Ever notice how whenever Marvel has a shit movie (ironman 2 and 3, thor 2, the incredible hulk) no one cares but when DC has a mediocre movie (man of stee am batman v superman ddepending on who you ask) people lose their mind?
>>67342220
>iron man 2
>iron man 3
>thor 2
>incredible hulk
All 60%+ whether you like it or not
>batman v superman
Rotten as shit whether you like it or not.
Stay mad fuckhead.
>>67342220
They make less, so people notice more.
>>67342254
The only reason those shit movies didn't get terrible ratings is because everyone is a Marvel dickrider
Iron man 2
>disappointing shit movie
>villain who only shows up once and then again for the final fight
>Tony acting like an idiot because he thinks he's dying
Iron man 3
>shit villain made shutter by a shitty twist
>tries to be serious with PTSD themes, undoes all the seriousness with kid sidekick and the movie being set during Christmas
>stark acting like a dumbass because he almost dies
>shit fights
>gwyneth peltrow saves day
Thor movies
>boring
>badly paced
>hershlag phoning it in
>easily the most boring movies that take place in the most interesting environments
My point is that marvel does have bad movies, people do care, and people have and do talk shit about them. The difference between this and your retarded statement in the OP is that BvS is supposed to be what kick-starts the DCU into overdrive and keep marvel on its toes, the movie is doing terribly as expected by anyone with working eyeballs.
You're just a blinded DC fantom pissed that TDK trilogy was the only decent thing to come from DC movies.
imagine if Iron Man 1
the fucking movie that kickstarted an entire universe fucking sucked
batman v superman is what is supposed to start this huge universe
>>67342220
>no one cares
This is wrong, though.
>>67342220
It's almost as if Marvel has a whole laundry list of movies and DC has two
Because they're just sequels to solo movies. This was to be like The Avengers.
Because Marvel comes out with new movies every few months, not worth getting excited about. This is the first there has EVER been a llive action movie with superman and batman together, so it's a much bigger deal.
>>67342220
There's like a bajillion Marvel movies, so no one cares about the shit ones. DC are only just starting their CU, so everyone points and laughs when they fuck up.
>>67342220
Iron Man 3 was better than 2, and Thor 2 was LIGHT YEARS better than Thor 1.
The reason people get pissed off is ratio. If you have, like, a TV show where the first six episodes were good, and the 7th is shit, you won't care and will still watch the next week.
If a TV show has a shitty 2nd episode, most of us will never watch again.
>>67342505
This. DC can't even successfully launch their own cinematic universe without being laughed at.
>>67342220
All part of the plan. Hegemony requires an enemy to be vanquished, lest it be viewed as monopoly, and even the worst lawyer on earth knows that a monopoly is hard to defend in court, and even harder in the court of public opinion.
>>67342505
Sorry senpai, but Hulk kickstarted the MCU. Ironman 1 gave it its traction.
Still, Hulk got like 66%.
>>67342220
>ironman 2 and 3, thor 2, the incredible hulk
But none of those movies were shit, surely you're desperate for ammo.
How much of a crybaby do you need to be to make a thread like this, anyway? This stupid faggot is actually taking the review scores personal. Like he's got a lot riding on some capeshit movie.
>>67342220
marvel pay shills to shit post on 4chan
>>67342400
then why did the dark knight get a higher rating than any marvel movie
>le marvel conspiracy
Face it. The movie is shit. Fucking deal with it you delusional faggot.
>>67342934
>marvel pays shills to shit post on 4chan
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>>67342934
Pretty much everyone does nowdays, it's just that some firms are bigger fags than others.
>>67342934
Whatever you have to tell yourself dc cuck/ you had people shilling as hars as possible for bvs and still got btfo
To be fair, Marvel has made a bunch of movies. When they make a shit movie, it's not that devastating because they have a lot of other ones that people like. It's kind of easy to shrug off a Thor 2 when Avengers and Winter Soldier were so good.
With BvS, this is the start of their cinematic universe. This is their Avengers. This is the foundation. Having it be mediocre at best is devastating.
Well other than the ratio of movies made by the DCMU is really limited to MoS and BvS they've really pulled out the two biggest names in the industry with batman and supes and it appears they've hit their face trying to soar.
