What went wrong?
QT being way way way too smug in 2015
First half was boring, and could have been cut down to 20 minutes. Cabin scenes predictable, it only got good when they had the flash back part, then it's just bloodbath tarentino at the end like usual.
>>67682143
Not much. One of his best
>>67682143
BBC
Same thing as duhjangoSally Menke died
BIG BLACK MEMBER
>>67682143
Tarantardo started narrating and destroyed immersion totally.
for the first 10 seconds I thought "who the fuck is this faggot talking?" then the penny dropped.
>>67682143
Quentin.
Tarantino doing what he wants, rather than doing what the audience wants
Django made enough money he can do 2 or 3 more films indulging in whatever shit he wants to, regardless of how well it does in the box office
Then he'll go back to pandering
Why does that carriage need so many horses?
The text between chapters thing he does is kind of silly
>>67682143
Meandering long-winded go nowhere dialogue.
BIG
BLACK
[SPOILER]DINGUS
>>67682786
so the horses dont die from exhaustion. Whats easier, pulling a cart with 2 people or with 6. common sense
>>67682143
At first when i saw the poster i thought there were bodies in the carriage, that's why it left a blood trail behind, and then when i saw the movie near the ending i thought, oh shitThey're going to take all the bodies to that town event though they're bleeding to death + jennifer jason leigh to collect the bounty! Oh my god are they going to find the 15 killers in town?And then i realized it wasn't going to happen like this and tarantula was a shit director
blah
blah
blah
blah
blah
BANG BANG BANG BANG
that1s the film
i really really liked it.
>>67683678
Either they're spraying blood or it's clearly the horses bleeding
nothing, son... it's just the... h8ers
>>67683811
I never saw that poster clearly, i thought they were dragging bodies behind the carriage, my ending would've been a better ending anyway
>>67683798
This
They didn't show her feet
I mean wtf
>>67682757
I thought it bombed in theaters
O.B. did NOTHING wrong
What's the point of doing a Western movie if not on the sand, sun and wilderness? rofl
>>67682143
The rape scene wasn't explicit enough tbqh
it's a 90 minute story stretched out to twice its length thanks to Tarantino's endlessly flowery and tedious dialogue. Like others said the carriage ride could've been cut way down. The flashback to the initial murders was completely unnecessary. In the last chapter it felt like they spent endless time discussing how much their fucking corpses were worth and trying to cut a deal.
Also for all the comparisons, Hateful Eight didn't have nearly enough tension or intrigue as The Thing. I liked all of Morricone's score but felt like it was a complete mismatch in several scenes, like the deaths of OB and John Ruth.
Finally the big mystery is boring as hell(They were ALL in on it, Warren was right about everything) The final act consists of contrived bullshit like Warren passing out only to regain consciousness and shoot Daisy just in time. Just as there's no suspense of tension in the climax, the ending has no real feeling of catharsis. How is it satisfying to see Daisy hang when she had already been slapped, punched, vomited on, her teeth knocked out, seen her brother killed in front of her, and shot multiple times? As horrible as she was (and JJL's performance was fantastic) I ended up feeling sorry for her more than anything.
There were some great performances and scenes but I was ultimately very disappointed, especially since I'ma fan of most of Tarantino's films. This whole thing felt like a rough draft that could've been made into an incredible movie with a few more rewrites.
>>67685225
About the size of it. Major letdown really.
No one single thing, there was just a fair bit of wrong with absolutely everything
Favorite part was when Tatum got BTFO
Too Long
Self indulgent with dialogue (more than usual for Tarantino flick)
Characters were not really interesting
Suffers for being in mostly a single location based on the three points above.
>>67683798
and it was great
>>67684335
Surprising, right??
>>67683678
I like the ambiguity much more.
>>67683798
pleb
>>67682643
> Tarantardo started narrating and destroyed immersion totally
Did you forget you were watching a movie? When you read a book, do you get so immersed that you forget you're reading?
You're all plebs. The movie was great
>>67688569
It's a pleb filter. People here don't like it because it was a lot of talking.
Considering Ruth anf ob die around a minute after they drink the coffee, what the fuck was the point of tarantula narrating that someone had poisoned it? Totally killed any sense of immersion.
>>67688663
I'd say it added some suspense, since they drink the coffee after we find out it's poisoned.
I wish Taranulio would've had Harvey Keitel or someone narrate it instead though.
