Welp, that was mediocre as fuck. Why did it get such praise?
>>67402682
Because tumblr wasn't offended by it
I'm not joking, the progressivism it toted is the main reason it got good reviews.
>>67402682
Because it wasn't BvS
>>67402682
Because "being better than the prequels" was considered the bar for success, so anything above that was met positively.
Also don't confuse RT percentage with actual score, as the former is a list of positive reviews, which can vary anywhere from 6 to 10. Star Wars VII was viewed positively by 90-some percent of critics, but has a score of 7ish.
>>67402682
>Being a "NERD" is big right now
>It's Star Wars so it is bound to sell even if it is mediocre dribble
>JJ played it safe so nothing original and it wouldn't turn out to be another prequel trilogy, and everyone hates those because RLM told them too
>JJ is great at hyping things up, see his previous movies, they all have an air of mystery surrounding them and security causing people to wonder what they are about until release then they are forgotten after the month they premier
because despite what you fuckers say it was a solid movie and a decent set up for future sequels
>>67403105
>a decent set up for future sequels
This. Based Rian will deliver.
>>67403105
No, it wasn't.
>"So we disable the shied, take out the oscillator and we blow up their big gun"
>>67402682
>Why did it get such praise?
because it wasn't a terdfest like the prequels
I think they were trying to court new, younger audiences. I mean, people our age shouldn't be obsessed with Star Wars. It's for kids and teenagers. Fanboys will see the movie anyway.
And for the people complaining about the technical aspects, I implore you to tell me when the OT ever got into the specifics of how ships work. Seriously. It's all offhand dialogue and various technobabble.
>>67403105
>average movie
>blatant remake of a new hope
>ugly doctor who rejects
still not enough to get all that ass kissing
It was a soulless cashgrab made by a bunch of men in suits trying to make the movie as hyped as possible so they could sell R2D2 soup and action figures. It was an average blockbuster movie designed to make the most money possible, not to make a great movie. It felt like I was watching an average marvel movie.
>>67403105
Episode 7 was the definition of a movie made by committee. The future movies will be the same. It'll all be the same formulaic Marvelshit no matter who the director is.
>>67402682
Because of normies, nostalgiafags and sjw's.
Also because Disney was pumping millions to make sure it had positive image.
>>67403255
Right. Prequels had a lot of garbage in them, but at least they were pretty fun Star Wars movies. Significantly dumbed down, but still Star Wars. This shit was just generic capeshit tier. And I would argue that it was way bigger tardfest than prequels. How can one movie have this many plot holes and inconsistencies? What idiot wrote this? How was this retarded script even approved and green-lit?
Is it wrong I find more enjoyment in rewatching The Phantom Menace than I do The Force Awakens? That shows how terrible of a movie episode VII is. Feels like a chore just getting through it. No whimsy. No wonder or sense of adventure like the originals or Phantom Menace.
>>67404024
I think that only shows your shit taste. I'm sorry.
>>67402682
So many ugly people in this movie.
>>67404024
Phantom Menace had higher highs and lower lows. The Force Awakens was utterly mediocre throughout.
>>67404024
I think that only shows your great taste.
I assume because Disney owns most of the media that is reviewing it, but I really don't understand desu.
>>67402682
Because "omg at least it wasn't like prequel xDD DAE hate Jar Jar??|
>>67402682
I just wanted it to FEEL like a star wars movie. talk shit about the prequels but they still had the star wars feeling and vibe to it regardless of the plot and other negatives
I really hope 8 and 9 will learn from this one because 7 did actually give a somewhat good base of characters and plot to work with
because its 2016
oh you don't like it?!?!?! you sad pathetic racist mysoginist!
>>67402682
Because Disney shills are highly paid
See: the whole board the past 3 days
Where did King Osric find the map?
>>67403105
>solid
That's a funny way of spelling mediocre and unoriginal.
>>67405173
>tfw no Conan the barbarian...in SPAAAAACE
https://youtu.be/RlBcDnRzmM0
say what you want but rey a cute
>>67405173
>ywn be handed a chest full of rubies
kill me
What were they thinking?
