This movie makes a Batman fan happy.
After Burton's gothic bullshit and Nolan's realism boner, we finally get to see an actual fucking Batman, wearing an actual fucking Batsuit, driving an actual fucking Batmobile, doing actual fucking comic book shit.
What else do you want faggots?!
>>67599764
A moral code
>>67599909
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gz3fZoSJpg0
>2:38
Yeah, that truck driver is totally alive
>>67599764
A Straight forward story with Batfleck doing cool shit.
>Batman vs Superman
>Old Gods
>Darkseid
>Wonder Woman
>3 other Justice League cameos
shouldn't have been in the second movie and Henry Cavill already said that
>>67599764
As a major Batman fantard, I am thoroughly excited and happy with this incarnation of Batman. I loved the first two Nolan films and thought the others were just OK.
>>67599972
he never said anything about the others actually having a moral code, what's your point?
>>67600040
I'm just pissed that nobody gives a shit when Bale killed.
Fucking Nolan cucks.
>>67599764
He's a breddy good batman imho, but just cut this shit out with the edgy swearing and murdering all over the place.
>>67600101
When?
>>67599764
Chill.
We got Deadpool after that horrible Wolverine Origins.
Batfleck will get his own movie too.
>>67599764
>wearing an actual fucking Batsuit
Yeah I like Iron Bat Mark VII Suit
>>67599764
batman not killing everybody because fuck it.
batman actually doing detective shit
Those would be a couple places to start.
>>67600101
He didn't kill them, he just didn't save them, there was a whole speech about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aN3M26pGC8Q
>>67599764
>we finally get to see an actual fucking Batman
No we did not. He was nothing like the comics Batman.
Yes, Batman sometimes kills in the comics. But that's always because he was forced to do it and it's a big moment for him that usually feels like he lost.
Here he just slaughters everyone.
>>67600456
I still can't believe that suit had unprotected face. What the fuck?
Superman could just throw a rock in his face and kill him.
First 5 minutes are Spoiler FREE...after that though, I spoil nearly EVERYTHING!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sy2UbJeTsgs
>>67600741
oh noes a slightly different characterisation of batman where he's clearly gone through some terrible shit over the last 20 years and views Superman as an existential threat to the point of end justifying the means in stopping him. How awful!
>>67599909
In the comics he lost his moral code after the death of Jason, and who stops him? Superman, in this movie? Superman wasnt his friend or even existed when Jason died. And after Superman's sacrifice Batman goes bat to the no kill rule. Literally perfect arc.
>>67599764
You're not a fan if you think that was Batman.
>>67600741
>Yes, Batman sometimes kills in the comics.
No, he doesnt. Only DKR does that. and this is based on that.
I liked the Burton gothic aesthetic.
>>67600803
>>67600456
Iron bat suit is on the comics matte.
The problem of the movie is that it is just too crowded.
You can't put Bats, Supes, WW, Aquaman and Luthor on the same movie because there is just no time for proper development.
Avengers 1 worked because Iron man, Captain Puerto Rico and Thor already had their own movies.
That's the only reason explaining shit was not necessary. Most cape movies that attempt for epicness end up in disappointment because it gets too convoluted.
Xmen 3, Spiderman 3, new spiderman 2... Too many plots, not enough character development, 2 or 3 villains, 7 personal conflicts, unclear main characters, etc...
It never works because it can't work. Too much information for 2 hours.
>>67599764
>What else do you want faggots?!
Anything but Batfleck honestly.
>>67599764
>What else do you want faggots?!
A good movie.
>>67600863
he says after the entire first arc with his tank that fires magical rubber bullets and magical explosives that will throw people into the air yet somehow not scramble their insides...
>>67600875
I didn't like the suit or Bruce Wayne, but damn Joker, Penguin and Catwoman were perfect.
>nobody has posted the pasta yet
>>67600606
Same shit goes for Batfleck as well.
His kills were all indirect
>>67600606
He straight up kills fuckers in the Dark knight. Murdered the guy in the garbage truck, tosses dogs off a building, killed harvey dent etc.
>>67600741
No he doesn't kill... that's both Bats and Supes thing. They don't kill unless they are on an elseworld.
Red Son superman kills, Mad Superman kills, normal superman does not kill.
Batman doesn't kill, not even after Robin is brutally murdered. Thomas Wayne Bats kills because he doesn't give a shit but Bruce Wayne Batman does not.
>>67600909
too bad it's a great film :)
>>67599764
>What else do you want faggots?!
A good movie.
>>67600803
I fucking hate Youtube thumbnails.
