>Terminator 1
>The Terminator is damaged and wears a pair of sunglasses to hide his inhumanity
>Terminator 2
>The Terminator decides to wear sunglasses at night to look "cool"
This is why T1 > T2
The sole way T2 is better is special effects. Everything else about T1 is better.
Tech Noir is the GOAT Terminator scene, but the film is full of them.
>>67175313
He NEEDED THEM
to be fair, he does look pretty cool.
The first Terminator is better because he actually TERMINATES people.
Both good. T1 as a thriller and T2 as an action movie.
>>67175313
>Tech Noir is the GOAT Terminator scene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4kfqmv2PoQ
My nigga!
It's because the first Terminator portrays the futuristic technology as inherently evil, as something broken or imperfect that has to hide its imperfections to fool people until it unleashes its apocalyptic nature.
In the 2nd Terminator, the Terminator has become a tool that co-operates with humans, thus accepting their fashion etiquettes and trying to be physically appealing for the sake of being physically appealing.
Technology has now transcended the naive mistrust it had been plagued with, it is now a great asset to our experience.
>>67175441
Why is Michael Biehn so cool?
It's amazing that three attempts at following the Terminator films just did not fucking understand the first two at all.
They focused on the backstory and the "look at the cool robots!" as the plot as if they asked a bunch of 10 year olds what they liked most about T2.
>>67175411
>I'm so fucking retarded I completely ignore the plot of the movie!
Eat less paint chips
>>67175531
>Why is Michael Biehn so cool?
It was just a perfectly cast film, wasn't it.
>>67175537
Fuck off manlet
>>67175546
GET OUT
>>67175540
What made them good? I think it's the emotionless, unstoppable killer thing. Cold and scary.
>>67175560
Totally.
Hey, did anyone marathon the new Terminator film with Genesis? It was so cool, there was a man who was all robots, and Arnie went time travelling. Best one in the series if we are to be honest, members of my family
Pic related: Arnie fights a cool robot
I want a sequel that takes place almost entirely in the future following the humans vs Skynet. Still make time travel a component, but only a small one.
>>67175540
>They focused on the backstory
Is it too much to ask for a badass terminator movie set after judgement day?
>>67175745
T4 was alright. I was hoping for a sequel to follow that, but I guess it didn't perform well enough. The TV show was also good as well.
>>67175745
Apparently. Though at this point it wouldn't be the same without the synth tracks and lasers. Salvation dropped the ball. Directors have egos too big to seamlessly continue someone else's vision.
>>67175705
>>67175745
That movie should have been made in the 80s, using practical effects and proper sets. That's why the flashbacks in T1 and T2 are so damn amazing.
CGI won't give it enough grit, see; everything after T2.
i just watched genisys the other day. thought it would be the worst film i ever saw, but honestly the first hour was fun as fuck. after that... well never mind what happened next, the first hour was okay, which is about 10 levels better than i expected.
salvation will always be the worst entry in the series by far.
T1>T2>T3>Genisys>Salvation
>>67175636
Also the practicality of Reese and the T 101. It's fascinating watching them assemble what they need after arriving in our time completely naked and with nothing
>>67175689
>they made Terminator movies after 2
Don't remind me.
Are they fucking dine yet BTW?
>>67175636
Yes, and scarier as you don't know what you're dealing with. The very fact that we've had terminators in the popular culture for 30 years now means they just can't have the same effect they had in the first two films.
Also, the first two films DID rely on special effects, but that was in a time when effects could still blow minds as we were in the era where CGI was either non-existant or just getting started.
No one is truly blown away by visual effects any with the very odd exception like mad max
>>67175313
In T2 the glasses represent the T-800s detachement from humanity. Removing the eyes makes him easier to be seen as a killer, leading up to the misdirection that he is there to kill John. The T-800 for most of T2 is without them, he loses the glasses when he is shown by John that he doesn't have to kill and indangers the mission to save another life.
I think their usage in T2 is very well done.
