After a nearly decade of Disney Marvel films, give me one good reason to believe Civil War will be anything but another blandly shot, zero stakes CGI quipfest.
Stay the fuck off /tv/ you uncultured videogame playing /co/ reject
>>67645744
>one does not exist.
>>67645773
I'm sorry, I did not mean to offend you're high art Mouseketeer sensibilities.
>>67645744
I for one can't wait for another serving of Marvel's signature slop.
The "Tone" argument is fucking stupid.Tone isnt as important as understanding the characters and having a talented team that can make a good film based on understanding the characters.
If people loved humor and quips then Batman & Robin , Fantastic Four 1 & 2, Batman Forever would have a 100% rating on Rotten Tomatoes right?
And Batman begins, the Dark Knight, V for Vendetta, Winter Soldier (didn't have many jokes), The Crow would have shit reviews on RT because they hate dark and gritty movies right?
It cant be because the movies are actually pretty shitty regardless of tone right?
Stupid DC fags
>>67645744
HAHAHAHA MARVEL BTFO
>still butthurt dawn of JUST was shit
I'm so sorry OP
>>67645928
Characters are not hard to understand when you boil them down to nothing but quip slinging one dimensional cardboard cutouts. The reason Marvel almost always gets a pass is because of their humor. Their humor is less cringey than in the films you listed, but humor is Marvel's bread and butter. Their movies are fluff.
>>67645744
You can't handle the quips!
>>67645744
I liked Winter Soldier, honestly I think it's Marvel's best movie so far, but I hesitate to think Civil War will be anywhere near as good. I just don't care for the conflict at the core of it. The Avengers absolutely SHOULD have some kind of oversight. Every time they get together they blow up entire cities.
I'm guessing there will be more to it than that, but what could it be? Is he just shilling for Bucky? Bucky is a legitimately dangerous criminal who SHOULD be held accountable for his crimes. Maybe not via prison time since he was lolmindcontrolled or whatever, but something has to happen.
Also, I have never cared less about anything in the world than I do about the fucking infinity gems. That whole subplot is cancer.
>>67646100
>>67645744
I believe you're referring to BvS. CW is gonna be a billion times better.
>>67645928
I honestly think that if Dark Knight had come out in a post-avengers world, it's RT would be SIGNIFICANTLY lower. It wouldn't be getting BvS reviews, it's an objectively better film, but I think it's tone would be a major point of contention.
>>67646688
BvS was a goddamn mess of a movie, no question, but that doesn't change my point about Civil War.
>>67646749
This is correct, although I'd amend it by saying if DK came out post Avengers, AND Heath Ledger hadn't died. But you're right, it's tone would be a major point of contention. Can't have capeshit without muh quips.
>>67646749
You don't know what you're talking about you cinema embryo
>>67646688
It will be a competently made piece of fluff.
>>67646866
Well constructed argument. Thanks for your contribution.
>>67646940
This isn't an argument, cinema embryo
>>67647032
Okie doke.
All signs point to Iron Man being killed off
>>67646574
Winter Soldier works because it is the only Marvel brand movie that doesn't feel like an obnoxious Marvel brand movie. Beyond that, it is just a passable espionage film. Surely not bad, but also nothing spectacular.
>>67647312
It's Cap that gets killed off in muh comics. And he seems far more replaceable. But nothing would be more satisfying to me on a personal level to see that smug prolapsed rectum known as RDJ bite the bullet and be out of capeshit forever.
>>67647392
but RDJ is the best thing Marvel has.
>>67647546
Yeah, how can the dispense with quip master general?
>>67647392
Steve is signed on for major roles in both infinity war films.
RDJ isn't.
>>67647716
But who will quip muh quippens?
>>67646574
>enlisting heroes as part of the us army under thunderbolt "makes abomination and is red hulk" ross and tony "better make a quipbot" stark
>underwater superprison! just like villains do!
>>67647768
We get it your asshurt about the DCU being trash and the only thing you have to fightback is "MUH QUIPS".
kek, even though that is a stupid thing to point out.
You are too much of a fag to see how MCU film s understand the characters better and make better films regardless of the tone.
>>67646574
How the fuck can you take a character named "Bucky" seriously?
>>67647901
DCEU is garbage, MCU is family friendly adventure comedies that are so ball crushingly successful they have become a cancer on cinema. Competently made fluff. Yes, none of the Marvel movies have been terrible, but nor have they been remotely interesting. They are the cinematic equivalent of TGI Fridays,
They have all the power in the world right now. Why can't they at least try to make an interesting movie?
