I think we can all agree it was bad. Maybe not AS BAD as the prequels, but definitely an average money making type of film. It exists to celebrate itself. It's completely devoid of humanity, and only real purpose, other than money, is to be a vehicle for leftist politics. I just wanted to watch a Star Wars film, again.
>>67331218
It's an okay marvel movie
>>67331218
It was worse than the prequels.
>>67331261
Fuck you Marvel movies are great.
>>67331333
Iron man, cap 2, ant man and maybe GOTG are the only good ones
The rest are okay, except for iron man 3 and Thor 2 which are trash
Its my second favorite Star Wars film.
>actually expects anything to ever reach OT tier levels of goodness
>thinks it was worse PT
>wastes time thinking about politics surrounding disney NOT what was in the movie
i'm so glad i can just enjoy a movie for what it is and go on about my life.
>>67333541
TFA was better than ROTJ.
I want you prequel kiddies to go back to /co/
>>67331218
So OT > TFA > PT
V > IV > VII > VI > III > I > II
Deal with it.
>>67333654
This is correct.
It's my third favourite SW flick
I love Marvel/Disney and hate anything DC/Warners
>>67331218
>I think we can all agree it was bad.
Fuck off DC shill
>>67331218
>a vehicle for leftist politics
Oh wow people actually think this.
>fucking mary sue is winning
>>67333541
>i'm so glad i can just enjoy a movie for what it is and go on about my life.
Your posts tone says otherwise
>>67333654
Objectively correct non contrarian ranks
>>67333692
Watches a Star Wars cartoon for kids for the characters.
Daisy a cute
>>67333654
I would say the same.
Also a reminder that anyone saying the prequels are anything other than shit is literally an autist.
>>67333654
Why are the movies where sheev physically appears bad?
>>67333589
not really.
Sure we can agree it was bad, but if we do that we must also agree that IV-VI were also all bad
>>67333746
>>67333798
He was the only good part of them.
>>67333709
posting once in a thread about TFA doesn't mean shit in the grand scheme of things. you're just lucky i forgot to close this tab. enjoy your shit posting.
>>67333798
The luke/vader/sheev stuff is 10/10 but the rest of the movie is very fawed, pacing issue on endor, ewoks made solely to appeal to small children, Han is a useless character because he was spared from death at the last second, etc
Better than ep 1 and 2 not better than 3,4,5, or 6.
>>67333857
Don't get me wrong, I like him, but he's the only good part about those movies.
>>67333880
Yeah
No, it was a 7/10. It wasn't dogshit like some of you claim it was and it blows the fuck out of the first two prequels.
5>7=4>6>>> BvS>>>>1>3>2
>>67333654
V > IV > VI > III > VII > II > I
>>67333793
>Also a reminder that anyone saying the prequels are anything other than shit is literally an autist.
Camille Paglia, Richard Brody and Slavoj Žižek are autists now?
>>67331218
5>4>6>3>1=7>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>2
>>67334445
They certainly have bad taste in movies.
>>67334445
>Camille Paglia, Richard Brody and Slavoj Žižek are autists now?
Yeah. They are. An autistic dyke, an autistic elderly numale, and an autistic Slav cretin are really the examples you want to go with?
>>67333654
V>IV>VI=VII>III>1>holiday special >2
>>67334610
Yeah, because Mike Stoklasa is much more credible than them, right?
>>67334450
patrician imo
>>67334445
>Camille Paglia, Richard Brody and Slavoj Žižek are autists now?
>muh appeal to authority
>>67334719
What the fuck does he have anything to do with this? Are you one of those retards that actually believe people didn't hate those movies before that dumb review came out? Get a fucking grip.
VI > V > I > III > IV > VII > II
I had not seen any Star Wars movies until last year.
>>67334750
He was the one who brought up le autist strawman, not me.
>>67331218
It was basically a two and a half hour movie trailer. It sets up nothing new for the Star Wars universe while presenting a shit on of questions that will only be answered (hopefully) in another movie.
None of the magic was there. There was no world building or adding to the lore. It was a very watered down version of ANH. It was in every way worse than the prequels.
>>67331333
>It was worse than the prequels.
trips confirm truth
>>67334790
I'm just saying that evaluating the merit of a movie based on who likes it is stupid.
>>67333589
>>67333654
>TFA better than RotJ
Eh. No.
>>67333654
lmao 2 is worlds better than 3 you dumb faggot
>>67333852
m-m-moar????
>>67334968
Oh yes.
>>67331218
It was garbage. That said Boyega wasn't as bad as I thought he would be, almost charismatic, but Ridley was awful.
Terrible, lazy writing, rehashed ideas, unoriginal, boring new characters, weak score.
>>67331218
>I think we can all agree
Where do you think we are?
>>67335139
>MUH LE YODA LIGHTSABER FIGHT
I remember when I was eight too.
>>67335411
Yoda fought in both movies, dumb fuck. What's your point?
>>67335510
The third one he fought against Sheev. That automatically makes it better.
>>67335686
Fair enough.
>>67335379
a /tv/ post hasn't made me laugh in a loooong time. Thank you.
>>67335742
post more teethfu pls
>>67335894
>>67335792
No problem.
>>67333720
>VII>VI
>non contrarian
>>67336022
Not him but 6 is overrated. It just gets lumped in with the other originals because those were top tier.
It's not bad, it just didn't take enough risks. It just just borrowed or rehashed a bunch of shit from the original trilogy and didn't add enough new, interesting ideas. They played it too safe. They needed to try more new things, but obviously not in the way they prequels did it where every new idea was completely idiotic and seemed like Lucas thought it up while taking a shit.
>>67331218
The Disney execs were terrified of making another bad Star Wars movie that they went with what worked, i.e. rehashing A New Hope.
Which isn't necessarily a bad thing. They got their good reviews and the box office bonanza. The real test is if they can come up with good, totally original storylines for the next films.
>>67336199
Despite the pornstar tattoos, I'd have consensual sexual intercourse with her with the intention of procreation, if you know what I mean.
>>67331218
I liked it more than the prequels, except the last one... the first 2 are barely watchable except for Dooku and somewhat Kenobi. The director on TFA here played safe, did his homework and delivered a fun film and kept my attention... yes it's recycled, yes it feels like an intro, yes it's lady superhero saves the day. It's still better for me than the first 2 prequels.
Hating the prequels = Reddit
Appreciating the prequels = 4chan
Thinking The Force Awakens is a real Star Wars movie = Facebook
>>67336199
>didn't take risks
>killing Han solo
>Luke failed at restoring the Jedi and is in the movie 30 seconds
>Making the villain kind of a loser
I think it took plenty risk
>>67333742
But Star Wars is for children
>>67336349
Then I'm happy to be a facebook using normie redditor.