Yeah one of the reasons the first two movies are so much better is because the evil terminators are scary as fuck nightmare fuel, Arnold because he was an unstoppable killing machine and the T1000 because he was so fucking creepy and unsettling. None of the later movies managed to come even close to that since they all tried and failed to copy either Arnold or T1000 instead of coming up with something new.
Best Terminator right here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uTO31B1R2c
>>67176002
>T1000 because he was so fucking creepy and unsettling. None of the later movies managed to come even close to that since they all tried and failed to copy either Arnold or T1000 instead of coming up with something new.
Cast him.
>>67176075
>yfw they actually had to tell him to run slower because he caught up with the kid on the bike the first time filming it
>>67175636
The first movie since it's basically a slasher film did rely on the unstoppable cold killing robot, but what keeps you invested is the relationship between Reese and Sarah Connor, and that you actually care about the characters. What really carries the second movie is both Sarah's PTSD, and seeing how the Terminator bonds with John; at the end everyone is an actual character we give a shit about and can get invested in the movie, unlike in the newer pieces of shit.
>>67175313
It is better but T2 is not far behind.
>>67176075
Fuck that would be scary. This is the kinda shit in films that spooks me right out, when something that looks normal is doing something abnormal. Spooky skeletons, demons, monsters etc don't scare me nearly as much
>>67176184
2spoopy
It's to stop wind in your eyes on a motorbike.
I know his eyes are hardware, but the actor's eyes are not.
>>67176109
It would still feel like a worse copy of Robert Patric who was literally perfect as the T1000. They need to come up with a brand new concept for a scary terminator.
>>67176271
Should of manned up and stopped being a pussy
>>67176318
> They need to come up with a brand new concept for a scary terminator.
Problem with that is that the T-1000 is the best you can do. All you can do is give it bullshit powers like being able to hack wi-fi and shit. If you make it not liquid then you're making it easier to destroy.
>>67176407
I'm not talking about new powers specifically, but it needs to be scary in a new way. No idea how though.
>>67176514
What if we just put them both on a boat? No running and hiding across a city, but you're stuck with the terminator on a cruise ship or some shit, having to keep terminator from sinking the entire ship when it gets tired of trying to find its target.
>>67176514
There can be scary ideas but their power level would be too much for plot. Basically monster gets his way no possible opposition. It needs balance between scariness and weakness.
We can all agree atleast that Arnold was GOD tier casting?
>>67175531
>>67175560
Biehn?
>>67176630
That was Robert Patrick.
In T1 it was Michael Biehn.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA7gvhwC9RI
>>67175313
and the 3rd? ...well I guess we won't even go there
>>67175313
Maybe he decided to wear them to hide the reflection/glow of his robotic retina when in traffic at night, asshole?!
>>67176694
That promo is gay as fuck.
>Now Terminator 2 is about to become the ultimate performer for YOU!
>that finger point
I feel like he's propositioning me for striptease with a happy ending or some shit.
i love going back to the 80's and 90's eras with those first 2 movies
>>67176629
The reason the T1000 was scary had nothing o do with his morph powers, but the way he was played. The scariness of a terminator doesn't necessarily have to be related to how powerful it is.
>>67176855
even the dad is a cuck
>>67176694
>i think you've been watching a little too much Arnold Schwarzenegger
Cromartie was pretty intimidating, just saying.
>>67177011
Well yeah, he was played by that creepy fuck Dillahunt.
Dude looks more untrustworthy than legit biker psychos and gangbangers who pride themselves on looking untrustworthy.
>>67177124
he gave me the vibe of an unstoppable killign machine once again. also, i liked that it took them like two seasons to "kill" him. terminators should be that hard to kill, always.
>>67176694
>Drop Dead Fred
Kek
>>67176694
Wifey getting wet for Arnold.
>>67177124
>>67177183
This is why I'm not in the "we need a new angle on the terminator" camp. He needs to be well cast and part of a decent story, that's the monster will work again. No need for silly gimmicks.
