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How are there no good movies based on any of his stories? Is his writing just too difficult to convert to film? Has there just been no one of talent to try?
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>>67254587
Because he's a racist hack
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>>67254587
Fuck off with this shit.
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>>67254606
>>67254614

u wot m8?
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>>67254587
His stories are pretty bad. The only real draw is the lore behind it, which doesn't exactly convert well into a filmic structure.
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>>67254587
His entire catalog of horror techniques is based on some variation of "the [monster/twisting architecture/feeling of dread] was too [horrifying to describe/comprehend/see]." It doesn't really convert well to a visual medium. Didn't they make Horror at Innsmouth into something anyway?
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>>67254659
The Shadow Over Innsmouth could make a pretty decent horror short, if they cut the "THEN WHO WAS PHONE?" twist ending
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>>67254732
Yeah, that was it. Shadow over Innsmouth. Is that the one where the guy turned out to be a fish person in the end? It's been so long since I've read it. But I think they did make a movie based on it, which got "mixed reviews."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dagon_(film)
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>>67254659

Yeah, but it sucks. The Color Out Of Space could be made into something decent.

Herbert West re-animator got a film but again, I think it's shit.
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Alien is the only movie that really captures the essence well.

The Mist was ok.

Nothing will capture how awesome and terrifying the radio messages in 'At the Mountains of Madness' are.
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>>67254587
>Woodrow Wilson
Because World War I was an unnecessary war in U.S. history. Taft is a fucking cunt for splitting the Republicans and being a little bitch about the election of 1912.
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>>67254824
I actually did see that. I turned it off halfway through, but look at the RT on it. Everybody else loved it.I liked the Rats in the Walls myself the most out of all his stuff. I think that's too short to be adapted into anything.
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They would be "problematic" and minorities would chimp-out if his name ever becomes mainstream.

Reminder that 10 years ago he was considered as a writer with racist tendencies while now he's a racist (the biggest crime of our era) with writing tendencies.

proof: http://mediadiversified.org/2014/05/24/the-n-word-through-the-ages-the-madness-of-hp-lovecraft/
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>>67254833
I also forgot The Thing.


The Thing and Alien are the best Lovecraftian movies. The Evil Dead gets honorable mention. The rest pale in comparison.
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>>67254587
Does anyone else think that he looks a lot like Linkara (if Linkara lost 500 pounds)?
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The German film of The Color Out Of Space was pretty good
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>>67254655
>>67254659
These.
>>67254970
Any links?
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>>67254587
A lot of his works wouldn't translate well to film because it's difficult to accurately convey horror that's supposed to be indescribable. The shorter-form storytelling he used would also require ridiculous amounts of filler to reach something feature length in a film. I think you could get around that with a Netflix anthology series, though, so no set runtimes would be required one way or another. It would also allow for a more diverse group of writers and directors to adapt the stories that would fit their styles the best, since a person who could do Pickman's Model the best might not be the best choice to adapt The Shadow Over Innsmouth.
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>>67254587
reanimator wasn't terrible, but generally speaking his worj is pretty unfilmable.
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>>67254885
>mfw we don't live in the parallel reality where Teddy Roosevelt won the presidency in 1912 with the Bull Moose Party
Jdimsa
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>>67255151
>mfw we don't live in the parallel reality where Eugene V. Debs won the presidency in 1912 with the Socialist Party
Jdimsa
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>>67254938

Who the fuck wasn't racist throughout our entire history? No need to single him out.
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He's been blacklisted from hollywood cause he called his cat a nigger.