>>67648279
>They are the cinematic equivalent of TGI Fridays,
This.
>>67645744
>blandly shot
Haven't you seen that parking lot fight? It looks fucking beautiful.
>>67648279
Don't talk shit about Friday's. Their potato skins mozzarella triangles are the bomb, yo.
>>67648279
Why should they?
>>67648733
I don't know, why should anybody attempt to be good at their job when it clearly makes no difference? Valid point.
Winter Soldier was good.
Civil War may be better. Depends on how much studio meddling is involved.
I really hope there's a scene where Cap tells Tony to stop joking.
>>67649022
Winter Soldier was good because it dispensed with a lot of Marvel's more obnoxious tropes. My fear is that anything containing Robert Downey Joker is going to be an inane quippapalooza.
>>67645744
Russo Bros.
>>67645744
>>67650553
Does this entire movie take place in and around a fucking airport? Is this a sequel to up in the air?
>>67646688
The Jews really have their hooks in you. All superhero movies of the past decade are shit except for batman begins and the dark knight. Yes I've seen BvS and it was ridiculous.
>its another DCuck butthurt thread
kek
Thank you, Rotten Tomatoes
>>67650553
What do we do?
We quip!
I want /v/ to leave
> yfw final fight scene is Clint and Steve fighting over who gets to cuddle Wanda.
>>67650598
Maybe they dont want to spoil the rest like BvS did in the trailers.
>>67645928
batman begins wasn't good, you marvel loving fucking moron
>>67648907
>>67645744
Civil War looks phenomenally uninteresting. Marvel has been making the same movie for 10 movies straight.
>>67645773
Yeah, we've got sophisticated episodes of Walking Dead to whine about, you unwashed swine!!!!
>>67653109
>I have Rotten Tomatoes rage!
>>67653109
can you explain?
>>67653109
If it's so uninteresting, why can't DCucks stfu about it?
>>67653166
No, but I will when Civil War opens at 98% despite being the same turd Marvel's been polishing for the girthier portion of a decade.
>>67645744
>ITT: DCucks getting BTFO
>>67653168
>Good guy finds a thing. Bad guy gets the thing. Good guy wants the thing back. They fight, good guy loses. They fight again, good guy loses. The fight one more time, good guy wins. Purple space man sits in chair. Repeat.
>>67653293
You forgot quips. Quips are an essential ingredient to the formula. No quips, no sheckles.
>>67653293
This couldn't be a more generic summary of events and yet it still isn't true.
>>67653293
>>67653341
MOS, BvS =forced emotional, and religious nonsense, bad wooden acting, snoozefest till a big outlandish CGI-fest cartoonish fight in the finale.
The DCU formula everyone
>>67653415
>>67653415
Needs more quips. Quips would make this formula perfectly acceptable.
>>67650553
Are you saying you'll quip me?
>I was wrong about quips
>The whole world was wrong about quips
>>67653644
>> Dark and mature is the only way we high class cinema folk like myself can enjoy a film
>>67645744
http://youtu.be/0Dc3aQOhvKw
Have you seen the new promos? Meat's back on the menu DCucks
>>67653971
>Bright and light hearted is the only way card carrying members of the Mickey Mouse Clublike myself can enjoy a film
>>67645744
Because it has good waifus, unlike other capeshit.
>>67654586
Not a surprise the average DCuck is a horsefucker.
>>67651523
>He put a nice counter argument, i will use my opinions to defend myself.
>>67653971
>>67654372
Which one is the Overton Window is leaning towards again?
>>67653293
You described The Avengers series but what about the rest?
The day you'll realize capeshit is inherently childish and stupid is the day you realie that making a pretentious capeshit movie isnt going to make your movie more intelligent, in fact it will only seem stupider.
>>67646574
>I have never cared less about anything in the world than I do about the fucking infinity gems. That whole subplot is cancer.
You'll care when Thanos gets the gems. Trust me
Also in reply to OP's question, there will be one stake in this movie and it will be captain americas death
if they dont kill cap in this movie marvel fucked up extremely hard
>>67645744
I'm looking forward to seeing the quips being ironically spammed on \tv\. I hope my life gets better soon.
Can you tell me what are the primary themes seen in the MCU?
