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>No Pitbull link

https://youtu.be/W55f3l61AHY
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>>67370448
JUST
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>>67370448
>It'll be at 90 in no time
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did that one obsessive DCuck kill himself yet?
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IT JUST KEEPS DROPPING
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This is unreal. It can't possibly go any lower.
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>>67370561
Not even.
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Anybody else super happy at how shit the scores are? I'm a Marvel Stan but desu this is the happiest i've been in a while. Seeing DCuks suffer like this brings me joy. Can;t wait till Suicide Squad bombs just as bad and Marvel continues their dominance.
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>YFW you see which capeshit has a similar RT score
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>>67370719
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i was worried when i saw critic response for BVS and began to feel like it wasnt worth seeing

then i saw this tonight, thought it was awful then checked RT. are critics always so off base?
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CAPE KINO
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>>67370719
Am I the only person who enjoyed x-men origins? I hated days of future past, probably the only x-men film that isn't even fun. Origins is decent
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>>67370529
>not
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rcmeMxxGYw
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>>67370529
>It's going down
>It's going down
>TIMBERRRRRR!
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>>67370448
>user ratings: 120,749

I bet almost all of these shills haven't seen the movie yet.
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>>67370766
but it wasn't an awful movie senpai, that was really good, john goodman killed it
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this is just getting cruel now.
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>they honestly thought the guy who played Daredevil would make a good Batman
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>>67370817
>weebshit
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>>67370814
i liked it, but i also liked days of future past. i didnt like the one set in the 60s with kevin bacon though
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>>67370784
>"I understand I'm at a disadvantage with the internet. If I thought the result would be another 'Daredevil,' I'd be out there picketing myself. [laughs] Why would I make the movie if I didn't think it was going to be good and that I could be good in it?"
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>>67370866
it's 4chan tradition, c'mon anon.
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>>67370822
What a weird coincidence, because there are exactly 120,749 DKEKS in the world.
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>>67370894
I just wanted to be le contrarian fammy
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>>67370766
the average rating should really be looked at more than the fresh percentage.

7.4 sounds about right for a solid thriller with at least one great performance but a weak ending.
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>>67370719
Daredevil scores the best out of all of them?
Now that is hilarious.
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>>67370766
But that 10 clover-field movie was actually surprisingly pretty good. BASED GOODMAN brought a strong performance. Sorry Anon.
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>>67370766
>hating 10 Cloverfield Lane
Top cuck
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>>67370884
BIN AL-FLECK ON SOME KINDA SUICIDE WATCH
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>>67370448
>35
>35
>35
>35
>35
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IT'S NOT FAIR
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isnt the audience score what matters?

this shill critics on RT are paid to protect their studios properties but cutting down the competition and you guys are fucking pathetic

its an 8.4 on imdb, same as the force awakens
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>>67370999
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>>67371027
Nigga it was like 9.8 yesterday wasn't it.
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>>67371027
Holy shit it's already at an 8.4? It's dropping so fast.
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>>67371027

>8.4

it was like 9.8 yesterday kek
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>>67370961
I disagree. The "fresh percentage" better indicates if you're gonna enjoy the movie. How much your gonna enjoy it really doesn't matter as much as the fact that you will enjoy it.
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>>67371027
>people saying things I don't agree with
>they were paid to say that!
Both IMDB and the audience RT score are scored by everyone, and that includes people who haven't seen the movie who are just voting for the fuck of it. Meaning, THAT score has more bias than the critics.

Stop your delusions.
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>>67370529
Swing your partner round and round
End of the night ITS GOING DOWN
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>>67371027

>audience score

FOR A FUCKING MOVIE THAT ISN'T EVEN RELEASED YET
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>>67370719
>less than X-men origins and batman forever
Fucking hell
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>>67370822
It has dropped 5% with the last 2,000 votes
I don't even know if that's possible without anyone CHANGING their votes
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>>67370766
>he hates John Goodman
>John Goodman

