrum.
Kylo is also an awful character. He stops a bolt, puts mary sue in a coma. At first he seems pretty darn powerful but then he doesn't use any of those powers at the ending fight, not only that, mary sue dominates the fight. Which also doesn't make any sense because he's physically much stronger than her, all he had to do was push down his lightsaber and bye bye mary sue
>>67763112
>He's a good character
He's essentially a refurbished Zuko. There's nothing particularly new about his character that hasn't been done to death in recent media.
>>67763244
he doesn't understand the force
>>67761788
And you're definitely not a cock sucking, faggot.
>>67763112
I found it hard to root for the good guys at all. Not even edgy, there were no sympathetic characters. It was all fake as shit. JJ is shit.
>>67763260
I don't watch weebshit.
>>67763265
He can still use the following powers
>force them to not move
>put them in a coma
>force push them
There's no real reason why he lost that fight
>>67763260
Zuko was a good character. And I never said he was original.
>>67763115
Can't rebuke the Luke.
>>67763311
he got shot, got saber slashed by Fin, and then had to fight an obvious force prodigy in Rey. He's also obviously a bit of a poser with very little real battle experience.
>>67763244
Kylo Ren is the most interesting character in the movie - only Finn was equally engaging.
Rey is cartoonish and Poe is simply a convinient plot device.
Kylo could`ve been fleshed out a lot more but I like him - a Dark Side character we haven`t seen in Star Wars yet.
You can argue Anakin was that but it just fell flat and booring - Driver did a fantastic with the character and the lines he was given.
That said, I`m very worried where they`ll take him - I think in the short-medium term he`ll be a lot more focues, properly menacing and Dark but eventually him killing Han will come and haunt him, leading to his redemption.
We already saw glimpses of that after the commited the patricide - he feels weak, shocked and confused. He thought doing what Vader did not do will only strengthen him.
Ultimately, Kylo is a good person. He has been deluded and is deluding himself in to thinking he has a chance of being what his ancestor was - if you end up begging Vaders ''corpse'' to empower you with his abilities, shit is not working for you.
I will not be surprised if in Episode MCMLXXV someone will be telling the tale of ''The Tragedy of Ben Solo the Decieved''.
>>67763244
>all he had to do was push down his lightsaber
He was instructed to bring her to Snoke.
>>67763333
It's heavily implied he killed Luke's students and Luke ran away from him for a reason. Kylo only fucked up this time due to the shit with Han. It's basically like how Vader got overpowered at the last minute by Luke in ROTJ, he was too conflicted to fight properly.
>>67763366
>this copypasta again
End yourself.
>>67763333
>he got shot, got saber slashed by Fin,
Yeah but why even bother fighting Finn?
>Force push him
>He hits another tree
>Won the fight
Everyone brings up that he was shot but really? Using the force if you're physically weak only makes more sense, not less.
>>67763312
Zuko was good because he was fresh and explored well. Kylo feels like a watered down retread of the same old trope.
>>67763399
sneak attacking possibly unarmed student jedi isn't the same as real live fights against real live jedi.
>>67763447
who the fuck even is zuko?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FjTdGLqpzE
Snoke bullies Ben.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KABZXbRAgHY
>>67763501
>when you're such a Mary Sue that even the villain falls in love with you
Rey confirmed for shit.
>>67763545
this is so problematic
>>67762329
That's really cute, you could tell he was overwhelmed with excitement at how stardom hit him after Star Wars came out.
>>67763608
He's still basically the same now even in his '60s.
>>67763545
>Finn instantly likes her
>Han instantly likes her
>Chewie instantly likes her
>Leia instantly likes her
>Kylo instantly likes her
REY A SHIT
SHIIIIIIIT
>>67763744
>YFW they run into these clowns
>they instantly like her
>>67763744
Han only liked her when she bypassed the compressor
>>67763260
But Zuko never was never the main villain. Even in season 1 that was Zhao, then Azula in 2, then Ozai in 3.
>>67763021
confusion, sadness, anger, loss, these are the things that strengthens the darkside. Vader was burnt to a crisp over 95% of what remained of his body, you think he wasn't in constant agony? But pain is also a part of the darkside. That's why Ren was punching his wound.
Ren jobbed to Rey because Disney's not big on allowing their Princesses the lime light two films removed. Rey had to be all powerful because she's Disney's new Tiara Princess. And every Princess by film's end, gets her Tiara.