>>67655040
le good guys always win xD
>>67654892
What, when he gathers them up to try to fuck death? I promise you that ain't happening in a Disney film. I bet they'll allude to it by saying he wants to be the "master of death" or some such shit, but if history has taught me anything, it's that Disney Worfs the hell out of it's Marvel characters.
>>67654939
There is nothing more than quips and memes for you, me, and the rest of humanity.Give up
>>67655040
The established order is the best order in all cases.
>>67655040
can you tell me why movies about spandex-wearing big guys beating the crap out of each other need to have "themes" and even more so how can these themes be taken seriously since the premise is so ridiculous?
>>67655040
Teamwork is awesome. Eat your veggies and always do your homework.
>>67645744
>four years
>nearly a decade
>>67655187
Do you discount the value of classical mythology simply because it's premises are often ridiculous? Is the Illiad trash because one of it's characters is an invincible superman with a silly made up weakness?
>>67655040
creation is mirrored by destruction
presence and absence
vision
revenge is all-consuming
absolute power corrupts
The list goes on, but you need a higher cinematic IQ to understand
>>67655295
If you actually read the Iliad and if you'd know anything about the role of homeric epics in greek society, and how that role changed in the course of the centuries, you'd know this is a stupid question.
>>67655391
Care to elaborate?
>>67655040
You can't save everyone.
War will never end.
Just do the best for the ones you care.
>>67655240The Incredible Hulk
2008 ‧ Thriller/Action ‧ 1h 54m
2 more years.
>>67655040
Each hero's series has its own set of themes, freak.
>>67655665
>the incredible hulk
>Disney
>>67655576
Aside from the fact that the role of the greek hero and the usual comic superhero is narratively different from one another. One is a victim of fate, the other stems from the purely modern idea of being in charge of one own destiny.
But the central point is that the Iliad and the Odissey (and the Theogonia) were cultural cornerstones in the truer sense of the word, they were the main course of the greek education, from which every greek derived it's moral and political notions. This changed with the emergence of phlosophy which was in many ways, more often than not explicitly so, a "revolt" against traditional poetic wisdom.
Now tell me how can this be compared to stories shat out monthly for profit, read only by a tiny fraction of the population, in which every coherent charachterization as been thrown out the window for the sake of giving the reader somenthing new, or the same old depending on cases.
>>67654688
Emily towers over cute little Lizzie.
Almost expect her to pat Liz on the head.
>>67657019
Yeah, don't know if she's just short, or if Emily is tall.
>>67657076
She's short. She's one of the goombas from mario.
>>67657604
Where's that meme from.
>>67657076
TFW Scarjo Widow is > QT than Scarjo Witch
>>67657634
lol no
>>67657630
Her mushroomlike face, I suspect.
>>67657665
>>67657665
O rly? The were are Liz's nudes? Ugly beast, can't even find somebody to make coitus with for the benefit of the internet.
All you need to get hyped up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cR6Xa6fEAg
>>67657682
There is literally nothign wrong with her face.
>>67657665
Okay, I will warrant you that is an extremely QT pic. But that is way more QT than she usually looks.
>>67657766
That's her normal look.
>>67646574
But Captain America is trying to defend his best friend, thats the main conflict.
>>67657746
Except it looks like a troll doll. I see too much of her creepy-ass sisters in those eyes. It's creepy.
>>67657783
That looks more like her. Certifiably un-QT
>>67655040
It's a blockbuster m8, it explores the same themes as Die Hard or Rambo
>>67657812
Why not just appreaciate that the good genes went to her.
It will also have terrible cgi
>>67657850
Only minus the good stuff. It's a fluffier version of an action movie, and I think that's why it doesn't do much for me. I need them fucks and gunshot wounds. It's better than DC, at least there's no pretentiousness, but would it kill you to throw in some titties?
>>67657849
Shit taste pham.
>super hero civil war
I'm a NEET and I don't even understand how someone can get excited about this stupid capeshit
>superheroes fighting each other
just autistic fanfic as fuck
>>67657949
Avengers with titties would be an excellent movie. Or, like, Guardians of the Galaxy, but they showed John C Reilly fucking his pink lady.
>>67657989
What did he mean by this?
Who the fuck cares? Do you faggots really watch this capeshit?
>>67658075
Yes. What do you watch? The Revenant?
>>67658125
I only true Kino, like the first 5 minutes of TDKR.
>>67650903
Steve cuddles Bucky and Clint brings Wanda to his wife so they can cuddle together.