But what you posted was bullshit so fuck you.
>>67333654
correct
>>67333852
What? I didn't realize her ass was that huge
>>67336916
it's not
>>67336199
>tattoos i regret getting when i was 16
>>67336916
>tfw having to explain to permies how women and dresses work
She is standing with one leg behind the other in a tight dress giving the ILLUSION that her ass is bigger than it is. They're illusions, Anon.
>>67336996
It doesn't look that bad in that picture, the bathing suit doesn't do any good for her.
But she's probably wearing pads in that pic either way.
>>67337208
It's not pads you permavirgin dildos, read this >>67337175 then look at the pictures again.
>don't go to cinema
>Illegally download bluray rip
>Post shit opinions nobody cares about anymore months later
You pirates make me sick.
>>67336916
>>67336996
>>67337175
>>67337208
>>67337342
>liking ass
>>67337383
>he's a tits guy
Stick to your Magicians threads
>>67337383
At what point did I say that? Not that I don't, I like all of the woman, but I'm just trying to point out how fucking retarded you are.
>>67335139
3 is the objective best film of the prequels. There is no way you can watch them critically and come to any other conclusion,
>>67336294
well said lad
>>67336199
so now, to have actresses actually feminine, you have to watch them during those kind of public events, nothing in comparison to the ugly dirty sexless mary sue
>>67337431
who's that babe? post more
no, it's not bad. it's not great, but lacking in humanity isn't a criticism that makes any sense. there are plenty of good character moments. the chemistry between the actors is what it does best
the new Death Star stuff is stupid, but if it doesn't eat a lot of plot time either. it might as well just be some random base on an ice planet
>>67337342
>>67337175
shut the fuck up you moron
she's obviously wearing pads, stupid fuck
>>67337175
>She is standing with one leg behind the other in a tight dress giving the ILLUSION that her ass is bigger than it is.
That doesn't make any sense
lmao @ this dipshit
Now that the dust has really truly settled...
>Opening starts fine until cringey dialogue of old man and Kylo.
>Tatooine 2.0
>In the same scene Poe/Finn pronounce Jakku differently.Cringe
>"Stop taking my hand" Stronk womym although Finn saves her life from an air strike
>More cringe dialogue while running and yelling"QUAD JUMPA NEED A PILOT GOT ONE YOU?" Even Lucas didn't write this bad
>Deus Ex Millenium Falcon right where it needs to be with ramp open come inside yall
>3 steps on to the Falcon for the first time tells Finn exactly where the guns are at
>Masters flying Falcon way too easily(force sensitivity i guess?)
>Flying through Star Destroyer very much Lando's Death Star 2 run. J.J.nostalgia masturbation
>Something goes wrong with Falcon. Rey is like look how good i am i can fix anything while Finn is like I am man i don't know how fix things.
>BB8 tries to talk to Finn"I don't speaks dat. DROID PLEASE!!"racist cringe dialogue
>"Got a girlfriend? nunya business" stronk
>Kylo throws a temper tantrum that i might have been intimidated by if not for the fact his helmet looks like Vader's helmet if it had been circumcised
>>67335230
Nope. RotJ has a myriad of problems, but it's still more interesting than TFA.
>>67337610
>Han in trouble as usual which means all character development from OT out the spacelock
>AHN SOLO KANJICLUB unintelligble scottish
>Ochu from Final Fantasy
>Rey knows more about Han's ship than him
>Death Star3.0 BIGGER BADDER AND BETTER just became fully operational
>Supreme Leader Snoke(does he come with sour cream?) Is he a giant?
>Kylo is Han's son what a twist!
>Lands on Yavin 2.0
>Here's a gun"I can handle mahself" Guns > staves dumbass
>Yoda2.0..Chewie's fucktoy
>Luke's old saber just happens to be there.
>DS3.0 warp laser beam that breaks off into 5 seperate beams at the right time to destroy a planet system that just happens to be visible from Not Yavin so the heroes can see. Also have no investment in any of the planets that just got BTFO
>How'd you get Luke's saber? Anothertime.exe
>Stormie's still miss their shot. At least Rey takes 2 shots before nailing trained troopers with one hand no problem
>"I like this thing" Like Han never shot Chewie's bow in all those years...
>TR8R just gonna drop my shield and blaster in the middle of a war zone to break out my stun gun(pretty based) until he got shot oops.
>Kylo shows great skill deflecting lasers. Rey clearly out of her league gets forced stunned and knocked unconscious.
>C3P0 commie arm why?
>Kylo stares at Rey. Takes mask off PUT IT BACK ON PUT IT BACK ON!
>>67336916
She wears butt pads, she's flat both front and back.
>>67336288
I don't follow.
>>67337688
cont.
>"I can take whatever I want."(Mr.Rapeypants)
>Kylo reads her mind, then in a scene out of Order of the Phoenix Rey reads Snape's, I mean Kylo's mind even though it's been established Rey shouldn't be able to do shit against him at this point
>Rey uses le force mind trick but its okay cuz she had to try it a few times within the same minute to get it to work....
>Time to blow up the Death Star again"There's always a way to blow these things up." lol
>Kylo senses Han, Oh another ANH reference
>Chrometrooper made to look like a bitch. Trashtrooper more like it
>Kylo's name is Ben. Stop taking the mask off dude.
>Daddy/son bonding. Help me do this. Thank you. So polite much manners.
>Wounded, you think his rage would make him go after Chewie who shot him but no let's go to finn/rey for a saber duel
>Injured, walking slowly, somehow gets in front of our duo
>TRAITOOOR like he cares about one disposable sanitation trooper
>Finn somehow holds his own in a duel with Kylo(oh but he's injured..yah right he's doing twirls and shit he's not that injured apparently)
>Rey takes saber, Kylo can easily use the force on her but no let's have a proper saber duel instead
>Trench scene 2.0
>30 seconds to fire, whew glad we blew up that one part in time eh chaps?
>"you need a teacher, i can show you the ways of the force"(all nerdy nasally sounding)
>Rey closes her eyes cuz she dont need no man to teach her how to concentrate on the force. She just uploads sweetsaberskills.exe from the matrix
>Somehow glancing blows Kylo's face instead of outright cutting it in half
>Moses parts the earth between them perfectly
>Planet Vulcan blowing up
>Leia gonna hug a girl she just met when Chewie the one who needs it more
>Leia sends this girl she just met to find her brother and not herself leading up to a 50 second awkward staredown between UNJUST and stronk womyn ending in a michael bay camera spin.
Why the fuck did I watch this shit?
>>67337688
>C3P0 commie arm why?
