Which one of these is the best setting?
>>67659359
My penis tbqh
>>67659359
Cyberpunk or Dieselpunk
>>67659359
im partial to dieselpunk and raypunk (could have sworn this was called retro sci-fi)
>>67659359
Raypunk has Flash in it.
>>67659359
Dieselpunk is best if done right
>>67659359
What are some popular dieselpunk? Can't think of any off the top of my head; unless you count Snowpiercer and Tetsuo
>>67659359
Cyberpunk
>>67659359
Cyberpunk because it's the only one with merit. The other three are just aesthetics.
>>67659359
They all have their place but the best EXECUTION of any of these is Cyberpunk.
Nothing has beaten BladeRunner.
If you disagreeyou're wrong
>>67659359
I really like cyberpunk
but it's been too long since good Raypunk happened
>>67659563
Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow is the first that comes to mind
![ak2[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/EmjiGAM.jpg "ak2[1].jpg")
>>67659359
>>67659534
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>>67659359
>Raypunk
You realize that "punk" implies a specific anti-establishment tone right? I don't think Buck Rodgers fighting off aliens fits the mold.
>>67659563
mad max
>>67659359
Dark sun
Steampunk is not even like the others. The other three are a type of speculative science fiction set in the future. Steampunk more an "alternate past" fantasy situation.
what kind of aesthetic would all of Blomkamp's shit fall under?
They all have a similar feel
>>67659710
Modern Cyberpunk
Neoreactionary post-Cyberpunk.
>>67659710
neo-futurism
>>67659589
In film or in general?
>>67659708
Neither diselpunk nor raypunk necessarily falls into that category. It could be alternative 30s or 50s just as easily as being set in a future.
New Wave science fiction is best science fiction.
What came after is too genre driven and unimaginative.
I'm not saying Cyberpunk and related offspring was a mistake, but to many artist and authors limit themselves by blindly adhering to their tropes rather than trying to expand or elevate them. And most New Wave science fiction ages better, most of it still reads like plausible alternate reality/future scenarios while much of Cyberpunk reads like its really just happening in the 80s or early 90s.
>>67659644
I was going to say "THIS, SO MUCH THIS", but then I realised steampunk is a solid term and also has no compromise with an anti-establishment tone...
>>67659359
Which one is Mad Max? Is it Dieselpunk? Because I feel like this might be my favorite especially the art deco type. I think only Sky Captain is the pure example of that especially sinces part of it takes place in NYC.
>>67659492
And I thought it was called "atompunk'
>>67660183
punk in cyber has the anti connotations, but in the rest is just a sufix like "core", as in "alternative world".
Move aside peasants, patrician taste coming through. I only watch PunkPunk movies.
Fuck all the other genres.
>>67660233
It is Diselpunk.
Almost every thing to do with Mad Max-esque apocalypses are diselpunk, some are exceptions adding other genres in.Like in video games, Fallout is this plus Ray punk
What's the fourth picture from?
I want to broaden my horizons tonight, experience something new
>>67660612
>one working car in the entire franchise
>everything is fusion powered
>diesel-punk
Not even a little.
>>67659589
Name one cyberpunk movie you've seen other than Blade Runner? I really don't even 100% think that Blade Runner should be considered cyberpunk, it's too straight forward. Cyberpunk isn't just science-fiction with a bit of grit to it, to be truly punk you have to throw a giant middle finger in the face of everything.
Blade Runner's slow pace and ambiguous plot elements are a bit of a deviation from the norm, but it's still more or less straight forward as far as psychological thrillers go. Really, Blade Runner has more in common with American Gigolo than Neuromancer.
AlsoAmerican Gigolo is way better than Blade Runner.
Whalepunk of course.
>>67660726
That's what I mean with a mixture of such things. You cannot tell me that the Brotherhood of Steel power armour would look out of place if it placed somewhere in a Mad Max movie, just replacing fusion cells with guzzoline.
>>67660743
>Name one cyberpunk movie you've seen other than Blade Runner?