>>67645773
what happened to /tv/?
>>67650903
The winner isyou.
>>67648279
Fridays is overpriced shit. Even Ruby Tuesday is better.
>>67645744
Im not giving you shit you massive faggot. You are a literal nobody and I could care less what you think about anything. Watch whatever the fuck you want.
>>67658216
All the refined, cultured gentlemen migrated to /r/movies
>>67658325
Okay.
>>67658216
Redwood and swaglord let the plebs take over because the money from studios was too good
moot was literally saving us from them and we gave him shit for removing the waifu posters
>mfw DCucks are so far up their own asses with Jesus imagery and drowning horses, that they can't handle a little fun
>>67658452
>>mfw DCucks are so far up their own asses with Jesus imagery and drowning horses, that they can't handle a little Disneyfication of a decent story
FTFY
>>67657949
>dc
>no pretentiousness
You have shit opinions and no argument
>>67658542
>civil war
>decent
Literally the only thing interesting was the concept of Avengers fighting each other.
The less the movie follows the comic story, the better.
>>67658580
Are you saying DC films are not pretentious? Or at the very least, are not more pretentious than Marvel films?
>>67645744
>he didn't watch Winter Soldier, Guardians of the Galaxy, or Ant-Man
>>67659054
>Guardians of the Galaxy and Ant-man are the definition of a zero stakes cgi quipfest
Less blandly shot than the others though, fair enough.
>>67658581
>Literally the only thing interesting was the concept of Avengers fighting each other.
The movie looks to deliver that in spades.
>>67659349
That's what i'm saying, they should follow the concept of superheroes fighting each other over government control, but that's it.
The comic book was terrible and they ended up making Tony a sunday-morning cartoon villain because they had literally no idea of how to continue it.
>>67646749
The dark knight is ranked top 10 all time movies ever by imdb for a reason though. it's barely even a superhero movie it's just a really good crime drama and ledger was the glue that held it together. I'm not saying I think it's the best ever, but it's the best movie I've seen featuring a superhero in a long time (but I haven't seen Deadpool yet I heard it was dope too)
>>67659378
> ended up making Tony a sunday-morning cartoon villain
Sign me up. Send that fucker out in blaze of mustache twirling glory. That would be unexpected.
>>67659484
Oh no, i'm all for seeing Tony BTFO, but making him an outright villain would just be dissapointing since it's the main flaw of comic CW.
>>67659477
I agree, but I do think that Marvel has kind of set the tone for what people expect capeshit to smell like. I think Dark Knight would be off-putting and boring to a lot of people these days.
If you didn't like the previous 10 Marvel movies then you probably won't like this one. If you DID like them, then yeah, this movie will probably be right up your alley.
Surely you didn't need people on the internet to spoonfeed you that, right?
>>67659477
deadpool is nowhere near as good as TDK. I legit have no reason why you would even think theyre even close to resembling each other
>>67657973
She looks weird with a toothy smile
>>67659673
Looksfine.
>>67645744
If you liked the Capekino Winter Soldier, you'll like this movie
If you didn't like Winter Soldier than you have shit taste and you need to leave.
>>67645744
U mad bro? Why u mad?
>>67648141
Obviously you weren't supposed to when he was the fun child soldier sidekick. But I think it adds charm to the character since he was taken and brainwashed and had his identity essentially erased at a young age. Now he's pushing 100 and all he has left is his childhood best friend who overlooks all the crimes and still calls him by his nickname. It humanizes him.
>>67659720
looks QT2ME
>>67661644
Yup.
>>67659720
She's definitely attractive, but I feel like I would only fuck her anally. I'm not even a big anal guy, but there's something about her that makes me want to put it in her pooper real bad.
>>67661676
Yup.
>>67661676
She has a big butt.
>>67661676
Maybe because she looks like AJ Applegate and that one practically does anal only?
>>67661716
This supports my supposition.
>>67661744
It's crazy, but I think you just unlocked something in my subconscious. This is 100% correct.
Also, see you senpai. Off to fap.
I can't wait until the BvS dust settles so we can have a good Marvel bashing thread without accusations of being a butthurt DCuck
>>67662577
Never gonna happen, family.
>>67662577
Maybe if you weren't such a butthurt DCuck you'd realize Marvel makes pretty decent flicks, Senpai.
>>67658627
I misread, dc is pretentious
>>67663209
Word, pham.
