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Old Thread: >>67223766

Let's continue the discussion, kids.

Wasn't Electra terrible?
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pls stop shilling this series is mediocre at best
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she wasn't that bad
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I loved Elektra it's just too bad she was stuck in a shitty story that got completely overshadowed by Frank.
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>>67232348
Elektra was fine. Her plotline was dildos.
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>>67232348
>Wasn't Electra terrible?

No.
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>>67232348
i didnt like elektra at first but i warmed up to her
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I want her to impregnate me.
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>>67232441
lel
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Punisher should have been the main S2 storyline instead of that ninja weeboo shit, and every time Frank wasn't on screen they should have been talking about how awesome Punisher is.

Also, Punisher should have fucked Foggy's ex full penetration.
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>>67232431
Probably because she acts like a cunt at first.
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I want Elektra to sit on my face.
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>>67232431
this, sucked what happened in the finale. Idk what the hell that last episode was really.
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What exactly was Black Sky?
A power?
A title?
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>>67232383
But that's kind of the problem.

Against Frank and Daredevil, generic assassin chick isn't really that interesting and doesn't deserve the amount of screen time she got.
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>Elektra
>terrible

Pick one. You might have issues with her plot, but Elektra herself was awesome.
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Fuck Karen, fuck seƱor foggy, fuck the ninjas aswell with the whole "muh brack skyruh"
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>>67232470
>that entire storyline

Fuck it with fire man
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I just want a Frank Castle series
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>>67232483
Kuro Sora no kawarasu desu ka.
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>>67232510
if you think Punisher isn't getting a series after all this praise, you're fuckin kidding me.
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>>67232470
No one fucking knows. In the first season I thought it was just a code name for some random super powered kid, like maybe he was psychic or super strong or something. But they introduce this evil ninja messiah stuff and the zombie kids and shit. I mean Elektra likes killing people that's pretty much her only power. I'm pretty sure Nobu and Matt could both kick her ass. I know in the comics Electra has all kinds or weird ninja magic powers but not so much here, so fuck.
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>>67232547
As Stick said, they never activated a black sky before. So who knows.
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what i thought was most hilarious about this season was that everyone is hating on foggy, but he's actually the one who was pissed at matt for not focusing enough on frank and spending too much time doing ninja shit with carmen electra. His charcter actually wanted more punisher screentime, but for some reason daredevil just wanted to do ninja shit. Based Foggy was right
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who was blacksmith?
what is black sky?
why was there a giant hole?
who were those kids?
why were they giving blood?
what is micro?
what happened in kandahar?
why are there so many unanswered questions?
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>>67232591
They think foggy was pissed for the same reasons from last season, but he was pissed because matt was being irresponsible and ruining everything.
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>>67232592
>ninja stuff
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>you will never have a wild sexy foreign ninja chick who's madly in love with you and is your partner in fighting crime, and whom needs you to held redeem her soul.

This show was super comfy when they were teamed up. Also I yelped with happiness like a bitch when Elektra chose to help him and stick instead of going with the hand.
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>>67232592
They're setting up the anal sex scene between Nobu and Foggy.
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>>67232592

>who was blacksmith?
Heavily implied its the General dude
>what is black sky?
No one knows
>why was there a giant hole?
Implied it was where they unearthed the rock thing. I say this because Nobu says "this isnt your city" as if it was home to something else before
>who were those kids?
What kids?
>why were they giving blood?
Likely the key to immortality
>what is micro?
plot device for Punisher series/DD S3
>what happened in kandahar?
Related to Micro
why are there so many unanswered questions?
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>>67232612
I was fucking furious that fucking Matt missed the opening statement because his dumb ass was too busy watching Elektra sleep. He kept being gung ho about doing lawyer shit, and he probably only committed like 1% of it this season.

It was super irresponsible, and he didn't nearly get enough negative criticism for it.
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>>67232592
Micro is apparently a supporting character for Punisher. I'm assuming Kandahar and Micro will be explained in his spin off. I think the blood was used for bring people back to life like Nobu or Elektra in the end. Got me on the rest though.
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>>67232656
Micro is Punisher's tech guy that makes him a ton of shit.
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>>67232591
Foggy's narrow minded though. Even in the flashbacks Matt has to correct him about why they became lawyers - to make a difference. As much as he goes along with it, the greater good never really factors into Foggy's decision making where it does with Matt.

