There was a bretty gud thread about going to film school (or not) yesterday. Let's continue.
Friendly reminder that directors like:
>Steven Spielberg
>Quentin Tarantino
>James Cameron
>Christopher Nolan
>Paul Thomas Anderson
>Ridley Scott
>Peter Jackson
>Akira Kurosawa
didn't go to film school while hacks like Michael Bay, Zack Snyder and Roman Polanski did.
So you think going to film school is a bad idea then?
>>67559138
I don't know. If you get a free ride, it might be worth it for the college experience (pussy and booze). Other than that, not really.
>>67559138
given how much money it costs to do it, you would be better off spending that money on making a short and trying to get it into festivals.
film school teaches you nothing you can't learn from watching movies and using the internet.
>>67558959
What if someone went to film school, was one failed edit ing class away from graduating but never made it up and then the school went bankrupt and closed down.
depends where you live. eurofag here and going to film school is the only way to meet some "important" people
>>67558959
Majoring in film right now. If you're going to go to a film school or anything like that, then you NEED to take advantage of it. That means connecting with people and networking. That means using the equipment there to either get a knowledge of how it works, or to produce your own shitty short films. And yeah, they're probably going to be shit. But you need to make them because you don't learn anything from babying this "great" idea because you just don't have the right camera or right location to make it work yet.
Film school is definitely not right for everyone. It costs money. The piece of paper you get is not worth the paper it's printed on. You're probably going to meet the most self-delusional people you'll ever meet. But, if you're going to do it, then make the most out of it. And if you're not going to film school right now, then make the most out of what you're doing right now.
what does /tv/ think about all the sources on youtube that offer a film school like experience. for instance...
filmmaking:
>film riot
>indy mogul
>rocketjump film school
>lights film school
>http://nofilmschool.com/
film theory/analysis/history:
>everyframeapainting
>nerdwriter
>channel Criswell
>cinema tyler
>Dan Fox
>now you see it
then you have an endless amount of critics to pick and choose from depending on taste. What is missing here that film school offers?
>>67559328
>write a script
>buy/rent a camera
>cast some local theater actors
>shoot a film in 10 days
>edit
>send it to festivals
>???
>make another one
I don't know why you should meet those important people before you've made at least one film on your own, other than to suck their dicks, and my gag reflex is very poor.
>>67558959
Polanski is better than half the guys you listed. You can also add William Friedkin to the anti-film school list.
>>67559596
>What is missing here that film school offers?
Women, booze, parties, "networking" aka friending other wannabes on Facebook.
>>67559611
also:
>make film school students/graduates do everything for free for a credit
just put an ad up and you will have more replies than you can handle.
the one thing that film school can do is give you an in when you realise you aren't ever going to make it and apply for poorly paid runner jobs.
by far the best thing to do is specialise in some little known production/post role like camera assistant and become the GOAT at it. work on 2/3 movies and you will be in work for life.
>>67559786
life offers all those things for free.
>>67559930
>make film school students/graduates do everything for free for a credit
This is actually what Finnish film schools do. It's no coincidence that one of the schools is located on the same lot with the national broadcasting company. I don't want to end up as a living light stand for sports news so I probably won't go even though it's kind of free.
>>67558959
>film school
Are you in Europe? Then yes.
Are you in America? Maybe
Is it USC, AFI, or NYU? Yes
Anything else? No.
>>67559595
>cable car sequence
???
>>67558959
>Ridley Scott
>didn't go to a film school
Lemme quote Scott's wikipedia article real quick:
>He studied at (... ) West Hartlepool College of Art from 1954 to 1958, obtaining a diploma in design.
>Scott went on to study at the Royal College of Art in London, contributing to college magazine ARK and helping to establish the college film department.
>"I use everything I learned everyday at art school. It's all about white sheets of paper, pens and drawing."
>— Scott speaking on the influence the Royal College of Art has had in designing the visuals for his films.
TECHNICALLY you are correct, but not really.