>>67405750
if she worked in my building i'm sure someone would find her attractive
>>67406002
CUTE
>>67402682
but it was better than the prequels, it was a decent stars wars movies
>>67406260
Xenomorph face with an utter chav personality no thanks tho
>>67402682
Because the world now works in: Epic or Shit
It wasn't bad enough to get demonized.
So it gets praised like the next best thing.
>>67403209
>first order elite special ops leader, disables shields in hope it saves her life; heroes kill her anyways
>>67402950
But it wasn't half of what the prequels were.
Lucasfilm must have lost more than half of their staff since 2005...
>>67406559
How is this a xenomorph?
>>67407099
>>67402957
>mediocre dribble
Your viewpoint truly is a diamond dozen.
>>67407099
You're right anon, they picked the wrong monster
>>67406260
VERY CUTE
>>67406677
(You)
>>67402682
Star Wars is mediocre as fuck.
>>67405121
Yeah this is its biggest problem. Solid film or not, it didnt feel like Star Wars at all.
>>67403467
>a new hope
Opinion invalidated.
Only brain-dead millennials call the first Star Wars film "A New Hope".
>>67407099
>>67407354
ok, gramps
>>67402682
Just watched it again, this is definitely one of those films that gets worse the more you see of it once the nostalgia factor wears off.
So lazily written and predicable. So average.
>underate retards saying that the prequels were anything but complete shit
>>67407229
kek
>>67407319
It muddied the canon quite a bit. Felt like the movie was self-consciously hedging its bets on how much it wanted to validate establish facts about the reality of the star wars universe, from the OT as well as the prequels.
>>67403209
Welcome to Star Wars. I'm glad to be back.
>>67407441
>i get all my opinions from a fat man who almost certainly has a hooker shoved in his freezer
>there are people whose lives are so empty they troll SW threads pretending the prequels were good
FOH.
>>67407441
>useless fucking faggots who post images from RLM thinking their opinions matter
>>67407491
>cannot distinguish reality from fiction
That's some severe autism m8.
TFA was a good flick to be honest
>>67407468
Don't forget the 12 gauge shotgun the villagers were packing in the intro.
Oh man I feel like i'm a child in the 1970s again!
>>67405121
The prequels didn't feel like star wars at all to me.
Why is she so perfect?
>>67407390
How did they get that particular lightsabre back? Didn't it fall into a gas giant?
>>67407599
Hard work
>>67403105
This. I just hope they do some really different shit in the next one. Rian Johnson can probably do it.
literally one of the worst movies of 2015 i've ever seen
>>67403467
The problem with that argument is that The Force Awakens is way better than A New Hope.
>>67407599
Cute. A CUTE
>>67407580
That's because everything that is not OT is not going to feel authentic, ever.
If lucas' prequel trilogy was that deranged and fucked up how could any jewy corporate knock-off ever hope to elevate itself to authentic 'star wars' quality? You might as well try making a modern sequel to the spaghetti western 'trilogy'.
>>67407612
What?
>>67407599
>That ass
Impressive.
Most impressive.
cinema
>>67402682
Don't you ever get tired of making the same thread over and over?
>>67407612
Did you see it fall into a gas giant? No? That's what I thought.
>>67407599
So whacky and random! She's just like one of us! ONE OF US, ONE OF US!
>>67407668
Anakin's old lightsabre
Luke lost it when he Vader lopped off his hand.
I think you see it fall into Bespin when Luke gets ventliated
>>67407660
So then saying something doesn't feel like Star Wars is pointless?
>>67407599
That ass is fake anon
>>67407684
sorry to disappoint
>>67407711
Shut up.
>>67407732
>>67407726
SON OF A BITCH
>>67407723
About as pointless as continuing to call new movies 'star wars movies' when the descriptor has become truly meaningless.
literally
episode
4
Question
How come the storm trooper is black?
Aren't they clones of Bobba Fet or Jango?
>>67402682
Why does it look like you printed out this image then scanned it?
>>67402682
Franchisee name and Disney's marketing department.
Money maybe be keeping them afloat now, but in a decade or two the OT will stand the test of time and Disney shit will be just as irrelevant as prequel shit.
>>67407726
Wow even I have a better ass.