It was a dick thing to do, to not be there for two thirds of Frank's trial, but he's ethically justified.
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>>67232626
Not gonna lie, was smiling myself when that happened

Also, was I the only one that teared up like a little bitch when Frank was talking about his daughter hugging him in the classroom
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>>67232592
>what is micro?
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>>67232693
no, I was guilty of that too. stellar acting. I never cared for Punisher as a character before, but god damn does Bernthal make me like him
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>>67232638
>oh... oh... foggy-san, why is it so good?
>the devil 'dared' me, nobu-san and he teached me some stuff
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>>67232591
This.
>Matt: We gotta defend Frank
>Foggy: I don't wanna defend Frank
>Matt: We gotta.
>Several ninjas later
>Foggy: You made me defend a psycho killer, are you even going to help?
>Matt: STOP TELLING ME WHAT TO DO FOGGY, DAREDEVIL IS WHO I AM
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>no barracuda in prison with frank and fisk

Why even bother?
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>>67232592
>who was blacksmith?
The colonel guy who was frank's superior in the army. Everything he said about frank in the court was bullshit, well it was true but the colonel didn't respect frank, he actually despised him for not being loyal. He set the whole gang meetup thing just to kill frank and his family out of hatred.
>what is black sky?
Who fucking knows.
>why was there a giant hole?
Who fucking knows.
>who were those kids?
Just normal kids.
>why were they giving blood?
Well they were captured and doing it against their will, they were pumped with magic bullshit and drained of the blood to power up that stone coffin thing which i assume is what The Hand and Nobundo were using for immortality. I guess they had to power it up with blood to actually use it, and that's why they threw Elektra in at the end to revive her with magic bullshit. Guessing the kids turned into weird faithful zombie kids cause of the magic bullshit pumped into them.
>what is micro?
Who fucking knows.
>what happened in kandahar?
Who fucking knows.
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>>67232591
same with karen. she wanted to fuck punisher soo bad. who doesnt wanna not see that?
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THANK YOU BLACK WESLEY
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>>67232797
Based nesgger
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>episode 3 matt is unhinged as fuck with a chain whip in the stairwell
>episode 9 frank goes berserk on a whole row of inmates
Whole season was worth it just for that shit right there.
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>>67232797
he looked EXACTLY like the ADA
same glasses an shieet
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>>67232797
How does Fisk manage to run anything, let alone a criminal underworld?

He's an uncharismatic fatty that seems to piss off literally everyone he meets.
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>>67232348
>Wasn't Electra terrible?

Her accent is so annoying
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>>67232866
He's old school fat strong
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>>67232844
>mfw he chain whips out another light for the advantage of fighting in the dark
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>>67232866
he has tons of money, he probably wires money to the guards to do his dirty work. yes even despite the gov owning most of his assets, MOST
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>>67232546
doubt it. What would the series premise be? As good as he was in Daredevil, I don't think a solo series would be that interesting. You'd either have him go "good", which would suck, he'd go "bad" which i don't see happening, or he'd stay the same, which would get boring after 4 episodes.
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>>67232866
He makes up for the fat by being 6'4.

When he decided to fight back against Frank in the cell area it was like watching a bear smash its arms into someone.
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>that scene where Fisk is benching 5 plates
completely took me out of it.
Looked so fake. At least show some struggle.
He showed struggle bringing it down but pushed it up like if it was nothing
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>>67232910
If Luke Cage is getting his own series for really no reason at all which will probably be pretty boring, then Punisher will absolutely get his own series because Punisher is actually interesting.
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>>67232468
in the comics she works for the hand, what wasn't explained in the show is that people revived by the hand are brainwashed to join their organization while retaining their personality and traits, and since she was black sky in this iteration they will revive her without any doubt and she will side with them

so expect more shit in s3 and matt trying to reason with her without success
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>>67232844
>mfw Frank is betrayed
>mfw they don't just transition to another scene and let us figure out bu ourselves what happened to him
>mfw Frank "Penny and a Dime" Castle fucks shit up
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>>67232713
Frank: makes noise like Sylvester Stallone having a stroke
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>>67232893
I get that much, and he probably has some income from owning all of the prison's contraband.

But for example in season 1, when he's on the outside. He pisses off the Russians, Nobu, his accountant and even Gao just by being retarded with Vanessa. Even if he manages to escape, no doubt he'll lose all his partners by doing the same shit.
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>>67232510
Punisher, Iron Fist, Hulk and I believe Ghost Rider are getting series in netlfix iirc
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>>67233000
Based nicholas cage.
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>>67233000
>they're gonna fuck up Ghost Rider
Pls no, it was bad enough with the Nick Cage movies
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>>67232952
I liked that scene, nothing drives home how strong someone is better than getting them to negative pause rep 220kg
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there has also been talks of Blade series
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>>67233000
>Punisher
Not confirmed, in fact it's the only thing Marvel has actively denied
>Iron Fist
yup
>Hulk
nope
>Ghost Rider
rumored, but likely

also Moon Knight is rumored
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>>67233047
I can't handle all this shit my nigga
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>>67232663
>Didn't get enough criticism
Foggy shit all over him for it so did Karen. They literally stopped being firm.
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>>67233047
If they make it a campy action show about fucking up vampires with tons of gore, I'll definitely be into it
Not so sure if a show like Blade starts to take itself too seriously
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>>67233089
IMAGINE THE VAMPIRE BBC INTO FOGGY'S FAT ASS
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>>67233070
Matt is terrible friend, no fucking clue why frog boy kept on sticking with him
At least he's slowly getting back with his thick ex
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Don't worry, Bullseye will kill her in Season 3.
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>>67233107
Blade will be the head of the firm Marci tries to get Foggy to work at. And he'll need to really impress him in the interview if he wants a job.