WUT is wrong with you senpai?
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>>67371027
>8.4
>it was 9.7 a couple of hours ago
>it was 9.8 a day ago
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>>67371047
>>67371050
>>67371067
>>67371078

the imdb top 50 of all time starts at 8.5

51 is an 8.4
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>>67370621
Dayum look at those tiddies!
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A SOLID 35
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>>67371027
>grasping at straws this hard
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Holy fuck
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>>67371163
Nigga you do realize that it was at a 9.8 yesterday and is know already at a 8.4? It's going to end up in the low 7's or maybe even a high 6.
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Can it go to 30? Come on 30!
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>>67371160
because of le ebin reddi- i mean 4chan downvoting brigade :^)
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>>67371141
87% of 118,000 = 102,660 like, 15,340 dislike
82% of 120,000 = 98,400 like, 21,600 dislike

PEOPLE ARE FUCKING CHANGING THEIR VOTES

T O P
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K E K
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>>67371141
There are probably some fanboys that didn't see the movie but voted it high. Then some changed there vote to a worse score after they saw it. Not the diehards though. This means the whole score is higher than it should be.
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>>67371163
You replied to my >>67371078 post as if you actually fucking read it. It doesn't matter what the IMDB score is: ANYONE CAN VOTE FOR THAT SCORE, whether they've seen it or not.

So of course all of you delusional fucks who think a bad movie can't be a bad movie and all the world is conspiring to rain on your parade are going to gather together and vote without even seeing the film.
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So Man of Steel is better?
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>>67371205
i dont even care its just so pathetic that you guys use RT as a measurement of the quality of a film

if you it figs your agenda then you promote it, if it doesnt then you mock it

>>67371228
literally every movie on imdb starts high, what point are you even trying to make? do you actually speak like that in real life? wow
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>>67370784
JUST
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>>67371262
The score? Yes. Man of Steel has a 52%.
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SEND ME BACK TO COMIC CON 2015 BEFORE THE PAIN

WAKE ME UP
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>>67371261
primer is a 7 on imdb
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>>67371262
>Man of Steel is better

Words never uttered before today
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>>67371027
Not when it starts out high when all the blind fanboys are bombing it with 10s, then drops like a rock when people start viewing it.
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>>67371306
WAKE ME UP
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I really hope it's terrible. Because of my prejudices and the fact that I hated Man of Steel probably more than any other thing I've ever sat through in a theater means I doubt I'll like this shit
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>>67371315
...And I'm supposed to give a shit about Primer because...?
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3 5 %
5
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>>67371268
>Really guys its a good movie, RT are just meanie heads and you guys suck for listening to them
Whatever helps you sleep better at night buddy.
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>refresh
>7 more rotten reviews

CAN'T WAKE UP
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>>67371268
>criticizes how someone speaks and then proceeds to not capitalize his first word in a sentence

TOP KEK THE DKEK IS MAD
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>>67371345
CANT WAKE UP
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Solid respectable 34
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>>67371262
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>>67370448
This has to be some sort of conspiracy
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>>67371163
Anon, who are those people who are voting? The fans who saw it on the first day, or who haven't even seen it, and voted as soon as the website let them. The movie releases in a lot of countries tomorrow, and in USA, China and a bunch others on Friday. Then we'll start to see what audiences really think of the movie.
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So what will the score be once most the reviews are in
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how long will it take to ht 33%
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>>67370766
10 cloverfield lane is good, faggot
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>34%
WHAT THE HOLY FUCK
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>>67371359
All the critics liked The Force Awakens, it must be good.
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>>67371374
Fresh: 43
Rotten: 84
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>>67371420
Low 30's. I am going to say 32%.
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>>67370784
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>>67371390
Nows the chance to titty fuck him!
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>>67371420
Low: 29%
High: 49%
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>>67371268
>muh false flag agenda!
yeah cause YOU'RE totally not working from an agenda at all, are ya?

you literally think audience scores, voted by absolutely anyone who may not have even seen the film, are more reliable than actual critics who analyse movies for a living.

if anything, those 88 critics have an agenda against bad art.
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>>67371420
Not higher than 40s
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Don't worry. Armond will like it and save us from pleb critics.
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>>67371450
It is good. Good flick anyway.
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Only people like pic-related disliked it
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>>67371502
I really can't wait. He'll post his meme review, and all the drones will start praising it.
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>>67371390
Isn't Superman supposed to be immortal? like he can only die to kryptonite? how the fuck did Doomsday manage to kill him?
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>>67370961
>one great performance but a weak ending
it's really sad that if they just cut 5 minutes from the end it would have been a rather flawless movie.
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>>67370698
I'm and I feel kind bad about it. Competition between two major franchises might be good for genre. But DCfags tears are so delicious.
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WHENS THE REBOOT?
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>>67370962

omg....
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>>67371450
It was good. The Force Awakens didn't get 100%. You're part of the percent who didn't like it.