>>67682143
literally nothing
Reservoir Dogs was better in every way.
>>67683859
>>67683811
>Taking the poster way too literally
The carriage (rather the people riding the carriage) left a trail of blood wherever they went.
They were bounty hunters and outlaws
And it was a bloody movie
That's all you needed to grasp from that poster
Also your ending is not better
>>67682143
Nothing my man
>>67682143
It felt more like someone trying to make a Tarantino movie than an actual tarantino movie
>>67688772
Fair enough, I just think that had he not explained it before hand, it would have added to the sense of mystery, since the audience would have realised themselves that someone had poisoned the coffee when Jackson was doing his thing, and that they had been distracted in the same way the characters had been. having tarantula explain it cheapens it in my eyes.
>>67682143
this scene right here
>>67688663
The previous five minutes would have been insufferably boring
Suspense is KNOWING something is about to happen, not your stupid keyser soze tyler durden nonsense
cucktin autistino hasn't made anything good since jackie brown. literally 19 fucking years ago.
he had 3 great films. the crime 'trilogy'. everything else is trash.
>Reservoir Dogs
>Running Time: 99 minutes
>Hateful Eight
>Running Time: 187 minutes
He's a fucking hack. DUDE GENRE FLICKS LMAO
I really liked Hateful 8. It's not the best movie he's ever made and it's pretty predictable. But it's just as good as Inglorious Basterds.
I don't understand why this movie gets so much hate other than the fact that Tarentino is such a big name now that lots of people go to see his movies and thus more stupid people go to see them than in the past and they they don't like them.
You have 10 minutes to quote a single memorable line from the entire film.
>>67689114
>MOVIE SUCKS, LOOK HOW LONG IT WAS
You should be a film critic.
>>67689268
what was the last 3 hour long film by a meme director where you cant remember a memorable line?
>>67689268
You're a fucking idiot.
>>67689359
>warm black dingus
>>67689359
>current season
>>67689359
AYBRAHEYM LINK ON???
>>67689261
>HOWDY NIGGER
>>67689359
AND CHESTER CHARLES SMITHERS
SUCKED
>>67689261
>>67689359
>RED RAAWRK
>>67688518
Do you not?
>>67689261
"Well, I'll be double-dog damned! We really are Quentin Tarantino's The Hateful Eight" - Sherriff Mannix
>>67689261
"Well cut my legs off and call me shorty!"
>>67688518
Yes to both, if it's a good movie or book.
Too misogynistic
>>67689959
lel
>>67682223
this. better than django at least
>>67689261
>[hammy British RP] "The nigger in the stable?!"
>>67689261
YOU TALK THAT SASS NIGGER! TALK THAT SASS!
>>67682643
It worked with an intermission
where did qt go to film school?
>>67689359
>WELL ILL BE DOUBLE DOG DAMNED!
Also, meme director? Wtf does that mean? "meme director" is the actual meme
>>67689261
>>67689359
>That nigga like to bust my jaw
>>67690272
what is this fucking 2011?
cuckintino is the definition of a meme director
>>>/leddit/
>>67689959
lol good one
I'd actually argue the opposite if this wasn't a meme post
Domergoo was completely desexualized and, as a prisoner, would have been treated the same if she was a dude. She was also the leader of a gang, a somewhat powerful position
All the other female characters, though minor, were useful or had significant influence. 6 horse sally ( or w.e) and Daisy who ran the haberdashery
>>67689261
BIG BLACK DINGUS
>>67690391
You can't speak without the use of these shit tier memes can you?
Wtf are you actually talking about?
>>67690161
Film Intercontinental Learning of Michigan State
>>67690418
JJL said in an interview that Daisy can take a punch, and if she wasn't beat like she was in the movie then it would've been misogynistic because she would get hit if she were a male.
She also said that, if you feel sorry for anyone, Chris Mannix is the "flower" of the group.
That nigger got a letter from AYBRUHAIM LANKCUN?
>>67689359
THEY'RE GONNA GO DOWN TO RED ROAACK
AND KILL EEEERY SUMBITCH IN THAT TOWN
>>67689261
THAT DOOR IS A WHORE
>>67689261
You gonna meaake a deeeeal wiiith thiis diaaaaaabooooliiicaaaalll bbieeeeeeaaach ???
>>67689359
>>67689261
>SHOOT THAT NIGGER DEAD
>>67689261
No dogs, and no Mexicans
>>67683798
Nothing like the masterpiece BvS eh?