Yes, you read that right.
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>>67254814
The actual stuff in Innsmouth is great, but the final section where he traces his family history on a whim and finds out HE WAS A FISH ALL ALONG despite having no prior knowledge of the town was pretty lame.
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>>67254970

I've not been able to find this on the internet. There is an American version of the story supposedly in works right now. The German one does look decent, like I said though, I can't find it anywhere.
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>>67255298
I don't like this recent turn against him either, but to be fair, most people weren't obsessed to the point where they wrote poetry about it and named their cat Nigger Man.
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My only grief with Lovecraft is that he desperately needed a thesaurus or editor. While reading at the mountains of madness I noticed a two things about his amatuerish writing style:

>He used several words, specifically 'cyclopean' at least 30 times
>He would use the same adjective/adverb two sentences in a row and one time twice in the same sentence
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>>67255354

I admit, that part had me kind of chuckling. It was a bit out of place.
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>>67254606
>>>/r/eddit
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>>67255298
>>67255333
>>67255362
That being said, I wish more people would google the terms "infernal nigger" and "Bram Stoker" and see what comes up.
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>>67255362
He loved that cat.
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>>67255400
The diary writing bits where he "goes mad" have not aged well, either. Decades of video games and movies doing that trope much better just makes it seem like a pathetic attempt to be edgy now. It's really silly by modern standards.
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>>67254587
Because film companies don't pay for high budget horror movies, especially if they're by bigoted tests, despite how much influence he's had on modern genre fiction.

The best shot they have is an Unknown Kadath movie series (because it's relatively high fantasy) backed by liberal casting choices.
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>>67254953
fuck off Douge, nobody likes you
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>>67255472

That reminds me that in one his stories Lovecraft mentions a "nautical looking negro"

>what did he mean by this.tiff
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>>67255498
People liked his work so much he retroactively became a pleb.

RIP
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>>67255533
Even back then they knew that a black person swimming was unusual
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Just adapt Neonomicon and be done with it
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>>67255593
Yeah, that one's not gonna fly.

A Providence series, though, that could be great. Period setting, exploring the proto-mythos.
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>>67255400
>It was a bit out of place.
More like Out of Space, am I right?
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>>67255531
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Because Lovecraft is beyond film.
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>>67255533
There are so many examples of stuff like that in horror fiction of that era that it makes me wonder if they weren't just using it the same way people here call each other double niggers for fun. Either way, none of it was terribly integral to the story so I don't see why people can't just adapt his works leaving those small details out.
>>67255593
As much as I wish that could happen, the only way that's ever happening is on premium cable or Netflix. The subject matter is far too risque for theatrical release or regular television adaptations.
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>>67255360

Ok, I swear i checked like a week ago and it wasn't on Prime, but I guess it is.
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>>67254938
>>67255298
I don't think anyone should be excusing Lovecraft's racism. His xenophobia was far from the norm, even at the time to the point of the man himself acknowledging it. But neither should anyone be so hung up about it, point at it as his only defining trait and as a detriment to anyone ever enjoying his work. We should do like we should be doing to this insufferable navel gazing and self censoring PC culture that has escalated in the west in resent times and hurry past those eggshells instead of treading lightly at them. The sooner, the better for everybody because if there's anything genuine racism thrives on, it's constantly being reminded of it.
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>>67255788

Oh, God, it's already I can tell it's even more amateur than that silent movie version of Cthulhu.
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>>67255381
Being literally paid by the word does that to a man's prose.
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>>67255982

Lovecraft admitted as much in one of his letters, that writing for Weird Tales didn't have the best influence in his work.
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The Thing is the closest
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I'd like to see an adaptation of The Case of Charles Dexter Ward that is true to the story.
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because it's hard
there aren't too many directors that could pull it off without being cheesy
i've read a lot of lovecraft, and honestly this whole excuse about it being indescribable is nonsense. there are some great stories in there.
the problem is budget. he's all setpieces, or monsters. if you spend all your money on that you're gonna get some shitty actors, and then you're looking at pure cheese.

the rats in the walls is one of my favorites, read it and tell me his horror is 'indescribable'
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>>67256160
I think JK rowling is more your speed, kid
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>>67254953
Holy Shit replace the tentacles with Kaka and BBC, you have linkara
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>>67256047
Yeah, reading his letter it's pretty clear that Lovecraft himself was his harshest critic.
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>>67255982
Phillip K Dick got paid by the page and so he'd snort amphetamines and write 50 pages in a day.