>yfw in the ending of VIII, while not known to the main characters, the movie drops the massive plot twist on us, that red armed C-3PO isn't actually C-3PO. The red arm is not the spare part, everything else is. It was a force sensitive Sith Robot all along
>>67337377
I didn't paid for this movie, but i watched it, let me get something clear, i did not took the ticket worth value from my bank account and transfered it to the makers of this movie yet i managed to see it , here is the reason: not a single cent of my hard earned right wing money was used to support this industry and this big expensive investiment to make this title a reality on screen, lemme tell you why: the money that is in my pocket, its currently 20 bucks could have paid me to watch the movie in the theaters legally as it was intended yet it did not worked that way, i held it and it still here, i am looking at it and the movie is running on the monitor and i think of all the movies that are avaliable at the theaters also the upcoming ones and i don't feel like paying for any of them.
Oh yeah also the movie is shit.
>>67331218
this is not a star wars movie because the film technique is nothing like a soap opera flick.
How could J.J over look that one simple detail that star wars is technically a soap opera.
>>67337610
You missed the actual first problem part.
>Luke skywalker going into hiding
Luke would of never abandoned his friends and not even give any hints to them about his location even to his own sister.
>>67337827
Would iit have been better if we didn't see kylo's face at all in the movie? Would of made for a better twist when we see how he really seems like an insecure teenager after we took better time to realize he matches the character he is and how he acts.
>>67331218
> but definitely an average money making type of film.
Not being bad is bad. Ok.
> It exists to celebrate itself.
Seventh sequel in a franchise. Skyfall was a celebration of the Bond mythos and it's perhaps the greatest Bond film ever maid. This criticism means nothing.
> It's completely devoid of humanity
According to an autist on /tv/. It's noted for human characters and propulsive script that was almost entirely driven by the human decisions made by flawed characters.
>and only real purpose, other than money, is to be a vehicle for leftist politics.
Oh so you're just saying buzzwords to excuse being a butthurt conservative SJW who got triggered by a movie with a female protagonist and a second-protagonist black dude. Gotcha.
> just wanted to watch a Star Wars film, again.
You did. Problem is in reality you wanted reasons to be a contrarian on the internet and you went into the movie seeking out confirmation bias. Problem is you're an edgy teen who feels compelled to rebel against what is popular and good, to prove some point you'll never understand. Problem is you're a tryhard buzzkill dipshit and you'll miss out on everything cool and die angry.
I tried watching this today and couldn't get through it. Fucking boring. No charm or sense of what makes Star Wars what it is. I'm sure kids ate it up, but the thought of grown adults blowing their loads over it makes me sad for humanity.
>>67331218
why does rey have no eyes
ITT banal contrarianism.
.
>>67340085
>I'm 12, the post
You have to go back.
>>67340085
The irony, is that "Only a Sith deals in absolutes." is an absolute the same way "This thread is clearly full of nothing but contrarians" is a contrarian statement.
Lucas's pottery has ascended.
>>67331439
>2016
>Iron Man 3 is trash
I thought this meme died long ago
>>67339940
>>67331218
It wasn't bad at all.
It was hugely derivative of the OT but that doesn't make it bad.
>is to be a vehicle for leftist politics
And there it is.
>>67333541
Is your life shitposting for jj abrams? No wonder you think TFA was good
>>67337688
>Han in trouble as usual which means all character development from OT out the spacelock
Almost like the movie both implicitly and explicitly explained exactly what Han had been up to in the last 30 years. Got married, settled down, raised a kid, kid turned rotten, kid fucked everything up, everyone is pissed, wife looks a yeti, fuck it mid-life space pirating it is.
>Rey knows more about Han's ship than him
Almost like her boss owned it and she had worked on it or something. Almost like she makes a living doing mechanical engineering and he makes a living smuggling things in space.
>Death Star3.0 BIGGER BADDER AND BETTER just became fully operational
Star Wars movie features a giant planet-sized weapon. That makes 5 out of 7 (not counting the droid control donut in TPM that serves the same plot purpose as ANH, RotJ, and TFA)
>Kylo is Han's son what a twist!
A soap opera in space known for it's family-ties twists features another antagonistic father-son relationship?!?!
>Here's a gun"I can handle mahself" Guns > staves dumbass
See also: Princess Leia, crackshot space royalty
>Yoda2.0..Chewie's fucktoy
Tiny wise space aliens in a Star Wars movie?!?!?
>Luke's old saber just happens to be there.
Space magic.
>Also have no investment in any of the planets that just got BTFO
Didn't have any investment in Leia's planet, but we still understood that it was a dick thing to blow it up. We actually saw more of the victims in TFA than ANH.
>"I like this thing" Like Han never shot Chewie's bow in all those years...
Maybe he hadn't. Maybe it'd been a while and he was restating how impressed he was. Maybe this is an autistic thing to complain about.
>TR8R just gonna drop my shield and blaster in the middle of a war zone to break out my stun gun(pretty based) until he got shot oops.
Almost like people letting their pride and emotions affect their judgement to their detriment is a recurring motif.
tfw watching it http://ducking.xyz/pond/
>>67331218
I don't give a fuck about /pol/-tier shit. The movie was OKAY. Not bad. Not good.
It was better than all the prequels and their toilet humor. It doesn't hold a candle to 5 or 4. 6 is a bit better than it.
Positive things:
Humor done correctly.
Good fighting scenes (not overly CGI and flashy)
Likeable main characters (again, not /pol/)
Decent plot.
Bad:
Terrible acting by Jew Jew and Poe
A bit too much unnecessary humor
Repetitive story
>>67340427
>humor done correctly
>>67340449
Yes. It wasn't cringe, it actually made you laugh and didn't detract from the story.
It's a family film made by Disney, it was going to have humor in it obviously. But it was the sort of humor the whole family could laugh at. Not just the little kids while the parents groan to themselves.
v>iv>vii>vi>UNWATCHABLE
>>67340270
>>67337688
>Rey clearly out of her league gets forced stunned and knocked unconscious.
Almost like the circumstances had changed for both those characters between their first encounter and final battle. Almost like that's how adventure story arcs work.
>C3P0 commie arm why?
A lot happens in 30 years.
>>67337827
>Kylo reads her mind, then in a scene out of Order of the Phoenix Rey reads Snape's, I mean Kylo's mind even though it's been established Rey shouldn't be able to do shit against him at this point
Almost like heroes and fantasy adventure movies are the protagonists because they are extraordinary or something.
>Kylo senses Han, Oh another ANH reference
More of an Empire and Jedi reference really. Pretty thoroughly established in the OT that force-users can sense their family.
>Wounded, you think his rage would make him go after Chewie who shot him but no let's go to finn/rey for a saber duel
Go fight the angry yeti or persue the powerful mysterious Jedi and the traitor, both of whom you let escape at different times and are super butthurt about.