>>67689261
I rewatched this film multiple times because I loved the dialogue so much. You're an idiot.
Though I will say that the strong point of the movie is actually the performances of the characters, and more of the nuiances in the writing that creates the characters than something as pedestrian as "memorable lines".
Why don't you go watch a top 10 mojo video on youtube...
>>67689261
Starting to see pictures, ain't ya?
>>67690466
>bitching about memes in a meme website
nice meme dialogue examples
>le funny western accents saying nigger xD
classic lines that will be up there with pulp fiction dialogue in decades to come
everything shit and hacky about this film and tarantino in general can be summed up with the fact that he hired ennio morricone to do the score
First half is GOAT. Great characters, snappy dialogue, beautiful cinematography and Morricone's score is phenomenal.
By the time the coffee gets poisoned it turns to shit. Instead of a descent into madness as eight strong personalities are stuck in a cabin together it just turns into a generic whodunnit and all previous character motivations and development is thrown out the window because "they were lying lol".
>>67691233
>unable to defend stance on QT
>resorts to endless shitposting
>>67691338
samefagging hard
I bet you started this thread didn't you?
>>67691338
Give me one memorable line from any Tarantino flick that does not include the word Nigger.
>>67691338
>being this mad about being btfo
>>67689261
Ole Mary Tod is calling
>>67691338
Funny, when people give you quotes, you dismiss them as memes.
What's being this autistic like?
>>67689261
>>67689359
I'M POSED TO APOLOGIZE FOR KILLIN JOHNNY REB?
YOU WENT TO WAR TO KEEP NIGGERS IN CHAINS, I WENT TO WAR TO KILL WHITE SOUTH'EN CRACKAS AND THAT MEANS KILLIN THEM ANY WAY I CAN
SHOOT EM, STAB EM DROWN EM, BURRRN THEM
DROP A BIG OLE ROCK ON THEY HEAD
>>67689261
>>67689359
Y-YOU HAVE. YOU HAVE TO. YOU HAVE TO KICK IT OPEN. KICK IT OPEN.
TWO NAILS. YOU HAVE TO USE TWO NAILS. TWO NAILS.
>>67689261
Sounds like you've been reading newspapers, printed in WASHINGTON DC
>>67689261
I am sorry, my friend, but Rocco Siffredi is nothing compared to the legend that is based Walton Goggins.
>ayyybraham lincoln?
>THE aybrahayum lincoln?
>the prezideynt of the yoo-nited staytes?
>of americuh?
>when niggers are in chains, white people are safe!
>YOU SHUT YOUR NIGGERLIPS UP!
>THAT nigger thay-uh!
>THE NIGGER IN THE STABLE HAS A LETTER FROM ABRAHAM LINCOLN?
>MAJOR NIGGER...
>do you know that nigger, sir?
>OR we go by MY theory which is the ugliest guy did it... that makes it YOU, Joe Gage!
>WHAT in the HALE is the Jody DOE-MING-GRAY gayng??
>ya'll havin a bounty hunter's picnic?
>oh imma go walk in the moonlight with you
>cockadoodledoo, NIGGER!
He is a fucking legend!
>>67689261
MAJOR NIGGER, GENERAL SMITHERS WISHES ME TO INFORM YOU-
>>67689261
>>67689359
yewr a real imaginative nigger. but are you prepared to murder a man based on a farfetched nigger theory
ORCANYAPROVEITCABRÒN
>>67689261
You were the one who got me talking politics!
Like i said yall im just happy to be alive.
I think Ill just scoot over here by this wind'uh, let this beautiful carriage rock me to sleep and think about how lucky I am
>>67689261
>you ok, OB?
>want some stew?
>>67682143
Saw that shit in theatres with the film reel and everything. The fucking nerds sitting around me so goddamn uncomfortable, batting their girlfriends and giggling with excitement and every stupid Sam L line.
Shitty fucking movie, no fucking point or real importance to it. I honestly thought kill bill was the last good movie of his. Everything after has been yawn.
>>67692210
Your life sounds like yawn
>>67682143
LE EPIK STAR WARS REHASH happened.
>>67682143
He doesn't need to try anymore. At this point Tarantino movie could consist of five hours of footage of him jerking off to his own reflection in the mirror and droves of drooling fanboys would call it the best piece of cinema ever simply because it was a tarantino movie.