>>67599909
I don't
>>67600833
>lost his moral code after the death of Jason
That would explain the Robin suit with the Joker graffiti on it.
I like to think Joker was his first kill in this universe
>>67601375
>I like to think Joker was his first kill in this universe
Then how come we are getting SHUSIDE SQUAD?
>>67599764
Only part of the movie I liked. Can't wait for the solo batfleck movie
>>67599972
it's just a prank bro
>>67599909
fuck off.
>>67601171
>Thomas Wayne Batman
wait, what the fuck?
>>67601375
They cut out a nightmare sequence of Jason dying that explains this
>>67600588
Batman did more detective shit in this film than all the Nolan films combined.
>>67600741
>comics Batman.
What a fucking meaningless statement from a person who knows nothing of worth.
By "comics Batman", you inevitably mean "wikiepedia Batman". The idea of Batman in your head, the idea of Batman comics in your head or from Cracked/Buzzfeed articles "5 Times The Batman Killed In The Comics! You Won't Believe Number #2!!"
>>67601491
alternate universe where Bruce was shot and the parents suffered. Thomas became Batman seeking vengeance over justice and killing every criminal
Martha became the Joker
>comic book fags are so fucking dumb as to think that nobody ever dies or gets seriously injured from being punched and kicked really hard in the head and neck area
>wahhh batman stabbed a guy in the shoulder blades
die in your sleep pls
>>67601541
This is how I feel everytime that faggot posts HURR JESSE WAS LEX LUTHOR JUNIOR YOU CAN'T CRITICIZE HIS PERFORMANCE.
>>67600369
Like when he crushed the truck driver, in that video he posted.
I agree with all the positive opinions here. I still think that concept of the other justice League heroes needing help from Batman is dumb as shit but every scene with Batman in BvS was really great.
Bale Batman seemed like just a really strong guy while the very first scene with Batfleck made him seem almost supernatural, like his first scene in Batman begins. Some of you complain about "lol DC dark edgyfags" but TDKR especially could've had less batman farting about in the daytime looking ridiculous and more of him looking scary
>>67599764
Nolan was the best thing to happen to capeshit. This movie is videogame-tier with a batman that looks like an ogre.
Man I felt legit sad for Superman when Batfleck just went apeshit on him.
>>67600588
H>>67600588
He did more detective shit than he has an any of the other movies.
>>67601652
Batman is supposed to be huge. Bale looked like a DYEL faggot with that suit compared to Bin Afleqi.
>>67600803
You are hilariously cringey.
>>67599764
>hating on Burton's Batman
He knew a dude playing dress up in a bat suit was tongue-in-cheek faggotry and did the best with the pulp source material.
>>67600741
>batman mows down grunts like it's nothing
>joker is still alive
>snyder
>>67599764
his batsuit looks like shit. this actually looks scary, or at least cool.
well, as a superman fan i'd like to be happy too. i'd like a fucking scene where superman helps a kid fix his bike, actually fucking smiles, and flies off. just because, not because he feels he has to be an incredibly unsubte christ metaphor that smahes the audience over the head again and again
>>67601375
He started killing after superman fight with zod.
>>67601933
>that
>scary
>or cool
'no'
>>67600785
I know, right?
That shit bothered me all the time.
I mean, it doesn't make any sense for Batman having his mouth uncovered
that's suicidal!
>>67599764
I just want this Batman to be in a better movie
Also if he is gonna be a blunt murderer it should be better explained why
>>67601933
yes, batman with a huge head having to turn his entire body to look side to side, and not being able to lift his arms above his shoulders like some crippled department store mannequin looked fucking terrifying.
not a DC fan, but as i understand it, Batman and Superman are the big guns, with maybe WW as a third wheel.
I just think it's hilarious to give us the big guns first then expect people to be exicted by the JL teases of the members no one gives a shit about.
yeah, i'm so excited for underwater khal drogo and black robocop
>>67600785
You're right. That was the problem with this this movie.
>>67602035
more than batfleck's spandex and clipped ears.
>>67599909
Not for this particular elseworld.
>who the fuck cares if Batman murders indiscriminately!! It's just fucking sweet to see him fucking stab a guy lol I mean it makes more sense to just fucking murder everyone right? I mean they would just come back later so you might as well just FUCKING murder everyone!!!! Its what makes him cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How to spot an edgy teenager 101
>>67599764
>>67602094
shit funcionality aside, standing still he looks better than batfleck
This entire CU is fucked beyond repair. everyone is dark, dour, old, cynical and unlikeable. the best thing they can do now is just go full Injustice
>>67602142
>spandex
You're talking out of your ass
>>67602213
I actually wanna see Zack Snyder try to make a Justice League movie just for fun
Like they would go to stop some villain and end up leveling an entire continent
>>67600864
Literally the opposite my pleb friend. He doesnt kill anyone on TDKR. He kills Dick on TDKSA. And kills several times on his first year of comic books. He also kills in several comic book elseworlds. And literally in every live action incarnation excluding George Clooney one. But not on Frank Millers the dark kniht returns.