Confirmed
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doesnt karen do porn or become a junkie prostitute in the comics? i think i remember reading that somewhere. i would liek to see that next season
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>>67233133
It's Gwen Stacy in Amazing Spider-Man 2 all again. The only purpose Gwen Stacy had was to die and it's also Elektra's only purpose. Shame they made her a cunt so nobody will care when she dies.
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>>67233159
There's aids involved later.
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>>67232592
They dug a hole to Japan
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How the fuck did Karen not realize Matt was daredevil seriously.
>always bruised
>late for work
>can't talk about what he does on his free time

I get he's blind. But common. It's like even after Matt shows her the helmet he has to fucking say it. And he walks in with fresh wounds. And all she says is "why am I here Matt" she loves digging up shit and finding clues and she can't piece that shit together?
Still

>semen demon
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>>67233186
She's an adorable cunt.
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>tfw they start a Punisher series the way MAX started, focusing on the villains and just having Frank show up to ruin everything for them
>tfw we get Born adapted to a modern setting
>tfw we get Widowmaker and have all the mob wives trying to team up and take revenge on him
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>>67233186
Isn't she alive in the comics?
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BURAKU SKY CHAN
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>>67233089
The marvel universe is so fucking messed up.

First they've got the proper superheroes. Who got their powers through experiments or accidents or whatever. Your Spiderman, Captain America, and Fantastic 4 type characters.

Then you've got the mutants who, in the laziest of all plot devices, get powers just because. No origin stories here. And there's a fuck ton of them which completely floods the hero market and devalues the proper superheroes of the first group.

And then out of left field in comes fucking vampires with Blade.

It's a good thing Marvel got chopped up and shipped off to separate studios or we'd have to deal with all this shit in one universe.
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>>67233250
Nobody stays dead in the comics.
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>>67233303
But that shit makes me hard.
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>>67233214
>I get he's blind.

This doesn't strike you as something that would make it obvious that he couldn't possibly be going around beating people up with his bare hands?
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>>67233303
Don't forget. Thor, Satan, and magic are real in this universe.
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>>67233186
>Bullseye doesn't finish her off
>He lets her stumble through the streets slowly bleeding out
God I love miller's run on daredevil
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>>67233303

But all I want is Daredevil, Punisher and Blade to show up to appear and fuck shit up in Infinity War.
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>>67233421
If I new a blind guy who was always bruised and had a mysterious life out side of work and there was a vigilante I'd ask. In the last episode he strokes her face and talks to her. He has the same rugged scruff and voice. How would she not recognize that?
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Do you guys think its unlikely DD will show up in Avengers 3?
People keep writing articles saying "its very likely" but I heavily doubt it
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>>67233475
>In the last episode he strokes her face and talks to her. He has the same rugged scruff and voice. How would she not recognize that?

By that point shes an idiot but he is blind the the excuse of i walked into something or i tripped actually would do pretty well at covering random cuts and bruises.

Knowing Matt she probably thought he could have been invovled in some kind of boxing thing trying to prove hes not disabled and could be like his dad he gets his ass kicked gets drunk then misses work.
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>>67233506
I get the feel like they want to keep them separated.
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>>67233446
Punisher blows a shot gun shell into the temple of thanos while daredevil yells about another way. Franku looks him in the eyes.
>muh baby gurl
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>>67233506
If he does show up its most likely just a small cameo. Since they are planning a defenders series as well i dont think they want to cram that many heroes into one film.
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>>67233506

The Russos have confirmed we'll see superheroes who haven't even appeared in any media yet, so I wouldn't be surprised if some of the TV characters at least get cameos.
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>>67233214
She knew something was up, but assumed he wasn't the highly acrobatic vigilante on account of him being blind. She thought he might be an alcoholic, or in some weird fight club thing, or just into some really fucked up kinky shit, or at the very least something, but actually being Daredevil seemed outside the realm of possibility.

Besides, it's just not the sort of thing that crosses people's minds, even if you suspect them of having a secret. Like, if there was some serial killer out on the town, you probably wouldn't suggest your best friend or whatever, even if you knew they spent a lot of time to themselves and whatnot, you'd figure they were up to something much more mundane. Especially if your friend was blind and the serial killer was jumping around roof tops and shit.
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>>67233506
Doubtful. Daredevil doesn't strike me as the "save the universe against alien gods" kind of hero
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>>67233475

Women are stupid
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>>67233538
He is the only mcu character that doesn't kill, isn't he?
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>>67233520
I guess. I wish that scene didn't fade. I really wanted to see what Karen would say to that news. I guess I have to wait till season 3
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>>67233506

i read that the tv and movie departments are completely different which is why there hasn't been much in the way of crossovers
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>>67233568
go away gamergate
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>tfw there will be no three silver pieces scene in civil war
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Why did karen completely ignore that matt wasn't alone with electra but that there was a 200 year old blind guy there as well. What did she think was going on, matt and the old dude were double-teaming her or something? baka
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>>67233579
yes but didnt they remerge because the feud between the two ended when one of the guys left/got fired?
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>>67232952
Kek yeah. I couldn't take it seriously. He is just fat, do the writers have any idea how much 220kg is?
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>>67233587
Instead they'll have a montage of Iron Man being a dick with this playing in the background
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y7ACSyxWS0
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>>67232348
I just finished the Punisher line and haven't started watching when Elektra shows up.