T2 is pure dog shit.
If you weren't blinded by nostalgia you'd realize it's just three action scenes connected by the worse fucking child acting and dialogue ever written.
>>67179031
Chill out, dickwad
>>67179031
Fuck you, asshole.
>>67179031
Take a hike, bozo
>>67176660
Biehn = Bean
>>67179031
Cool it, dork
>>67179442
>>67179504
When will this meme die?!?
>>67179031
Your mama.
>>67179031
T2 and Die Hard... best action movies ever
>>67179031
Terminator 2 is still the greatest film ever made.
>>67175907
Aren't they planning on making Genysis a trilogy?
>>67179031
Fuck you, you little dipshit.
>>67179727
You called moi a dipshit?
>>67175313
Fuck you asshole
They needed the glasses to mask stuntdoubles and CGI transitions.
>>67175919
>No one is truly blown away by visual effects any with the very odd exception like mad max
That just shows that nobody is blown away by uninspired, lazy visual effects, just like back then(only the uninspired lazy visual effects were just...nonexistent)
>>67175313
his eyes light up dumbfag, check the future flashbacks by Reese when a Terminator shows up at the base and wrecks everyones' shit, his eyes light up.
I like the Terminator 2 for nostalgia reasons, but for me the original Terminator is the best. It's a technoir horror movie where there's no happy ending. There's no "fun" in it. The Terminator is cold, efficient, and has zero remorse for humanity. Also los Angeles in the first film is all dark and gritty.
>>67175363
NO CONTROL
HOP RIGHT IN TOO CLOSE TO FEEL THE PAIN
Its part of his disguise dumbshit. It people see him riding a bike with no eye protection it will draw unnecessary attention so he steals the glasses.
>>67175636
The first film is a mixture of romance, action, science-fiction and slasher, perfectly blending them all together, you can't go up from there, which is why T2 is more action focused than anything, some interesting info about what Sarah had to go through after the events of the first film, but nothing to significantly deem it better than the first film, if anything John Connor ruined it with his emo haircut and badboy attitude suddenly telling Arnold that killing people is bad
There is not a single way in which T1 is better than T2. NOT A SINGLE ONE.
>>67175849
I thought Genesis was terrible, you couldn't have ruined Sarah Connor more.
>cast baby-faced literally who people know from some series
>cast a guy that has a permanent ''DURR'' expression
>completely scrap Sarah's development into actually becoming a bad-ass just so she can be better than Reese and not need his protection
>0 thought put into their plan, they just blow shit up and hope Judgement Day doesn't happen
>Arnold turns into a T-1000 at the end because
Official thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8DekFFCE5c
>>67180293
>implying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IPBgUKGdYk
>>67180263
*tips Edward Furlong and #feelstheBern
That PG-13 kids movie was Reddit before the internet was even a thing outside of military operations.
>>67179031
Take a chill pill dingus.
>>67180293
>dat kyle reese
Biehn is so fucking good
>>67180190
Something I love about the original is the noir influence, which is missing from the sequel.
>>67175363
I FEEL THE HEAT OF YOUR DESIRE
I JUST CAN'T FACE THE FIRE
>>67175313
but why does he has no eyebrows?
>Terminator 1
>Work of art that is allegorical for the cold war and paranoia over technology.
>Terminator 2
>Rehash of Terminator 1 with people drinking Pepsi and playing video games in every scene.
Bravo Cameron
>>67180355
NOT A SINGLE ONE
>>67180448
>you just dont get it mom, its alleagorical and stuff, that makes it good!
>>67180448
He made T1 - perfect movie.
He made T2 - enjoyable flick, earned shitload of money.
He made Aliens, True Lies and Titanic - earn even more money.
He made his opus magnum, James Cameron's Avatar.
>>67180813
both T2 and aliens are distorted sequels and deserve no respectable mention
>>67180813
HIS NAME IS JAMES CAMERON
EXPLORER OF THE SEA
>>67180927
both of them are better movies than the first movie in the series, kid
>>67180966
and i am the kid
>>67175804
Salvation was supposed to be the first movie of a new trilogy.