The man was a true genius.
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Reminder that this is the most Lovecraftian film ever made. If you think his stories are about oogy-boogy space aliens, you need to reread them.
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>>67256255
>mfw the last thing he wrote was a letter describing how perfect Blade Runner was and that it was all worth it
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>>67255698
Call me pleb but I think he works best in an interactive medium
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>>67256212
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>>67256331
Seconded.
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>>67254659
>His entire catalog of horror techniques is based on some variation
The Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath want to have a word with you
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>>67254606
>please respond
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>>67256255
Is there honestly an overlap between fans of Lovecraft and fans of PKD? Because the two just so happen to be my all time favorite authors.
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>>67256255
Stephen King, too
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>>67256398
>It will never be the 80s again
>You will never hole up in a cramped dorm room with a few close-knit buddies on a stormy night and play an all night session of Call of Cthulhu while listening to Anthrax and Metallica

Just end it now...
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>>67256427
i keep meaning to pick up some phil if that means anything to you
i've always liked a scanner darkly, and that part about him in waking life got to me before i even knew who he was
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>ywn listen to the audio version of "On The Creation Of Niggers" read by Christopher Walken
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>>67256495
Stephen King had more money so he could afford cocaine. Thats how we got the underage gangbang in It and Maximum Overdrive
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>>67256504
dat skimpy clothed ass of Dr wonder girl
needless to say i jacked off
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>>67254659
I've read almost no lovecraft: the post
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>>67256568
>underage gangbang in It

Didn't they take turns?

Also pretty normal for teenagers tbqh.
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>>67256627
I remember them being preteens, but I havent read it in a decade
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>>67256568
King is such a terrible writer in all honesty. He's worse than shit.
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>>67254587
Edgy teen fanfiction-tier horror writer, stay pleb /tv/, love /lit/.
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>>67254606
How is lovecraft racist? I read one of his stories and I didn't see any racism, you might be referring to general ways of speaking during the time he lived
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>>67256568
>underage gangbang in It
Thank you for reminding me
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>>67255240
Holy shit how different would that be eh
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>>67254951

Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
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>>67256727
No, it's pretty well-documented that Lovecraft hated mostly anyone that wasn't a white, rich old money person from New England.
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Mountains of Madness could be bretty good desu
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>>67256817
I'm fine with that, as a non-white. I can see past it
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>>67256549
Both men were mentally ill and both would have been ideologically opposed to one another, yet there's a further overlap that makes both their lives and their visions seem like they were cut from the same cloth, just in two very different eras that influenced their healthy doze of brilliant and crazy in a very different manner.
Makes you wonder what Lovecraft would have written had he lived longer, and if and how it would have influenced Dick if he did.
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>>67256828
The radio reports wouldnt translate to film. The fact there is very little actual action experienced by the narrator wouldnt translate.
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>>67256853
So can S. T. Joshi, the foremost authority on H.P. Lovecraft in the modern era.
But everyone "has to" pick a side these days: Either you're an idiot bigot or an idiot fascist.
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>>67256920
It could be a fps movie like Hardcore Henry
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>>67256549
Do Android Dream of Electric Sheep?
Ubik
The Minority Report
The Man in the High Castle

All excellent reads.
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>>67257001
I want you to slap yourself for suggesting that.
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>>67256828
I keep saying that The Temple, one of his more underrated early shorts, is ripe for a medium budget undersea chiller.
Could be made as a supernatural horror version of Das Boot.
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>>67257001
Herzog makes good movies without any action
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>>67257003
Don't forget his short story collections. It's where some of his greatest treasures are.
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>>67256627
yea it wasn't a gangbang it was a train
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>>67257110
That nature doc where the peguin wanders off into the mountains of antarctica to die was his lovecraft movie
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>>67257195
It wasn't a subterranean giant albino penguin though...
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Lovecrafts best story is "The Curious Case of Charles Dexter Ward". Could it be adapted? Yes. Could it be adapted well? It would need an absolute master to do so
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>>67256621
Sorry, but as a massive Lovecraft fan, that guy is mostly right. Lovecraft's 'Mythos' stories are a damn sight more commercially viable than trying to translate The Dream Quest Of Unknown Kadath or Through The Gates Of The Silver Key.
Most of his descriptions do boil down to unknowable indescribable horror. Maybe you could do The Rats In The Walls, but that's not 'Cthulhu' enough to sell. Maybe The Lurking Fear, but by the reveal, that would just be The Hills Have Eyes turned to The Descent.