I don't know if it's because Snyder is film school student tier or it's the shitty writing, but I'd honestly be surprised if this film didn't earn atleast around 6-700 million just by name recognition alone.
>>67342400
>everyone is a Marvel dickrider
Because they make movies that everyone really enjoys.
DC doesn't.
Those movies are supposed to be dumb sequels, like fillers. BvS was supposed to be the groundbreaking experience for DC, advertised for months like a godlike experience
>>67342505
This guy's right, say what you want about that manlet Robert Downey Jr, but the success of Iron Man built the foundation for the entire universe to stand on. If some Marvel films are shit it doesn't matter anymore, because the stability is still there.
Man of Steel was a wobbly start for DC, and Batman v Superman was supposed to solidify the universe for the rest of the films, but it doesn't sound like it will achieve that goal.
>>67343143
Honestly, it's even worse than that. It's like if Iron Man didn't do very well, so then they jumped right to the Avengers (without setting up Thor, Cap, etc) and then that fails just as hard. It's so obvious that DC is just playing catch-up and they keep tripping over themselves.
>>67342220
Because DC is hinging their entire universe on these movies. If Iron Man had sucked ass, there wouldn't be an MCU.
>>67342461
I honestly liked the first Thor movie better than any of the Iron Man movies. There was a fun "fish out of water" story there. Iron Man 1, 2 and 3 is just Tony being a snarky quip dispenser for 90 percent of the runtime, and then a fight happens at the end.
>>67342220
>Iron Man 2
At worst it's still a solid popcorn flick.
Rockwell is fucking hilarious, Rourke works as a rival to Iron Man, and the climax is actually more entertaining than the first film.
If this is really the worst the MCU has to offer, then that's nothing to be ashamed of.
Meanwhile, DC movies are cringeworthy and overly dark and gritty for literally no reason.
The Dark Knight came out when? 2008? So we have gone nearly a decade without an even moderately enjoyable DC film.
Yes, the MCU is overrated and has been going downhill in quality for a while now, but even fucking Thor: The Dark World is more 're-watchable than Man of Steel.
>>67342220
MCU is well established it can afford a few flops.
Its obvious to everyone DC is trying and failing to play catch up.
Also DC is way more hyped than Marvel. No one gave a shit when Iron Man III was being released with MoS and BvS there were threads every hour about them. So when they turn out to be crap we talk about them.
>>67343260
swap.avi is more rewatchable than Man of Steel.
>>67343260
Re-watched the entire Iron Man Trilogy last weekend.
I was surprised how much better 2 is than 3.
Yeah, it's the cheesiest of the bunch, but it's a pretty fun movie. Hammer alone makes it worth the ride.
Meanwhile 3 is just a fucking mess of a movie. Literally Marvel's TDKR
>>67343302
I just don't get it. How can one company be so great and the other so incompetent? I see WB making these mistakes time and time again where they just focus on the quick cash grab. We saw it with the Hobbit series and we're seeing it now with the DCEU. Don't get me wrong Disney only really cares about money as well but they play the long game and have made the name synonymous with quality
>>67343260
The biggest problem with IM2 is that in the grand scope of the MCU, it's forgettable.
On its own merits it's harmless and actually probably one of the most "fun" films in the MCU.
I think it has the most glaring flaws in the trilogy, but when it's good, it's great. The senate hearing, Rourke's opening scene, and pretty much every moment with Rockwell comes to mind.
>>67342220
baby crying and throwing a tantrum.jpg
>>67343375
>I just don't get it. How can one company be so great and the other so incompetent?
Woah there cowboy slow down!
Marvel and the MCU is nowhere near "great".
It's just DC keeps fumbling the ball so fucking badly that in comparison Marvel look's much better.
>>67342220
Because 90% of /tv/ are Marveldrones who hate anything that threatens their precious franchise.
Snyder set out to accomplish something radically different and thought-provoking for once and he did it and for that I am happy, even though it's controversial.
DC is fucking stupid for trying to contest Marvel at their strongest, everybody is hyped for Infinity Wars and everybody will eat out any shit that Marvel throws in their way for Infinity War, it was stupid to try and compete with them at the first place.