>>67763830
He follows the similar trope, like Draco Malfoy, Loki, Snape, etc.
>>67763823
>they instantly disliked qt Luke for no reason
>they'd instantly like Rey for no reason
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>/tv/ trying desperately to find a meme word to discredit something they want to but can't in their own thoughts and words.
>>67763908
You don't need a meme word to label Rey as a shit character.
>>67764006
>>67763823
>>67761788
(You)
>>67763850
>yfw she was one of the new Padawans at Lukes Academy with an incredible potency in the Force and Kylo saved her from Snoke
>People are literally comparing Luke's fight with a Sith Lord to Reys fight with a Sith who has unfinished training
Wew
>Han, Chewie and Finn are risking their lifes to save Rey from the dangerous Kylo, with the not-death stars shield as an afterthought
>Meanwhile she have escaped on her own, have made Kylo her bitch and is going full Solid Snake on the not-empire
Is there anything she cant do? Im surprised she didn't just disable the shields on her own too
>>67764126
Yes.
>>67764167
>a Sith
There are no Sith`s in TFA.
Not one.
>>67764214
that's what they want you to think
>>67763366
Imagine being Kylo in that scene and having to be all like "damn, Rey, you fuckin' strong, all powerful with your tight body and horrific xenomorph monster face. I would totally want to train you, both as my apprentice and as a peer." when all he really wants to do is torture another 16 year old in his interrogation room. Like seriously imagine having to be Kylo and not only stand next to that chair while Rey gurns her teeth in front of you, the favorable lighting barely concealing her vampiric fangs, and just sit there, take after take, hour after hour, while she perfected that dgrimace. Not only having to tolerate her monstrous fucking visage but her haughty attitude as everyone on base tells her she's GOT IT and DAMN, REY HAS POWERS LIKE *THAT*?? because they're not the ones who have to sit there and watch her mannish fucking gremlin face contort into types of grimaces you didn't even know existed before that day. You've been killing nothing but a healthy diet of force sensitives and jedi and later alleged spinning victims for your ENTIRE CAREER coming straight out of the boonies in Coruscant. You've never even seen anything this fucking weak before, and now you swear you can taste the sweat that's breaking out on her dimpled forehead as she sucks it in to resist it suggestively at you, smugly assured that you can't break in due to her "mysterious (for that is what she calls herself)" power, the power she worked so hard for with the plot in the previous months. And then Snoke calls for another try, and you know you could kill every single person in the star system before the First Order could put you down, but you stand there and endure, because you're Kylo fucking Ren. You're not going to lose your future antagonist career over this. Just bear it. Hide your face and bear it.
>>67763744
And poe instantly like finn too.
And finn instantly like poe.
Are you just jealous that people can get liked instantly unlike you?
>>67764229
And I believe them.
Why? Because Disney is hellbent on shying away from PT and OT.
I won`t be surprised if this ST will see the end of Skywalker lineage so that they can spawn their original Spacetreader family storyline.
>>67764167
Unfinished training you say. And yet he used the most potent force ability ever seen. Two of them in fact. Force interrogation and Force Freeze. Snoke saying he needed to complete his training doesn't mean that A VERITBLE NOBODY, who for the better part of a decade and some collected junk, could beat a trained force user. At the very least, Ren is as good as any Jedi master. At the very least.
All of you use that crap about him being injured to explain why Rey beat him but you forget, she even acquired mastery of Force telepathy when he was in the best of health.
say it with me, maRey Sue!
>>67764167
And Luke trained for the better part of a year. That's the time between ESB and ROJ. Rey just heard about the force a few hours before and is now, a force master? Luke failed repeatedly as he learned the Force. And even jobbed to the Emperor. But were it maRey Sue however...
>>67764182
>Is there anything she cant do?
act
She has a shitty actor and is a mary sue.
>>67764263
this. the good guys start loving each other after they share like two lines of dialogue in the movie.
Hux and Kylo bantz were top notch tho
>>67764214
Isn't Snek a sith?
>>67764263
I'll give you that much, sure. But post Han's death instead of Chewie Leia hugs Rey, a smelly garbage collecting trollop she just met?
>>67764334
He's bigger and badder than the sith
>>67764363
for you
OH MY GOD
WILL YOU JUST STOP
EVERY DAY
EVERY SINGLE FUCKING DAY
"REY IS/ISN'T A MARY SUE"
"IS REY A MARY SUE"
"MARY SUE MARY SUE MARY SUEEEE"
I HAD NO FUCKING IDEA WHAT MARY SUE EVEN MEANT UNTIL THIS FILM CAME OUT
STOP USING FUCKING BUZZWORDS EVERY DAY
CHRIST
>>67764334
https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/705429495436578816
>>67764379
What`s the problem, mister?