Del Toro was going to give Mountains of Madness a stab, but let's be fair, no one would be scared of Albino Penguins, Starfish headed Things and formless black rice pudding monsters with eyes and teeth.

Innsmouth, as demonstrated by the film 'Dagon' almost works, if it had only had a decent director, budget, location, script and effects... But still, ManFish aren't scary, they weren't scary to Lovecraft's contemporaries either. In a book that's ok, less so in a visual medium.

Lovecraft is dated as fuck, but can still be a treasure chest of inspiration. That's about all his fiction can be any more. All that said, Lovecraft was called out in his day for over using 'it was beyond description!' and it remains a valid criticism.
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>>67257281
the idea of a rat with a human head always creeped me the fuck out
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>>67257281
>ManFish aren't scary
I bet to differ.
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>>67257281
Pic related: not scary
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>>67257281
>But still, ManFish aren't scary
They can be if you know what you are doing
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>>67257337
That relied far too heavily on jump scares and lifted parts of 'Innsmouth' verbatim... Was still fucking fun, that said. Ok, fine, ManFish can sometimes work.
>>67257333
You mean Brown Jenkin? Sure, but the power is in your imagination. You have a cgi/animatronic version, and it'll look silly.
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>>67257281
>Lovecraft is dated as fuck,
>even bringing up / mentioning Del Toro

come on now kid
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>>67257419
I'm sorry, but no. On a big screen and fully rendered that'd look cartoonish. It looks pretty derp as a sketch.
>>67257451
I'll concede they can be, but it's a hard sell for audiences.
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>>67257281
>no one would be scared of Albino Penguins, Starfish headed Things and formless black rice pudding monsters with eyes and teeth

Del Toro could have made it work
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>>67257281
The Gates of the Silver Key would make a great Disney televised movie... But they would need a ton of matte artists and probably other older techniques as well.

Many of his stories taking place in the 18th Century would be very hard to replicate... Yet that sort of early Colonial American mood is a fascinating theme.
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>>67257588
Lovecraft IS dated. His contribution and influence on the genre cannot be denied. But just because he told some stories first, it doesn't mean he told them best or indeed that they aren't now dated.
What exactly is the issue with Del Toro?
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>>67257822
>something is dated because i say so
Learn to read correcly

Del toro is complete shit. I straight up hate the man and everything he's touched. I've even read multiple books he's co written
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>>67257281
>no one would be scared of Albino Penguins, Starfish headed Things and formless black rice pudding monsters with eyes and teeth
What was supposed to make those things terrifying was the weird monstrosity of it, not the fact that it looked like it could harm you. It was the abstractions that were to challenge everything you thought you knew about everything that were meant to be terrifying.
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>>67256727

This is one of his poems, On the Creation of Niggers:

When, long ago, the gods created Earth
In Jove's fair image Man was shaped at birth.
The beasts for lesser parts were next designed;
Yet were they too remote from humankind.
To fill the gap, and join the rest to Man,
Th'Olympian host conceiv'd a clever plan.
A beast they wrought, in semi-human figure,
Filled it with vice, and called the thing a Nigger.

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/On_the_Creation_of_Niggers
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>>67257897
>he's shit because I said so
Shut up mongoloid, Del Toro is a master at atmosphere if nothing else.
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>>67257724
...yeah, he could have. I want to believe it would suck though so I don't mourn its loss.
>>67257737
I could see it working, but the cost to potential audience ratio might banjax it. Still, it's nice to imagine.
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>>67257944
no, he's not. Fuck him. Seriously.
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True detective definitely had some influences.

>>67257337
This was game was pretty good.
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>>67257994
>UUUUHHHHH NO I DON'T LIKE HIM SO YOU SHOULDN'T EITHER
Stop while you're ahead, your personal preferences are not objective fact. He's great at creature and scenery design and has a very signature look to his shit that's very clearly inspired by Lovecraft in the best way possible.
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>>67258054
>He's great at creature and scenery design and has a very signature look to his shit that's very clearly inspired by Lovecraft in the best way possible.