I can't help that 4chan is filled with contrarians that hate everything popular and cry 'CONSPIRACY' when unpopular things are hated on.
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>>67371529
>84 rotten
>all people like pic-related
I don't think so buckaroo!
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>>67371502
What if...

What if...

He shits on it?
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>>67371450
It's enjoyable and competently made.
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>>67371027
>audience scores

No, look at IMDB, any capeshit film has 1000s of 10/10 scores before it's even released.

Dumb teenage fanboys bomb any audience score
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>>67371529
>mondo-operatic climax
>infused with quivering, exhilarating molecules of grace
Bitch you're talking about some flick called Batman vs. Superman.
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A week ago RT was considered leddit, whats changed?
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>>67371262
That is a great feat if it's true.
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>/tv/ isn't able to have opinion on its own so it mindlessly rides the cocks of critics
Every time.
Wew guys
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original content
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>>67371539
Not really. He's died many times before.

In the movie, Doomsday impales him with his hand which has become a spike. It imaples his chest, probably impaling his heart.

Either way, he's not dead.
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>>67371502
>>67371538
>>67371589
given its obvious homoerotic undertones, he might be reviewing it here. better keep an eye out:
http://www.out.com/armond-white
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>>67370884
Please don't tell me he said this
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>>67371615
Memes
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>mf as it all disintegrates

It's glorious. It's just so goddamn glorious.
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>>67371615
>movie you like gets good reviews = RT GOOD
>movie you like gets bad reviews = RT BAD
And so on.
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>>67371628
>DC fools aren't able to have opinions that could possibly question that their movie is possibly shit
Every time.
Wew guys
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>>67370884
WARNING: OUTDATED SCREENSHOT
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>>67371615
/tv/ is Reddit, that's not surprising
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https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/4bm0h7/batman_v_superman_dawn_of_justice_movie_review/
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>>67370448
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUz096-FGYk
jeremy can predict the future, it seems
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>>67371628
as opposed to
>mindlessly rides the cock of DC

shoo, shoo, pleb.
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I thought people that liked these kind of movies didn't give a shit about critics.

Seems like critics are generally right. Even die hard fans know this deep down.
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>>67371677
Why does the RT score matter if you like the movie anyway?
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>>67371637
Super Zombie Man confirmed?
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>>67371589
Now, I don't pay him too much attention, but is he just contrarian? Or does he have specific, consistent tastes that he's outspoken about, even if they clash with the majority. Because if it's the second, someone who knows what Armond likes will be able to predict whether he likes really long movies with big, bombastic themes and convuluted plots, that build to huge cgi-filled climaxes.
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rip in pieces
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Vs. Movies are never told look at
>Freddy vs. Jason, it focuses on some lame Mystery Gang more than the people you pay to see, fighting is like not even 1/3 of the movie
>Alien Vs. Predator lmao
It's just a really dumb concept
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>34%

>34%

>34%

>34%

>34%

>34%
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>>67371735
This is literally a race to the bottom
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>>67371735
HOLY SHIT
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>>67371724
They have a funeral. But the grave starts shaking. The movie ends there.

>>67371735
WOOOO SHIT!
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>>67371758
This board is for members of the superior American race only. Return to your containment board, inbred:

>>>/int/
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>>67371723
criticism is an area for discussion where good ideas are rewarded and bad ideas discouraged, and to follow criticism is to engage in this field.