Terminator 1 is pretty terrifying. Especially when he's just the metal frame at the end.
>>67176702
That highway chase with the crane was fucking great though. Otherwise it was a piece of shit.
The only thing T2 did better than T1 did is Sarah Connor
>>67180263
Two terminators are better than one.
T1000 is better than T800.
1887.
Tacticool Sara played on of the best action ladies in the history of action films.
>>67180927
Which are more obnoxious, John Connor in T2 or the marines in Aliens?
>>67181060
Not really tho, Sarah in T1 is obviously your average teenager, just because she was better in T2 because she got ripped doesn't mean T2 did her better
>>67181013
Thank allah it bombed so hard.
>>67180367
I know right?
shame we will never have a proper Metal Gear Solid movie with the guy that inspired it.
I liked him in SEALS too.
>>67181150
>shame we will never have a proper Metal Gear Solid movie with the guy that inspired it.
Kurt Russell?
>>67181091
if the t800 had any emotions he would kill john connor in cold blood
>>67181150
>making movie based on another movie
i know the terminator series is arnie focused but i feel like linda was vital as well
>>67181150
>>67181190
>that escape from new york game got canceled
Such a shame
>>67181218
jesus christ, did you come from 9gag or what
Terminator Salvation had the best set up for a sequel, and then proceeded to have the worst execution.
>a brand new trilogy set in the future war
>a new twist involving skynet and time travel
>cameos from Arnold t-101
But what we ended up was a mess of a film with too many heroes and only a few cool sequences.
>>67175441
Bouncer's acting is shit.
Everything else about this scene is perfect.
>>67180448
Whatever happend to Pepsi, senpaitachi: They selfinserted into most of all our beloved 80's flicks yet here we are in current year where not even hipsters pretend to like it.
>>67181492
you serious? i always thought americans really liked pepsi better.
>>67181492
>>67181568
I like Pepsi.
I'm not american, though.
>>67175705
so terminator salvation?
>you will never meet a qt in distress, chased by a murder machine from the future, at the tech noir
Why even live?
>>67181858
>you will never travel back in time to save your waifu from a killer robot
>you will never fuck her like crazy especially since you're finally with your waifu and nothing matters
>>67181568
it changes year to year and decade to decade, and different parts of the country are very different-- in the southeast Coke is so big they call other carbonated drinks "coke" because it's considered the default
T1 vs. T2 is a stupid fight because you can't have Sarah Connor's full character development without both of them (and the scenes with that one psychologist don't work as well), and T1 gives the T2 terminator something to top, and the full differences between the terminators aren't evident without seeing both of them in their element. I'm sure there are more things you can't appreciate fully without both. Yes the retcon by omission about the rules of time travel is kind of dumb but the rules were never really explained (yes I know they were explained in the rough drafts, it's not in the movie) so it's just left as a quirk with no reason for being. Now T3, there's some character development there but it skewed the genre again and made the series double back on its change in philosophy and it just... didn't resonate as well, so it's inferior.
>>67176075
it looked he was forgotten for so long after T2.... then I saw him in X-Files and he was great in that too. oh yeah, and in Stargate too, if i remember right.
>>67179442
>Michael Bien
>always dies
>Sean Bean
>always dies
>>67182078
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgrA4UWDcW0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-64FNAiPVOc
>>67179031
hasta la vista baby!
>>67182078
He is in The Unit too.
Good show.
>John Connor gave me a picture of you once. I didn't know why at the time. It was very old - torn, faded. You were young like you are now. You seemed just a little sad. I used to always wonder what you were thinking at that moment. I memorized every line, every curve... I came across time for you, Sarah. I love you; I always have.
>>67182148
fuck time with a rake, fucking asshole.
>>67176342
You're right
Fuck wind
>>67182237
Holy shit, Michael Biehn is great.