>TRAITOOOR like he cares about one disposable sanitation trooper
People care about and villify traitors in all cultures.
>Trench scene 2.0
Ignoring the trench scenes in essentially every other Star Wars movie.
>Rey closes her eyes cuz she dont need no man to teach her how to concentrate on the force. She just uploads sweetsaberskills.exe from the matrix
Luke closes his eyes and turns of targeting cuz he don't need no automated assistance and uses the force to make a photon torpedo turn 90 degrees.
>Somehow glancing blows Kylo's face instead of outright cutting it in half
Almost like that's the definition of a glancing blow.
>Leia gonna hug a girl she just met when Chewie the one who needs it more
Girl that is almost certainly her neice is closer than the gorilla dog that she never really liked.
>Why the fuck did I watch this shit?
So you could shitpost about it
>tfw you realise the previous SW movies are shit and this is the only good one
Take off the nostalgia goggles and fanboy underpants and watch them again.
>>67340506
good humor is killing jar jar silently in the backround
I wish Rey was pretty though. Leia was gorgeous, like a full woman. When I see Rey, I only think of a girl, and it kinda detracts from the gravity of Star Wars.
Pic related, pure beauty
>>67340690
>Leia was gorgeous, like a full woman.
Almost like Leia was a seductive princess for the boyish hero to save.
>When I see Rey, I only think of a girl, and it kinda detracts from the gravity of Star Wars.
When you see Luke in ANH, you only think of a boy, which kind of compounds the gravity of his hero's journey. Kind of the entire point of all three trilogies is that an extraordinary force is destroyed by a childish hero in over their head.
King Arthur and Excalibur, Neo, Frodo, Luke, Anakin, those fag kids in the jesus closet series, almost every fantasy protagonist ever starts out as a childish and naive character.
You're basically saying that you didn't like that the childish female protagonist wasn't there for you to want to fuck.
>>67340987
No, what I'm saying is that the childish female protagonist WAS there for me to NOT want to fuck.
Drink some water, hothead :^)
>>67340690
Leia was not drop dead gorgeous. I'd also like to point out that Carrie Fisher was 18/19 in SW 1, whereas Daisey is 22. You think Carrie looks older because
1. The poor quality of film / camera shows much less detail than modern ones
2. You saw SWfor the first time when you were young enough that a 18 year old girl looked fully grown to you
3. You still have that image of Carrie today due to 2, even though you're older than Carrie was in SW
4. You're older than Daisey, so even though it's probably not by much, the SU jective perception has caused her to look like a child to you
>>67341109
>Leis was not drop dead gorgeous
What are you, gay?
>>67340537
>>67340270
Trying to defend the movie this hard. I get it. We all wanted a great Star Wars movie but to ignore all it's flaws is...."then you are lost!!!!"
>>67340170
You're right, trash is too generous
>>67331333
NOTHING is worse than the prequels and the practical effects make TFA superior to any Marvel shit by default
>>67340690
>Leia was gorgeous
No she wasn't, her face was mediocre and blobby as fuck.
>>67341639
>blobby
My nigga im sure if you looked in a mirror you would feel the same about yourself
>>67341239
If you think Leia is the prettiest person in pic related, then you're a flaming queer.
>>67341567
>A movie can be better than others by default, based on the effects used
Wat
>>67338702
This. I literally lol'ed at how much of a non-threatening normie Kylo looked.
I imagined an ugly, lanky teenager with bad acne getting bullied in Jedi School, then crying and listening to the equivalent of My Chemical Romance while writing bad poetry about hating the Jedis and vowing to kill them.
>>67341685
anon...
>>67338313
No, soap operas are put on television for tween girls.
Star Wars was a space opera, there's a difference. In Star Wars, we don't pause to linger as Luke slips into the shower with Mara Jade.
Lucas literally took every opportunity to expand his canvas, and maintain a master shot throughout a feature length film. They feel like gigantic movies for that reason alone. A soap opera pauses to focus on character's breathing heavily....
>>67340690
This and sex slave Leia are literally the only time in the franchise when she didn't look ugly.
>>67331218
For me it was worse than the prequels for the sole reason that it really brought nothing new to the table. Everything was a ripoff of what came before.
Plus the fact it's shat all over the resolution we got with return of the Jedi.
Sure it was better shot and all that, but the two most important things about it (the story and creativity) were lacking so it was just fucking boring.
>>67341716
Face it anon, the only reason she's considered beautiful is because she has a vagina.
>>67341685
Ford is a handsome devil, but Leia has my heart.
>>67341685
Everyone in that pic wanted to bang her at one point, so she's doing something
I liked it...
>>67341739
looked great in the award ceremony dress
>>67341863
>wanted to bang
pretty certain they did
>>67341834
>implying Hamill isn't objectively the best looking person there
>>67341884
Nah, she looked fat.
>>67341834
>Ford
>not Hamill
>>67341863
>being a female with a good body
literally all it takes
>>67341945
a little baby fat is sexy
coked out skeleton in VI was worse
>>67341903
>Hamill
>Person
What heresy is this?
How dare you speak such of a supreme being?!
>>67341903
>>67341950
Not saying he's bad looking, but Han is the scoundrel.
>>67341982
>>>/r9k/
>>67341991
Nah m8, she actually looked pretty in VI because she lost all the blob on her face.
>>67342042
>but Han is the scoundrel.
And? He's by no means pretty.
>>67336199
>didn't add enough new, interesting ideas
Duh. It's a 100% commercial product.
>>67341991
This guy gets it
>>67342073
I want a man, not a pretty boy.
>>67331218
Yeah it was bad, good job op
Daily reminder
Clone Wars > Galactic Civil War >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Whatever is it being fought in TFA
>>67342121
nigga you gay
>>67341410
I agree that there are flaws. I'm glad there are the flaws that there are. To me the objective flaws are:
>They cut the scene that explained what exactly was going on between the Republic, the Resistance, and The New Order.
>They only provided 2 brief instances of visual exposition to imply why Rey was a good pilot, and it's only left implied by association that Rey was familiar with the Falcon because she was a mechanic for the person that owned it.
>The Starkiller base shouldn't have been destroyed. It was one thing having another super-weapon planet, but it would have been more compelling to have it survive, doubling down on the Empire pottery.
>They cut the sequence explaining why Luke's lightsaber found its way to that bar.
>They ended the film with an awkward helicopter shot instead of a sweeping static wideshot.
>Han Solo's monster shenanigans is seemingly all going to be a dead end, since Kanjiclub can't collect a debt from a dead man. But given the pottery of Kanjiclub with Jabba, they'll likely play a significant part in the future.
>Chewie's fur was too well done.
