https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Fsw42prfp8
Zack clearly states here that WB forced his hand in cutting the movie to two and a half hours.
Why are you still blaming him /tv?
>>67692410
People have made up in their minds forever and ever that he's a "hack".
>>67692410
it's really fucking clear they hacked this movie.
>>67692410
Because he's a hack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UD3byJxc9Vc
He has that "I want to cry" face, I can't hate him anymore ;_; "y-you're not a hack z-zack"
>>67692410
what the fuck happened to him
it's like he got JUSTed out of nowhere
>>67692587
fighting with execs then taking the fall for something that wasn't his fault i suppose
poor guy
>Get hired to make a 2 and a half hour movie
>Make a 3 hour movie
>Get mad when they cut it down to 2 and a half hours
This is some next-level hackery
>>67692486
Doesn't mean anything except that he isn't a good public speaker.
>>67692587
He's 50 years old.
>>67692662
hmm that looks like shit
Zack the Hack
>>67692662
>Zach "I watch anime" Snyder
>Zach "my action looks like poorly made bollywood film" Snyder
just how fucking long do his movies have to be before they suddenly become good?
>>67692662
eww
>>67692410
>Man of Steel was fucking awful
>BvS was fucking awful for so many more reasons than just being crammed into a 2.5 hour more
I hate this director. It feels like he has no creative vision other than trying to imitate other popular series and troupes
These movies don't need to be two and a half hours long, let alone three
>>67692410
That 3hr cut better be a goddamned masterpiece
>>67692662
Watching that webm, at first I thought it was a live action Metal Gear Rising movie. Then I realized it was a live action Code Geass movie.
>>67692410
Yeah, Snyder should be allowed to make movies with a running time surpassing the heat death of the universe like he deserves to
>>67692662
Keep in mind Snyder is a guy who, in the commentary for Watchmen, explained all of his stylistic choices from music to editing to composition as "because it looked cool." He's a fucking idiot.
>>67692410
>cutting the movie to two and a half hours
>still nothing happens
WEEEW LAD
>>67693163
Saying all that proves you have no experience actually making a film or student project. You do realize almost every director, composer, and editor admits that they base their decisions on feelings right? But you're probably that pretentious guy who thinks he knows film and that everything has to be logical and so you're mad when people say you're shit.
>>67692410
BvS would be a better movie if they cut another 30 to 40 minutes out. Keep going.
>>67692465
>Hack
>Zack
It's like Potpourri
>>67693735
REKT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=br3ZQDo6nBw
BRAVO
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>>67693735
Bullshit, filmmakers are at least usually able to name some influences and inspirations. In every interview Zack acts like an airhead who has no idea what he's talking about.
>>67693735
You do realize director's commentary is usually a bit deeper than "durr I did that because it looks cool" right?
>>67694422
>needing a reason beyond that for capeshit
>>67694455
It wasn't ordinary capeshit, it was fucking Watchmen.
>>67694337
This is fucking kino in every way
Look at the parallel's between Bruce and Kal's motivations in that scene despite never sharing a moment togther
>>67693735
>>67694455
fucking based
>>67694368
He talks about his influences here
http://thebibleofsnyder.com/2014/zack-snyder-film-influences/
>>67694523
>>67694547
Kill yourself, Charles.
>>67694585
>Beaners,Niggers and Neckbeards
color me suprised
>>67694585
>get btfo in everyway
>k-kill yourself ch-charles ;-;
not even the same guy but fuck man they provided links and shit
>>67694547
>linking to something you wrote
Wow, you aren't even trying to hide the fact that you're Charles.
>>67694679
don't bother, he's just going to call you Charles
>>67694518
>rise
it really is well done on a cinematographic level
>>67694699
It's the first site that came up when I googled "Zack Snyder influences"
>>67694706
that's all the redditors do.
>no argument
>call you names instead
jesus.
>>67694734
This is the first thing that came up when I googled it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UD3byJxc9Vc
>>67692410
>the full capekino experience is even better what we had so far
Thank you Lord Synder.