>>67764263
>two characters instantly liked each other as opposed to several characters - even ones notoriously frosty like Chewie - liking one character they just met
Are you retarded?
>>67764379
I know for certain that Rey is a cute
>>67764341
That`s a mistake JJ has acknowledged.
>>67764455
She's hideous. She sacrificed her personal integrity and dignity to be pounded by some black guy while a Jew behind the camera rubs his hands together with glee
>>67764455
Luke is a cuter.
>>67764465
He need not acknowledge anything other than the obviousness that Rey's an amalgamation of JJ wanting to be the cool hero in star wars and found an outlet in Rey (because in our day dreams we're cool and the best at everything because it's our day dreams), and Disney wanting a Tiara Princess who by film's end triumphs over evil like every Tiara Princess before Rey has.
>>67764381
>I watched the entire movie and I didn't know that
Still, he's basically sith because what else is he, exactly? A neutral force-wielder that wants to... bring down the republic? His end goal seems to be to kill jedi but he wants Rey alive so I don't know
>>67764512
>Han bats Luke, who is a skilled pilot, away and generally acts like a condescending fuck to him
>also behaves like this to Leia
>yet pats Rey's ass because "muh compressah"
Goddammit, the writing in TFA is shit. Everyone just likes everyone right away for no real reason.
>>67762082
>after being saved from a basic TIE by wedge
>and after his new friend saves him from his father
>and with Kenobi ghost help
>>67764454
Firstly, Chewie didn't just fall in love with her the second he saw her, He just gave her a shot.
And there are people who with certain personalities that get liked quickly by other people. (not that I think Ray has a charismatic personality, but I think that's what they were going for)
>>67764512
>>67764455
>tfw straight and would stick fuck Luke over Rey
she looks inbred
>>67764536
Sith is just a school of thought - Rule of Two and all that shite.
You can be Dark Side user without being a Sith - and Snoke not being a Sith fulfills The Prophecy of the Chosen One.
>>67764576
>And there are people who with certain personalities that get liked quickly by other people.
In Rey's case, simply existing is enough to get people to like her.
>>67764455
>>67764512
They're both cute.
Daisy is adorable in real life, but loses cute points due to Rey being such an insufferable character.
>>67764675
>>67762884
she is going to use the dark force but while being good at the same time.
also sub-plot of her feeling guilty after dark side killing some evil white dude
>>67764946
See, Daisy is cute and very endearing. Why did she have to get stuck playing such a bland character?
>>67764057
>Anakin and Obi Wan will force ghost to Rey
>they'll instantly like her
>>67764946
>>67765031
Obi Wan already's done it. Though not in his ghost form.
>>67765038
DELETE THIS
>>67765058
I CAN'T
I agree she is a QT Sue
uggo
No, Rey, I am your husband.
>>67765281
What did he mean by this?
Kylo Ren was by far the best written character followed by Boyega's TRAITOR, which isn't saying much since everything that wasn't Kylo was dog shit.
Even the actors outside Driver were fucking hojrrible lmao
>>67764167
Kylo showcased Vader levels of bullshit force use, not even Luke could match it in original trilogy (he only 'defeats' Vader with THE POWER OF LOVE)
>>67765324
Why the fuck she`s carrying that staff around all the time.
You`ve got a fucking lightsaber now.
Her accent was like nails on a chalkboard too:
>WE GOTTA GIT TO DA QWOD JUMPAH
>OI BOIPAHSSED DA CUMPRESSAH
Why does Boyega have to put on an American accent while she gets to keep her cringy as fuck bong accent?
>>67765281
>>67765324
Good fucking god that helicopter shot in the end was fucking terrible like holy shit that was some Mexican telenovela tier directing and cinematography
fucking hell
>>67765429
Rey is a Disney Character (tm) that needs strong identifying gadgets so she can sell toys.
Also the bullshit fucking WE ARE DIVERSE SEE DIVERSE (with backdrop thought: buy our toys buy our toys gib money) was fucking annoying
>>67765324
>that power stance
>>67765431
Boojega and Driver were better than anyone else wrt. to acting (not counting CGI creatures)
>>67765423
Kylo`s powers are not that impressive - he cant choke others from distance, he could stop the blaster bolt mid-air but he didnt absord it like Vader did and he only tortured Poe - a non-Force sensitive.