>>67407778
you should watch the movie again
and this time get your head out of your fucking ass
>>67407711
>implying there is anything wrong with being funny
>>67406247
The most out of place shot in the entire franchise. There has never been a sweeping panoramic shot like this ever in a Star Wars movie.
Thank you JJ for turning Star Wars into a nature documentary.
>>67407599
because you're a tasteless /co/ babby haha
>>67407819
this
>>67407781
>that piss-poor robotic cinematography
Even this part looked better than that shite
>>67407778
>Aren't they clones of Bobba Fet or Jango?
Prequels aren't canon anymore bub.
>>67407819
>>67402682
>mfw the nigger says 'nigga please!' to the robot like he would if he were an actual nigger in our niggerverse.
I have no nigger.
>>67402682
Because you're a simpleton looking for things to be hipster about. Kill yourself, you attention deprived piece of shit.
>>67402682
Quips.
>>67407812
I'm watching it now, just makes no sense and there is no back story to explain this, in E02 they're all clones of the bounty hunter , now there's women and black storm troopers, its a valid question
>>67407849
>star tattoos on her foot
D R O P P E D
R
O
P
P
E
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Nostaliga.
>>67407781
Daisy truly was the worst part of this movie
>>67407890
No, all clones died. Hux said his soldiers were different since they're trained from birth. They were abducted.
>>67403105
This
>>67407894
maybe she likes to give footjobs?
>>67407390
Best scene in the entire movie.
The bit when the lightsaber began calling to Rey was the most accurate application of the force in the Force Awakens.
>>67406247
>why are they standing there motionlessly staring at each other?
>they just did.
>>67407890
Most clones died and were replaced with recruits.
>>67402682
6 years ago in my homeland of Britbongistan, I came across a giant model of a cigarette butt in the middle of Trafalgar Square. This was part of a campaign to remind the citizens of London to discard their cigarette butts in the trash instead of leaving them on the ground. I'd say the model cigarette was about 10 meters high and 3 around.
Why am I bringing this up? Well, I just thought I'd tell you the only time I've ever seen a bigger fag than OP.
>>67404155
This. And then it boils down to preference; do you prefer competent but uninspired, or inconsistency that is sometimes hard to watch but not without great moments? Personally, I prefer the latter, which is why I could rewatch RotS once a month and not tire of it but never want to see TFA again
>>67407706
https://youtu.be/C-DeI3ohVbY?t=7m46s
Well SOMETHING fell into bespin's atmosphere and since Luke nearly did it seemed safe to assume an inanimate object would as well.
Or do you think the force saved it so that a talentless jew could cram it into his reboot as a cheap tie to the OT?
>>67407945
>why are they standing there motionlessly staring at each other?
They are speaking with the force. They are too cool to speak with noises like bloody plebeians do.
>>67407778
>I'm retarded
>>67407968
>prequels
>great moments
>>67407939
Kylo and Han's silent scene was good, too
>>67408004
who is this semen demon?
>>67408004
that reaction pic is perfect
>>67408004
>TFA
>great moments
>>67407923
Ah OK, see that's what's annoying, the story develops through dialogue based on historical events.
A movie between FA and Rotj would be awesome
>>67408048
It's Jar Jar Binks in carbonite.
>>67408048
She's my wife, you pervert!
>>67407703
>Desert planet
>mostly flat deserts with dunes that shift on a dime
>Empire uses a 100 ton walker
Herpa durpa muh nostalgia muh design muh oil wells
>>67408139
>a sequel prequel
fuck off kike
>>67408158
McIntosh pls go be a fgt somewhere else
>>67407968
There were some great moments in the third one, literally nothing about the second one is good, and the first has podracing.
>>67408173
Calm your spongebobs.
I assumed that as the Star Destroyer was going down, shit came flying out of it - including the AT-AT.
>>67402682
>Jew Jew Abrams directing
>Female lead
>jungle fever
eternal jerk-off material for liberals
>>67402682
disney
>>67408241
>jungle fever
They are just good friends.
>>67402682
"Emperor has no clothes" syndrome.
No one wanted to offend the Emperor, or make the kingdom look like a joke.
The waifu ciclejerking over a mary sue female didn't help either.
I'm somewhat tempted to start archiving youtube videos just to chronicle the moment where most people were fooled by star wars hype.....again...