>>67694518
This video is fucking tense. I love it. seeing the high stakes action on one side and the immediate pain, trauma, and devastation on the other as it happens makes those scenes that much more tense
>>67694547
>Snyder describes “Velvet” saying it rocked his world more than any film he had seen before, saying he exited the theater shaking and exclaims “that’s a movie, that’s how you do it, you crush it like that!”
lol he sounds like a fucking 12yo talking about movies
>>67694838
versus being pretentious about it? I mean he has the enthusiasm of someone much younger than him, that's a plus in my book
>>67694679
Fine, he has coherently listed off his influences. That doesn't excuse his Watchmen commentary. That doesn't excuse the fact that he didn't understand a ton of Watchmen's subtext. That doesn't excuse him being a shit filmmaker who thinks heavy handed Jesus symbolism makes his blockbuster schlock into art.
>>67692410
Bless him
>>67694778
What a fucking dumbass Chad. Why do you guys want him in charge of the DCCU again?
>>67694547
Jesus christ what a fucking manchildren
>>67694337
Capekino is real.
>>67694547
>his favorite movie of all time is fucking Excalibur
>>67695038
Didn't BvS clue you in?
![70-orson-welles-theredlist[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/8oCjFzH.jpg "70-orson-welles-theredlist[1].jpg")
>>67694547
Am I supposed to be impressed by this?
>>67694585
>new GB being kino
yeah make it again
>>67694986
Cause "muh kino"Whoever started the capekino meme managed to successfully ruse half the people into thinking it was real, haven't seen shit like that in years
>>67692410
the movie felt fucking long enough
>>67694337
Damn, BvS added a lot to the MoS scene but wow
>>67695265
>he doesn't know capekino is real
Stand fast fellow auteurs, smash the plebs on the rampant, educate all lowly scum in the essence of high art! Show them, the light of capekino!
>>67695313
Kill yourself, Charles.
>>67695313
The same fucking shot in the well was in Batman Begins you fucking retard
>>67695313
Kill yourself, you have nothing left to hope for here.
>>67692410
If that's true it at least explains why it was so disjointed.
There were other issues but that's my biggest gripe.
>>67692410
So it might've been good if he actually cut out wonder women entirely?
>>67695265
Are you serious?
Did you miss the movement to make the SW prequels good?
This place is full of hipsters.
>>67695376
Hate to spell this stuff out
It's an obvious intentional reference to BB...
>>67695366
>>67695376
>>67695408
The quipcucks gather once more. The fools, they can't stop capekino now. Soon all of /tv/ will be naught but patricians, and all plebs, marveldrones, and redditor will be eradicated.
Welcome to the era of capekino!
Because a movie is long doesn't mean it's good.
It means it's poorly edited.
Watchmen had scenes that ran too long or straight up didn't need to be in there.
>>67694173
This
>>67693163
>>67694422
Why do you need justification? Because that's not the way you would personally articulate your words?
>>67695560
I'll back him up. Snyder came across as a total dum-dum in the Watchmen commentary. I believe he's an airheaded Chad as charged. He should just be a cinematographer, not a director.
>>67692410
As if that shit wasn't interminable as it was already.
>>67692947
30 more minutes of piss jars.
Last time Snyder got full creative control we got his masterpiece Sucker Punch.
Rumoured scenes from the BvS director's cut:
>Extended North Africa opening segment, with Lois meeting Jimmy and being escorted to the warlord's compound by a group of operators on horseback.
>Another nightmare sequence where Bruce Wayne finds Robin's dead body while Wayne Manor burns to the ground, with the Joker's laugh echoing in the hallways.
>Another scene of Diana at a charity auction.
>Another few scenes of Bruce being depressed.
>Clark Kent interviewing inmates at Blackgate Penitentiary about Batman.
>Clark and Lois pillow talk.
>Superman having a nightmare about Metropolis' destruction.
>Superman having a vision of General Zod showing up in the Arctic to torment him.
>Extended Batmobile chase.
>Extended Batman VS. Superman including Batman's full speech.
>Extended Trinity VS. Doomsday with more violence.
>Extended epilogue with the funerals.
>The Communion scene.So yeah more of the same shit
>>67693735
Stay in school.
>>67692465
Consistently making awful movies'll have that effect.
>>67695855
>implying
So I just watched it. Probably the worst movie I've seen in about 2 years. It's genuinely bad. All cape shit aside, it's the most pretentious stupid garbage I've watched. Even if they cut shit out, the ending is still the ending, and it comes off as two toned.
>>67695874
No, that was direct. Nothing was implied.
>>67695664
That's offensive to Chads.
>>67695376
He was swarmed, but he wasn't lifted into the light by the bats.