Negro please. Fuck this fat man.
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>>67258212
Did he beat you when you were a kid, anon?
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>>67257897
Please read Lovecraft. If you can honestly tell me his prose alone isn't archaic then I want what you're smoking. Seriously dude, HPL was known even in life to DELIBERATELY use archaism. He's dated, deal with it.
Also, Del Toro exists outside of Hellboy, I suggest Chronos and the Devil's Backbone. If you truly see nothing of worth, well, I just can't get on your wavelength at all.
>>67257902
Which works fine on paper to an audience who still think of there being more out there. Audiences these days, right or wrong will just shrug them off as silly and by extension the Cosmic Horror you're alluding to, also silly. It's a shame but it's likely true.
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>>67257576
I'm not saying BJ can't be just, just he always freaked me the fuck out.
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>>67254606
Back to /co/ negro
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>>67256727
He was racist, althought towards the end he became much more tolerant.
Too bad he had to die so young.
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>>67258212
Are you upset cause Ronnie P is too old for Hellboy 3: Milk It Dry?
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>>67254659
Only in his early works, in his more mature phase he was much more especific.
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>>67258353

He was deliberately dated, which means he isn't dated at all.

I can't believe some people think 'dated' is a real criticism. 'I can tell this thing I know is old, is old'. Nigga wut
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>>67258212
Why is that fish having a drink if he's underwater?
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>>67258530
I see where you're coming from, you're just wrong is all.

Just because HPL used Archaism, he doesn't get a free pass.

Dated isn't just an issue of being old, it's a matter of current audiences being so far removed from source material that you need to actively TRY to enjoy it, keeping in mind it's issues of - among others - linguistic drift, racial attitudes, bad science and even pop culture references. Without Wikipedia, do you know why the Lovecraftian beast Klarkashton is a shitt fanfic author tier pun?

HPL is dated becuse literature has moved on, the genres he wrote in moved on, deal with it. Is dated a criticism by default? No, just observation of fact. Does the source material being dated affect the possibility of film adaptations? I think yes, absolutely.
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>>67258660
Bikini Bottom is a suburb of R'lyeh.
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>>67254587
There's a modern silent film adaption of Call of Cthulhu that's very good.
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>>67259341
The one by the HP Lovecraft Historical Society? Nice. Much better than Shoggoth on the Roof.
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I think The Color Out Of Space could be well adapted. The child and mother going insane and rotting away like that is pretty creepy.
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Delta Green TV series when?
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>>67259686
What was the Colour anyway?
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>Ctrl-F
>In The Mouth of Madness
>Nobody
I am very disappoint.
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>>67260792
Something outside visible range- which should make it invisible to us but hey
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>>67254587
>How are there no good movies based on any of his stories?
Because they are first person accounts and movies are third person.
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>>67259341
It's a dry adaptation. Doesn't have near the effect it should have.
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>>67261124
Not invisible, but like a colorblind person seeing true color for the first time.
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>>67260735
Did you see the Rough Magik pilot?
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>>67259037
>HPL is dated becuse literature has moved on
Invisible style is hardly an improvement. Using the language of the airport novel is not progression.
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>>67260917
mah nigga
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>in the books the Gods turn people insane just by looking at then
>excited audiences go to see HP Lovecraft's creations on film
>no one loses his/her mind
>people disappointed
>people bitch and destroy the movie online

that's why
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>>67261616
>tfw you will never own and read those books
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>>67261936
Read those books? Anon you're living in the adaption..
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>>67261661
If on film it would be presented as the Medusa's gaze.
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>>67254587
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7jp1CT1h6c

This is the only good Lovecraft thing I know of that captures the "vibe" of Lovecraft through its entirety.
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>>67261955
You're still supposed to be able to read it from the inside.
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>>67257281

...You really think At The Mountains of Madness wouldn't make for a great horror film? Whenever I read it I just see it as The Thing without a central monster and with a more interesting setting. I'm not sure how I'd feel about Del Toro handling it, though.
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>>67258353