All that said, I responded to the "flaws" that weren't really a problem for anyone that isn't desperately grasping at autism straws on the internet. Most of those things make the film better.
>>67341101
>No, what I'm saying is that the childish female protagonist WAS there for me to NOT want to fuck.
So did you dislike the character of Luke because you did NOT want to fuck that whiney teenage boy? Or did you want to fuck that whiney teenage boy? Did you want to fuck Frodo too?
>>67331333
Plebbit pls go
>>67342213
I'd fuck Luke don't get me wrong, but Leia is the priority
>>67342234
Why would I fuck Frodo? That's gay. I want Leia because she's a qt space princess.
>>67333654
V>IV>III>VI>II>VII>I
>>67342377
Perfect
>>67342213
>that failed wink
everytime
>>67336916
It isn't. High heels fuck up posture and force women to stick their asses out a little.
Some of the worst shit I've ever seen.
Eps 1, 2, and 3 were bad, but they were ORIGINAL bad and you could laugh at them.
Ep VII was so disgustingly mediocre and rehashed that I have no desire to ever watch it again.
>>67342377
>do I fit in yet
IV>V>VI>III>II>I>VII
Patrician's opinionIt's like poetry
>>67342320
>Why would I fuck Frodo? That's gay.
Why would you fuck any fantasy-adventure protagonist? That's not what they're there for.
>I want Leia because she's a qt space princess.
That's exactly why she was there. In ANH you are watching Luke essentially do the plot of The Wizard of Oz, but there's no reveal at the end that it was all a dream. In the first act he's introduced with all these things he's grumpy about. He wants to fight in the Star War, he wants to be a space pilot, there's no viable pussy in his neighborhood, he yearns for adventure. The rest of the story shows all of those things play out perfectly for him. He rescues the qt space princess and destroys the space Hidden Fortress using his seemingly coincidental space magic powers. She was part of his (and the audience he was a surrogate for's) fantasy.
But TFA isn't ANH. Both movies have the same framework but everything else is it's own. Nobody wants to see the whiny tryhard spoiled poindexter score a radical babe. That shits been done. In 1977. And the rest of the 80's.
Instead this time the protagonist is someone who didn't have Luke's comfy childhood, and doesn't have Luke's angsty 70's comedy teen sex drive.
This time the protagonist's motivations are simpler. Desire for a family. Rey spent her apparent whole life on her own, waiting for the family that abandoned her. Her arc in TFA is about her choosing to embrace her new, adopted family, and take agency in the narrative as she decides to quit waiting around and seek out her future. It's a pretty solid arc to represent the current generation, just like ANH pandered to the mindset of the baby boomers.
>>67342377
>>67342584
V>IV>VII>VI>III>I>II
C A N O N
A
N
O
N
just want to post about that anon who was in a tfa thread the other day saying he hoped the br rip drops when bvs comes out, fuckin' a you called it!
>>67342679
TFA really was not good, it was incredibly tame and unoriginal, felt like any other action space movie these days
>>67342679
>and doesn't have Luke's angsty 70's comedy teen sex drive.
Luke had more motives than just wanting to bang Leia, especially when you consider that he literally never made any moves on her. By ESB she's an afterthought.
>>67342876
>TFA really was not good, it was incredibly tame and unoriginal,
By what standard? It seems either the complaints on this thread are that it was "unoriginal" or roundabout complaints about how it isn't exactly like ANH. Neither Luke nor Anakin had Rey's character arc. Kylo is an overwhelmingly more compelling overarching villain than Sheev was in the PT, and he's coming out the gate stronger than Vader was after ANH. In ANH Vader was more or less just the bond-villain henchman to a monkey-eyed woman we see for 30 seconds. Other than being a ruthless dick in a goofy space suit, he didn't have much of a character at all until Empire.
>felt like any other action space movie these days
Oh yeah that endless plethora of adventure-fantasy space movies we are endlessly bombarded with. Or are you talking about the 2 Star Trek movies that were turned into Star Wars movies?
>it feels like those other things that ripped off the thing it is a sequel to
>>67342887
>Luke had more motives than just wanting to bang Leia
Yeah he generically wanted Adventure. Author/audience-surrogate George Lucas Skywalker wants a flash gordon adventure, gets one through an extraordinary set of circumstances.
>especially when you consider that he literally never made any moves on her.
He's an awkward bumbly George Lucas nerd, and she's a literal princess. He doesn't try to court her but she is explicitly shown to be someone he wants to fuck. When she kisses him to fuck with Han, he's stoked as shit. And really that's the point, he's a surrogate for asocial D&D nerds, the idea that the girl kisses you IS the fantasy.
> By ESB she's an afterthought.
Not in the deleted scenes.
>>67343086
>he's stoked as shit
For like a minute before getting sidetracked with more important things. He's downright asexual by ROTJ.
>Not in the deleted scenes.
>implying those count
Also, Han is George's real self-insert, pic related.
>>67343086
>he generically wanted Adventure
>Luke
>Wanting adventure
Are you serious?
That's the first 5 minutes off his character. He didn't want to be a moisture farmer.
Then, his parents get killed, and he decides he's going to do the right thing and stand up to the Empire.
If he'd have just wanted adventure, he wouldn't have joined the suicide mission to take down the Death Star. He would have gone with Han.
But he didn't.
>>67343384
>parents
Thought I typed out the "adoptive" part.
>>67333654
so close
V > IV > VII > VI > I > III > II
>>67331218
It's much better than the prequels but nowhere near as good as the original trilogy.
I can see some kids that never grew out of the prequels which they saw in elementary school saying they think episode 3 is more entertaining, but objectively speaking that's nonesense.
This movie took the nostalgia bullet intentionally so they could prove they care about the license going forward.
Yes, this rams that 20 years down the line TFA will feel stale when marathoning the saga, but if that's the price we have to pay to pull this series out of the muck that is the prequels and away from Lucas' oversight then so be it.
>>67343237
>For like a minute before getting sidetracked with more important things.
It's a moment that is seared into the collective pop culture consciousness forever. It's seared into Luke's too.
>He's downright asexual by ROTJ.
He was never really sexual to start with. That was the whole point in the first place. He's a child. His relationship with Leia was an immature childish understanding of attraction. She was his boon in the second act. She was the Peach to his Mario. It's a childish point of view. We're watching children protagonists being forced into an adult world that they don't really understand, but overcome with space magic enforced with naive optimism.
>implying those count
I'm not saying they're necessarily canon, but it speaks to creator's intent that well into production they were still shooting will-they-won't-they scenes between 2 characters that would eventually be revealed to be siblings. It speaks to the fact that it's clear that the decision to make them secret twins happened late in production or after they settled on the "I am your Father" omgtwist.
>Also, Han is George's real self-insert, pic related.