>>67692823
This shit. It was too fucking long as it was.
>>67692823
Ask LoTR Fags
>>67692486
>>67694547
>>67694778
He just doesn't want to confuse his manchild audience with obscure references to Romenian New Wave filmmakers
>>67695839
Nothing that adds anything important, while adding filler and more cameos. That's the last thing the movie needs.
I do like the idea of a robin nightmare though.
>>67695839
Would worship Jesus Christ Snyder
>>67695839
Damn, that sounds wonderful. Can't wait to see the Zod scene and burning mansion.
>>67695839
It was weird they didn't explain the mansion being in despair.
I thought Bruce was just being angsty. This makes more sense.
>Man of Steel was bad
Best superman movie if you're not a nostalgiafag.
>>67695876
not enough dance offs for this goy
>>67692410
>"Why are you still blaming him?"
Because he decided that we needed the 2 minute long in-movie trailer for the other JL members, but didn't need the 45 second scene that shows Lex talking to an Apokolips monster and the mother boxes.
There really just is no excuse for fucking up so badly.
>>67692410
>>67692465
>>67692482
>>67692486
>>67696063
>>67696510
>>67696458
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxV99PYX37c&feature=gp-n-y&google_comment_id=z13rcbcitmbrtzbmf22tifdrksvwt1w4b04
>>67696458
>Best superman movie if you're not a nostalgiafag.
Nah m8, this is the best Supes movie
>>67696458
pleb
>>67695038
pleb detected, Excalibur is based af
>>67695038
And? Its one of the best movies of the 20th century
>>67696541
>>67696559
t. imdb drones ffrom /v/
>>67694337
Disgraceful knowing other people scoff at this incredible hard work and dedication.
>>67696530
>he took the time to record and upload this to the internet
>>67696585
No, I watched it on vhs over a decade ago and its magical. Before imbd even existed
>>67692410
Just came back from seeing it. I didn't think it was as bad as all those cry baby "too dark and serious" critics made it out to be.
>>67696585
>implying i'm not a native c/lit/izen
>>67696585
t. tryhard lettercuck'd pleb
>>67692410
>uh
>uhm
>uh
>>67696458
Even Superman Returns was better Zack.
>>67696458
Truth.
>>67692410
why did he shoot a 3 hour movie
try making a good movie in 2 and a half hours at the very most you bitch
>>67696823
>superman returns good
>superman 3 good
>superman 2 more than decent
>superman 1 even having a real villain
Pleb shit, m8
>>67696749
>>67696774
t. imdb drones ffrom /v/
>>67696871
underage pls go
>>67696871
time for bed zack
>>67696908
>justifying superman 1
>Meanwhile, criminal genius Lex Luthor has developed a plan to make a fortune in real estate by buying large amounts of barren desert land and then diverting a nuclear missile test flight to the San Andreas Fault.
OH NOES
Don't get me started on supe 3 and returns.
Take of the nostalgia glasses.
>http://www.dga.org/Craft/DGAQ/All-Articles/1002-Summer-2010/Screening-Room-Zack-Snyder.aspx
The best look into Zack Snyder's kinomaking philosophies.>>67692486
He just didnt feel like explaining all of this to a bunch of comic manchildren. Based tbfh
>>67697167
>Just didn't feel like
yeah right
>>67696585
t. 90s kid
>It's a Zack Snyder joint
>>67693163
>The only reference to cinema and film making I have is that I like Pleb-lettermedia and Half in the Bag
>>67694746
Nice damage control charles
>>67697631
*kino
>>67696853
WB didn't say anything til after it was edited and done and then the MPAA came back R and that was the tipping point for them to cut it
>>67698986
i can't believe that scene went over so many people's heads
>>67699057
The MPAA is an archaic and unnecessary institution.
>>67699082
It didn't. Nobody doesn't understand what they were going for. It's just shit
>>67696519
>he decided
>implying it wasn't the studio demanding this scene for JL setup
2 and a half hour is more than enough for a fucking movie where Batman and Superman fight. Heck, I'm pretty sure most DC animated features are like an hour or so and do a better job.
>>67699165
>It didn't
That comic that was posted itself is proof that it did
You give the average moviegoer way too much credit
>needing more than two hours to make a flick
fuck me bunch of pretentious cunts
>>67692410
Yeah, that's what the movie needed: 30 more minutes of liquid shit.