By shutting out the discussion around a film you're not being open to what other people can offer you intellectually about the film craft, which may or may not lead the world to better films in the future.
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>>67371751
Good* fuggin autocorrect
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>>67371710
Youre a pleb either way marvel and dc sre pretty much the same
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>>67371783
I'M A FUCKING AMERICAN

>34%

>34%

>34%

>34%

>34%
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It's showing 33% for me now
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>>67371815
>34%

THE RIDE NEVER ENDS

plot twist: DC fans ARE the suicide squad
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>>67371815
Continue, on then.

Also.

>33% now

HAHAHAHAHAAHHA
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>>67371735
Needs to be updated. It's at 33% now.
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>>67371708
Everyone could predict that
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33%! IT IS OFFICIALLY THE SAME GRADE AS PAUL BLART 2!
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We're down to 33% again guys. That's the lowest it's been since the beginning ascent from 0%
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>Sort by Topic Critics
>27%

Jesus Christ
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>>67371783
Americans on /int/ outnumber any other country, youd know that if you werent s ledditor
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>34%
>34%
>34%
>34%
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>>67371783
>inbred
That's rich coming from a member of a nation founded by amalgamation of migrants from different countries and ethnicities.
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>>67371723
Because your average /tv/ lurker can't have an opinion on his own and communicates through memes
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>>67371870
Oh wait, that's Paul Bart 1. Nevermind.
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Jesus fucking christ, theres no way this is movie is low 30's bad
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>>67371860
>We on some kinda suicide watch?
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>33%
>33%
>33%

>DCucks thought this "capekino" would beat Marvel
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>Leave Marvel to me
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>>67371870
We nee a Blart Edit to commemorate this.
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>people only questions review scores / websites when they go against your opinion

Gee I wonder why.
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>>67371896
>>67371904
This board is for members of the superior American race only. Return to your containment board, inbreds:

>>>/int/
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>>67371920
It isnt, Im gonna watch it either way
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>>67371904
Thay would make us less inbred dumb eurocuck
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>>67371603
The joke lies in the juxtaposition between the first and second sentence.

You're not much fun.
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>>67371735
NOOOOO

ITS AT 33 NOW AHAHAHA
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>>67370448
33% lmao holy shit
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Come on 30%!
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>>67371920
Yes it is

a jar of piss is a major plot point
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>>67371959
Americans on /int/ outnumber any other country, youd know that if you werent a ledditor
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>>67371999
Listen to this man's triples
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>>67371964
The critics are just jumping on the bandwagon, like, it's around the same rating as Paul fucking Blart
Nice rating system RT ;)
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>Capekino they said

Spoilers for any gullible goy actually excited by this fucking turd
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>>67371999
trips confirm
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33% HOLY FUCK IT KEEPS GOING DOWN
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>34%
>34%
>34%
>34%
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>>67372024

>openly admitting to not belonging here

You make it too easy, britcuck

This board is for members of the superior American race only. Return to your containment board, inbred:

>>>/int/
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>>67371999
>Paul Blart Mall Cop 2 will be a better rated movie than Batman vs Superman
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>>67372045
Nice denial.
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>>67370448
Go see what happens when you swap to just Top Critics. Go on, I'll wait.
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One outta three ain't bad
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>>67372070
it's inbreed, not inbred. he's an inbreed because he was inbred
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>>67372011
Yeah but a 32% is incompetently bad
I'll watch it anyway because reasons, but I refuse to believe it's THAT bad
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Pasta incoming:

I think they're trying to do way too much with this film. I think they're trying too hard to go head-to-head with Marvel too quickly. The MCU spent years and multiple films building up the origin stories for each of their heroes before the first major crossovers. I think the people trying to kick-start this DCCU are trying to outdo Marvel despite this being a follow-up to what is widely considered to be a below-average superhero film.
I'm not a reader of comic books, so I'm writing this from my perspective as a film-lover who's ignorant of these wider universes. This trailer had some good parts that I really liked. But it also had some troubling signs. I have a bad feeling this film will end up sprawling in so many directions that it will be too convoluted and leave the DCCU stillborn. It seems to be trying to:

- Be a sequel to Man of Steel
- Be an introduction for a DCCU Batman that has existing in-universe history/established origin story (which we haven't seen)
- Be a crossover confrontation between two of DC's major superheroes
- Be an introduction and crossover confrontation between other major DC superheroes (Wonder Woman, possibly more)
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>>67372070
But this board is literally red.dit, just look at this thread. Im not the britbong either. Also Americans outnumber any other country on /int/ youd know that if you werent a ledditor
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>scene where Lex Luthor pees into a teacup
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>>67372070
American is a nationality not a race you dumb American.

