Who /unforgiven/ here? Will Westerns ever see a revival? I know there's a new Western starring Ethan Hawke coming out soon, I just wish we had more.
>Bone tomahawk was mediocre at best, the revenant didn't feel like part of the Western genre
>>67136701
>unforgiven
Fuck i seen this the other night and its fuckin awesome. i love Clint Eastwood's western movies.
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>>67136701
>Will Westerns ever see a revival?
Probably not, but spaghetti westerns are perfect enough as it is.
The Western is an interesting creature. It doesn't need to do anything outside of the same old elements and tropes to be good. I don't know anything else where cliches are a positive thing.
You've got your average town, with just a bunch of buildings around a single street, you've got your saloon with the piano music, the whiskey and the cardsharks. You've got your undertaker and the guy selling snake-oil and the hero with a grudge, every problem is solved by shooting people and it never gets old.
Also the meals are always delicious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6u_JtZ9b8LI
>>67137320
Very true anon, it doesn't get better than the classics. True Grit remake and 4:10 to Yuma were a breath of fresh air. Kevin Costner's "Open Range" had a fantastic shootout if you ask me.
>>67137289
Just great acting all around. Gene Hackman as Little Bill Dagget is one despicable yet realistic son of a bitch.
Write your own Western plot.
Hardmode: it has to please the SJW crowd and still be good.
>>67137634
I actually did but it sure as hell ain't pleasing the SJW crowd.
>>67137665
Let's hear it.
>>67136701
>Who /unforgiven/ here? Will Westerns ever see a revival?
Maybe down there in Kansas or Missouri. Possibly down there in Cheyenne.
>>67137634
John Bull, pls.
>>67136701
>He hasn't seen Slow West
>He hasn't seen True Grit
>He hasn't seen Bone Tomahawk
>He hasn't seen The Homesman
>>67137676
I'm a sucker for tales featuring brothers, it would be based around two young guns in the west whose gang is causing a ruckus. An old Texas Ranger is called in to put them down, leading to the finale of a setup disguised as a train robbery(ending to be determined).
The second has a lot of similarities to The Revenant even though I started on it a couple years ago. It's about a rancher who was left for dead tracking down the no good scumbags who killed his family in a moment of weakness. It's called Winter's Embrace since it takes place in the winter of 18xx.
>>67137894
Let's work on the first idea. How many people in the gang? Who are they?
>>67137882
Seen all except The Homesman, I'll catch it this weekend. What about Meek's Cutoff, did you watch it?
How about a Young Guns reboot? Any opinions on those films?
>>67137962
Haven't seen it, I'll have to check it out. Is that Portman one any good?
>>67137894
I would watch both of 'em
>>67137919
The brothers are the sons of a poor rancher. Growing up, they were infatuated by the stories based off of famous gunmen. Determined to make their own legend, they set off on a terror streak across the Southwest, hoping to end in the East Coast at the end of it all. The total gang is no more than 5, the other 3 men are specialists(e.g. sniper, demolition, an old bastard who's seen everything). I'd love it to be a heist movie since we don't get enough of those and I can't recall any happening in the Western setting. The Wild Bunch was somewhat like that but then it became a revenge type near the end.
>>67136701
>Bone tomahawk was mediocre at best
You are a fucking pleb. Stick with capeshit.
>>67138143
>The Wild Bunch
I will try not to gush about how good that is and instead stick to the incredibly good idea of a heist movie in the Wild West.
You need a bigger crew. For example, a safecracker. Completely different from demolition, even if A Fistful of Dynamite had the same guy doing both.
>>67138020
Thanks anon. I'd love for the scenenery to speak for itself, completely engrossing you in this bleak and harsh time period. I feel that a good western has a pace that is brooding, building steadily into a finale that is punctuated by the realism of two men practically firing point blank at each other, no matter what god damn reason they had.
>>67138165
Brother I got nothing but love for bone tomahawk but when you're in a drought, a drop of water feels like an oasis. BT had a fantastic concept and an even better ending, it's just that the first 2/3 of the movie dragged on.
>>67138183
I see what you mean, I just would hate to end up with a hobbit syndrome with too many characters. Then again, if the characters have a clear personality and scenes where they can express themselves, it won't be a problem.
The idea of the safecracker works but my only gripe is, when a group comes in to rob you, it's a smash and grab(especially in those times, unlike say Rififi or Thief). I worked at a bank when we got robbed and it was such a messy yet coordinated attack(guys still got away) that it inspired a bunch of my short stories.
>>67138411
>hobbit syndrome
Well there's an obvious difference between thirteen Dwarves who only exist because listing their names is funny and having a group of specialists with clearly defined roles and personalities.
>inspired a bunch of my short stories.
Link?
>>67138449
I keep them in my evernote, I tweak them every once in a while. One was character story for De Niro where he plays an old Bank Robber who has to team up with a young and inexperienced crew. Another is about two soldiers coming back from the war who turn to a life of crime, except their crime is stealing from drug lords in a big city like mine. There's a other set in the future but it's too raw, concept hasn't been fleshed out.
>>67138143
>I can't recall any happening in the Western setting
For a Few Dollars More. They planned out how to rob the bank and shit.
>>67138665
Fuck, looks I'm watching it again then since I forgot
The korean remake of The Good, The Bad and The Ugly was pretty good
>>67138749
It actually goes deeper than that since Clint an Van Cleef joined that gang for the heist so they'd be lead into their base.