>>67689037
>Being this much of a pleb
We get it, you like his old old movies, congrats pal.
>>67685225
I think you were always supposed to feel a tinge of sympathy for Daisy, no one is good in this movie, they're allhatefulbastards.
>>67682223
deffo this famalam
>>67682143
Tarantino' 'Westerns' are just his earlier movies, the same exposition, chronology and plotlines, with cowboy costumes. Django Unchained was basically Kill Bill, and The Hateful Eight was basically Reservoir Dogs. I guarantee his next Western will feature a hot black women, taking off of Jackie Brownwhich I'm okay with.
>>67692372
Well yeah that's why I need to fucking escape and hearing tarantino talk to himself for two and half hours ain't doing it.
But for real, I wasn't sitting there just squirming with boredom the whole time, I just can't call myself a fan of anything he's don't lately.
>>67693061
I'm hoping for a remake of Calamity Jane with JJL
>>67690161
he went to films
>>67682510
This. Each of his scenes used to build and build before they end, now they lag and sort of stumble across the finish line.
Also he makes awkward filmmaking choices without a real reason anymore. Like, this is an odd example maybe, but in the opening scene in the stagecoach there's this great long shot of Daisy's face as a song kicks in and we see exteriors for the first time, and it's like, clearly this is where the scene ends and we get to the cabin, but then it just cuts back into the stage coach and the scene just continues where it left out. QT's confusing "you need to know the rules before you can break them" with "now that you know the rules they don't apply to you anymore."
>>67682850
>look at my deep and complex movie that needs to be divided up into chapters with titles, like a book, and you know that books are of a higher and more traditional art form than film, so maybe I'm trying to imply that my film is too, because it has titled and numbered chapters
>combined with the obnoxious narration wankery
Comes off as pretty pretentious and snobby to me
>>67693730
I thought it was cool. Between chapters you'd hear everyone in the theater whispering as to what just happened.
>>67688424
fuck me dude, those arches
>>67693717
>QT's confusing "you need to know the rules before you can break them" with "now that you know the rules they don't apply to you anymore."
That's a good way of putting it. His show offy confidence used to feel a lot more bracing, but lately it's been more annoying than anything else. Django's whole "surprise there are four acts" thing didn't actually work.
Also his music picks have been getting worse, Cat People in Inglourious Basterds was his last genuinely inspired use of a song.
>>67691338
I didn't think niggers could be autistic, and then I saw your post.
>>67688663
The narration had another, more subtle purpose- it highlighted how Joe Gage was able to poison the coffee specifically because Warren made a huge scene to kill Smithers, so that everyone was distracted by his story for long enough. And the reason he made the BBD story up to kill the racist general was because he was throwing a bitch fit over Mannix calling bullshit on his Lincoln letter. This may be me grasping for straws to explain why I loved a movie that may be pleb shit, but in the context of how both racial tension and deception play as themes in the movie, the narration serves to bring attention to Warren's responsability in the massacre- They all died because he wanted to kill a racist, they all died because he kept lying.
I may be full of bullshit, but I liked it.
>>67689261
We shared a battlefield together, or are you gonna deny me of that too?
>>67682143
It's written for theater. Hard to make it engaging cinema. Almost succeeded though.
>>67696196
Well said, never thought of that aspect of it
Also anyone else think the coffee was also poisoned when John Ruth poured it out?
Not sure. I really liked it. Jackson deserved an Oscar for his performance. He was amazing. The guy playing the young Confederate also deserved a best supporting actor nomination. I think the amazing acting was lost in the Tarantino-ness of the movie.
>>67690805
She started letting in dogs>>67690805
>>67690805
>>67682143
>THE 8TH FILM FROM QUENTIN TARANTINO
>film from Quentin Tarantino
There's your answer
>>67697686
Sam J. always steals the show in Tarantino's movies, if it's one thing Tarantino does right, it's getting a good performance out of actors.
Hateful 8 is the best thing Quentin has done since Jacky Brown. An authentic B-movie instead of nostalgia themed contemporary action film. Also, though the racial subtext was far from subtle, it was executed in a more interesting way than his other stuff.
Plebs hate it because they're
A) Conditioned to hate Quantin since /tv/ is filled with plebian wannabe contrarians
B)unable to watch extended dialog scenes
>>67698337
I can agree with this
>>67698337
You nailed it 100%. I was very impressed with H8tful, especially after he had just made Django.