This is why no one likes America.
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>>67372121
Well, apparently Lex is much cheesier than any Batman '66 villain
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>>67372098
>27 rotten
>10 positive
>on just the first page

that's pretty sad
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33%
Do you think it'll buff out?
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>>67372113
Its likely 4 or 5/10 below average but 0/10 it raped my dog is a better clickbait score.
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>>67372150
>Paul Blart Mall Cop 2
This board is for members of the superior American race only. Return to your containment board, inbred:

>>>/int/
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>>67372147
>me lex luthor
>me play joke
>me put pee pee in your cup

totally ruined my immersion in the film
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is it ok to like Marvel now?
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>>67371539
He died a lot of times in the comics

In the movie, he's sacrificing himself by stabbing Doomsday with a kryptonite spear, but he's vulnerable because of the close proximity with the spear and DD impales him in the chest. He's not really dead tho and I think that's because he wasn't stabbed with proper kryptonite, so the molecular weakening thing they're going for in the movie is not that definitive. That's my take on it anyway.
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>32%
>32%
>32%
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Audience score is going down too, it was at 85% an hour ago
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>>67372113
Most are probably 4-5/10 which makes it negative. Metacritic is a better indicator how people really feel
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>>67372113
Average score is 5.2/10, pretty believable
Most critics just agree with each other
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How the fuck does the RT rating system work?
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>>67372147
>scene where Lex Luthor pees into a teacup
Seriously? Can't wait to see this shitfest.

Also
>chink cartoon
Pull the damn trigger already.
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>>67372236
Metacritic says 46
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>>67370448
STOP ROUTING FOR THIS THING TO FAIL, SHIT BITCH PLEB, THE DCCU WILL BE GREAT YOU FUCKING KEK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>67372228
See >>67371251
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>>67372147
You're fucking kidding me...
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I TRIED SO HARD
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>>67372243
Calculates average based on critic and regular audience reviews
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Tell me the truth guys. Does Batman really get 'lifted' by a swarm of bats while in a 'Christ on the cross' position, and does Superman actually rise from the tomb after having been dead for three days?

Is the Jesus allegory as hamhanded as I'm hearing or is it all bullshit?
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>>67372273
Exactly cause they take in account of mixed reviews.
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>>67372243
34 % = 34 out of 100 critics liked the movie, pretty easy
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>Man of Steel is better than Batman v Superman

Oh my god reality is losing its grip on reality and I can't stop enjoying it
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>>67370698
ILL BUST YOUR SKULL IN YOU FUCKING KEK!!!! EAT SHIT MARVELFAG BITCH!!!!!!!!!
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>>67372301
It's true but Superman's casket just shakes a little
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>>67372121
Jesus. Straight to the jugular.
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>>67372273
45-55 is what most people sites give it wich sounds about right, still shit, but right
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>>67372243

It's a collection of different review scores from diiferent sites/reviewers.

They're all tallied up there. The big percentage on the page is determined by the "Fresh" and "Rotten" reviews.
Anything above a 60% (from the actual reviewers) is considered "Fresh", anything below is "Rotten".

You'll notice some of the "Fresh" reviews are actually quite negative.
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>>67370822
>fanboys are stupid and rate shit highly if their favorite brand is attached to it

Gee who knew
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>>67372287
>>67372270
I fucking wish I was kidding you
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...m-marvelcuck
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>>67372302
the philosophy of RT is that even mixed reviews offer an indication as to whether it's worth seeing or not. Each critic is allowed to e-mail them and change their Fresh/Rotten rating if they think it's unjust.
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Forget the audience. I want to know what's going on at WB/DC right now.

