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So how the fuck that ending and master plan even make sense?
Yeah, the world is united against a common enemy. Who just disappeared. How long before they're at their throats again? Throwing accusations like
>you 'merricans created him so you're responslible
Weeks? Months?
There's no resolution to the poverty, hunger, old nationalistic resentiments, wars bigger or smaller are only a matter of time, am I wrong?
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You're not right but you're not wrong either.
The plan made absolute sense in the short term and could have even led to world peace permanently depending on the relationships establishes in the weeks after the event.

However, Rorschach's journal would probably ruin it all.
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zack snyder is such a hack that he basically cut and copied the comic book and still managed to ruin it
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>>66999766
The plan was to disarm the near-war situation that has been escalating during the movie, it never really was a definitive solution, but to give a similar "punishment" to everyone involved (the USA got dead people in NYC too so the "you created him" argument would be quite invalid).

Also, the big issue was energy, once your have a clean, easily available and near-infinite source of energy your problems are solved much easier, Watchmen is far from being perfect I agree (mainly because of some stupid comic books narrative gimmicks that don't translate well in a movie), but it's still a very "ok" ucronia.
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>>66999766
Rorschach and Owl were harshly criticizing the plan, although for different reasons. Manhattan doesn't care. So the film does not state this as a great plan. It is just one character who endorses it and the story ends at this point. You can write some fanfiction about how it eventually fails and all those millions of people died in vain.
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>>66999766
It's because they changed the ending.

In the comic, it was an alien invader, so the world unites against aliens.

Like you said, the change makes no sense. The world should just be pissed at America.
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Because Hack Snyder. The alien in the comics was an effective peace bringer because nobody knew just how many more of them were out there. They also forgot to give Ozy a detailed motivation for killing the Comedian, since there was no longer a secret island to stumble upon.
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>Alien plan
>Everyone who made the alien is dead, will be difficult to make another if peace starts failing
>Movie plan
>John is still out there and supports the plan, can show up an play his part when things go to shit
>Ozy working on matter duplication with Manhattan's tech
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I won't explain that weird old fuck's childish view of the world, but it's a reasonable notion to think that once detante begins that it will continue on pace. Just like it did after the collapse. People don't want to annihilate themselves, so any excuse to parle is good enough.
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If they start at it again he might blow something else up.

He didn't fix anything, he didn't unite anyone, he just changed the target of the Cold War from each other to him
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The rape scene was a little over the top. A couple ofpeople walked out of the theater at that point. Apart from that it's not worth the time.
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>>67000501
The consensual sex scene was far worse than the rape scene.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZSj_UA9_u4
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>>66999827
It still would kickstart diplomatic activities.
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As someone who has to original comic book both endings are stupid

The movie one is at least not as stupid, I know it's an alternate timeline from reality but even in the 60s people didn't really fucking believe in aliens, We had already landed on the fucking moon and had tons of satellites with no AYY LAMO contact.

As soon as a simple test was run on the "aliens" to learn more about them people would figure they were just spliced from existing earth species.

the movie is better fuck purist, now as for the
>muh peace won't last

that's the fucking point of both the comic and the movie is that Ozy's end DIDN'T justify the means because his "peace" was only a ruse that would only last as long as people wouldn't find out. Both versions showed that Rorshak's book was going to get published from the crank file for the newspaper.
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>>67000540
Wrong link?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxWITWbGVlg
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>>66999766
It doesn't make sense because the movie doesn't make sense. So much was lost in translation that only retards love it
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>>67000266
>Also, the big issue was energy, once your have a clean, easily available and near-infinite source of energy your problems are solved much easier
And it's clearly established that the aforementioned energy source was nothing but a hoax.
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Why didn't Big Fat Liar just disarm all the nukes with his God Powers?
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>>67001265
he's omnipotent but not omniscient, Ozy had tachyon generators to block his foresight of his own future. also its implied he isn't fully omnipotent and there's a line about how even if can stop 99% of all the nuclear arms its still armageddon
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I can't help but picture Horshack underneath the mask.
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>>67001387
He is omniscient and omnipotent.
He just didn't disarm all the nukes because he didn't want to
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>>67001387
If you're omnipotent, you can be omniscient
you wouldn't be omnipotent if you couldn't create some way to be omniscient
If you have the power to be everywhere at any point in space and/or time, why wouldn't you just do that?
that way, if someone calls in an air strike, you can just stop it before it even happened

Why didn't ozymandias focus on trying to find a solution that used Manhattan's omnipotence instead of killing a bunch of people and giving them cancer
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>>67001497
>why didnt ozymandias focus on trying to find a solution that used Manhattan rather than trying to do it without him
why does batman want to kill superman when he'd be a much better tool for saving gotham
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>>66999766
Manhattan brought that up at the end of the comic.

dont remember if its in the movie.
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>>66999766
>wuuuuah wuuuuah, where is my radioactive octopuss
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>>67001529
He doesn't
He's just trying to protect everyone from his potential wrath
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>>67001421
nobody cared who he was before he put on that mask
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>>67002214

Mister Kotter cared.. mister kotter cared..
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>>67001551
>>67000716
Dumb dumbposters
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>>67000716
>that's the fucking point of both the comic and the movie is that Ozy's end DIDN'T justify the means because his "peace" was only a ruse that would only last as long as people wouldn't find out
whether they find out or not is not really of any importance. They'll be at their throats soon enough for one reason or another, they're still fucking people, they've ben warring for thousands of years.
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