>he's dated, deal with it
>deal with it

wew
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>>67262048
Plus it would remind people too much of Prometheus. Another problem is Mountains of Madness is the wrong story to introduce audiences to Lovecraft. It lays explicitly things that were merely hinted at in earlier stories. That's a movie you end on. Dunwich Horror is a better adaptation for casuals.
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>>67254587
Re-Animator is a classic though.
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>>67262163
But it's not Lovecraftian as in cosmic. Even though Lovecraft wrote the original story it's more like an EC comics ancestor.
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>>67259037
>HPL is dated becuse literature has moved on,
dude just fuck off seriously
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>>67262161

The Dunwich Horror actually would be a great start. The whippoorwills scene could be fucking great if handled right, along with the climax and the rampage.
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>>67262228
It's an adaptation of a Lovecraft story. He wrote a shit ton of stuff. Call of Cthulhu wasn't his only story. He did a lot of different genres of sci fi
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>>67254587
>How are there no good movies based on any of his stories?
Because of the time-frame you can only adapt the atmosphere or the themes but not both. Can't get the Lovecraft atmosphere of isolation and decay in a world of cell phones and gps. Can't get the Lovecraft theme of the ancient horrors intruding in the modern world if it's a 1920's period piece, also the urgency of being on the edge of the end of the world is lost when you set it in timeframe removed from our own in the past century.
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>>67262679
Music of Erich Zann. Tell me how you can't adapt that, even in a modern setting.
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>>67262679
Peter Weir did a pretty good job of adapting/incorporating The Rats in the Walls into a late 70's setting with >>67259266
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>ctrl+F
>no Dunwich Horror

That's Lovecraft's most solid plot and it's the most easily adaptable
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>>67254606
shut up coon
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>>67255872
purest of literature
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>>67263265
What does coon mean?
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>>67263316
warmest hats
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>>67263316
A derogatory word for black people. Coon as in Raccoon.
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>>67263440
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Well, how about some other Lovecraftian authors?

Pic related is Thomas Ligotti, and the creator of True Detective was accused of plagiarising his work in the first season.
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>>67264603
This is Ramsey Campbell, two of his books have been made into movies.
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>>67264654
And we have Laird Barron, who mixes Lovecraftian horror with hardboiled detective fiction.

I heard one of his stories will soon be a movie.
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>>67254587
>it was scary... so scary, i can't even describe it!! aaah ive gone crazy now!
His work is largely comprised of this shit and most people don't care to bother with it.
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>>67254587
Because he was a hack and only braindead /v/edditor plebs like him because OMG LE EPIC SPACE OCTOPUS XDD
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>>67254824
They made a movie called Die Monster Die! that's basically Color out of Space and it's not great
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>>67256727
He was far more racist than was usual for his time though as he got older he toned it down and married a Jewish woman.
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>itt people who have never been openly realistic about niggers and how they are
Can't blame HP desu
Also the Orgu Jahad in Hellboy was as close to an old one as has ever been in cinema.
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Whenever Lovecraft comes up on /tv/ no one ever mentions In the Mouth of Madness, why?

It literally takes its name from his stories
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>>67264603
Ashton Smith was a good friend of Lovecraft
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>>67254587
Although not based on any one book, this movie oozed of Lovecraft. John Carpenter doing Lovecraft is great.
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>>67265259
like clockwork
>>67265153
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Lovecraft is "literature" for braindead uneducated manchildren who are too "busy" playing video games and watching animu to read actual books

They are the retarded millennials who still think they can make a living being youtubers or "pro gaymers"
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>>67254587

>How are there no good movies based on any of his stories?
>reanimator is not a good movie
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>>67256991

what is up with this dude's eyebrows? he has like three eyebrow hairs
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>>67257911