Not that anon but lawnmower man, hackers, and johnny mnemonic
Will we ever get any good alternate WWII movies?
Games have managed to do it really well.
>>67660767
Mad Max is literally one of the inspirations for it. You could get dogmeat for free just by wearing leather armor, carrying a sawn off shotgun, and petting him.
You're ascribing all these extra modifiers to what is just post-post apocalypse.
>>67660743
would Minority Report be considered cyberpunk?
>>67659359
Cyberpunk
>Progress in technology points us to a Cyberpunk esque future
>Every other aesthetic is just aesthetic and serves no purpose
>Aesthetics of Cyberpunk can be really diverse if done right
>>67660830
>Will we ever get any good alternate WWII movies?Inglorious Basterds
>>67659359
Cyberpunk > Dieselpunk > Raypunk > "Steampunk"Space Western/Opera is the best genre overall tho.
>>67659359
>Cyberpunk
Blade Runner
>High Dieselpunk
Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow
>Low Dieselpunk
Mad Max
>Steampunk
Wild Wild West (?) I don't know that's all I've got
>Raypunk
Forbidden Planet? Although I don't know if it counts if it was made in the 50s.
>>67660873
I think Minority Report is considered 15 minutes into the future
>>67660784
>>67660873
Kind of on the right track there. Johnny Mnemonic had the potential to be great but was managed by people with no balls or vision. And I love Minority Report but I don't consider it cyberpunk at all. It's a very straightforward thriller that was executed incredibly well and has some cool sci-fi gimmicks.
Haven't seen the other two but Lawnmower Man sounds like it might be solid and Hackers sounds completely off.
If you want real cyberpunk I think you have to go Japanese. 964 Pinocchio, Death Powder and Burst City are where it's at.
>>67660482
Any suggestions? I really liked Class of 1984 and I feel like that's what you're going for.
>>67660893
literally me. Good job.
>>67660830
There's a show loosely based on Philip K. Dick's novel "The Man in the High Castle" that just got renewed for a second season.
>>67660954
>Johnny Mnemonic had the potential to be great
Potential? It had a motherfucking talking dolphin, son. That automatically elevates it to patrician status.
Whalepunk
>>67661027
>>67660830
Incidentally, "What if Hitler won" is the most common form of alternate history fiction. I suspect "What if no Dark Ages" is second but no one has reported on it so who knows
>>67661093
Any good Whalepunk kinos? I liked Dishonored
Don't give me free willy crap there needs to be a punk aspect
>>67661103
True, but Philip K. Dick was one of the first to do it, at least in a way that was treated seriously.
>>67660954
>Hackers sounds completely off.
Its not even a little bit off. Counterculture kids use skills and technology for fun and profit. Even the hacking scenes are literally "net diving." It takes place 5 minutes in the future (when it was made) and is a perfect example of some low-cyber punk.
Lawnmower man is great, based on a stephen king story. Its flowers for algernon meets silence of the lambs in cyberspace. Classic 90's core.
>>67659359
cyberpunk by a mile
>>67661187
I don't mean to go all /lit/ on you but if you want to know whether or not your statement is true, you should read The World Hitler Never Made by Garfield D. Rosenfeld, which is a compilation of many alternate histories about Hitler, and an analysis of the narratives and their contemporary schools of thought/cultural context.
>>67661126
Just read moby dick.
>>67660743
Matrix, ghost in the shell
I want to defend Steampunk a bit, the part that isn't simply "googles and gears on hats and airships"-punk.
The Difference Engine, the book on witch the term was originally invented to describe, is a fine book. So are the first two volumes of Alan Moore's The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen and the videogame Arcanum, just to name a few known examples.
Steampunk works well when it builds upon actual steam era history and/or fiction rather than just relying on surface aesthetic in order to serve as spice in your typical fantasy tale, and I feel like many here are being unfair when they judge it solely based on the often cancerous fashion subculture, when Cyberpunk fashion tends to be just as retarded.
>>67661475
Matrix is Chinese Style with a plot that's Phillip K. Dick meets anime. It doesn't feel very punk. Ghost in the Shell is cool but Mamoru Oshii's live action stuff suits the aesthetic better.