Ok. Aside from the fact that Luke has essentially all of George Lucas' personality in ANH, is the undertog protagonist in a story with a bunch of badass coolguys, and is literally named LUKE, Han is totally his self-insert. I certainly think they both are versions of George inserting himself into the story, but Luke is clearly George writing George, and Han is clearly George writing George's ideal badass.
>>67343384
>Are you serious?
Yes.
>That's the first 5 minutes off his character.
Literally the most important time for a fantasy movie to establish it's protagonist's standing personality and situation. Dorothy is only in Kansas for like 15 minutes before her adventure starts, and Luke is in American Graffiti in Space for around 10 minutes before his adventure begins. It's those brief scenes before the inciting action hurls the protagonist into adventure that establish everything we need to know about where the character is coming from and what the character wants. See also: Basically every adventure protagonist ever.
>He didn't want to be a moisture farmer.
He wanted to join the imperial academy.
>Then, his parents get killed
Aunt and Uncle
>and he decides he's going to do the right thing and stand up to the Empire.
Because he was already swept up in a conspiracy with an old Jedi and a bunch of maguffindroids. he was already into the hero arc by that point.
>If he'd have just wanted adventure, he wouldn't have joined the suicide mission to take down the Death Star.
That's the definition of adventure. Let's not forget the whole WAR element of the story. All Quiet on the Western Front is all about young men signing up to fight and risk death adventuring across France. Seven Samurai is about disgraced Samurai choosing the adventure path to die like heroes for a greater cause. He's an adolescent boy who gets to go on every adolescent boy's fantasy adventure. He saves a princess and overcomes all odds to take the castle and defeat the badmen.
>He would have gone with Han. But he didn't.
Exactly the point. Han didn't care about adventure and heroics for adventure and heroics sake. He was a cynical, practical criminal who was always looking out for himself first. Luke was almost the exact opposite of that. He longed for adventure. He wanted to be a hero. He wanted everything the audience wants in a fantasy adventure story, and he got it.
>>67344179
>Aside from the fact that Luke has essentially all of George Lucas' personality in ANH
Nigger pls, George was never that cute.
>>67344389
>>That's the first 5 minutes off his character.
>Literally the most important time for a fantasy movie to establish it's protagonist's standing personality and situation.
>It's those brief scenes before the inciting action hurls the protagonist into adventure that establish everything we need to know about where the character is coming from and what the character wants.
What is character development?
How do you not get that the entire plot of Star Wars, the reason Han and Luke get medals side by side in the end, is because both of them turn from selfcentered characters, to people who are willing to do what is right for the greater good?
Luke was more drastically pushed into it in the beginning, but he still made choices.
Hell, you said it yourself. He wanted to go to the Academy.
Does the Empire look like an adventurous employer to you? If anything, he wanted to make something of himself. If he wanted this nonsensical idea of adventure as you define it, where he'd just fly into the freaking Empire in an X-Wing, he'd have had plenty of other choices on Tatooine.
I mean this could be bait. It should be.
I can't imagine that someone wouldn't get Star Wars of all things.
>>67343523
That is a very sensible response.
Not OP but TFA had to both distance itself from the prequels and reconnect us to the OT AND give us new character introductions. It did all those things in a serviceable fashion.
It's no 10/10 movie by any means (I think it got fucked up in editing,personally) but it did it's job. Hopefully episodes 8 and 9 take us back to the fantastical SW universe again instead of being full-on POTTERY.
The star wars movies have always been trash.
>black character using a number of contemporary speech mannerisms
White person writing a black guy coming in far too loudly.
You could have had Chris Tucker playing the role and it would not have changed the experience.
>>67344538
Idealized author insert. He actually is an asocial man child, but he's still also a narcissist. Not to mention that, as written, Luke aint cute at all. Hamill's the real qt in the equation.
>>67344564
>How do you not get that the entire plot of Star Wars, the reason Han and Luke get medals side by side in the end, is because both of them turn from selfcentered characters, to people who are willing to do what is right for the greater good?
No. Luke was gung-ho to save the princess, he was gung-ho to escort her to the rebel base, and he was gung-ho as fuck to storm the castle. The entire dynamic between Luke and Han leading up to the resolution is that Luke is annoying naive and optimistic and "heroic," and Han is a mercenary shoot-first who only joins the adventure because of necessity. He has to get away from Jabba, and he has to make some money to cover his debts. The entire point of the him showing up to save Luke in the third act is to show that Han's had a change of heart. He came around to seeing things from Luke's perspective, at least enough for him to go to battle and risk death with nothing to be gained.
>Luke was more drastically pushed into it in the beginning, but he still made choices.
Yeah, and all his choices were to continue the adventure. He could have seen the "Help us Obi-Wan, you're our only hope" message, and hit delete. But no, he followed the white rabbit.
>Hell, you said it yourself. He wanted to go to the Academy.
He wanted adventure. The Academy in an Empire-controlled region would be the standard means to that end. He's a wannabe hero. He's the kind of kid that joins the marines at 18, or as it happens in Luke's case, the insurgency.
>Does the Empire look like an adventurous employer to you?
Do the Marines? Does the Navy? Get to see the world, learn new skills, maybe get in fights, maybe do heroic shit.
>he'd have had plenty of other choices on Tatooine.
Like what? He's a farmer on a desert planet.
>>67340537
>>>67340270
>>>67337688
>Almost like the circumstances had changed for both those characters between their first encounter and final battle. Almost like that's how adventure story arcs work.
How though? Rey hasn't gone through any learning or development since then. This isn't an arc. "Man gets job and works hard" is an arc, "Man wins lottery" is not.
>Almost like heroes and fantasy adventure movies are the protagonists because they are extraordinary or something.
Come on man, you JUST said she's supposedly gone through an arc. Characters don't start extraordinary, they have to develop and grow into an extraordinary character, because their journey is always a metaphorical journey within themselves. All stories which resonate follow this format, and with very good reason. Rey doesn't progress at all, she just suddenly already has all these powers, which is extremely unsatisfying to watch.
>Ignoring the trench scenes in essentially every other Star Wars movie.
Such as...?
>>Rey closes her eyes cuz she dont need no man to teach her how to concentrate on the force. She just uploads sweetsaberskills.exe from the matrix
>Luke closes his eyes and turns of targeting cuz he don't need no automated assistance and uses the force to make a photon torpedo turn 90 degrees.
Luke - who, by the way, has spent the movie getting his ass kicked, picking himself up and gradually learning be a hero, which is an actual character arc - has guidance from Obi-Wan, as he has throughout the movie. It's not an "I'm so awesome" moment, it's a leap of faith, and clearly presented as such. This is satisfying to an audience because it's the completion of his journey - he has learned to embrace and trust in the Force, and taken his first steps in a larger world.