this is great
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>>67254587
I like Picmans Muse which is a combination of Picmans Model and Nightgaunt.
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>>67254659
>"the [monster/twisting architecture/feeling of dread] was too [horrifying to describe/comprehend/see]."
That's the best way of doing horror though you pleb. Showing it early ruins everything since it quantifies and narrows down what the nebulous dark entity assaulting the protagonist could be. Leaving it vague as long as possible keeps it up to the audience's imagination which, if coupled with good atmosphere and direction, culminates in the audience willingly scaring themselves as they project their own fears into the unknown horror.
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>>67255354
>>67255400
In fairness to Lovecraft, the start of that story states he was going around tracking down his family tree when he got caught up in Innsmouth. It was plotted out, it's just that it gets forgotten when shit goes down so it seems to come out of nowhere at the end. That and he did tend to create a lot of modern horror tropes so people emulating him have made him "cliche" in hindsight.
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>>67261661
>capitalizing made up videogame-tier "gods"
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>>67256264
Well yeah. Lovecraft's work is a large reaction against relativity.
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>>67257174
>ywn run train on a girl to escape the evil demon lair by the power of eskimo fraternity
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Why is it assumed that a Lovecraftian movie has to even be "scary" in the first place? Isn't a feeling of dread and ultimate hopelessness in the face of forces we can't even comprehend enough? Sure it's not "scary" to not see the monsters, but that's not the point.
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>>67256727
One of his stories had a huge story with a woman's hair coming to life as a grotesque serpent and terrorising the family but the shocking twist was that she was a negress. The entire last paragraph spends so long building up to it, it's like he was frothing mad as he wrote it thinking it was the scariest shit possible.
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>>67266477
dude i don't think that that many dudes even understand HPL in the first place, let alone some hollywood d-bag with his finger on the yes/no button
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>people saying they're fans of lovecraft saying adaptations aren't practical or possible
cmon now
the fucking shorts are great, even the longer ones like "the curious case of charles dexter ward" would be fucking incredible to watch and filmable
so I don't want to hear these lazy excuses
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>>67265259
John Carpenter's Apocalypse trilogy was 2/3 great. Prince of Darkness was so shit though it was like a b-movie
>characters discussing quantum physics and antiparticles
>wait... you don't mean...
>YES! An ANTIGOD! THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH
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Because Lovecraft was a suburb kid writing about how the urban areas terrified him and losing identity in integrated community, and most producers are shitheel city kids interested in how urban areas are worth loving and community in all places and making money.

There are great pastiches, especially Fulci's trilogy and Horror Hotel, but proper Lovecraft adaptations are few and far between.
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Films are not a good medium for cerebral horror and mindfucks. It's all about the JUMP SCARES and BRRRRRRM LOUD NOISES
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>>67254587
>Is his writing just too difficult to convert to film
No it's just complete shit.
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>>67254833
Mountains is pretty cinematic in the beginning and end but the whole exploration of the ancient city is impossible.

"And then we learned from the hieroglyphics that this happened, but this was also going on, and it was this long ago precisely, and their way of life changed at this point, but then it went back, and then the climate changed, but they were ready for it in the following ways, but it was mitigated by these events..........."

The big reveal is hilarious when the other guy sees the impossible and name-checks every Lovecraft monster / story / creature in one babble.
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>>67255472
>born too late to be a slavemaster
>born too early to post on /pol/
>born just in time to call my cat a nigger and make people butthurt about it 100 years from now
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>>67259557
i know Eraserhead is a metaphore about the hardships of fatherhood
but i didnt stop thinking about the heavily blighted town where they lived
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>>67257576

Wake up Walter
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>>67266743
>John Carpenter's Apocalypse trilogy
why They live is not included as a quadrilogy is basically there as a Lovecraftian horror
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>>67264743
Please let it be true
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>>67254606
>Le he's racist therefore bad meme
So was Gandhi, Darwin, and probably the majority of great people in history.
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Can someone help me out here? A friend of mine described a lovecraft story where a guy sees horrible creatures by looking, i think, down this well or hole in this room and i think he had his head covered in a sheet or something, sorry for being so vague but does this ring any bells?
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>>67256817
so why'd he marry a jewess
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>>67254587
Because Lovecraft didn't write dialogue too well and Americans wouldn't watch a movie with no dialogue.
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>>67268490
The same reason he divorced her, she's a jewess.
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>>67259037
>Without Wikipedia, do you know why the Lovecraftian beast Klarkashton is a shitt fanfic author tier pun?