But god damn, some moments I thought they had it, like the episode on the roof where they just talk but then they ruin it by badly acted cheesy "Foggy talks down maniacs from fighting because he's such a good guy!".

I mean Frank's philosophy is miles above DD and it feels like the authors knew it but wanted to force it differently.
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>>67233587
>we won't get this scene
IT'S NOT FAIR
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In the last episode...

With the horde of ninjas on the rooftop, was anyone else expecting Punisher to just mow them down?

All he does is finish off 4 leftover jackasses that just stood there? What the fuck!
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When Karens goes to the newspaper and has to look through everything by hand instead of digitally. The guy mentions losing servers or computers in the attack, thought I saw a cyber attack headline. Is this from SHIELD or Jessica jones or AoU or something?
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>>67233559
That makes a lot sense. I guess it bugged me because I knew but Karen didn't. I was just waiting for Matt to tell her. But they cut before she says anything. So frustrating. .
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>>67233609
In the comic he says his fat are muscles. Some people even say he should be played by a strong guy, i say it's bullshit. If he looks fat, i want him to be played by a fat ass.
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>>67233613
>>67233628
Millar a total shit anyway
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>>67233633
Yeah I thought for sure he'd use the mini-gun. Was underwhelming as fuck.
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>>67233635
I think it is from AOU, since he apparently could hack the world.
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>>67233596
Probably that's why she was done with him.
>too kinky
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>capeshit generals

Why has this board fallen so far so quickly?

Go back to /co/ and stay there
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>>67233633
Yeah that bothered me a lot. Daredevil and Elektra just beat up the ninjas. Totally expected them to get mown down by the minigun when they were all bunched up.
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Wellllll I just finished the first episode and it's already obvious introducing Frank Castle was the best thing to happen to this shit mess ever.

The first season was boring as fuck, and yes, someone already spoiled that Foggy dies, apparently, thank GOD, so I look forward to more cutie scenes and DD interacting with actually interesting character scenes.

"Bang."
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>>67233693
>discussing shows on a comics board
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>>67233701
foggy doesn't die. elektra does, faggot
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>>67233609
He's supposed to be strong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fslmDrbxeM
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>>67233701
>that spoiler

I fucking wish.
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Do you think Daredevil could have smelled [/spoiler]Karen's wet pussy when he kissed her[/spoiler]
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>>67233693
>new season of a semi decent show
>discussing it on /tv/
>go browse a cuck thread faggot
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>>67233596
It wasn't that it looked like he was cheating on her, it was that once again Matt Murdock has lied about or omitted something obviously important from someone he cares about. Karen and Foggy are just fucking tired of trying to connect with Matt and having Matt shut them down with his shit.
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>>67233635
Maybe they just rented from a server farm somewhere which got blown up during the alien invasion.
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>>67233730
i'm pretty sure he only has super-hearing/echolocation
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>>67233717
>>67233725
Oh god damn. That was like half the reason I was watching other than the Punisher. FUCK.
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>>67233743
Yeah but later on when foggy asks karen what happened she's like - "I found Matt with a woman in his bed" and omits the blind guy thing. It just feels like lazy writing
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>>67233730
Oh he knew. Probably was going to snatch those panties later for a deep sniff
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>>67233761
Nope. There's a line in Season 1 where he talks to Stick about using silk sheets because cotton sheets feel like sandpaper on his skin.
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>>67233737
>sem decent show

literally a show about grow men in spandex aimed at teenagers, limp redditors and virgin manchildren
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>>67233761
I'm pretty sure all his senses were enhanced.
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>>67233761
No. All his senses aside from sight are improved. He can smell people's hormones and shit in the comics. Detect micro-changes in temperature and all that.

He does this in the show. Do you not remember him like, smelling the dude 3 floors below him in the second episode?
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I'm not a /co/ fag and I didn't read any of the daredevil comics, but

Elektra isn't really dead right? She comes back to life like how Nobu did with The Hands immortality thing and all that blood they drained from those kids / Black Sky supernatural shit.

Also
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I'm so split on this adaptation of the Punisher. On one hand, I hate the Punisher in the comics. I think he's a self righteous cunt. In the show he's much better but he doesn't really feel like the comic Punisher. So I guess it's a bad adaptation but a good character? I really don't know where they can go from here with him either. He can't show up in any other marvel stuff and just start blowing people's head off.