>>67661720
what about bioshock?
>>67661994
dieselpunk and biopunk
>>67661994
Rand Punk
>>67661994
Biopunk/Decopunk
nice thread but you guys are missing alot both in examples and maybe being a bit rigid in categorizations
where the fuck is biopunk tho
>>67660989
SLC Punk
>Cyberpunk derivatives
>Biopunk
>Nanopunk
>Postcyberpunk
>Steampunk
>Dieselpunk
>Stonepunk
>Clockpunk
>Nowpunk
>Elfpunk
>Mythpunk
>Dreampunk
>Decopunk
>Atompunk
>Cyberprep
>Solarpunk
>Woodpunk
>Whalepunk
Anything else?
>>67662149
>Biopunk (a portmanteau of "biotechnology" and "punk") is a subgenre of science fiction that focuses on biotechnology. It is derived from cyberpunk, but focuses on the implications of biotechnology rather than information technology.
Pic related, Biopunk.
>>67662193
I don't know what the fuck the niggers ITT are smoking, cyberpunk is the punk aesthetic applied to science-fiction. There's nothing punk about your picture or most of the examples posted ITT.
>>67662251
>gattaca
>punk
It's about as punk of Forest Gump.
>>67660893
why is it "steampunk" but not "cyberpunk"? steampunks been a legit genre for decades nerd
>>67659359
>mfw there should be a -punk derivative based on the aesthetics of vaporwave.
Vaporpunk when?
>>67659359
Truly patrician steampunk beats everything
Pic related
But that kind of good steampunk is hard to come by, so otherwise it's
Cyberpunk>Dieselpunk>>>Raypunk>>>>getting hit by a car>>>>most Steampunk
>>67659708
Except diesel.
Cyber>Steam>Diesel>Ray
objectively correct
>>67662553
Finally a nigger with some class in here.
>>67662551
Thief is dank as fuck but it's not vaporwave.
>>67662469
Future-Funk > Vaporwave
https://youtu.be/oo-4Wjrf0TM
How can traps and their Diana Ross remixes even compete?
>>67662551
>Released on 1981
Both the -punks and vaporwave are both retro-futuristic. It doesn't count as retro-futuristic if it was made during the period it's supposed to be "retroing". You know?
>>67662671
Future funk is a subgenre of vaporwave.
>>67659563
Hardware is about as good as you'll get
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMaVIAlJlnw
do these exist
>paleopunk
dinosaurs, prehistoric animals, neanderthals, stone weapons
>aquapunk
water, pirates, boats, sea monsters, dolphins
>musketpunk
1700s shit
>>67662864
>>paleopunk
>dinosaurs, prehistoric animals, neanderthals, stone weapons
Cadillacs and Dinosaurs. Talk about something that's just perfect for a big dumb summer action movie.
Also Turok: Dinosaur Hunter would definitely count.
>>67662315
>Judging my picture and the genre posted on some vague aesthetic or surface narrative tropes without taking author intent into consideration
>Not grasping the anti establishment critiques of Gattaca
You punk.
>>67662988
Anti-eugenics isn't anti-establishment because eugenics isn't the establishment. They made up an establishment to oppose, that isn't punk.
>>67659359
this has to be the single gayest thread in /tv/ history
even a Pest thread would be better than this
pic related
it's all of you
>>67659359
Cowboy Bebop
Aka 90sPunk
Basically the future where everything is the 90s.
>>67663040
>They made up an establishment to oppose, that isn't punk.
Except, you know, in all of cyberpunk and its subgenres.
>>67659359
70spunk. Like in Alien and Alien:Isolation
A little bit more advanced than 50s raypunk, but not as advanced as 80s retropunk.
>>67663101
Oh I'm sorry would you rather we have another capeshit thread
Or perhaps discuss kino such as The Cuckold
God forbid we actually consider the differences between certain genres and discuss the strengths and weaknesses of each
I know this is bait but I'm taking it
>>67659359
Retropunk.