Yes because it references Clark Ashton Smith.
You are a retard. Lovecraft is not dated.
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>>67268414
Is that the one they did on Masters Of Horror?
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>>67254655

>stories
>pretty bad

At the Mountains of Madness says fuck off
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>>67254659

I recommend you read The Temple you stupid no good cuck...
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>>67265806
Eldritch parasitic lifeforms in his brain. Those aren't eyebrows...
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>>67254606

who married a kike and had several kike friends
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>>67256817

in the end he hated everyone... even whites. That gave him cancer
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>>67257337

>man fish
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>>67254587

LOL FAGGOT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZUFUqvkHiI
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>>67269090
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tTHn2tHhcI
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>>67256427
Reporting in.
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>>67267368
>Stargate used as a rep for TV Shows

yesss
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>>67256398
third
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>>67256817
>rich old money person from New England.

You mean England. He loved the British most even as he hated human beings in general.
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>>67267707
The point is that you are supposed to imagine how the re-animated elder things felt, awakening to a world wholly changed. You are given an entire history of their species and at the end, you realize they awoke after millenia and attempted to find their brethren and were consumed by what lies in darkness.

The feelings of the narrator are not important and he even explicitly implores that these strange creatures 'whatever they were, they were men'.
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>>67268490
because he was weak of will and she switched bodies with him to go fuck shoggoths
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>>67254587
>Is his writing just too difficult to convert to film?
If Arkham is in it, the mouthbreathers in the audience will think it's ripping off Batman.
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>>67254587
I have been thinking about this and, since his writing style uses vagueness to make the reader create their own atmosphere and visuals instead of "showing" them, one would have to create a film with very little in the way of monsters and cgi effects, and a lot more of things not directly seen but you know they are there, to create a true lovecraftian film you would need to do some pretty clever things with audio, narration, and cinematography. A lot of scenes would be staring into darkness with a hint of scenery, like a spire so tall it disappears in to darkness, or a stone underground staircase where you cant see whats beyond the shadows (Just a hint, we need our brains to fill in the blanks for us while still being in the same kind of scene and place, if that makes any sense) But in reality, we will probably get a movie with some nerdy but hot female scientist/archaeologist awakening a giant CGI Cthulhu in some kaiju like movie.
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>>67269411
*he switched bodies with him
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5 movie series

Starts with The Thing on the Doorstep. It introduces the background but doesn't go too much into detail about the shoggoths or the lore

Dunwich Horror gives us a tangible look at more of the lore, like Yog-Sothoth and the Necronomicon.

Then the Horror from the Middle Span would be a small sequel to DH

Then Mountains of Madness would intro the larger cosmic scale and intro the Mi-Go. This will explain Shoggoths and other things

Ending with the Shadow out of Time where a worse enemy than the Mi-Go is introduced.
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>>67270054
>Mi-Go

Now I haven't read Mountains of Madness in a long time but I don't remember the Mi-go being in it AT ALL.
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>>67270101
They were mentioned as warring with the Elder Things and Yith.
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>>67270129
Yeah but the story was about the Elder Things with the mi-go as a passing footnote.
Besides, the mi-go aren't really a huge deal in the Mythos.
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>>67254587
He was one of the writers who hammered out many if not most of the foundation tropes for modern horror, his writings would be difficult to translate to film due to their narrative structure and decades of recent media using updated versions of his themes that his work would seem terribly dated by comparison.

to take his work directly to the silver screen now would require serious talent and intense modernisation of his concepts that it may simply be better to leave it be.

that said i would like to see someone try.
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>>67254587
A thousand thank yous for not typing 'based off of.'
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>>67255533
Nautical looking negroes were Polynesians/Melanesians from Oceania that were employed in large numbers by American merchant navy, especially whaling ships
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>>67255593
>>67255619
Make her be gangraped by white college fratboys instead of fishmen and Hollywood would start production immediately
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>>67254655
George Lucas?
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>>67254587

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-03-09/nyaruko-crawling-with-love-f-ova-gets-theatrical-screenings-in-japan/.85800

*ahem*
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>>67270744
Nyaruko is dog shit and not anything like what lovecraft is supposed to be.
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Lovecraft was racist against anything he deemed tribal. He made fun of celts in onw his stories. Racism against nigs is more prelevant in his books though
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