Vader has actually had experiences in dealing with Jedis, Kylo has had (as far as we know) zero challengers - Snoke says ''even you, the Master of Knights of Ren, have never faced such a test'' when talking about Rey/Han.
Kylo is not as powerful as you think he is.
>>67765459
Skellig has a lot of restrictions where you can and can`t shoot or for how long even if you can.
>>67765423
>(he only 'defeats' Vader with THE POWER OF LOVE)
Why didn't he try using that again with Kylo? It's his greatest power.
>>67765517
I know right, but that doesn't excuse the fucking atrocious ending scene.
>>67765538
Power of Love is too OP it was nerfed due to 9/11 terrorist attacks in ALL OF mainstream American cinema.
Rememeber kids power of love is the most powerful force in the world.
no yoke
>>67765493
No, you dumb shit, Snoke was obviously referencing the emotional conflict Kylo would deal with when it came to Han/Rey, and that obviously handicapped him throughout the duration of the movie. You don't get to be a feared leader by being a weak little shit.
>>67765538
Han tried - Kylo turned down the chance of redemption.
>>67765493
Didn't he slaughter the jedi?
>>67765604
Han lacks dem blue puppy dog eyes though and is inexperienced with using love powers.
>>67765615
As far as we know, those were just Padawans.
And considering the age of Ben - he was the oldest in the group, a safe assumption I think.
10/10 kino t b h mi familia
saw it 7 times in the cinéma
rey a cute,boyega is a bro,kylo is fun in his own autistic way
>>67765576
>emotional conflict
When will this meme end? Bad writing. Don't overthink it.
>>67765720
>Bad writing
nah, it's pretty clever with clues lying around
>>67765720
It was pretty obvious m8.
>>67763465
>he didn't watch Rebels
>>67766200
>Rebels
>Zuko
uwotm8
Rey's character development was flawed.
But I still liked the movie and look forward to the next one.
>>67766347
Rey's tiny body can't even compete
>>67765538
Because that Anon was wrong.
It all stems from him using his power "You have failed, your highness", which reset Sheev's high ground that he gained with "it's treason, then."
>>67766389
>implying the sick "then my father is truly dead" burn power followed by the ~POWER OF LOVE~ wasn't what truly turned the tides
>>67766382
>can't even compete
Agreed.
>>67766287
Is it your first day on 4chan?
I was TROLLING him
>>67766532
>girls can't be sexy anymore
thanks, disney
>>67766585
>No bras in space
Why didn't they carry through with George's vision and have her topless?
>>67766382
They do this all the time.
Look at women's romance flicks or who's on the cover of their magazines. Those women all have small breasts and aren't too beautiful, so the female audience doesn't get jealous.
Not even meming and I don't hate women, it's just true.
>>67766532
>>67766585
Her face is shit though.
>>67763022
WOW LUKE IS SUCH A MARY SUE
>>67766672
Just look at this over powered badass.
>>67766585
>girls can't be sexy anymore
I don't mind trading sexy for badass. But at least show me some development. When Rey did the Jedi mind trick on the stormtrooper I shook my head. It was a bit too much too fast for my liking.
Now juxtapose Rey's development with Finn. Finn was great IMO. He was an interesting character. And every time he picked up the lightsaber he ended up getting his ass kicked.
>>67766558
oh wow cool , yeha i know about trolling , this website is pretty neat
You guys just don't like a competent female protagonist. It's as simple as that.
I hope Rey's character isn't more shitty in VIII.
>>67766347
>>67766532
>>67766585
>>67766753
Luke's face is prettier than Leia's, no homo
>>67766753
>Finn was great IMO
He's very similar to Luke and should've been the only protagonist desu. But he can't be Luke's son cos he's black, so here's Rey.
>>67766843
but I like Milla Jovovich's Alice you dumbfuck
>>67766843
Year, /tv/ detests Alien, Aliens, The Terminator, Terminator 2, and Under the Skin for example.
Bunch of misogynists.
>>67766891
>>67766753
I thought Finn would be the real hero, but Disney tricked me.
>>67761788
why does she have british accent
is she Sheev's long lost gtandgranddaughter? Is this pottery all over again?
>>67766847
She'll probably have a similar level of competency, but I'm hopeful in the fact that it might actually be justified in the next one, making her less obnoxious overall.