The show is still a mixed bag to me too. They do some great stuff like Punisher and Kingpin but they really miss some of the better and deeper elements of Daredevil himself.
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>>67233790
>I don't like fun
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>>67233779
>>67233793
>>67233799
whatever, nerds
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>>67233814
this doesnt happen in the comics iirc but yes
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>>67233790
It's a superhero show want did you expect.
>nofunaloud.jpeg
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>>67233816
They had to give Punisher more character. In the comics he's very one dimensional and it wouldn't work in the show.
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>>67233769
Yeah because Stick being there didn't appear suspect, Elektra being half naked in his bed was. If Matt didn't have a track record of being so fucking suspect and opaque Karen probably wouldn't have reacted the way she did.
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So the daredevil movie with Ben Affleck is the next storyline for Daredevil season 3?
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I just finished watching episode 4. Frank is gone and some annoying bitch has arrived, I don't feel like watching anymore

also how didn't Matt realize she was in the room?
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>>67233858
something bullseye related since he was supposed to be in S2, and more The Hand crap
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>>67233874
you have to at least watch till episode nine. awesome punisher fight scene
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>>67233874
she can stop her heartbeat or something like the other ninjas
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>Avengers tower not in the skyline

why does this bug me so much
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>>67232348
Her portrayal was fine, it's just that conceptually she's not a very interesting character, it was a mistake having her and the Punisher together in one season since functionally they're the same character but she uses a pair of sai's instead of guns.
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>>67233874
It gets better, just binged it.
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>>67233848
Yeah I get that but he really does not fit in to the Marvel universe they've built. Especially with the whole Civil War thing coming up where the question is should the heroes have unquestioned power. Sensibly, Iron Man, Vision, or someone would just swoop in and have Frank thrown in prison for murder.

I don't think they really care about things making sense anymore though honestly. Hardly any of phase 2 fit together.
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>>67233920
It honestly feels like DD isn't in MCU which is actually fine by me, I like the approach the show takes rather than the films
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>>67233920
That's why there probably keeping it separate. Daredevil and punisher are small scale save the city. Iron man and cap are large scale save the world shit.
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>>67233920
i actually think capeshit works better all together in television format. the movies end up being 3 hours long, and it just becomes overstuffed sensory overload. this is why daredevil and flash are actually enjoyable television shows. they aint high art, but at least they arent trying to be like the batman v superman and civil war stuff. its too overblown and it works better in series format like the comicbooks. a season is like a run or story arc
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>>67233988
They should extend movies to 6 hours.
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>>67233988
I think it would be great if the individual stories were and tie ins were series, and the big event/team ups were films.
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>>67233988
Spider-Man series when?
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>>67233988
>tfw no nextwave tv series to shit on that format with two-episode story arcs
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>>67234054
man that suit looks fucking terrible
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>>67234015
no they shouldnt. they should just release the whole season at once, liek the yare doing. so you can choose whether to binge and overdose, or actually watch it on your own time.
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>>67234059
I fucking hated Nextwave. The art was really nice but the writing was awful. It tried too hard to be random.
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>>67234086
I fucking love this series. It's amazing.
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>>67233988
I think capeshit works great in television if you keep it serious. The DC shows are pretty terrible because they're so god damned silly.

But it's kinda the opposite in the movies. You want things to be lighthearted and fun.
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>>67234112
>random
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>>67234054
As much as I would LOVE Spider-Man having a netflix series with the other street level heroes, I can't see them going for it. For one thing it would be WAY too expensive. Spider-man's powers are much more expensive and difficult to portray, as are most of his villains.

Not only that, but Spider-Man's super popular with kids, so I doubt they want him interacting with the highly r-rated other street-level characters.

It does raise issues though with characters like say, Black Cat, who interact with both Spider-Man and Daredevil a lot. Who gets Black Cat? Or could Kingpin show up in a Spider-Man movie as a villain, or would they not go for that?
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>>67234125
but the movies dont wanna be light hearted and fun. most of teh time they actually wanna try to be serious, and thats when you get tonal problems and movies turn to shit. in tv you can juggle the serious dark and brooding with the light hearted highspirt shit better because you can get to know charcters better over many episodes. in movies they try to cram too much shit in there trying to be funny and scary and serious or whatever, and it usually never works.
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>>67234164
Spiderman is one of the few other Marvel properties that would make a really fun tv series. He has so many villains that things would never get dull. Like you said though, it would cost way too much money to do it right.
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>>67234147
People criticize Deadpool for being /b/ but Nextwave is even worse.
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>>67234212
Imagine if they had the budget.
>#1 comfiest show ever
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>>67233911
what? I saw it multiple times though
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>>67234072
It's the best suit so far though. It's almost perfect imo. I really like how the web pattern is inlay instead of metallic strips running down his face.