>>67599764
No
it still not showing the makeup around his eyes when he takes off the mask
>>67602202
That's an opinion. It is a ridiculous opinion, but an opinion none the less.
>>67601375
No, he literally retires without killing anyone. Is after Superman V Zod where he loses his moral code and becomes cruel. The newspaper says this and so Alfred.
>>67573011
Seriously.
Thank you Zack "kino is all I know" Snyder
>>67602275
He kills the Mutant leader in DKR
>>67600890
>Batman
Doesn't need an origins story. Everything we needed to know about him was demonstrated visually or through lines in the movie.
>Superman
He had his origins film.
>Lex
Everyone knows Lex Luthor. Doesn't need a huge back story.
>Wonder Woman
Getting her own movie. Basically has a cameo and her entire reason for being there is explained.
>Aquaman and the rest
Getting their own movies, plus it's not like they had any big role that needed development.
Literally no new information needed for this film to make it crowded.
>>67602274
And you will see. BvS will end making 1b which was the goal for WB. There is no stop for the edge-train. And Im glad. No one is removing the Marvel light comedies for anyone who wants them. Its fine to have both. Extremely campy, tv show tier action comedies and 2grim4u suicidecore films.
>>67601491
Flashpoint. Good story.
Affleck was born to play Batman
>>67602356
No he doesnt you fucking faggot. He just breaks his limbs but you can see him on prison later.
>>67601541
Yeah, no one ever read comics but you.
>>67599909
>A moral code
Pay attention to the movie next time you cuc.k
>BvS
>Batman is old (In his 40's/50's. Says hes been doing this for 20 years and is OLDER than his father ever was)
>Getting more disillusioned with the world - the death of his employees in the events of MoS
>18 months pass between MoS and BvS
>Jason Dies
>Joker
>Wayne Manor burns down.
This Batman is a lot more jaded - while still keeping 'tatters' of his rules (As Alfred says - are the rules changing? And Bruce says 'nothings changed').
Hence now he brands people - and doesn't care if people die via explosions.
This is taken even further in the Knightmare scene (where its shown he goes FULL Punisher and uses guns)
>>67602467
>projecting your opinions SUPER hard onto a movie to support your argument
>>67602427
This.
Best Batman to date
>>67601652
The Batman this is based off of was a fucking refridgerator.
>>67602520
>Projecting opinions.
Tell me what I listed that wasn't shown in the movie?
Sorry everything wasn't spelled out for you as always marvelcuck
>>67602467
>the Knightmare scene
>>67599909
The "not killing batman" was necesary to sell comics for a child audience, its as valuable and necessary as Superman underpants in his suit.
>>67602467
He actually shoots a lot of people when rescuing Martha.
But yeah I agree. Its obvious he had his no kill rule during his career. The same no kill rule that made Robin, Gordon and Barbara die. The same no kill rule that didnt solve the crime issue in Gotham.
He just snapped after watching all his friends and employees died at the hands of the Supermen.
He realized everything he did up until that point was a child play. Literally RP with his furfag friends.
>>67601652
>This movie is videogame-tier with a batman that looks like an ogre.
Yes.
Thats purposeful.
>>67600741
He's literally Classic Miller Batman through and through.
>>67600312
He said shit once didn't he? And that was when an invincible kryptonian monster is about to blast him to nothing.
>>67602520
>That's how it starts. The fever, the rage, the feeling of powerlessness that turns good men... cruel.
>Twenty years in Gotham. How many good guys are left? How many stay that way?
All these lines literally explaining how Batman became the way he is.
>>67602626
>But yeah I agree. Its obvious he had his no kill rule during his career. The same no kill rule that made Robin, Gordon and Barbara die. The same no kill rule that didnt solve the crime issue in Gotham.
Exactly this, well put.
>>67600312
When did he swear outside of Doomsday about to kill him?
I bet this batman snapped and thats why he kills people. whos to say when the justice league comes together they wont enact a no kill rule? no way batman would be okay with that level of power having that much freedom.
>Batman
>Gothic set design is "bullshit"
>>67602654
Yup
Best Batman
>>67602703
>Superman u cheeky cunt, ima gonna fuck ur shit up
Couldn't believe my ears when he said that
>>67602051
Its been confirmed we will learn why Batman got his shit fucked up in suicide squad
>>67602749
>>67602654
> that brutal way he breaks down the mutant leader piece by piece
Why did Miller have to go insane?