>>67408369
for now
>>67402682
Shut up hillary supporting. Immigrant loving faggot. Kys
>>67402682
>mediocre
Why do people always use this word to seem smart?
>>67408851
that is the best way to form an opinion on it
I liked a few things about TFA, i disliked a lot of things.
The thing I cannot wrap my fucking head around is this thing, Maz Kanata, what were they thinking?
>Impressive Cantina scene full of practical effects
>Lets make Maz sub-par CGI so she sticks out like a sore fucking thumb
>Lets make her 1000 years old, why? So she's older than Yoda
>Lets make her funny! Have her call Chewie her boyfriend, lol!
>Lets make her voice actress a young woman doing an old lady voice so it sounds weird, we'll get her to do a weird accent too so it sounds even more off
>She also knows many things but we won't say how or why, maybe she read the script
Easily the worst thing in the entire fucking film
explain these smug looking fuckers to me /tv/
>>67402682
Massive shilling campaign by Disney.
>>67402682
This piece of shit gets a 94% and BVS, though not nearly as good as Winter Soldier, but still more enjoyable than Avengers 2 was, gets a 39%. Fucking fagggots!
>>67407968
>not enjoying Domhnall Gleeson delivering that speech before he fires the Starkiller
>not enjoying Han yelling Ben's name
Just as good as when the doors open to reveal Maul in TPM.
>>67409523
I can't
>>67407612
FUCK JAR JAR AND THE RAT, FUCK THEM TO HELL.
>>67402739
FPBP
P
B
P
>>67408173
Jakku housed anot Imperial weapons fascility. Of course it would be protected by some of the biggest weapons in the Empire'state fleet. Are you retarded? Do you think they had the resources to design and build whole new vehicles sp soon after the battle of Endor?
>>67409452
They did try to make a puppet for Maz but I agree. Her CGI fucking great ruined the whole idea of Maz. They literally could have done ANYTHING else.
>>67402682
Meh, better than the prequels.
>>67402739
Of course, tumblr has complete control of hollywood as a whole. It tots isn't more irrelevant and less populated than even this shithole.
>>67407219
>Lebron makes his way up the court...oh no, he dropped the ball! What a mediocre dribble.
Kylo Ren is literally the greatest Star Wars villain.
Only plebs disagree.
>>67403467
Phantom Menace was also very similar. so were both trilogies in full.
>>67410303
t. tasteless pleb
>>67410321
t. guy with no argument
>people will still defend this movie
It was so fucking painfully mediocre, but of course people think you are just being an edgelord if anything with a big budget is bad.
They'll shit all over Batman v. Superman but praise this like it cums gold
>>67410448
this isn't an argument though
>>67410455
>people will still defend this movie
Why not? It had some genuinely enticing moments and characters. It might have not been the greatest movie in history, but it looked and felt like star wars and it made the prequels look like bad fanfiction in comparison. Getting someone else to do Star Wars was a good decision.
STAR WARS
>>67403144
Is he making a horror movie like ESB?
http://youtu.be/0aM8lCHinbo
>>67402950
is it really that much better than the prequels though? At least when the prequels broke the dramatic tension with stupid lines it was on accident.
>>67402682
It got praise from redditors and "le nerdy" feminist nu-male bloggers
>>67402682
Because you watched it on your laptop you fat lazy asshole!
someone just post the torrent
>>67411631
It's on the first page of every torrent site on the internet you lazy fuck.
>>67405121
what the hell is happening to this place, idealizing the prequels? Star wars was all about a dirty and lived in space universe. TFA brought that back after the prequels turned everything into a crisp, clean videogame
>>67405121
What made it not "feel" like state wars?
It sounds like you're just making a vague, insubstantial complaint because you can't offer real criticism but you want to hate it anyway
Just finished it.
Kylo Ren is just awful.
Really dragged the flick down.
>>67411859
It's way too fast and unintelligible. It looks like it's shot on an iPhone.
It doesn't have the LSO, it doesn't have the creature shop, and it doesn't have matte artists or fantastic worlds.