Shame the academy robbed him in Navy Seals.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-2uPXKeC-M
>>67182286
Time really is an asshole
Is the last Terminator worth watching?
>>67182457
I've downloaded it and dropped it with 45 minutes in.
You could try.
>>67182498
Fuck it then
>>67176075
Damn it Jim, fuck Avashit 2 and just do another Terminator PLEASE
>>67183112
EWW
>>67181020
>Especially when he's just the metal frame at the end
Stop-motion animation is just generally really scary.
I always wonder what it would be like if they made a third terminator movie or a sequel to the matrix.
>>67183377
>>67179963
that was a different model of terminator from the model 101 T-800
>>67175313
The series is much better than both. That being said, you can say that he decided to wear the glasses to look more casual or even to hide his dead eyes.
>>67175919
>The very fact that we've had terminators in the popular culture for 30 years now means they just can't have the same effect they had in the first two films.
I think this is a big reason. My Dad took a chick on a date to see it and they were blown away. Everyone in the theatre loved the movie and people were talking about it for weeks, and this was before any form of social media
>I will never get into tech noir
>>67180448
>people drinking Pepsi and playing video games in every scene.
That made the setting seem familiar rather then dystopian. I remember at the time, the fact that John lived a relatively normal suburban middle-class life made it hit closer to home for me as a kid around the same age as him. Cameron brought the harsh reality of T1 into the safe space of malls and suburbia--everything that comes off as commercial and sterile was so because that's what life was like for the audience at the time. It was about making people feel uncomfortable seeing a fucking killing machine try to murder a boy in in soccer mom country.
I think that may be lost on people watching it decades later.
>>67176660
If you blow up that terminator right next to you, will you die?
>>67183732
When you woke up today, did you decide to be as much of a pleb as you possibly could on /tv/ or is it just that you have a case of incurably shitty taste?
>>67180966
please die
>>67176514
Make him a replicator. Nothing scarier than that.
This would be the next T-1000
>>67184433
>another T-1000
We need something new
>>67175531
Do you think T2 movie would have even happen, if they played their intended roles ? Arnold as Kyle, Michael as T ?
Haven't seen gensys or whatever the fuck you call it but how was the Korean guy as the T1000? He was the only part of the trailer that looked good.
>>67184600
That's basically T2
Fuck off faggot the T2 terminator was built with a better AI, it's a learning bot that is taught how to act.
>puts on sunglasses to look cool
No shithead he was adapting to his surroundings, particularly in a bar where the people try to look like tough shits and are complete dumbasses.
Know your shit before you criticize a quality villain.
For future reference, t1 had a T-600 while t2 had a T-800
T2 is for kids
T1>T2
>>67175313
he needed them cause its really bright in the past
>>67180263
Soundtrack. I will fite you.
>>67184797
Fuck you T2 was one of the fucking best movies of all time terminator has a bunch of fucking cussing and shit why the fuck would you say fuck in a fucking kids movie you fucking FAGGOT KILL YOURSELF fucking idiot
Why is she so perfect
>>67184890
She's ugly
>>67184911
Nah, she's ok.
are the sarah connor chronicles worth watching
>>67182344
Goddammit having that meat muppet play Reese
>>67180283
baby face has some killer titties tho
>that highway scene
ITT: Mom fill up my sippy cup, I'm too busy telling everyone that popular things aren't good
>>67185042
baby face's sillouette looked like an anime character changing clothes
I know I've seen Genisys, but I don't remember shit about it, but I don't remember it being utter shit. Now I'm torn between just reading the Wiki page or rewatching it.
>>67175363
IN THE THIRD DEGREE
>>67185511
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO_etqijSVY
>>67185511
CAN'T STOP MY BODY'S ACHING
>>67184959
It's not great but it's better than any of the movies after 2
>Terminator 1
>"Here we have the merciless android in its natural habitat as it stalks its pray"
>Terminator 2
>WOAH CHECK OUT THIS KILLER ROBOT...HE MAY BE BACK, BUT ANYONE WHO GETS IN HIS WAY SURE WON'T!