The eyes are spot on too. The spider logo bothers me a bit though.
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>>67234164
Kingpin in a Spider-Man movie would be great, also seeing characters like Hammerhead, Black Cat or Tombstone show up in the Netflix series. If anything Spider-Man can bridge the gap between the movies and Netflix shows the best.
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I'm not sure I understood the Hand's plan
>Step 1: Dig huge hole in the ground
>Step 2: Make a normal human with above-average fighting skills your leader
>Step 3: ????
>Step 4: World domination
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>>67232866
I still don't know how he managed to convince the guards to let Frank go.
With bribes, you can get guards to do almost anything, but one thing they will never ever do is let a person escape prison, especially someone as famous as Frank Castle. It would lead to investigation from the government and all of their asses getting fired either for incompetence or suspected corruption.
Think about it, what do you think would happen if a mass shooter just walked out of prison on his first day there, after having killed like a dozen inmates without any guards intervening?
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>Elektra will never sit on your face

;_;
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>>67233327
Karen Page is still dead
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>>67233445
>The only good man he has ever known
Spider-Man BTFO
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>>67234504
Comic book logic is not the same as real one. It would have been more plausible if it was in latin america or something.
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>>67234554
Daredevil probably is the best person in Marvel.
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>>67234631
>Matt Murdock
>Best person
Yeah, no. He keeps fucking everything up and making everyone around him miserable, constantly lying to everyone.
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>>67234607
Hell, it would have been more plausible if Frank just escaped prison on his own. The guards left, assuming that Frank would be killed by the inmates, but after killing everyone in the hallway, Frank grabs a key off the corpse of Dutton and uses it to get out of the cellblock, then knocks out a guard, steals his clothes and escapes.
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>>67234679
Funny thing about Marvel is that no one is perfect, unlike DC. Characters fuck up nearly everything but they still don't give up and try to fix what they broke. This gives characters more depth.
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>Karen becomes addicted to heroin and starts making pornographic movies.[5] In need of a fix, she sells Daredevil's secret identity to a drug dealer, who in turn sells it to the Kingpin.

So...when is this happening? I'm sure this will happen soon after her new employer realize she's a mediocre writer and gets fired.
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>>67234769
When they adapt Born Again.

My prediction:
In Season 3 or The Defenders or just between seasons or something, Karen's life falls apart, her shady past comes back to haunt her, and she has a massive breakdown and becomes a heroin addict, goes to Mexico and Matt and Foggy loose contact with her

>Season 3 is an adaptation of born again. Out of prison and fully established as The Kingpin of Crime, Fisk figures out who Daredevil is through Karen and sets about destroying his life. Nuke's already been set up thanks to Jessica Jones, and Cap's role could be easily replaced by Punisher, assuming they don't want to get Evans in for it.
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>We are living in a world where we could see The Slavers arc, and Barracuda in live action

My Frank is ready
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>>67234429

Best guess is that they're integrating the Shadowland plot into the following seasons where DD becomes EVIL.

Either that or they're finding a way to Kun'Lun
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>>67233628
i'm more sad we are gonna get marvel/marvel knights punisher instead of MAX ennis punisher
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>>67235090
CMD is dead my man, one of the best guys for Barracuda. Who can replace him?
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>>67235092
What does a hole have to do with Shadowland?
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>>67235090
>season 3 starts
>Daredevil is apologising to Melvin for ruining yet another suit
>Melvin says it's okay, grinning
>"I finished this one just last night"
>"thanks melvin"
>cut to Frank and Kingpin squaring off
>suddenly Daredevil bursts through the window
>this happens

>cut to Matt suddenly screaming, bolting awake in bed
>it was just a nightmare
>roll opening credits
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>>67235162
Terry Crews maybe, i'm sure there is no shortage of giant Niggers
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every karen scene she is either tearing up or crying. it is getting annoying
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Billy club shows up at the very end of S2.

I hope they get a great fight coordinator for s3 because shit has to go crazy.

I need me my DD that does the craziest acrobatics. I need him to make his club bounce on like 20 surfaces before hitting someone.

I want DD to be the man without fear.

I also want him to be a redhead.
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>>67235201
That's how I feel about Foggy. Dude is bitchin and moanin every time he gets screen time.
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Episode 3 fight scene was amazing.
Episode 13 rooftop fight was a huge load of crap.

I was pretty happy with the whole series and for it to end like that, it left a real bad taste in my mouth.
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I've only seen good feedback regarding The Punisher, does that mean that he will get his own series?
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so why arent the avengers worry about the hand? it seems like the hand is getting shit done more than hydra.
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I think the Elektra portrayal was good but the pacing of her plotline is fucking horrible

>LETS TRY TO MAKE IT WORK
>I WANT TO BE WITH HIM NOW I DONT WANT TO KILL ANYMORE
>FUCK KAREN ITS ALL ABOUT THIS BITCH XD
5 mins later
>ELEKTRA WHY DID U KILL THE NINJA KID FUCK YOU IT WONT WORK

literally happened within 5 mins
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Madame Cho or whatever her name is was pretty pointless in this season.
Why did they even have her? Why do they show her doing ritual bullshit in the last episode?
She could have at least given some hints about the place Iron fist is from or something.
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can someone explain what happened to the 200 ninjas on the rooftop ready to kick the door down and corner them in a small hallway

then elektra dies and then there are only 4 left for frank to kill

only 4 despite being teased with a minigun

is the armoury tease setting up the punisher show?
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this whole season is like a giant filler, nothing happened besides elektra dying and getting revive next season.
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>>67235441
U wot m8?
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since they can't get daredevil's bff spiderman who are they going to get instead?
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>>67235532
They'll keep DD solo until they finally get all the rights to Spidey.