>I SWEAR THIS GOD DAMN FUCKING SPACE NIGGER AND HIS STUPID SAD FACE WITH HIS STUPID BALDING HEAD. SINCE HE CAME TO EARTH I CANNOT HAVE A GOD DAMN SINGLE WET DREAM WITH CATWOMAN WHERE THAT FUCKING RED MEXICAN DOESNT JUMP IN INTO MY DREAMS TO DELIVER CRYPTIC LINES ABOUT SOME RETARDED MEXICAN SHIT. GOD DAMN SUPERFAG AND YOUR MEXICAN DREAMJUMPER FRIEND. IM GOING TO RAPE YOU ALL, YOU HEAR ME? RAPE YOU ALL! I WILL GO 9/11 ON YOUR FUCKING ASSES!
Wooahh, I think thats too much Snyder, Batman would never talk like that
I am going to see this film tomorrow and if Batman goes about 'slaughtering' people as 4chan says, I will be very surprised.
>>67602657
He should have a stronger moral code than that. Just because you're about to die, does not mean you should succumb to the temptations of potty language.
This film proves that the best Batman stories will never be told on film. Zack plundered them all.
I think that BvS getting trashed in reviews only made people flock to watch it to see if it was actually as bad as they were told.
And the best part is that they got rid of Snyder for it, the public can only be tricked much before it bites you in the ass. Maybe Batfleck's movie will be better than Batman Begins even.TDK's plot is shit, Returns is not even about Batman.
>>67602817
He doesn't kill anyone, he just goes collateral damage happy
>>67602812
He'll be fine
>>67601933
>Has to turn body in order to move
>walks around like a fucking retard
>Scary
>>67602827
We still have Under the Red Hood amd then Killing Joke
I thought the whole no-kill rule was there to justify why Bats even bothers with the gadgets, acrobatics and ninja shenanigans? I mean why bother becoming one of the greatest martial artists and stealth experts when just running around capping people was always an option?
>>67602895
How about you read the thread fampai. This batman is disillusioned and jaded.
>>67602749
I hope we get a suit with the black and yellow emblem. But they'll probably make it gold, which I would be okay with too desu.
>>67602817
He doesnt stop killing during the 2 hours 30 that the movie lasts. In fact, he even kills in his dreams.
But its not random. Its pretty clear he snapped after Zod's attack.
His new moral code is pretty much, If Im driving my car or my batwing, you are pretty much dead. If Im outside the car...you end alive, but I will sentence you to prison death anyways.
>>67602850
He's actually looking a lot better now
>>67599764
> wearing an actual fucking Batsuit, driving an actual fucking Batmobile,
The batmobile of Nolan for me is better than the new one.
And the batsuit, I think the new one is better but the Nolan's suit was also great.
>>67602834
Thats the whole point about Returns. And the best part of it.
1989 covered pretty much the whole Batman character. He had his origin, his most important fight and revenge for his parents. Literally everything was closed. Take in mind this is before the forced trilogy cancer and it was a standalone movie.
Instead of adding retarded shit to Bruce in Returns they did a smarter thing and its about the villains. How they do reflect on Batman, how they do react to Batman and the city. Batman is pretty much an antagonist hunter and the villains deformed reflections of Batman. Literally 10/10. Specially considering the fact they pretty much closed the character story on 1989.
>>67602895
The no kill rule and revolving prison door system is to justify 70 years of comic books and reusing the same villains over and over. It has no place on movies.
There is no deep meaning behind it. Its just a marketing tool to sell funny books to manchildren.
>>67602938
He MOSTLY kills in his dreams
>>67602938
and even that is from frank millers comics
>>67603126
I love All Star no ironically. Its fucking deranged, comical and has great pieces such as the Hal Jordan issue.
Its even more comical when you realize this is the counterpart to Superman All Star.
Odyssey and All Star are the only books worth reading.
>>67601442
when is it coming out?
>>67600863
i do think that, i'm a fan... that was batman...
>>67603375
Some people said he shot him in the shoulder. I think its pretty much agreed he didnt kill in TDKR. But he kills in Strikes again.
>>67603235
I love how Frank Miller's Bats calls Supes a clown and Green Lantern retarded. Ben Affleck still has some leeway.
>>67603021
>Nolan's suit was also great.
Nolan BB Suit is perfect, The best Batman suit ever, TDK and TDKR were a bit TOO tacticool for me.
>>67603375
I believe you.