I'm honestly not saying this to be a dick, but you need to watch more films and learn more about story structure. So much of what you said is way wide of the mark.
>But as long as there's light, we gotta a chance
That needed to cut those light puns out.
>>67344817
>Not to mention that, as written, Luke aint cute at all. Hamill's the real qt in the equation.
He's a naive, idealistic, whiny sweetie pie who is completely out of his depth, that's totally a cute personality.
>>67331218
/thread
Also (maybe) this:
>>67331333
>It was worse than the prequels.
>>67342377
>V>IV>III>VI>II>VII>I
SO SAY WE ALL!
>>67344825
>This isn't an arc
It literally is.
>"Man wins lottery" is not.
Are you not at all familiar with the fantasy or adventure genres? Spiderman "wins lottery," Superman "wins lottery," Wolverine "wins lottery," Harry Potter "wins lottery," Frodo "wins lottery." Fuck's sake man Force Users are genetic mutants with telekinetic, psychic, mystical space powers. If you're the protagonist of a Star Wars movie, you "won the fucking lottery." The entire arc of any hero's journey boils down to "discovering you are special" and "choosing to embrace how special you are" so that you can win the story.
>"Man gets job and works hard" is an arc,
In what story?
>Characters don't start extraordinary,
Other than Superman, Harry Potter, Luke and Anakin Skywalker, Neo, basically every YA protagonist, almost every Marvel and DC character, and essentially every protagonist at all relevant to this conversation.
>Luke - who, by the way, has spent the movie getting his ass kicked, picking himself up and gradually learning be a hero, which is a character arc
Luke has a different motivation and the story plays it out differently than Rey. Luke wants to be a hero, and goes through a learning curve figuring out how to be. Wannabe hero learns the ropes.
Rey doesn't want to be a hero, and has to ultimately decide to do the right thing and embrace her fate. Reluctant hero finds their way.
They're both tried and true character arcs. Your complaint is that her's isn't literally the same as his.
We're 7 movies into the series, we don't need a nerd-surrogate dipshit to walk us into the lore anymore. They skipped the naive know-nothing optimist protagonist that was done well in ANH and terribly in TPM, and went ahead and made the protagonist someone that had already had to survive in a harsh world.
>It's not an "I'm so awesome" moment, it's a leap of faith, and clearly presented as such.
That's fine. He still inexplicably used space magic to win the story.
V is god tier. Compared to the others it's like comparing Matrix to its sequels
>>67345245
>Rey doesn't want to be a hero, and has to ultimately decide to do the right thing and embrace her fate. Reluctant hero finds their way.
Luke turned down being "a hero" too though, he only decided to go on the adventure once his adopted parents died and he had no other purpose.
>Characters don't start extraordinary,
>Other than Superman, Harry Potter, Luke and Anakin Skywalker, Neo
Luke doesn't belong in that list because he failed at practically everything besides the Death Star, and that came about due to practicing shooting Womprats and flying an aircraft that was outfitted with the same control system as one he flew at home.
>>67344687
I do feel that it opens up interesting scenarios for 8 and 9 while not taking any risks in their current movie.
Personally I still want to see ep. 8 and will want to see 9. I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt that neither of these movies will have a Starkiller Base II or other stale poetry.
>>67342407
>that teasing stare
M-Mark pls
>>67337827
im glad im not the only one who thought Leia ignoring chewie was fucking harsh and stupid.
>>67344179
its almost like you think writers use their own knowledge and experiences as a basis for their work...
I think Force Awakes had it's problems but it also did things right.
That being said, this thing... Maz Kanata, what the fuck were they thinking?
>CGI in a room full of practical effects
>My Wookie boyfriend!
>1000 years old (for no reason (oh wait, older than Yoda!!!))
>Voiced by a young woman putting on an old woman voice
>Voice has a weird Jamacan twang
>Crawls across bar table so we can look at the cgi in extremely close detail and how painfully obvious that it is cgi
>>67345492
>Luke turned down being "a hero" too though, he only decided to go on the adventure once his adopted parents died and he had no other purpose.
Eh he had already opened the box. Inciting action had already happened. He was already balls deep in the "saving the princess" intrigue by the time they died. His caregivers dying was just another plot beat to wrap up any loose ends hampering the story progression. In the Lucas ex machina sense, killing his Aunt and Uncle actually removed his choice. He had nothing to go back to, at that point he had to move forward.
Again, ANH is basically a "kid get's his wish" story, for better and worse. He "wished upon 2 daylight moons" and kickstarted the progressive action of the story.
>Luke doesn't belong in that list because he failed at practically everything besides the Death Star
He's literally one of the strongest force users in Star Wars canon, without any of the bullshit prequel canon baby training or anything else. He starts off seemingly normal, but oops turns out he's The One. Remember when I said
>The entire arc of any hero's journey boils down to "discovering you are special" and "choosing to embrace how special you are" so that you can win the story.
Harry Potter in his first act isn't explicitly "special" but then he is suddenly plunged into this secret world of intrique and magic and oops turns out he's The One. Neo in his first act isn't explicitly "special," he's an angsty IT nerd with tardiness problems, but then he is plunged into a world of intrigue and computer bullshit and oops turns out he's The One. They're all the same. Rey is also a The One, but unlike Luke or Neo she wasn't asking for it or seeking it out. She's closer to Harry Potter in that regard. Some heroes seek out greatness, others have it thrust upon them.
>>67345880
Almost.
>>67336288
YOU SICK FUCK
>>67346331
>He was already balls deep in the "saving the princess" intrigue by the time they died
That doesn't change the fact that he said "no, I'm not going to Alderaan, I hate the Empire but there's nothing I can do, I gotta go home or I'll get in trouble, sorry".
>He's literally one of the strongest force users in Star Wars canon,
This is bullshit though considering he failed all of Yoda's tests, failed in his first fight with Vader, barely managed to use the force to get the lightsaber to come to him, failed a Jedi mindtrick with Jabba, nearly lost against the Rancor, only won against Vader the second time due to giving into the dark side, and then got rekt by Sheev. The only real accomplishment he ever had was destroying the Death Star and influencing Vader.
i dont even, its a mediocre film how did it get such a high rating.
>>67336996
i like her
>>67331218
It was really bad. Especially all those shitty attempts of being fun.
>I'm in charge Phasma! I'm in charge!!! XDXD
>>67331218
it was shit, movies for the masses.
>>67343237
>luke was originally a girl
Its all beginning to make sense.
>>It's not an "I'm so awesome" moment, it's a leap of faith, and clearly presented as such.
>That's fine. He still inexplicably used space magic to win the story.