Aka the 80s.
Chiptunes, Pixels, Pop rock, 8bit games, power ups
Pic related is a great example.
>>67663262
I always called that more 80's revivalism than any form of "punk".
>>67663153
>90spunk
Thanks for inveting the word I needed. I'm convinced that will become a genre in a couple decades.
>>67663294
The 80s is the current in-thing, but the 90s will soon follow.
Cowboy Bebop, to me, is the definitive 90s punk because it pretty much imagines a future where everything remains in a 90s-ish sort of way.
>>67662864
We should start writing Kinopunk: Alternate history or reality based in or based on real cinematic history and the seedy shit that happens between the scenes.
>>67663293
"Punk" usually has connotations of anarchy and rebellion.
Turbokid, while a hero, is also rebelling against an authority figure. Hence the "punk" definition.
Kung Fury is also another example of 80spunk
>>67663347
I think Hail Caesar actually fits that bill.
>>67663347
That wouldn't be futurism though
>>67659359
Cyberpunk - Futurism
Dieselpunk - Post apoc futurism
Steampunk - 19th century futurism
Raypunk - 50s & 60s futurism
The key word is futurism. Its a vision of what the future would be like. Each decade has its own imagining of what the future would be like.
>>67662864
>aquapunk
Waterworld comes to mind. I think that movie has an asthetic that could be described as aquapunk.
>>67663360
>We need to hack time itself
>>67662326
Steampunk's rep has been trashed by neckbeard fags who like to dress up, so there is quite a bit of backlash to it these days.
>>67663360
Yeah, I suppose that's fair. Still, you can't deny that the current 80's revivalism trend is a huge influence on this genre.
>>67663394
To be fair, some of those costumes are damn impressive.
Pic related, this nigga had fuckin' spring stilts down at Gen Con. Shit was neat.
>>67659710
Memepunk
>>67660930
>Steampunk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vORsKyopHyM
Pretty much a perfect example of the themes and characters that steampunk is (supposed to be) about.
>>67663395
Well of course.
Raypunk is a 50s & 60s revivalism. The 50s and 60s vision of the future is very iconic: its why, when people talk about retrofuturism, they usually mean raypunk, aka 50s retrofuturism.
But this thread does show that there is more than one form of retrofuturism - each decade, with its own advances in technology, and cultural norms, will have a different vision of the future.
>>67663386
>That wouldn't be futurism though
It could if it also focuses on real and made up inventions in the film making business and how that effects and shapes the world. And besides, nothing remarkably futuristic or retro futuristic about Elfpunk, Mythpunk, Dreampunk or Nowpunk, to name a few sub genres that are out there.
>>67663195
cyberpunk usually opposes stuff that exists now (dehumanization/industrialization/corporatism), or is so experimental in nature as to be opposing the film establishment.
You could say that Gattaca contains these themes, but I think that the execution is too straight to count. At its heart the movie isn't about 'FUCK THE MAN' or 'FUCK' anything really, it's a movie about a guy who believes in himself and chases his dream.
I think that you're all too generous, and that for something to be truly punk it should be considered unwatchable by a majority of viewers. Punk without offense isn't punk at all.
A great example of Dieselpunk is Hardware.
>>67660930
I'd argue that Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrowis more steampunk. Or a higher steampunk: consider that the 1900s to 1940s, aka the pre-Atomic age, was the product of the Victorian era, hence, Sky Captain is a lot closer to steampunk.
The best example of Steampunk I've seen is pic related.
>>67662315
>I don't know what the fuck the niggers ITT are smoking, cyberpunk is the punk aesthetic applied to science-fiction.
That's the supposed reason, sure. In reality, virtually none of the major works attributed to cyberpunk have the punk aesthetic.
>>67663538
I love Hardware but why the fuck is everyone calling it dieselpunk all of a sudden? Why doesn't cyberpunk suit it? MARC13 doesn't run on diesel.
