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Martha? Why did you say that name?
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Martha? Why did you say that name?
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>>67722465
>Schmitt

oy vey!
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>>67722465
she was a big guy
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>>67722465
So this movie sucked, right? No one actually thinks it's capekino or whatever?
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>>67722763

No it was great. The 'Martha' scene people who havent watched the movie joke about was beautiful
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Tell me about Martha, why does she wear the pearls?
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>>67722465
YOU'RE NOT A MAN RRUUUAAGHAGAGH

>>67722763
Au contraire
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>>67722763
It's capekino, and if the Martha scene went over your head you are pleb.

Sorry.
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>>67722465
>If there's a 1% chance Superman is bad, we have to treat it as an absolute certainty
>His mother's name is Martha!
>I failed him in life...

The most interesting part of this whole debacle is that DCfags will actually defend this.
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>>67722861
I'm cautiously tempted to watch it in the theater but memesters go pretty far to sell their memes these days so I don't know who to trust anymore.
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He was a big guy. Like me.
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>>67722763
Are you that much of a faggot that you need to be verified that people have the same opinion as you, or not?
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>>67722763
The movie was pretty good, fuck off marvelkek
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>>67723062
I just want an honest opinion rather than memeing but /tv/ is one of the worst places for that. Obviously I can safely ignore any post that contains:

pleb
masterpiece
capekino
kino
based

But still.
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Imagine Batman beating the shit out of Bane, and then Bane just says "martha". Is martha the kryptonite of Batman? Is this the deep meaning Snyder was talking about?
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>>67723170
Kek, reminds me of Freddy vs Jason when Jason was afraid of water for some dumb reason.
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>>67722465
YOUR DOOMSDAY
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>>67722965
>he didn't get it
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>>67722763
Ignore their meme opinions. The movie was quite meh and a whole desaster when it comes to editing and being subtle. Watch Road to perdition if you want a good comic book movie
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>>67722891
anyone wondering about what the movie is who hasn't watched it, watch it.
then read this >>> >>67722891
but i implore you to not to read about interpretations or opinions. go in as fresh as possible

having questions is not a bad thing
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Stop, invincible son!
Let your mother, Martha, die!
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>>67727908
Bettie Page was sexy as fuck.
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>>67722465
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>>67722763
It was a good movie.
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>>67722763
This movie was great. Engaging action scenes, good acting, beautiful photography and soundtrack.
The problem was the pacing and the crammed stories.

The plot was alright, nothing complex, but not bad either.

Definitely one of the best super hero movies, but that's not saying much.

I rate it at 7/10.
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>>67723205
That did make more sense senpai, Jason had drowned as a child. Granted later films in the series didn't reflect that, but it helped give him a vulnerability in the fight against Freddy. And it didn't stop him wanting to take out Freddy, the fight went on.
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For anyone thinking they might see it, I wasn't the biggest fan of man of steel and was thinking it wouldn't be awful, probably the worst capeshit I've ever seen. The first two hours are boring and make no sense, the story is all over the place, Lex is a joke, superman is an edgelord, some of the Affleck scenes are surprisingly okay, and wonder woman has mashed potatoes in her mouth
I'm so surprised they had such a shitty setup to their big series, and hinted at the next movies with YouTube videos essentially
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I'm Martha and I can tell you it sucked without watching it.
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>>67722465
>m-martha

Wait, say that again?
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>>67728642
Nice try Mable
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>>67722465
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>>67729529
Ey, got the full version of this where Superman plows him through the floor?
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>>67729862
Nope :\
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>>67729999
You could have been a symbol of hope.
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>>67729529
>tfw you realize you should have done a Marvel movie instead
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>>67730205

are marvelkeks and sonyggers the same people? certainly seems that way.
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>>67731682
yes
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zack snyder is literally jesus
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>>67722763
Of course not, it's contrarian /tv/ roleplay
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>>67731682
No.
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>>67722465
>Best Batman yet

He was literally, literally retarded
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>>67725235
And this is there ONLY defence.

>Because it's impossible to get BvS and still think it's AT BEST meh.
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>>67731845

i'm getting the same sense of unwarranted superiority from sonyggers that plague /v/. i mean, it's capeshit
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>>67731845
this person lies for sony/marvel
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WHERE'S RACHEL
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>>67732030
WHERE IS IT

WHERE'S THE TRIGGER
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>>67732009
Well I don't really know how you would reach that conclusion without tests or something. I own every Sony console and I only like a small fraction of marvel movies that are released. I also likes MoS and BvS.
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>>67722465
>William Schmitt
William Schmitt
>William Schmitt
William Schmitt
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>>67732030
>>67732113
WHERE ARE THE DRUGS GOIN'?
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>>67732351
SWEAR TO ME
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>>67733652
WHERE IS SHE
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>>67722465
'Martha' is set up in the opening scene with a Citizen Kane homage that establishes the word as Bruce Wayne's 'Rosebud'. But, as it's actually spoken by the father character, you get a complex series of associations where Bruce suddenly sees Superman as a father figure, who then - when Lois intervenes - morphs into a reflection of himself. You also have this strange fear of motherhood with Bruce as he dreams that Martha Wayne returns from the dead as a monstrous bat (that metaphorically gives birth to Batman), but then he resolves himself to saving Martha Kent - who was, of course, labeled a 'witch' for (again metaphorically) giving birth to Superman.

You have this shift from Batman falling into despair because 'he let his parents die' to turning that into a positive condition ("I failed him in life, I will not fail him in death"). The bat-symbol is fantastically reinterpreted to stand for a child being pulled from the darkness, from the perspective of someone still in it. (Of course, in the Nolan film this shot is referring to, it was Bruce's father who pulled him out. Snyder replaces the literal father with an ambivalent light, and has Bruce pushed up from beneath.)

The film thrives on these types of associations, like the red Jolly Rancher pushed into the senator's mouth - "it's cherry" - coming back as the blood dripped onto Zod's face. It's precisely this uncomfortable reevaluation and redemption of sugary pop imagery that drives the film. "Snyder intends to resolve the conflict between commerce and art," as Armond White notes. The basic thesis is that Superhero franchises are antithetical to what Superman actually stands for.
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ALL FUCKING CAPESHIT POSTERS MUST FUCKING HANG
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>>67735909
Fuck off capeist, We did nothing wrong.
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>>67735942
>Liking capeshit
Yep, nothing wrong at all, you're totally not a fucking faggot
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BRUCE
LISTEN TO ME NOW
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The name list is limited.
Marthan and Wilson aren't in there.
Stop it.
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>>67722465
let me show you that slowmo flashback as subtle as an anvil so you'll get it
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