If anything, DC should wait it out after infinity wars where people is tired of Marvel's shit
>>67342960
preach, brother
>>67342400
>Gives you a reason why these movies didn't score as badly as BvS
>Y-your just a marvel s-shill
Fuck off retard, DC clearly doesn't know what the fuck they're doing.
>>67342874
Iron man came out first...
>>67343442
>thought-provoking
Are DCfags really this retarded? At least Marveldrones can admit that the movies are just mindless entertainment. DCfags actually think there movies are some deep intelligent work of art just because it's dark.
A bad Marvel movie is simply a poorly executed movie. They still pull mostly-positive reviews, but only just so. They're not particularly memorable, but not offensively bad.
DC bad movies are dumpster fires. They're godawful and beyond redemption. The writer and director rarely understand the source material and try to compensate with violent action. They usually end up butchering the character in question, with a depiction only the most jaded have no problem with.
>>67343143
I actually agree with this
they hit a nerve with Iron Man and RDJ, and they still know how to use him, otherwise they would have not brought him back for third Capt. America. The way normies love Iron Man/RDJ, they will never love Superman/Batman/Aquaman like this. Say what you want but was either total luck that Iron Man got so successful or a brilliant move.
>>67343432
I meant Disney and WB
>>67343442
There is no real company war outside fan sites/here. To be honest, I hate Superman. Any other DC characters tend to do fine with me. I doubt anyone thinks one succeeding spells doom for the other. If they both opened up on the same day they'd have a fight. They don't though, so they do good regardless.
>>67342220
I can smell your butthurt through the internet, and it smells hilarious
Doesn't matter since Suicide Squad will be better than any and all capeshit.
>>67343497
BvS raises the question of what it means to have a godlike alien live among us and the consequences that faces. There are also various religious symbols and themes that allude to Superman being a savior like Jesus etc.
Iron Man fights aliens and that's about it.
>>67342254
there's no way batman v superman can be worse than iron man 3 and age of ultron, man of steel was better than those shits and still got lower scores
>>67342254
I haven't seen bvs but you are the delusional one if you think those movies aren't complete shit. Only a handful of capeshit movies are even decent.
>>67343640
they key difference is AoU and IM3 tried to be a comic book super hero movie...MoS was just destruction porn and the character of superman was not....super at all
>>67343622
This is b8.
Ironman fights aliens in 1 movie.
Mostly its an internal struggle of ironman fighting against himself, or his technology, which he bases his entire self upon. He deals with the "should I use this if if he can also be used for evil" since the first movie.
>>67343143
DC's first attempt was fucking Green Lantern. They had to reboot the whole thing before it even got off the ground.
>implying Ironman 3 wasn't pretty good up until the last 15 minutes
Anyway, Batman v Superman is a tentpole movie. In terms of significance it's more comparable to The Avengers than some inconsequential sequel.
>>67343670
I'm not familiar with dc comics so I'm not fucking with you, I'm genuinely curious: aren't there like 50+ alternate reality versions of superman? Why are people so pissed that the one in MoS is not the same as the one in the mainline universe?
I can tell you none of the characters in the marvel movies act like their comicbook counterparts and yet everyone is fine with it. Movie thor in particular is legitimately retarded compared to comic thor.
>>67343622
That is a hard sell for what was supposed to be a comic book crossover slugfest.
>>67343744
Superman is THE iconic superhero. Truth, Justice and the American way..until that was taken away. He saved people. He saved puppies, he was a reporter that would use his brains just as much as his strength.
MoS was his being fucking Goku flying through buildings for almost an hour, literally killing a city
that isn't superman and you don't have to read the comic to know this
>>67343744
Alternate Supermans (ones that end up villains, dictators, killers, whatever) are usually seen as 'alternate' from the start and more importantly, they usually bring something interesting to the table.
MOS/BVS Superman is 'the' Superman, and what he brings to the table is being an aloof asshole, which isn't compelling, interesting or likable.
>Man of Steel
>mediocre
>not a complete piece of shit
STOP, MY INVINCIBLE SHITPOSTER
>>67342220
Hulk was the actual start of the MCU, but it was forgettable. It pulled low ratings and Marvel relied on Ironman 1 and a gamble with recently rehabed RDJ as Ironman to pick up the slack. It worked extremely well, that it didnt matter if Thor or Cap 1 were boring, Ironman was extremely enjoyable. It carried phase 1 right to the Avengers.