>>67663579
That's why I think that most major works attributed to cyberpunk were attributed by fucking plebs who have no idea what they're talking about. Nobody even knows what it means anymore, look at this thread, we're getting everything from Gattaca, to Arcanum to Turbo Kid being labelled 'punk'. How did this happen?
>>67663482
>why, when people talk about retrofuturism, they usually mean raypunk, aka 50s retrofuturism.
That was one of the things I absolutely fucking LOVED about Tomorrowland. From the few glances of Tomorrowland that we actually got it was fucking incredible. 50's retrofuturism blended with modern graphics and technology, holy shit it actually made me buy into the idea of a future world where anything was possible.
Of course then Damon Lindelof came in and violently assraped the script so now we'll never get that vision onscreen again.
And I agree with the whole different visions of the future. Best way to go in my opinion would be that Vaporpunk idea seen here: >>67662469
>>67663153
The 5th Element also fits this one to a T
Demolition Man as well
>>67659359
Gothpunk > Cyberpunk >>> everythingelsepunk >>>>>> shit >>>>>>>>> Steampunk >>>>>>>>>>>> actual punk
>>67663579
>>67663635
Punk just needs to mean the offensive. The rebellious. Against the norm. It doesn't necessarily HAVE to be the stereotypical punk aesthetic applied to a particular context.
If you want to be autistic though, just call it futurism. Because thats a safe term - futurism is a vision of what a future would be like.
A better alternative for using the term ____punk would be retro-futurism.
Hey guys. Steampunk here.
>>67659359
>steampunk
>no steam
>>67663745
Not all futurism is "retro". Its only retro once the particular period is passed.
For instance, any futurism story told now is still contemporary. It will become retrofuturistic at least in the next decade.
>>67663707
>If you want to be autistic though, just call it futurism.
No, Futurism is a VERY specific school of art and its basic characteristics are disdain for nature and praising industrial creations and fast-paced life.
Futurism isn't just "a vision of what a future would be like".
>>67663745
Can we get a separate thread up for the ideals of retro/futurism?
Slavpunk here.
All your other futurisms are small time.
>>67659359
Never even heard of Dieselpunk or Raypunk. Steampunk is nothing but a cheap ass moneygrab setting for Kickstarter projects. So Cyberpunk.
>>67663517
>cyberpunk usually opposes stuff that exists now
Rather, it generally addresses (not always) what were concerns in the 80s, some that apply now, but many that don't.
And to limit the genre to 'FUCK THE MAN' or 'FUCK' anything really, is a bit insulting to some of its greatest work. At their core, they're usually noirish tales that are less about "fuck authority" and more about survival in a crapshoot world. They were just named punk really because the name was coined in the early 80s, and they were something new and fresh, like punk at the time, or at least in the mainstream.
Also, Biopunk tends to play by other rules than Cyberpunk, there's a reason tit became a sub genre in and on itself beyond being just "cyberpunk with bionics in it". It generally focuses on a society that has been drastically altered by a biotech revolution of some sort, which fits Gattaca. What also fits Gattaca is that a second class, down on his luck citizen gets to risk a better life because a down on his luck first class citizen decides to go all "fuck you" to the establishment.
>>67663813
Jesus, stop being so autistic
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/futurism
Yes, that definition counts, but check definition
2:
"The study and prediction of possible futures."
The future could very well end up being like the 50s. Aor we can all end up using coal powered steam engines again.
No one knows what the future is like. So all speculative fiction about the future is futurism.
>>67663750
Run of the mill advanced early 20th century technology, not really steampunk.It was a good movie, though
>>67663635
>How did this happen?
It happened because the cyberpunk was never used properly in the first place and became a blanket label for absolutely anything set in the neo-times-square aesthetic. Cyberpunk is just a label an aesthetic, no matter what elitists want to believe, ergo it's fitting that the tech aesthetic genres that came after used the same naming convention.
Blade runner is not cyber punk, it's neo-noir.
GiTs is not cyber punk, the main characters are cops.
Neromancer is barely cyberpunk unless you consider "character is a loser who doesn't like corporations" to be "punk". In which case there are a lot of fucking punks running around in the media.