>>67560818
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woDyKekeTTg
>>67560704
>Are you in Europe? Then yes
EXPLAIN
>>67559786
So nothing important then
>going to film school
>not just going to films.
Anyone here actually work in the film or television industry? That's the idea of going to film school right?
>severe anxiety issues
>no method of transportation
>have spent the last 6 or 7 years writing and immersing myself in film in the meantime
>mentioned in passing to people that i wanted to write and direct
>"hmm me too"
>found out recently friend that had zero interest in this is working on a movie now while i'm still doing nothing
why do i even bother waking up
srsly, i'm a victim of my own stupid hangups and i'm never going to do anything. literally cucked.
>>67563632
you're a victim of your own stupid hangups and you're never going to do anything. literally cucked.
>>67564539
very true
>>67558959
only good thing about school is connections. I'm graduating with a real degree but since i didn't go to film school I know no one in that industry. Thus the issue.
>>67560704
En im getting me work than my friends who did the nyu thing.
Anecdotally usc, ucla, columbia and fsu are much better (most people at nyu and afi are either career ruiningly pretentious or not all that interested)
I think it depends on what people want to do exactly.
Most people want to be writer/directors and for them honestly I'm not sure there's any point going to film school if they are capable of putting together a team of friends to make a film they wrote. If one is of a more anti-social nature, film school can be a good placed to be forced to work with prople until you learn to deal with it because that's literally 90% of a director's job.
On the other hand, I'm doing a course specializing in cinematography (so camera and lights + technical knowledge) and I'm finding it incredibly useful. After just the first two weeks I realized how much garbage and misinformation is on those youtube channels and stuff and I've been learning so much from practicing, talking to other cinematography students and being around my tutor 4-5 days a week and asking whatever questions come to our heads. Some stuff is almost impossible to learn as quickly without going to film school and having access to the kinds of things we have access to for free (cameras, all kinds of lighting and grip equipment etc. ).
So yeah, if you want to learn the texhnical side, film school is great. Directors, not so much for you guys. Oh also I'm on a Masters course rather than a 'regular' (?) degree, so there's a lot of communication and we're treated like adults rather than being railroaded through a 1-2-3 curriculum, so that's a plus.
>>67565816
>railroaded through a 1-2-3 curriculum
That's what local film schools would be for me. But I could maybe use the social aspect. I feel that I should push myself really hard outside of film school and then couple of years down the line, if I need it, I could go there and use it to my advantage.
I also feel that cinematographers can really benefit from film school, especially the ones that have rich kids shooting their epic science fiction short films with ridiculous sets and RED Weapons and all that jazz.
>>67562911
I used to be an editor/videographer for an e-sports team, but that was actually before I started film school.
As for the idea of going to film school, I'll be honest. I'm extremely unpassionate about everything else, and though it's a "waste" to get a degree in something like this, I'd rather be doing this than anything else right now. Even if it means working in a less than desirable job later on, as long as it means I can do film stuff.
>>67558959
>Roman Polanski
>Hack
What?
He made Rosemary's Baby and Chinatown.
>>67567380
Repulsion was kinda hacky.
>>67558959
Polanski isn't a hack.
>>67566486
Ye I got at least a couple of people on my course that are ready and willing to spend >20k on their (cool guy effects sci fi drama) grad film.
Why? I'm not sure, but there you go.
>>67568579
fuck off
>>67570975
Become friends with those guys and you'll get a kick ass reel out of it.
>>67559611
If you are making your first kino then you should start small. Short Kino is best.
Plan on using few locations, few actors, no vfx/stunts/period piece setting, etc to save money.
Learn to edit/color correct it yourself if you are the director to save money.
Royalty free music is out there.
At least spend money on a Good DP with camera/light kit and a pro sound mixer.
going to film school or not going is irrelevant
just a waypoint on the journey to success or failure that you would have been on anyways
If you want to make art, any type of art, going to a school will just teach you how to make the same shit that everybody else does.
was going to apply to local film schools but messed up the dead lines pretty bad... like my short i was going to send them. u guys make me feel better about myself. Tom Hanks.