Snyder is an incomparable auteur, an artistic maverick.
Batman v Superman is the most powerful film I've seen since Idi i smotri. The most touching work of art since Au hasard Balthazar. The most pioneering cinema since Le Voyage dans la Lune.
it'scapekino.
>>67699153
I'm a libertarian, so i agree
>>67699400
Don't label yourself, anon.
We're not tumblr.
>>67699362
He's a cock cavalier, a protein diavolo.
>>67692721
Never saw this movie (man if steel?) Bollywood was the first thing that came to mind
>>67699400
>>67699438
It's okay, sires. We all own fedoras around here.
Tip of the hat to you.
>>67699270
DC animated features are the absolute worst capeshit. Makes marvel garbage look like patrician cinema.
>>67693735
They won't exactly remember what happens in a film, just how it made them feel
>>67699494
Says the retard who thinks Zack Snyder produces digestible media.
>>67699494
>DC animated features are the absolute worst capeshit.
Holy shit someone get this hothead out of here.
>directors cut is half an hour longer
>>67699082
It's truly scary. I hate knowing how we are surrounded by so many plebs.
What can man do in face of such boundless ignorance?
>>67693163
He's a genius when it comes to visuals and a poor storyteller. Give him a great script and don't let him edit his movies and we're in for a masterpiece.
>>67699797
>and don't let him edit his movies
don't force him, you mean.
>>67699661
I m gonna be releasing my fan edit to o
>>67699797
>don't let him edit
More like don't make him overedit. Everything he has done that has a directors cut version has been better in the longer version.
>>67694337
Wow. Thank god that shit all jibbed together. Would have really made me sperge out in the theater if there were tiny continuity errors in these matching sequences. Furthermore, it is enough to make me completely overlook the bumbling, convoluted, poorly developed script this entire film is built around.
>>67692410
>so now he's using the track "wasn't my fault" excuse.
wew
Will he reach the Bay-level of saying the movie is trash and the next one will be better?
>pushing for several new characters with development/background in a single movie
>cut scenes
You can't be mahvel overnight DC fucking take the time.
>>67699984
>>67700012
Something like that, yeah. Hell, there is a Watchmen tier movie buried somewhere in BvS. WW and all the League bullshit ruined it. Fuck Warners.
>>67692662
I would honestly like to see him direct a dragonball Z movie. The Saiyan saga isn't particularly well written anyways and they can just stick straight to the anime and it would be pretty much perfect. I'd want another director for Dragonball though.
>>67693015
Not joking, I think Zack would make one hell of a MGS film
>>67695839
>Rumoured scenes from the BvS director's cut:
>>Extended North Africa opening segment, with Lois meeting Jimmy and being escorted to the warlord's compound by a group of operators on horseback.
Oh boy. Can;t wait for that.
>>Another nightmare sequence where Bruce Wayne finds Robin's dead body while Wayne Manor burns to the ground, with the Joker's laugh echoing in the hallways.
Do not allude to a more interesting movie in your shit movie.
>>Another scene of Diana at a charity auction.
Why.
>>Another few scenes of Bruce being depressed.
Why.
>>Clark Kent interviewing inmates at Blackgate Penitentiary about Batman.
So much why.
>>Clark and Lois pillow talk.
All the whys.
>>Superman having a nightmare about Metropolis' destruction.
Y.
>>Superman having a vision of General Zod showing up in the Arctic to torment him.
If Superman's grasp on reality really is this flimsy, he SHOULD be destroyed.
>>Extended Batmobile chase.
Unless the BM does something beside Spray & Pray and Godmode through buildings, who fucking cares.
>>Extended Batman VS. Superman including Batman's full speech.
wai?
>>Extended Trinity VS. Doomsday with more violence.
Disco golem offically most developed character in movie.
>>Extended epilogue with the funerals.
Hoo-ray
>>The Communion scene.
So they eat Superman?
>>67700147
Trying to jam three movies into one long movie and then forcing it to be cut to a more conventional length while still having three movies worth of of ideas and sub-plots in is never going to be a great idea, whether it be capeshit or oscarbait. Either drop some plots or let the longer movie flow.
>>67700147
They cut out subplots and some core plot scenes, North Africa was pretty much gutted
>>67692662
I can't think of a better depiction of the speed/power of a kryptonian vs a normal human.