>>67603412
yeah... in the shoulder... because a close range shot with that "little gun" will just hurt somebody... never kill... is not like the human body is full of blood or something...
>>67601535
I still liked the bullet from the wall thing from TDK.
This movie just had him putting a usb drive into his computer and press unencrypt.
>>67602467
Pottery
reminder that comic accuracy is not important AT ALL
original ideas are A-ok. some comic ideas are stupid.
examples:
Batman Begins
The Dark Knight
Spider-Man
Spider-Man 2
Iron Man
Iron Man 3
Guardians of the Galaxy
Ant-Man
>>67602858
lmao and your proof that batfleck is scary is a picture of him in a dark alley like a ghost in a shitty jump scare horror movie
>>67604292
Batman has NEVER actually been scary. Are you actually afraid of Tim Burton's Batman? Are you some kind of faggot?
>>67603430
The Batman Begins suit is bizarre looking. The nose is pointy, the ears are cropped back like a doberman, the mouth is too round and gives him pudgy cheeks, the bottom of the cowl is square and looks like the collar on a 70's leisure suit, Plus the armor makes him look weird and bulky. The whole thing just looks wrong.
>>67602467
Dont forget that Bruce states that they are criminals anyways. Im a Batman fan and I loved this Batman. Ben killed it.
>>67599764
>>67599984
>>67600830
>>67605455
>Batman fans
It's ok you guys made a mistake. You are really Punisher fans.
>>67602467
Marvelfags and butthurt DC fans will dismiss this. In the context of the film, this all fits perfectly with his personality throughout it all.
>>67599983
THIS. Also, Frank Miller isn't the end all, be all of Batman comic book writers. How about taking inspiration from someone else?
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>>67605679
Three movies Punisher has appeared in, none of the even slightly good. Fuck off, you mindless Mousekateer,
>>67604913
>getting triggered that hard
KEK
>>67603375
Literally retarded.
>>67605897
You don't belong here, All Punisher flims were KINO.
>>67603593
The gadgeteering wasn't as good in this film, but he's shown doing actual detective work tracking down the White Portuguese. Alfred even points out that he did it all as Bruce Wayne, not Batman.
>>67602467
So there's no chance Batman will come in any contact with Joker in the entire DCEU, because if he did and your bullshit reasoning is correct he'd have to snap joker's neck first chance he gets
unless new joker is MUH TWEEST JASON TODD XD which is a whole new level of hackery, even from the dogshit studio/director that brought us MoS and BvS
>>67606196
>So there's no chance Batman will come in any contact with Joker in the entire DCEU
In the Suicide Squad there is a scene of Bat chasing Joker and Harley
>>67606249
im saying physical contact.
if batman kills a bunch of random thugs with no remorse, but lets joker off the hook at any point, DCEU just continues to show how incompetent their writers are.
>Clark kills Zod out of sheer desperation to save Metropolis and is torn up about it
>"LOL MAN OF MURDEEEERRRR!"
>Bruce is slaughtering goons left and right without batting an eye even though he had an UNBREAKABLE no killing and no guns rule for DECADES
>"Batfleck is God! All praise the greatest Batman"
What the fuck is wrong with you people?
>>67601250
>I want a good movie
>links tomatoes
Just out with it redditor, say you want good scores, big numbers from "critics" with arguments like "no fun", "jokes, where are the jokes every 10 seconds?", "too dark, I'm scared".
>>67601468
lmfao
>>67606196
>because if he did and your bullshit reasoning is correct he'd have to snap joker's neck first chance he gets
Did you actually watch BvS? Supes help put him back on the right path, hence why he punched the wall beside Luthor with the brand instead of Luthor himself like he would have done earlier in the film.
>>67602797
Confirmed where?
My own retarded speculation is that Robin was killed by the Joker or the Joker was killed by Batman; pushing Batman over the edge. In Suicide Squad the Joker is featured only in flashbacks with Harley, and one of the above might happen involving Batman.
Yeah, none of this is gonna happen.
When I wrote that first post, I meant I wanted a live action Batman that didn't kill for once.
>>67601023
I assumed the dogs were thrown into a stairwell, did he actually just toss some dogs off a fucking building?
>>67599909
I like to think the Joker wins because Batman looses his moral code to kill certain types of people, and Joker is retired from hunting down Batman to pursue his hip hop career in prison.
>>67599764
Now that Batman has no problem just killing dozens of bad guys with machine guns, he'll have no reason not to immediately just kill The Joker the next time they meet. That will be a short but sweet movie. Can't wait.
>>67609001
If Batman doesn't kill the Joker after mercilessly killing those other people then Batman is the most evil of all
>>67606720
Yeah this