It needs the slowness of a long docking sequence of some kind.
https://youtu.be/lfiXAn7wMwA
Wow I just finished watching it too. I honestly thought the memes where you cunts being the usual bunch of joyless faggots but it was actually kind of shit and by all definitions, yeah Rey was a complete and utter Mary Sue. Daisy is cute I admit and I think she looks and acts the part but how her character is written is pure and utter garbage. Not only is she over powered already but in such a lazy and cheap way. Imagine the retarded shit shes going to be doing by the last part of this trilogy.
Also all the old characters sucked ass Solo wanted to be somewhere else and spinster Lela was the hammiest cunt in the whole thing.
Over all annoyed by the whole experience.
/end blog. I don't I like Star Wars 2bh
>>67411923
but kylo ren best villain
>>67407390
One of the most intense scenes in the series
>>67412035
>being the best villain of SW
Like comparing hard stools to diarrhea.
>>67411923
>>67403161
no one who has decent knowledge of film would agree with you.
>>67412087
Which is better?
>>67412038
Almost makes me wish the OT was made today rather than the 1970's.
>>67412035
>>67412103
>waahhh I hate my parents, I'm 16 and there's no Linkin Park in this galaxy
>I like to destroy things with my lightsaber
>I killed Luke's younglings LOL, I'm just like Anikan
>I let a guy who isn't even force sensitive go toe to toe with me with his lightsaber
>I let a girl who had never touched a lightsaber ever kick the shit out of me in a fight despite being trained by both Luke and xXSnokeXx
You people are unreal.
>>67407390
>baby rey has the exact same outfit as adult rey
i hate this movie
>>67412223
>the value of a character is based in how badass he is
Are you 12
>>67412109
pseuds and video game players would agree TFA is a "solid movie"
no one else
>>67407866
No it doesn't. On any level.
At all.
Stop being a fucking tryhard retarded for once.
>>67412279
Well that's the problem. He doesn't offer anything else but hating his parents for reasons that the movie didn't deign to go into.
muh dark side seduction hurr
ITT: people who didn't watch it in theaters shitting on the movie
I don't care who you are, if you didn't see star wars in theaters, you couldn't give less than any fucks about this series and you're just shitting on it just to shit on it
if you saw it in theaters, fine, shit on it. if you didn't, it's very fucking difficult to think that star wars just isn't for you
hearing some of you shit on star wars is like hearing a CoD fanboy shit on a Final Fantasy game. it means literally nothing.
>>67407390
i don't even remember that from the movie. god damn this movie was so bland and forgettable, there aren't any scenes that stand out to me that i can remember, other than solo getting wasted. what a piece of shit.
>>67407781
LMFAO
how did I miss this? THIS LOOKS LIKE A FAN MOVIE
>>67409452
>impressive cantina scene with practical effects
>milenialls don't even know the difference between a real set and a practical effects
>>67412361
You tell 'em, /v/.
>>67412340
The fact that all you can do is call him emo shows how pleb you are
>>67412361
>you can't criticize a movie if you haven't seen it on a larger screen
>>67412361
I saw it in theatres and I shat it on it then as well
the threads were pretty good
>>67412361
>/v/edditor
>posting absolute drivel
whats new?
>>67412470
to be fair, star wars is a little different. everyone and their unborn child saw that movie. anyone who didn't must really not care
>>67412279
>they made the villian a vader expy who is one of the most beloved villains of all time
>they made him a whiny hormone raging punk who cries and REEEs
vader was good because he was a cold intimidating murderer with a red lightsaber and a booming voice. no one wanted what kylo ren was
>>67412279
Kylo's a compelling sort of character, but we know nothing about his decision making other than the fact that it's 'bad'.
Why slow down the movie for a prayer scene with Darth Vader's helmet? Is he a bipolar character? Will he kill his mother next? Is he keeping Leia alive to claim some sort of noble title?
Have Leia and Rey ever spoken about the fact that Kylo is her son? It sounds almost like Rey's objective is as mundane as picking Kylo up from school or something.
What else can the writers tell us about his character, through actions?
>>67412223
That's a problem with Rey and her fucking God like abilities more than any. Like who the fuck can use a Jedi mind trick let alone even know that they exist when they just learned the force and Jedis are a thing 24 hours earlier? Rey's shitty writing effected everyone anon. Kylo is just another casualty. Han too.