But then we have the issue of movie and tv show and how they'll handle that.
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Needed more Fisk, less exposition.

>guys Frank is crazy
>did we mention he is crazy
>he is soooo crazy
>but he has good in him
>omg he killed that guy brutally, maybe not
>omg but he saved lifes, he is good
>but he is crazy
>someone killed his family
>but who
>I dunno, someone killed his family
>I dunno, someone killed his family
>I dunno, someone killed his family
>but who
>but who
>but who
>I dunno, someone killed his family
>oh it was the blacksmith
>who
>the blacksmith, he is a very bad guy
>who
>the blacksmith, he is a very bad guy
>who
>the blacksmith, he is a very bad guy

Literally every conversation drags on too long. Numerous times I just felt "yeah I get it move the fuck on".
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>>67235578
When Fisk finally shows up the plot finally starts to move forward, I get it they wanted to set up the characters, but the trial didn't need more than one episode.
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Why did The Punisher had to kill the pawn shop owner?

He was just trying to sell him some videos? He didn't commit a crime or kill anybody. I mean what can be so bad on those tapes anyway?
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>>67235628
Are you stupid? He wasn't charging $100 to do anything you want to a video.
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now i get why matt didnt want to fuck karen, all those scars and didnt want to let her know he is daredevil
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>>67235628
>she's 12
He killed him because he sold child porn
Punisher is an anti hero. But still a hero
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>Karen relates to the Punisher
>assume it's because she killed Wesley and knows what it's like to kill someone
>waiting for her to eventually reveal that she killed Wesley
>never happens

What the fuck
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>>67235749
u gonna post this in evry thread now m8?
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quicksilver is going to get revive in civil war now. all those screenshots are true
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I don't get why everyone is saying the fight at the end of episode 3 was trying too hard to top the hallway fight. Every fight or action sequence in the entire season should be trying to top it because it was good.
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i hope they have better fight choreographers for luke cage and jessica jones.
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>>67236055
it wouldn't even be bad, it just gets boring when daredevil beats up random ninja #9999, the fight at the end of ep 3 or when he fights the ninja in his house are way better fights because there is actual tension in them
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ONE BATCH

TWO BATCH
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>>67232348
Jumped the shark. But at least we still have The Flash
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i've been wincing and cringing ever since i watched the scene with foggy talking down the two thugs in the hospital

thanks for the lifetime original moment
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>S2 EP12
>Stick is talking to Matt from another room while being tortured
>Tells Matt that in order to fight the ninjas, don't try to track their heart beats or weapons, track their breathing
>You hear their breathing amplified as they're throwing punches at Matt
>Matt immediately begins countering and beating the shit out of them
>That widepan shot
>That fucking roar Matt does after they're all knocked out
>MFW

Most underappreciated scene.
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>>67236248
yeah okay buddy you can keep your shitty flashes and supergirls to yourself, it's not like anyone else is watching that nonsense
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>>67233816
He'd be good in Luke Cage. I highly doubt they had the foresight to throw him in though
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>>67236362
That part irked me because it implied that he had never thought of tracking their breathing before.
I thought he had been doing that all along.
Still great though.
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>>67236362
that 'roar' was kinda goofy though
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>>67236268
I thought it was alright.
Definitely lifetime moment, but it could have been so much worse
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>>67236362
I still don't get why Matt's radar sense couldn't track the ninjas movements. Doesn't matter if they make no sound, the radar would bounce off of them anyway.
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From now ITT: pitch a better story for s2

Have Fisk proven not guilty, and freed of any charges, daredevil sees how the system doesn't work, and while he tries to stop Castle from hunting Fisk down, but he also doesn't know how to stop Fisk besides killing him

I totally thought this is what they are going to go for
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>>67235578
This is definitely s problem, but only really apparent if you binge. If the episodes were split up weekly it'd feel more natural.

I felt the same way about fights. After the fifth hour I kinda started zoning out whenever some ninjas ran in with their swords.
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>>67236419
Kek he's not a Bat,man. It's not echolocation
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>>67236433
>Have Fisk proven not guilty, and freed of any charges

Given how season one ended, that would be the worst fucking season opening imaginable.
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>>67236419
His radar sense is a simplification of him using all 4 of his other senses to see what's around him.

He gets it after a loooot more training as Daredevil. Not in his first couple of months.