Now that's a smile I want to protect.
>>67682143
The dick sucking scene. Any has the gif it gives me a boner
>>67698337
The subtext was executed in a more interesting way in Inglourious Basterds though, what with the way it plays with how we use cinema to understand history
>this is the face of jewish vengeance
>cinema itself is jewish vengeance
Goggins saved this movie, without him it would have been a burning dumpster fire. He deserved an award for his acting.
>>67699603
Thanks for the pic.
>>67683798
Spoiler that shit man
>>67691796
best character in the movie by far, followed by John Ruth, Daisy too.
>>67682143
BBC cuckold fetish
>>67689261
>Shiiiiiet, it can go down right here. Better bahlieve dat!
>>67700388
>ignoring Daisy
>>67682143
They shot it in 70mm, but 90% of the movie takes place in one room.
>>67690391
>speaks entirely in memes
>says other person should be on reddit
>/tv/ in 2016
>>67701508
Tarantino has talked at length about how he believes 70mm can have more creative applications beyond shooting wide, sweeping landscapes and large-scale action.
>>67682143
It wasn't Jackie Brown.
>>67691796
Holy fucking shit I kekd so hard at this. Walton definitely best character in the whole movie although that last line is from django
BIG
BLACKYa Dingus
>>67682143
>TFW he will never make a film as good as Jackie Brown.
>>67688663
>>67696196
But the narration wasn't necessary because we are actually shown someone poisoning the coffee.
The other problem isn't just "there was narration" but the fact it was QTs awful voice and what he choose to say. Had the narration been smarter and in another, smoother western fit-for-radio, voice, it could have worked.
>>67697536
no it was just from that morning before they killed everyone and they forgot to brew more. the Brit cleverly blames it on the mexican and agrees that it was bad coffee they were just too nice to say anything when in reality it had been sitting there all day.
>>67682143
Nothing, it was a rather good film.
>>67689261
Warm black lincoln log
>>67682223
this
>>67682757
And it still made decent box office. The man can literally do no wrong.
>>67689261
keeping you at a disadvantage is an advantage i intend to keep!
the mystery aspect of "who in this cabin is working with DALMERGUKE" fell apart pretty quickly. The setup for the tension was great, establishing that everyone in the cabin hated eachothers guts. Then they killed the general, the coffee was poisoned, all good stuff. And then because so much time was spent on the buildup Quentin blew his load and had the killer be "everyone else in the cabin plus some guy under the floorboards" and have them all die/ be incapacitated within a few minutes. Would have been better if the interrogation scene where they were lined up against the wall were done different, they could have cut out a few unnecessary scenes through the movie and instead devote more time to building tension in the cabin over who the conspirator was
>>67689261
AYYBRAHAM LINCUN?
>>67702708
But the point of H8ful 8 was to make fun of that mystery aspect in the first place.
>>67702810
I like how it kind of just changes everything after Warren is shot in the nuts. Like "alright, fuck this interrogation, let's get on with it".
>>67682850
>hateful 8
>came out on the 8th
>8th movie
>theater 8
>6 chapters
>>67689261
>well you best shit out another pistol
.
.
.
>throws up another pistol
Jackie Brown was a box office flop
The first 15 minutes are cinematic brilliance, then he turned it into a boring talkie
the first 5 minutes of the second half after intermission is also cinematic brilliance.
It's just the other 2 HOURS AND 40 MINUTES IS FUCKING BORING AND GOES NO WHERE
dont you dare say thats the point. It was flat, dead and had no drive.
He has talent, those two sections in the film prove it, he's just chasing money and shit now. Fuck qt post jackie brown. He hasn't been relevant for a long while.
>>67704385
>20 minutes out of 180 were good
>Jackie Brown is the best Tarantino's film man, he had such talent back then
>>67704385
>white man made to suck off a nigger
>brilliant
Cucks, everybody.
>>67682143
Poster looks like a red lightsaber if you look at it in thumbnail size.
>>67682143
Why would I watch a movie made by a guy that loves licking woman's feet?
>>67689261
YOU BELIEVE IN JESUS NOW, DO YOU BITCH? WELL GUESS WHAT, YOU'RE ABOUT TO MEET HIM
>>67693730
>providing clear structure to your film is pretentious
I'll agree with you on the narration though
i think that tarantino wanted to do an experiment with this movie, and sometimes the experiments go wrong