Fuck JJ
>>67412424
>>67412501
>there are /v/irgins in /tv/?
>WUTTT?
being this delusional
>>67412361
>anime
>butthurt manchild wars fanboysm
to leddit with you kiddo
this movie was trash, the fan service was unbearable
>>67412592
>anime on 4chan upsets me and I feel like I must point this out
how new can you be?
>>67412548
>kylo knows Force Freeze™
>doesnt use it on rey or finn even though he used it on rey their previous encounter
>>67403105
>and a decent set up for future sequels
Can we stop giving things credit for this? I've literally never seen a game, movie, or TV show that had 'if you think this is shitty it's because we're saving up for the next installment :^)" as a selling point to critics not end up having a shitty or underwhelming sequel.
See: Mass Effect 2, Breaking Bad Season 5, Matrix Reloaded
>>67411923
Kylo ren was the only thing that barely kept it together
>>67412713
wrong again
https://youtu.be/kYvh6ErE0zo
Will anyone get in his way in a Episode VIII?
>>67412681
Mass Effect 2, Breaking Bad Season 5 and The Matrix Reloaded are all excellent and worthy of praise
The Force Awakens isn't
>>67412463
Well it's more than you've offered in his defense aside from name-calling.
I'm sure you'll tell me how crying and slashing things makes him deep and emotional, despite the fact that Anikan performed this same song and dance a decade ago.
>>67412424
fucking destroyed
>>67402682
because it was actually good
>>67412780
I hope he keeps wearing the helmet
>>67412545
>Why slow down the movie for a prayer scene with Darth Vader's helmet?
to show that he idealizes vader
>Will he kill his mother next? Is he keeping Leia alive to claim some sort of noble title?
what the fuck are you on about? this is literally not on anyone's mind, including the makers of the movie
>Have Leia and Rey ever spoken about the fact that Kylo is her son?
maybe rey has half a brain cell and knows that if Han knows, that she probably does too and it's not worth bringing up directly
like you are a legit dumbass
>>67412424
>>67412818
you tell 'em, samefag
>>67412545
>Kylo's a compelling sort of character
He's a trope that's been done to death in this day and age.
>>67412513
>defending double standard
>>67412857
Why would none of younger members of the cast mention the fact that Kylo is related to Han and Leia? It's the main plot of the movie...
Why would Rey talk about her family history to a droid and never mention it again to other human beings?
Why does Kylo join the Empire? Why does he kill Han? There's no context.
"I'm living in an idyllic landscape in complete harmony. You turn up with your stupid gormless beaver face and hand me a light saber. Why don't you fuck yourself, you little Plain Jane tryhard cuntbubble"
DON'T TAKE MY HAND I DON'T NEED ANYONE TO TAKE MY HAND I'M A TOMBOY I CAN DO THINGS AS GOOD AS BOYS
U HOVNT SEEN WHAT I SEEN I'M A MAGIC NEGRO CHARACTER DAMN BITCH THIS SOME STINKY ASS HAUNTED PUSSY
>>67413275
Please don't distort CUTE
>>67413312
>>67413275
not cool
>>67413482
Such a damning response.
https://youtu.be/QVvVNlegBD8
>>67412340
The film suggests he resented his parents for shipping him off to Uncle Luke's boarding school which he felt was abandonment. Combine that with basic insecurities about his role in the family legacy and whatever bullshit Snoke fed him and there you have the bedrock of his motivations.
>>67402682
1. Disney shills
2. black guy for diversity points
3. le fierce independent mary sue for feminist points
You're literally a racist, mysogynist if you don't like it.
>>67412545
Vader's helmet was to show the audience that Kylo's obsession with his heritage is what drove him to the First Order.
Bringing Kylo back wasn't Rey's objective. It was Han's.
>>67412370
Solo's death scene was A1 shit
Kylo Ren saying everything to make it look like he was abt to turn good but really just playing with him the entire time was a lil masterstroke of writing.
>>67413773
>Vader's helmet was to show the audience that Kylo's obsession with his heritage is what drove him to the First Order.
Masterful.
>>67407715
It falls somewhere into the city. It's not like that was just a bottomless pit with nothing but sky beneath it. Cloud City has a solid base.