>>67663848
Stalker is just post-apocalypse except in Slavland
>>67660750
I don't remember ever actually running into a whale in dishonored
>>67663707
>Punk just needs to mean the offensive. The rebellious.
That's my point, virtually no significant "cyberpunk" works have punk themes, let alone punk visual or cinematic conventions. Cyberpunk is every bit an aesthetic as any of the other steam punks are, people who say otherwise are in denial.
>>67663848
are you ready for escape from tarkov бpaтaн
>>67664058
Ghost in the shell had a lot of themes that were about rebellion. Blade Runner too.
Its why Blade Runner is seen as a good example of Cyberpunk
>>67663998
>Cyberpunk: Information technology and cybernetics, juxtaposed with a degree of breakdown or radical change in the social order.
This is the only definition of cyberpunk.
"loser who doesn't like corporations" perfectly fits the bill. Same with SnowCrash: Pizza delivery man with an interest in hacking discovers government conspiracies.
>>67663451
>image.jpg
hi phoneposter
also I want /v/ to leave
What are some actual examples of Raypunk? I feel like I have a good idea of the others but that one is pretty weird
>>67664030
But thats whats unique about it.
If Mad Max and most post apoc movies take place in a desert/barren wasteland, Stalker uses not just a slavland, but a pristine wasteland. Albeit one with a lot of radiation, but there's still greenery and a lot of Life.
A more definite Slavland post-apocalypse would be Metro 2033. But Stalker is really unique due to its setting in Chernobyl.
>>67664058
To make a big deal of this now, to demand that the term (and its various sub-genres that range from understandable to another genre with a different title, to pants-on-head retarded) should be applied rigidly and within the framework of strict genre rules is pretty inane at this point.
It was never a clearly defined moniker, and never will be.
Yet it's easy to tell Neromancer from Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep, The Diamond Age from Against the Day and so forth.
>>67663928
Technically, Sherlock Holmes takes place in the 1890s, and most definitely before the 1900s. SO its closer to steampunk because its not yet the 20th century. Also, it depicts the development of 20th century technology, but with limited 19th century mechanisms
In a way, run of the mill advanced 20th century technology is steampunk: the Difference Engine, which pioneered the genre:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Difference_Engine
Was about Babbage actually inventing the modern computer through his antiquated difference engine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Difference_engine
>>67664224
Tomorrowland, as I mentioned earlier, is a good example of modern raypunk.
It's more about sort of ray guns and flying apparatuses and shit.
Sky Captain and the World Of Tomorrow, maybe?
>>67659359
who the fuck made up those names?
also, is there any movies with those styles?
besides blade runner and some few more like johnny mnemonic, for cyberpunk... and that will smith movie for steampunk.. i can't think of anything
>>67659563
In terms of aesthetics fallout 1 & 2. Although the levels of tech in that game are intentionally all over the map.
>>67659359
Dieselpunk > Cyberpunk > shit > Steampunk/Raypunk
Are there any good dieselpunk movies besides Mad Max?
>>67664355
Check out 9, the movie about the sackdolls gaining sentience that Tim Burton made. I always thought that utilized steampunk/dieselpunk well.
>>67659708
nope. Steampunk is literally "what if we kept running machines on steam?" future, or at least present.
How else do you explain that in this "past" they have flying ships and all sorts of retro looking futuristic tech?
>>67664355
Cyberpunk and Steampunk are real terms, the other two are made up. The other two are just Post-Apocalyptic and Retro-SciFi.
>>67659710
Boerpunk
>>67659563
The Mad Max series is diesel as fuck. Snowpiercer counts too.
>>67664416
I hated that movie. A student film project that got much more attention than it deserved when someone at Tim Burton's production house noticed it and wired a few shekels their way in exchange for distribution rights.
Also, it has little to nothing to do with steampunk or diselpunk, at least in any meaningful manner.