>>67372081
What a time to be alive.
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>>67371027
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Only dubs can save DC now

If achieved, DC is saved
If singles, DC is finished
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>>67372243
Take a pool of trusted critics (NYT, AV Club, Variety, etc)
Separate each review into "liked" or "disliked"
Count how many positive reviews there are out of total reviews
That's your percentage
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HOW DO YOU FUCK UP THIS BADLY?
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST JUST KILL ZNYDER ALREADY AND GET SOMEONE ELSE
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>>67372389
>off by one
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>>67372389
So close...goodbye DC.
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>>67370698
I like marvel over Dc too, mostly because of x men, but really my man? Your life must be shit
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>this whole thread
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WE TRUSTED YOU ZACK
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>>67372054
So they basically already shot their load? No one believes he's going to stay dead, fuck he'll probably be back in the first JL movie. Who knows maybe we'll get lucky and they'll keep him dead since his character is utter shit.
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>>67372301
Yeah, and Wonder Woman gives birth to Aquaman after having a divine insemination by Trident
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>>67371251
>PEOPLE ARE FUCKING CHANGING THEIR VOTES
I KNEW IT! They were so hyped, they voted before they saw it, and then were so crushed by it, they had to CHANGE THEIR VOTES.
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>>67371027
>this shill critics on RT are paid to protect their studios properties

1) Rotten Tomatoes doesn't have critics, it just gathers reviews from other sites.

2) Rotten Tomatoes is owned by Warner Bros, so if they WERE going to shill for a side they'd be shilling BvS

3) You really should consider killing yourself for the good of our species.

4) You REALLY should consider killing yourself for the good of our species.
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>>67372147
That part was weird, but the part where it showed Lois and Clark getting ready in the bathroom together and Amy Adams was on the toilet with pooping noises and everything was just too much.
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>>67370698
Happy? Not really. I love Marvel more, but I really want good DC movies that aren't Superman or Batman. All this does is prove that we won't fucking get that.
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>>67372332
Between this, homocamp pissjoke Lex and Yakuza juggalo meth Joker I think we can definitively say that the DCMU is ruined before it even began.
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>>67372290
AND GOT SO FAAAAAR
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MOMMY MOMMY I'M GONNA PEE PEE TO KILL SUPERMAN AAHHH

fucking masterpiece of a movie
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>>67371735
Can somebody update the picture?
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>>67370719
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>>67370719
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>>67372476
BUT IN THE END
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>>67372389
If dubs, DC goes bankrupt and is bought by Disney.
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>>67372365
Wasn't it just a reference he made to the senator by labelling her tea? Like a taunt or something. We don't see him peeing in a cup. Or I don't remember it, which would be strange.

>>67372301
For Supes, yes, kinda. For Batman, it's part of a dream he had based of his trauma in a cave full of bats. It's not happening "for real" if I can say that.
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>>67372054
Where's Batman during that so epic battle? Hiding? Watching? Fighting toe to toe with gods and monsters with sheer plot shield and reasons?
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Is it honestly that bad? I mean AoU has 75% or some shit doesn't it? And it wasn't very good, how the fuck is this doing so bad?
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>>67372054
Holy shit.
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>>67370719
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Laugh all you want Memevels but your end is nigh as well.

Once Quipel War bombs you'll descent to Hell along with us.
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>>67371870
>>67371735
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>>67371450
RT doesn't rate how a good a movie is, it rates how many people enjoyed it enough to recommend it.

The fact that you have shit taste doesn't mean everyone else does.
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>>67372519
Reloading his rifle.
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>>67372054
complete shlock
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>h-hey mom, I landed a part in the new superman movie
>yeah mom it's gonna be a bunch of movies like marvel, we'll finally be able to afford your cancer medication and therapy for dad

WHAT HAVE YOU DONE ZACK
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>>67371735
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;_;
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>>67372521
imagine that for some miracle you have a gf
you call your gf to watch AoU, then you will get laid
if you call her to watch BvS she will think you're a weirdo maniac
that's how bad it is
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>>67372225
I've never read the comics desu, I've just seen the old show with George Reeves and the whole "bullets ricochet and knives bend" deal. What were they even fighting about? I kind of want to see the movie, but I dunno.
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