>>67138792
wat
>he hasn't watched based Diablo with based Scott Eastwood
3:10 to yuma remake was bretty good I thought
>>67137986
Did you see the size of that chicken!?!
>All right, I'm coming out. Any man I see out there, I'm gonna shoot him. Any sumbitch takes a shot at me, I'm not only gonna kill him, but I'm gonna kill his wife, all his friends, and burn his damn house down.
I love this movie
>>67139030
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0901487/
Clint's son, Scott, was recently in a western called Diablo. Apparently it wasn't very good.
I wish he would be in more westerns, but I can understand why he wouldn't want to live off of his dad's career.
>>67137634
A famous gunslinger is asked by a woman on her deathbed, a woman he loved back in the day before they drifted apart and went their separate ways, to escort her son across several states to her husband who took a job over there, with the intention of sending for them when he had enough money, and had been writing them occasionally about his new living position. The guy accepts due to his fondness for the woman and the pay he's promised.
Him and the son bond along the way; the son was told stories by his mother about the gunslinger and is dazzled by his stories of gunfights from his times as a lawman and a few times after. The guy realizes he's never settled down and he's past his prime, and starts to see the son as a surrogate son of sorts. Under the guise of wearied cynicism, he starts to sow the seeds of doubt in the kid's mind about what the husband was doing so far away from his family and writing so sparsely. He begins to convince the kid that his dad is an adulterer and just started a new life. The gunslinger actually plans to buy into his own image of the dad as a real scumbag and considers just killing the dad in a way that makes it look like an unrelated death or a justified shooting.
It comes to light that the gunslinger left the law on bad terms. He's actually wanted for killing another man and been moving his way west, but he's being pursued by a lawman and various bounty hunters.
The son becomes disillusioned with this guy he had idolized, as his mother had told him stories about the gunslinger, after seeing what real violence looks like and finding out that he's wanted, but he still tags along since he has nothing to back to.
Desperate to keep the boy around, the gunslinger steels himself to outright murder the dad if it comes to it, but by the time they get to where he lives, it turns out that he died in an on-site accident. There is some legitimate bonding between the son and the gunslinger after they find out.
cont.
>>67139382
is it really good?
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>>67137428
>The Bodyguard more like The Snooze Alarm
>The Upside of Anger more like The Bedtime of Wanker
>A Perfect World more like A Perfect Snore
>Tin Cup more like Chin Flop
>Mr. Brooks more like Mr. Snooze
>Thirteen Days more like Thirteen Weeks
>No Way Out more like Couldn't Have Said It Better Myself, Kevin
>Man of Steel more like Man, I'm Still Watching This Shit
>Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves more like Nothing Good: Wince and Leave
>The Untouchables more like The Intolerables
>Open Range more like What a Waste
>Silverado more like Siestarado
>Bull Durham more like Dull Blur, Man
>JFK more like ZZZ
>Field of Dreams more like Sleeping Pills
>Dances With Wolves more like Glances At Clock
>Waterworld more like What a Bore
>The Postman more like The Trash Can
10/10 would watch again when I have insomnia
>>67139415
The gunslinger decides his life isn't the best for the boy that he now thinks of as a son. The gunslinger leaves the boy somewhere safe, then goes to meet the lawman that had been following them. In the streets of a town, the gunslinger boasts about all the men he's killed trying to bring him in and talks about how he kidnapped the boy he'd been traveling with. Then he kills the lawman in a narrowly-won duel before retrieving the boy and fleeing town.
Then there's a heart-to-heart for a few nights as the gunslinger basically comes to terms with his life and dotes on the boy in the ways a grizzled old man can. Then he tells the boy about his regrets and tells the boy to shoot him and turn in his body for the sizable reward that he will surely net, move back east, and start a better life. The boy doesn't as he cares for the gunslinger, so the gunslinger goads him on by trying to pick at emotional scabs with jabs at his mother and father. When that doesn't work, the gunslinger even goes so far as to draw on him, hoping the boy will defend himself, but when the boy doesn't, the gunslinger breaks down and storms off.
I don't know how to end it.
>>67139415
That's sounds pretty good. Continue please. I might steal it for when I become a director.
>>67139587
OK that sounds gay
>>67139630
All indie-films are about gay cowboys eating pudding.
>>67139415
Is there anyone likeable in this story?
>>67139587
Go with him not telling the boy about what to do with his body, but just getting drunk and goading the boy on and then drawing on him. Also, include the two of them practicing with guns earlier in the story with the old guy telling him all about how hesitation can get you killed or something. Then when the old guy draws and doesn't shoot or misses intentionally and gets shot, he tells the kid what to do with his body after he dies and has a final heart-to-heart.
>>67136701
Hateful Eight was based
>>67137634
westerns and SJW don't belong in the same sentence
>>67139087
it had a few good moments
>>67139260
>ill see you in hell
>yeah
>>67139646
Hopefully the son's naive hero worship wouldn't come off as too saccharine and more like hard-pressed optimism in a hard world. And the gunslinger would just have to be a force of charisma and with just the right amount of weakness in his low points to garner sympathy.
Could also make the lawman a real likeable and charismatic guy that people root for when the gunslinger is doing his heel turn, but it might make it hard to accept the gunslinger's redemption when he shows remorse and just wants to do right by the kid later.