>>67663928
I'd also add that Sherlock Holmes is steampunk, especially in the punk aspect because:
(a) Sherlock holmes is a a punk in this version, i.e., a rebellious character
(b) the depiction of Holmes as a sloven eccentric, with streetfighting cred, goes agaisnt the grain of typical depictions of the detective as a calm composed man
In this regard, its punk. And sicne tis pre 1900s but uses what would be seen as futuristic technolgoy for the era, its low steampunk.
>>67664185
>Its why Blade Runner is seen as a good example of Cyberpunk
It's seen as a good example of cyberpunk because everything else related to cyberpunk was derivative trash at the time. Neither gits nor blade runner have any punk themes elements at all. Bladerunner in particular is clearly a neo-noir film, especially the characters and their motivations.
>>67664191
>This is the only definition of cyberpunk.
That is a revisionist definition of cyberpunk designed to retroactively create a rational for why literally anything with a certain look or setting can be called cyberpunk.
>>67664266
>To make a big deal of this now, to demand that the term (and its various sub-genres that range from understandable to another genre with a different title, to pants-on-head retarded) should be applied rigidly and within the framework of strict genre rules is pretty inane at this point.
It was never a clearly defined moniker, and never will be.
This is only an issue because of the recent backlash by autists trying to justify their knee jerk backlash against the -punk suffix by saying that cyberpunk has like consistent themes and shit man, but other sub-genres are just an aesthetic. Surprise, surprise that belief doesn't stand up to even casual examination.
>>67659710
Modernpunk
It takes the aesthetics of modern day technologies and fashion and applies them to another setting, such as the far future or past.
Tacticool brigand? Modernpunk
ATLAS-styled electronics? Modernpunk
Pirate with a magazine harness and ghilliesuit? Modernpunk
>>67659359
I like it when it's like cyberpunk but no dystopian. Real clean too. Futurism I guess
>>67664664
A better term would be contemporary retrofuturism.
Next decade, it will be called 2010spunk
steampunk>cyberpunk>dieselpunk>raypunk
I've never even heard of raypunk before, but It seems pretty neat. It also seems like the kind of thing that died in the 50s
>>67661994
Rehashpunk
whatever pre-war fallout would be. retro-futurism. Since we're doing punk shit, maybe it would something like nuclearpunk or atompunk
>>67664046
dlc
I want cyberpunk to be the new cape shit just need more cyberpunk in my life desu
>>67665519
Any of these would be cool tbhq I just want more movies with great world-building
>>67659359
That's all crap.
>>67665519
my. fucking. nigga.
>>67665554
>>67666135
hopefully ghost in the shell spawns it
>>67662193
So what kind of punk is Wh40k?
Grimdarkpunk?
>>67664030
Post-apocalypse in not mandatory in Slavpunk.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brother_%281997_film%29
>>67666531
It's practically its own thing with how ridiculous and cosmic it is, so definitely Grimdarkpunk.
>>67663386
Cyberpunk isn't retro-futuristic so the other three are much more closely associated with each other. In its simplified form cyberpunk became known as "bad noir future with neons." Basically something that won't happen because "our" future will be boring, sterile, white and functional and full of floating touch screens.
prison punk
So what is Trigun?
>>67667257
>our future will be boring, sterile, white, & funtional
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>>67667495
>>67667495
space western
And Metropolis is also an example of... something.
Dieselpunk is the only thing I ever want.
Put it inside me. Or the other way around. I won't want to leave.
Which setting is best for porn?
they all have a interesting and different feel, all of them would be a good setting if done right no pretentious bull shit and retarded ass twists just to be "deep"
>>67668628
gotta give it to cyberpunk, got lots of potential
>VR stuff
>sexbots
>VR sexbots
>body modification/augments
>>67668628
cuckpunk
>>67668594
move to beijing
>>67659359
Cyberpunk and dieselpunk.
>>67664792
I don't think anything should be called 2010 spunk.
>>67659359
cyberpunk>atompunk>decopunk>cattlepunk>biopunk>dieselpunk>dungeonpunk>nanopunk>dreampunk>teslapunk>clockpunk>elfpunk>mythpunk>solarpunk>stonepunk>desertpunk>steampunk
>>67659359
cyberpunk is really comfy for me idk why but it is.