It's the same reason he's not swinging around the city and jumping off of highrises.
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>>67236627
because its less realistic than him suddenly controlling the whole prison in one afternoon, even having enough power to release a wild-known serial hours after he was on court
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>>67236715
Yeah, it was fucking stupid how the only person who seemed to care about that was Matt Murdock. In real life, there would be a huge investigation by the DA and the government to find out how that happened. The guards would all get fired, and they would all rat out Fisk, because why wouldn't they?
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>>67236715
>One afternoon

Do you not have any perception of time?
Fisk amassed power steadily over the course of months.

What you saw was an accelerated flashback sequence.
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>>67236902
Punisher kills the other mob boss and suddenly he controls the whole place.
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>>67236935
And he somehow convinces the guards to let Frank Castle go. If there's one thing that guards will never ever do no matter how much you bribe them, it's help you escape. They can get away with other stuff, like smuggling goods or looking the other way when inmates fight, because nobody on the outside care. But once a famous psycho murderer escapes on their watch, they're in deep trouble, because now outsiders will pay attention to them, at best they'll just get fired, at worst they'll go from being guards to inmates.
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>>67236835
>In real life, there would be a huge investigation by the DA and the government to find out how that happened

1) This is not real life
2) The DA was launching a investigation. She was murdered. On screen. Within hours of starting her investigation.
3) Keep in mind that this is the Marvel Cinematic Universe. The government has a lot of important shit to handle. For all we know, they had the events of Civil War going on in the background, or an alien threat. While a mass shooter who targets criminals walking out of prison may seem like a big deal to us, It wouldn't be as big of one in the MCU.

Yeah, a mass shooter who targets criminals is loose. That's nice. Great.
But The Hulk is going on a rampage through Las Vegas right now, Doctor Octopus just built some kind of Spider-Man hunting robot the size of a city block three Burroughs over, and we just made first contact with the Kree. Captain Mar-Vell is having tea with Obama at the White House as we speak.
Suddenly, Frank Castle isn't that big of a blip on the Government's radar.
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>>67232626
Eh I've got a girl that checks enough of those boxes and it's overrated
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>>67232365
first post best post
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>>67236935
>Punisher kills the other mob boss and suddenly he controls the whole place.

Fisk already had control over a large chunk of the guards.
What he didn't have control over was all the prisoners.
And there's nothing to imply that he does yet. He simply had the one person that prevented him from gaining that control eliminated by exploiting someone that would have murdered them anyway.
Fisk only had control over what...3 inmates?
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>>67233034
>>67233000
They will probably move on to Danny Ketch or Robbie Reyes for a Ghost Rider.
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So just finished ep 5 with Frank getting arrested. This actor cucks everyone else out of existence. He's like bruce willis and rambo combined.

Every second he wasn't on screen was fucking lame.

Foggys little faggot speech in the hospital appealing to the sensibilities of those two criminals was so fucking horrible I was crying laughing.

Seriously, the acting in this for the most part was horrendous and the main fucking hero was made to look like a giant cuck in the face of a true hero, The Punisher.

Seriously, The Punisher was so fucking perfectly casted, acted, written, and executed.

And to think I had doubts about the guy.

Anyways, is it worth it to watch til the end now that punisher is locked up and Electra has been introduced?
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>It's a Punisher whispers and mumbles through a 5 minute monologue episode
Fuck
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>>67237414
All the monologues and dialogues felt like 5 times longer than they had to be.

Not that anyone was a bad actor or anything but they someone loved his own writing a little too much.
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>>67236371
>creates a wall of ice to shield people from explosion
>everyone dies getting impaled by shards of ice
what should have happened
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>>67233059
>Not confirmed, in fact it's the only thing Marvel has actively denied

They might change their tune after this though.
Most of this seasons critical praise has been via Punisher, and viewer reaction has been mostly praise as well.
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>>67237269
If you think Punisher is the best part of the show you probably have pretty shit taste so I wouldn't recommend bothering with the rest of the season.
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>>67237093
>1) This is not real life

Thats what I said earlier, Wilson Fisk easily coming out from prison is a common trope in the comics, I thing it would had been interesting to see how Matt would handle him being proven not guilty.
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>>67232365
>>67237149
samefag
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>>67237013
if we are gonna nitpick stuff, lets go with how Matt drops blood everywhere and no one, not the police, not anybody has ever tought of, you know, testing it to find his identity.

Or how he doesnt even modify his voice or pose while in his suit and people dont realize he is Daredevil, even the people who know them both (Brett or Fisk or ayone else)
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>>67232893
they said in the show that he doesn t have any money to use now...
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As for capeshit, this is the best on tv better than a lot of the movies.

Sure, it was over ambitious and the two main plot lines didn't gel.

It had a few issues here and there. Some blaring mistakes e.g. end fight they showed shit loads of ninjas running along the roof tops and then it turned out to be like 12 guys and Nobu; Matt even said they were beyond counting.

The only ever major problem is the same thing with all of these shows is pacing. They start off by hitting the ground running and then slow down. The Blacksmith and not hearing the what the Hand were really planning? Urgh.

Aside from that it was great. Amazing fights. Decent acting. Felt like there was consequences.
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>>67232348
>ywn never be offered a job by a MILF lesbian Trinity ;_;
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