Man of Steel flopped, but warner was playing Catch up to marvel and wanted to spout Justice League movies ASAP, so they went with an established character again instead of making a standalone batman character to pick up the slack of Man of Steel.
Now they have to rely on Wonder Women to devolp any traction going into justice league.
It was poor patience that ruined the DCU
>>67342874
Iron Man is the first movie in the MCU, and it's pretty good.
>>67343814
>>67343844
How is he 'the' superman if 'the' superman is the one in the mainline comics?
Nolan's batman also acted nothing like batman (he even quits) and yet that wasn't a problem.
And again, nobody in the marvel cinematic universe acts like in the comics.
I understand the argument that superman is more iconic but I've seen comics where superman grew up a communist and a nazi and I can't see why this movie should be a 1:1 replica of the mainline universe instead
>>67343927
Iron Man came out May 2, 2008. Hulk didn't come out until June later that year.
>>67343957
You right, my bad. Either way, it still stands that Marvel had a liked character to fall back on. DC didnt, and if they made Batman standalone before BVS it may have done better
>>67343937
if you aren't familiar with the DC universe there isn't even a reason to reply to you anymore about this
MoS was not Superman. MoS was Dragonball S. ended
>>67343814
mfw anon wanted to see Cavil in MoS saving cats stuck in trees, stop a volcano from erupting by putting a really big rock as a cork, and extinguish a burning building with a huff and puff like the big bad wolf.
Sounds like you're the one who has never read a comic.
>>67342220
Because when Marvel has a shit movie like say Ironman 3 and people come here and say "holy shit that was bad" Marvel fans will be like "yeah no kidding that sucked ass"
But when DC drops the ball, DC fans are like "you just don't understand it"
>>67344056
all that stuff you joked about is 10x better than destroying 30 buildings and trading punches for 50/50 booking until necksnap
>>67343474
>Gives you a reason
That's untrue though
>>67343937
>mainline comics
I don't even read comics and I know that shit isn't a thing anymore.
>>67344006
And what I am asking is why is that a problem when it comes to superman but not with Batman or any marvel character?
Are you saying that MoS isn't just as different from Superman as the dark knight trilogy was different from batman?
>>67344088
That happens in the comics and animated cartoons.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwU0QkcrNVQ
Although i agree, that they could've deleted the action from that tentacle machine thing.
>>67342220
MOS and BvS being shit is closer to the equivalent of if Iron Man 1 and The Avengers had been total turds.
Marvel built up a strong lineup of movies and have a proven track record so that even when a lesser movie drops, it's an exception not the standard.
DC keep shitting the bed on their establishing movies. Their track record is fucking trash. Their only good movies are Nolan Batman, and their other bullshit doesn't get to ride their coattails because everybody knows Nolan's movies are isolated and not tentpoles.
>>67342838
My opinion? DC should say fuck it and keep making standalone elseworld-ish stories like TDK or film the classics like Watchmen, both while hiring proven visionary directors and giving them as much creative freedom in their own medium as they can have. Marvel is way ahead at that point, trying to catch up is like running from a sniper - you'll just die tired.
>>67343927
>relying on wonder woman
Dead in the water. They should pull the plug while they can.
they should make a fun movie like this show with lots of qts
>>67342934
well where the fuck is my money!
>>67344779
god yes
>>67343260
>>67343388
The only problem with IM2 is the shitty climax.
The scene of IM and War Machine together is good, but then the villain appears and they kill him in like 5 seconds.
There's almost no final fight.
Would have been quite good if there was an actual battle like in IM1.
>>67342461
>and puts Marvel on its toes
That is not, nor ever will be their intention. There is now Marvel vs DC. It's just in your head.
>>67344312
Actually their other good movies were Batman 1989 and SUperman 1978.
But yeah. Either Nolan, or too old.
>>67346444
Heh. Trips for truth.
>>67342220
its about the ratio, and DC is mostly shit right now
>>67343744
Comic Thor is legitimately as dumb as a bag of hammers.
>>67346608
Not always. Depends on who is writing him at the time.
He has been king of Asgard for a time so he's far from the hot idiot that he is in the movies.