>IT'S A BAD DAY TO BE A COP....SHOULD'VE STAYED AT THE DONUT SHOP FELLAHS!
>THAT'S ONE HOT THUMBS UP FOR THIS COOL METAL DUDE!
>"bad to the bone" start playing
>>67186609
2 looks like fun
>>67175313
Maybe the glasses were to hide his unblinking blindman-like eyes?
>>67175441
Arnie doesn't quite have the whole robot thing down in the first one
>>67186859
Really low budged movie
![47823989[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/7HGYDV8.png "47823989[1].png")
>>67175313
>terminator checks his hair to make sure it looks cool
Why would a robot do that?
>>67188157
To blend in
>>67175823
Salvation had quite a few great fight scenes and intelligent robot designs. I think it gets way too much criticism, the only part I object to is the terminator having a living heart.
Creating a terminator that wasn't self aware and thought it was human was genius.
>>67180927
whether or not the sequels are better than the originals is a matter of opinion but to say they deserve no respectable mention is either trolling or straight up retarded.
>>67175441
That camera shot when he misses seeing her was so fucking tense
>>67181190
>>67181245
Also no escape from earth movie while russell was younger
>>67188881
>tfw he said he doesn't want to play old Snake because he doesn't believe Snake would live to get old
>>67180293
>>67180348
Boards of Canada's Semena Mertvykh reminds me of the T1 soundtrack
Kill the CGI artists!
Movie effects war now!
>>67179504
>>67179529
>>67182138
We recreate the scene with Sean bean and Michael Bhien.
Dragon Ball Z was a Terminator rip off
Gonna end this once and for all
>Terminator enter gun shop
>Needs to acquire a primary weapon which will inflict max amount of damage in the range that he operates so he visually scans the rack and selects the 12 Gauge Autoloada
>Terminator parameters now switch to prioritize a secondary more concealable weapon as a backup and notices the .45 Long Slide w/ Laser Sighting (important)
>After completing the inspection of the handgun, the terminator accepts this as a suitable weapon
>At the same time his programming notices the laser sighting. All the files the Terminator has for this time period doesn't suggest that laser sighting should exist yet. And realistically, this was a very new accessory for firearms at the time.
>Terminator processes this information and concludes that since there are little to no records of pre-Judgement Day, there might be a chance to acquire a plasma rifle in this time period. Especially given the fact that laser sighting is present while not being in his internal files.
>Terminator most likely narrows down plasma rifle selection to the earliest iterations. In this sense, the Phased Plasma Rifle in a 40 Watt range could very well be some sort of pre-production prototype that has the earliest data of appearance on Skynets data files, and by extension, the Terminators data files.
>The shop keeper is quick to retort with a snide remark
>Terminator calculates that plasma rifle technology must not exist due to tone and inflection detected in human response
>Now Terminator needs another weapon to fulfill the role of the plasma rifle. It is logical to conclude that it was needed for supression/automatic fire.
>For this reason, his programming looks for something in the shop that will fulfill the tactical purpose of the plasma rifle. Finds the Oozie Nein Mehlehmeeta and decides to use this in its place.
>After inspection of all firearms are concluded and all firearm roles have been filled, it is time to dispose of the shop keeper.
>>67175850
> metal can't travel thru time
> wait wait... if its covered in flesh it can
> skynet never makes a flesh-covered gun
Really broke my immersion tbqh
>>67189246
How much time did you spend thinking about this?
>>67189246
This is my fav /tv/ pasta
>>67189246
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdjdpoqITXk
AUTOLODA
>>67189246
what exactly are you ending?
>>67184959
S1 kinda GOAT, S2 has it's moments. I think writers strike fucked up while the show was airing. Then they decide to can the show due to low ratings
>>67186609
I understood this reference
>>67189662
wow are you a professional 4chan meme recognizer or something?
>>67189734
still studying, but I hope to one day reach pro status
>>67179031
Flock off feather face.