Is Snoke an actual giant of is his projection just that big?
>>67414099
cloud city floats in the atmosphere of a gas giant. we see it fall out of said city into the gas giant. it didnt fall into cloud city it fell out
>>67413154
>Why does Kylo join the Empire? Why does he kill Han? There's no context.
Because he was an insecure little shit whose insecurities were exploited by Snoke, causing him to idolize Vader in order to feel more powerful and make up for his own self-loathing.
Kylo Ren actually hates being evil, and his conscience is telling him to go back to the light. But because he's equated being good with weakness, and because he feels he's come too far to turn back, he decides to murder Han hoping severing his ties to his family will make him more confident in his cause and thus more powerful. It doesn't work.
The scenes with Snoke and the Vader helmet lays all this out completely, and actually LISTEN to what Kylo Ren says on the bridge. It explains his reasoning for killing Han verbatim.
>>67414013
Star Wars has never been subtle. The scene might be a tad overly Hamlet-y but the image of Vader's melted worn-out image is a striking enough image given the context that it's justified well-enough. It was a memorable way of establishing his motivations.
>>67402682
Glib facsimile was a short lived meme but it was spot on and post watching this film my interest in the net one has floundered.
>>67414313
No it fucking didn't. Luke fell into a side shaft that was some kind of garbage chute. Cloud City itself has a solid base, you can't just fall out into the clouds
>>67414375
this is where the lightsaber and hand fell out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xu5-hq-h_4Q
where is the solid base below luke?
>>67414432
Luke fell into a chute that led into another chute, retard. The saber would have fallen straight down.
>>67402682
>>67414508
you can see it right before the scene i posted that the hand and saber fall out with him.
>the saber wouldve fallen straight down
no it wouldnt. luke got sucked into that airlock, the saber wouldve been sucked in as well.
>>67411923
shit taste, he's one of the better aspects.
>>67406247
game of star thrones
>>67402682
Enjoyable movie and doesn't bore me like Zack Snyder Shlock
>>67412223
THATS
THE
FUCKING
POINT
>>67407894
>star tattoos on her foot
Mean she have daddy issues, she has problems and mental ill.
She want a good hatefuck.
Sounds pretty good to me.
>>67414634
>he was shit on purpose
;^)
>>67408158
EWWWWWWWWWWWWW, till she cuts your dick off?
>>67414634
and the point is it makes him a villian you dont give a shit about. hes already been beaten, hes not a threat anymore, he isnt intimidating, hes a bitch.
>>67414522
C U T E
>>67414560
You're making shit up. I'm watching the scene right now, and unless George added a CGI hand in a re-release, it's not there.
>>67414747
when the chute opens and luke falls out of it you see him look down at his tumbling hand/saber
>>67414699
he supposed to be angsty and new
that's literally the point
>>67414724
he killed Han Solo if you paid attention
>>67414715
Why is it so low?
>>67414814
because TFA is a fun and harmless flick
nobody claimed it changed cinémã
>>67414724
He's going to progress alongside Rey in a dark inversion of the hero's journey. Next movie he will have a proper lightsaber and won't wear the helmet as he steps out of Darth Vader's shadow and comes into his own as a villain, mark my words
for all you people complaining that TFA is a rehash of ANH, you really love to bitch that Kylo Ren isn't like Darth Vader when that's PRECISELY the point
>>67414773
If you can say definitively that THIS is a hand and lightsaber
and it's strange that it's not visible in the chute that Luke falls into
>>67414921
>you really love to bitch that Kylo Ren isn't like Darth Vader when that's PRECISELY the point
this EXACLY. Rey literally says "you're afraid you'll never be as powerful as Darth Vader"
>>67414810
and? he cried about it right before. sure that sucked watching solo die but literally right after that he gets BTFO and gets his comeuppance. if he had just murdered han in cold blood ok that would be different but he had to be all emotional and literally stating "im being torn apart". wow what a villainous man
>>67414921
it is a rehash of anh and this time the vader is a whiny little teenager who hates happiness and butterfles. no matter what you say the fact remains he isnt a good villain, he doesnt capture you, he doesnt enthrall you, he doesnt intimidate you. at the end of the movie you hope snokes a good villain because his lackey is anakin tier shit