What is internal logic
You are far more confident in your own intelligence than you should be. I've been reading your comments and you come across as someone who just doesn't get how stories work, but is utterly convinced that they do. You've got to consider that, if Rey's story worked as well as you claim, people wouldn't be reacting so negatively towards it. It doesn't feel right, whether you can put your finger on it or not, and the reason for that is her complete lack of an arc. She has no learning curve, the only journey she goes on is a literal one, and her sudden mastery of the force is dramatically underwhelming because it's a reveal, not a reward.
>>67333654
> VII > VI
hahaha fucking pelb
>>67331218
It was worse than the prequels, and the prequels weren't good.
>>67333654
Haha fuck no faggot
It was worse than the prequels, at least the originals tried to be original
>>67331218
I'd argue that it was worse than the prequels because it just lazily tried to cash in on nostalgia while simultaneously just remaking ANH for a new audience. I've never seen a movie that was so dedicated to playing it safe, it was painful.
You may not like what he did, but Lucas had a unique vision for the prequels, and got to make them without anyone else interfering with it (unlike the original trilogy). There's a lot of interesting political commentary that makes the prequels much more meaningful than any of the other movies.
it was shit
>>67347505
>small
>cute
>innocent
>sweet but also flawed
>needs to be rescued a lot and makes mistakes in the beginning but grows into being competent
If Luke had been a girl he would be the supreme waifu.
>>67347656
He's already the supreme waifu as a boy. Boys can be best girl too.
>>67347678
Yes, but unfortunately straighties are too pleb to realize this.
>>67331218
It's not as bad as the PT objectively, but I personally find it more offensive for shitting on the OT.
>>67347778
This.
>tfw TFA ruined everything for the original characters to make room for JJ's shitty self-inserts
The film was very average. It had great production values, as one would expect from Disney's venture into Star Wars, but as many people have pointed out it only revisited plot points and themes we have all seen before. Nothing new or interesting occurred during the entire thing. The OT had its charm and instantly recognizable character arc, and the PT for all its flaws explored a darker side to the universe.
This new film, supposedly the first of a trilogy, doesn't seem to have anything going for it. It really only had throwbacks to better films: references for people to appreciate with their rose-tinted glasses. It was a montage of mediocrity.
>>67347678
This.
>>67347119
Pleb detected
>>67331218
>It's completely devoid of humanity, and only real purpose, other than money,
So it's Star Wars then?
>>67347678
Leia is hot, fairly independent, and flirty af.
You're not wrong for wanting Luke as waifu, but there's better choices senpai.
>>67348496
>implying Leia is better
>wanting a butterfaced whore for a waifu
>>67331218
Here's my opinion:
All the new characters were good and carry the movie.
Han and especially Leia bog shit down so hard and are so awful they ruin the movie whenever they are on screen, which is way too much for Han.
The plot is atrocious. Wow another Deathstar. Amazing that people get paid to write this.
In the context of a 'reboot' which is how it feels, the next installments could come good if they don't have a shit ton of Luke in them and focus on the new characters.
As a standalone movie this was like a 5/10. Rey is CUTE
>>67348670
>All the new characters were good and carry the movie
>Mary Sue
>Emo villain
>Annoying, cheeky pilot guy
No. Was surprised that Finn ended up being the least annoying of them. For everything else you said, I pretty much agree.
>>67348496
No.
Lukefu a best.
>>67348670
>the next installments could come good if they don't have a shit ton of Luke
Kill yourself.
>>67348652
>>67349125
Luke doesn't even have a vagina
So. How long till homosexuals ruin Star Wars too?
>>67349265
2018
>>67349263
>implying
>>67348856
>Mary Sue
No one cares that at the age of 9, Anakin
was able to build two identical jet engines
from scratch out of spare junk and then
literally strap them onto a pod with some cables, presumably writing his own programming for the software of the pod,
which yielded a vehicle that could safely
travel 700kph, which he could repair
on-the-fly from sabotage while piloting it at
high speeds and while fending off other
people who were trying to kill him.
So is this pasty motherfucker meant to be sheev?
>>67349263
And yet he's still more feminine than the brash and dominant Leia and that butch shemale Rey.
Also, boypussy.
>>67349372
all of his lines are sheev's, so uh, yeah actually.
>>67349277
>2018
If Finn and Poe is gay I would be done with the sequels but if my nigga Luke is Star Wars would be dead to me.
>>67349408
>but if my nigga Luke is Star Wars would be dead to me.
I've got bad news for you, son....
Does anyone else find old Luke to be extremely sexy? Dude's still got it even after all these years.
>>67348670
>All the new characters were good and carry the movie.
Rey, Ginger Goebbels, and Orange Transgender Yoda were all horrible.
>>67349443
>Does anyone else find old Luke to be extremely sexy?
Were you not here when /tv/ first discovered Hamill unJUSTed himself?
>>67349318
>kid has a hobby
>she can fly the millenium falcon instantly
>>67349427
>I've got bad news for you, son....
It isn't confirmed. That was just another thing Tumblr blew to proportion.
He isn't gay, he just said he is fine with fans thinking that.
The scene where they meet Han with the tentacle monsters feels like a rejected scene from Star Trek.
>>67349517
>Were you not here when /tv/ first discovered Hamill unJUSTed himself?
What?
>>67349520
>she can fly the millenium falcon instantly
Or you could actually pay attention to the film, particularly the line where she says that she has worked on the Falcon for Unkar Plutt.
>>67349520
>She knows how to fly
>She knows the ship
>She knows the place
>She's Force-sensitive
>Almost crashes the ship several time anyway
No one ever said the Falcon is hard to fly. Even Leia pilots it in ANH when Han et Luke shoot at the TIEs.
>>67349582
>not knowing what JUST is
When Mark showed up looking great at the premier after years of being overweight, many on /tv/ lost its shit and fell in love.
Why the fuck is it that even Attack of the Clones managed to add more lore to this franchise than anything that was in Force Awakens.
God this movie hurts.
>>67349318
Did I say Anakin from Phantom Menace was any better? She was still a boring Mary Sue character.
>>67349644
just because i worked on a ship doesn't mean i can fly a ship. and it definately means that i can't avoid two combat hardened pilots by spinning
>>67349781
>avoid two combat hardened pilots by spinning
It's a good trick though
>>67349644
Leia didn't pilot it dipshit, Chewie did.
>>67349781
The TIE were constantly on her tail whatever she did. And she can fly a ship, she just never went off-planet.
>>67349671
I thought JUST had to do with that weird hairstyle people photoshop onto stuff.
Good to know /tv/ can recognize a handsome man when they see one, though.
>>67349815
And who was piloting the Falcon in Empire Strikes back when Han and chewie were trying to repair the hyperdrive before they entered the astroid field?