>>67669035
You'll see in.
In 2030, people will reminisce about a time when the future was all about #hashtags and apps.
>>67662864
Nigga, I've been to an aquapark last week, so sure as hell they fucking exist.
>>67659359
Decopunk
I always thought "Diesel Punk" was something more akin to, say, "Atom Punk" but being placed in the never-ending interwar period rather than post-apo crap.
>>67669220
that's not what punk is retard
>>67659492
>>67660278
I've never heard about the term raypunk before today so I'm just going to assume some fuckers on facebook made it up. It was always known as retro-sci-fi
>>67669592
that's pretty much what dieselpunk is, the op is wrong on all the definitions and broke down the genres to below the basic components
dieselpunk represents a vision of the future from the era when diesel-based locomotion was the main technological focus in western culture
>>67659563
The only one that id say counts is that one segment in sucker punch.
Dieselpunk is more of an RPG/strategy board game thing.
>>67669646
raypunk is a non existent term made up by someone who has no idea what the punk genres actually are
the proper name for "raypunk" is decopunk
>>67659563
city of lost children
Cyberpunk > Dieselpunk > Raypunk > Steampunk
Cyberpunk is the easy answer but there are so many good cyberpunk stories.
>>67662469
>make an ambient album
>call it vaporwave
Not bad but still.
Blank Banshee is where it's at.
Is there such a thing as Realpunk?
>>67662193
>sub sub genres
>>67670682
there's nowpunk which is basically just "contemporary fiction based during the time it was written"
>>67670804
derivative=!sub sub genre
>>67669744
Cheers.
raypunk sounds kinda gay
>>67663560
It also has the best audio of any game ever. Voiceovers seem so sincere and well done. Music is superb, epecially the world map and Tarant, which is the most comfy town of all. If it only had more polish and balance it would have been the greatest game of all time. Late game feels rushed but holy fuck that quest where you investigate the dead babies' skulls, missing women and all that stuff.fucking gnomes, I never liked them
>>67668628
>>67668742
>he hasn't fetish for Victorian lingerie
>>67669744
this. However dieselpunk is comfy tech level, postapo society might not be able to make computers work but would not fall back to steam powered machines.
>>67671568
that's as vanilla as you can get
all these genres are just annoying
cyberpunk is its own thing
all the rest are just flavours of retro-futurism.
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Daily reminder that Cyberpunk is such a good aesthetic that people went and said:
"mm yes, I too want to live in a futuristic dystopia where I can't tell who is machine or human!, where mega-corporations rule the planet, an where the internet has become a second reality in our lives, lets make that shit happen!"
And we did the absolute madmen.
>>67669858
But deco is 20s-40s while the op pic seems to imply 50s.
>>67671843
Art deco is I guess mostly associated with dieselpunk (even though most cars weren't diesels back then) as well as pulp magazines and adventurers-pilots.
So something like The Rocketeer.
>>67660743
Is Alien considered as Cyberpunk?
>>67671939
It's sci fi. There's nothing about society there.
>>67664224
Basically the future as people from the 1950s saw it
>>67671987
Which is really fascinating. The whole subculture about atom. They even had something like this.
http://gajitz.com/1950s-radioactive-science-kit-most-dangerous-toy-ever/
>>67659359
cyberpunk/diesel > raypunk > steampunk
>>67671974
It actually does when you consider how old and run down Nostromo looked. This pretty much gives you impression that the corporation that owns that ship seems to cut corners in order to gain more profit. Not to mention they put an android in that ship to monitor the crew, as well as treating the crew as expendable work force. When they made contact with an UFO.
>>67671843
decopunk is centered around art deco and streamline moderne art styles around the period between the 20s-50s
>>67659359
ELDER GOD TIER
Cyberpunk
ACCEPTABLE TIER
Steampunk
TRYING TOO HARD TIER
Dieselpunk
FULL RETARD TIER
Raypunk
If you disagree, you need to GET OUT.
%rundom-word%punk_