>>67766941
Because she's a Kenobi.
nah, she's just a shitty actress
>>67766941
Sheev one side, Obi Wan the other.
Don't tell me you didn't see the significance of her having the high ground at the end, or how she resisted Kylo's mental manipulations when she was at a different elevation, allowing her to have the high ground from a certain point of view..
>>67766847
Do you think she and Adam fucked in between the takes?
>>67766995
>the significance of her having the high ground
>>67767081
Stop asking this, you freak.
>>67767081
>>67767132
>she has literally no shape
>his entire face is nose
reylos are sick in the head tbqh
I thought the part where she got her ass eaten in front of a group of younglings was a bit much
>>67767336
>I know I don't have experience running from the police like you people do, but I'm perfectly capable of running on my own!
What was JJ thinking?
>>67763366
>Kylo Ren is the most interesting character in the movie - only Finn was equally engaging.
finn should be an interesting character but he's not
after five minutes of looking conflicted at the start of the movie he's basically a full-blown rebel and you could easily forget that he used to be a stormtrooper. they do next to nothing with that idea of a stormtrooper-turned-good, which could be interesting.
>>67767184
Cute. CUTE!
>>67767372
another thing I thought was weird:
>Finn starts choking on some food, falls to the ground and keeps trying to say "help me"
>Han walks over to him, says "I'll help you"
>Han unzips his pants and starts pissing into Finn's mouth
>Rey starts laughing
I know Han is supposed to be funny but come on
>>67767628
Rey:
>huge square shaped head
>rocky masculine jaw you could cut glass on
>no lips
>fivehead
>xenomorph mouth
>gremlin ears
Kylo:
>oblong face that looks like it's been stretched to the limit
>massive Jew nose
>crooked jaw
>fucked teeth
>bad skin
>dumbo ears
Their children would be circus level freakshows.
>>67761788
>>67767792
Post your pic.
I never even stopped to think about their lips, they are average. Unless you are black. Are you a nigger?
>>67767828
>you're ugly XD
>you're black XD
The desperate cry of a Reylosperg.
>>67767854
confirmed for nigger
>>67767792
M-maybe their looks will cancel each other out.
>>67767888
>tfw pure Aryan background
>tfw easily triggering reylo shippers
Stay mad over fapping to two uggos, faggot.
>>67767903
Yes.
>>67767928
>pure Aryan background
That's very rare nowadays.
>>67767805
kek holy shit, she really is a Sue.
>>67767936
Why did he rape her?
>>67767903
They absolutely would - their kids wouldnt have that five head and they wouldnt have that big nose.
Strong chin game, strong hair game.
Handsome Skywalker confirmed.
We have to wait for the other movies come out to really determine if she is a Marry Sue.
She's still poorly written and an asshole though.
>hurrr I can do everything perfectly except tally hurrrrrr
>>67761788
She's a Skywalker.
>>67769053
is she?
Judging by lukes performance in his trilogy, he should be studying under rey after just one of her own movies
Sure she wasn't bruh. Sure she wasn't...
so what are you going to ask her about?
My small changes to make the movie better
>We spend much more time with Fin, hes a trooper for first 60 minutes
>those scenes are interwoven with long ray scenes Ray who does more shit on desert, we watch her wander the emptiness do some cool shit, train, have some people who help her learn to fly and shoot
>after that same shit happens,/crash escape and Fin betrayal of his masters
>they meet Han already on the ship, he has the only working ship on the planet currently and si doing a job, they have to sneak onto it to escape
Already well over a hour into the movie
>we cut out entire fucking fight with aliens on ship and that weird brown short chick
>they go directly to rebel base
again shit goes on like before
>no han death
>directly fight in the forest
>Fin gets his ass kicked and cut up
>Ray gets wrecked by Kylo even more
>Han shows up, Saves Ray and Fin but dies in process
>shot blows up
the end
This wont fix all problems, mostly the starkiller being so big problems and the new empire making 0 sense politically and will introduce a new one with Han getting little screen time
But, it will give a loooot of time to develop both Ray and Fin as separate characters that dont have to rely on each other, and will also remove the mary sue aspect if by the en everything Ray knows turns out to be worth shit all if she ever meets a trained force user
Also sine my ideas are mostly cut cut cut cut cut cut, the pacing would get less chaotic and feel slower and more grand, our first trip to another planet would actually feel like something important
